These shows following Cliff's death fill me with so much sadness for James, Lars and Kirk at that time. They're incredible because they're so visceral and fast - but they're so visceral and fast because they are grieving so much. It's pure catharsis. Just want to give them all a hug.
@@juniorperez4908 Alcohol and rage but drugs did play its factor best bet. But definitely grief and rage indeed. I don’t even think they were way past any grieving states when they bounced back in
Yes. At least the sung notes are much shorter which helps in the breath support. I’ve noticed Maiden speed up a little for difficult vocal passages… to help Bruce.
Slayer fastest song is necrophobic and is this speed. This proves that if they wanted to they could annihilate any band. No one could touch this band in the 80s. Especially with cliffs spirit of death
Lars had some hacks which later proved iconic, I always liked the DRI boom tap and found it tighter than Lars' gallopy approximations, which sounded better the more he pushed himself both pre and post mortem
Hearing just live version - this is pure awesomness. But looking at the date I have no doubt that they still were feeling anger after Cliff's death. They were angry, furious, full of emotions which took its way in this song. They probably did not miss even one note. Crazy.
James once said in an old interview that they just love playing fast live because it is fun. So maybe they only wanted to have just fun (again), ever thought about that?
They had ALOT of sadness and grieving that they relieved by playing live. Listen to Fight Fire With Fire the night before when they were in Nice and also 4 days after this Milan show when they were in Essen. The BPM in those performances were just as high as this one. It's safe to say they were in the process of grieving. But it is often in times of distress and despair where Man is at their best.
James once said in an old interview that they just love playing fast live because it is fun. So maybe they only wanted to have just fun (again), ever thought about that?
@@yobrethren it was to Kirk like losing an older brother but to James it probably felt like losing everything he had he loved cliff like an older brother and alcohol only added to the anger he felt
@@javsfuneral People are too quick to shit on that album and Lars in particular to give credit where credit is due. I hated that album for years, and went back and listen to it more recently... Still probably dead last in their discography for me as a fan, but it's probably Lars' best album in a very long time.
But, it was A BIT slower and MUCH MORE tighter, it’s still fast af tho. On the other hand, during the Puppets tour, it was just them trying to go as fast as they humanly-possibly could.
Christ on a crutch, this is one of the heaviest things that's ever been recorded. I realize it's Jason playing (with a pick) on this version but imagine Cliff or Rob trying to nail that riff with their fingers at this speed!
@@JT-sl3ui is what you think? if the person tries hard as such, he would be able to come back, yes. I believe you know that Lars doesn't train anymore, that's why he can't.
lot of practice, repetition and building up strength and muscle memory allows you to play the same thing faster and faster, sure they missed a few notes but by this point they had played the song hundreds of times, oh yeah and substances :/
@@pyrocrew17 How stupid. You don't have to be able to do something yourself to point out the fact. That's not even the point.... So many people think like that. Do you have to be a hairstylist to know somebody's haircut is fucked up? Do you have to be a chef to notice your food was not cooked per your wishes??? Be logical. Unless you truly are kidding. My apologies.
This is vicious, this is how I remember these guys. Saw them on the Ride The Lightning tour with Cliff, they opened with this - balls out the whole set. When Lars wasn't a lazy fuck but instead THE MAN!
@@kronix5432 I know that, that’s why I asked. He said he saw them three times that tour, with the last one being in December, so I was wondering if any of the first two were from before Cliff died.
Is this for real? Is the audio recording speeded up? I refuse to believe that they were able to pull this song off at this insane Bpm without some kind of editing.
No, there isn't editing elements. You should watch some dvd videos from that period (late 86-early 87), then you'll see how they had been played tgis song
Never hear Metallica fast like this, BUT - a little slower is better for my ears! I like fast, but to play fight or Battery a Little heavier is also amazing…
forgot how fkn fast they were in 1987
this is just A LOT of cocaine
@@BigFatCaulk Skill and anger
@@kenousti190 and more cocaine
@@BigFatCaulk Only lars used cocaine
@@kenousti190 wrong. James too
It’s so fast that Lars is damn near playing a blast beat lol
James started at a higher but still pretty legit tempo and then Lars came and add like +1000 bpm to the song lmao
Yeah James starts off quick but when Lars comes in James had to go double the speed lol
fr
Lars is a machine here
Yea he used to be a machine
Thanks to cocaine
COCAINE
You guys nailed it!!! That's what it is, that's what's missing from his playing these days, cocaine!!!
@@ChannelForty2 He never stopped. It wasn't cocaine, it was testosterone
I never thought they ever went to that level, it's so fucking fast that the riffs are not even noticeable
Speaking OF "fast," imagine what "WHIPLASH" and/DAMAGE, Inc., would've sounded like?
@@AngelofAnguish ua-cam.com/video/gVPaJqEyfGc/v-deo.html
Here's the whole show 🙂 whiplash and damage inc are insane!
@@Drummer_Jeff83 video is no longer available ?
@@mehdimejri4339 oh damn. Must have been taken down recently. 😞
@@AngelofAnguish whiplash 89, look it up
These shows following Cliff's death fill me with so much sadness for James, Lars and Kirk at that time. They're incredible because they're so visceral and fast - but they're so visceral and fast because they are grieving so much. It's pure catharsis. Just want to give them all a hug.
Or..Or it might be the drugs and youth ..like most bands in their early days
@@juniorperez4908 Alcohol and rage but drugs did play its factor best bet.
But definitely grief and rage indeed. I don’t even think they were way past any grieving states when they bounced back in
@@juniorperez4908 i agree, but there was a noticeable change in hetfield. Shows with cliff had youthful energy, shows after had that + anger.
they bully jason
you wont to give them a hug? 😂
dude, that was 40 years ago
James doesn't even have time to breathe that well for that brutal bpm
Yes. At least the sung notes are much shorter which helps in the breath support.
I’ve noticed Maiden speed up a little for difficult vocal passages… to help Bruce.
2:47 james and kirk start all over the place, but somehow synchronize. incredible
Started out sounding like a shitpost and turned awesome
0:50 James even fucks the main riff up, and comes out strong once the band comes in
I think it sound kinda cool if it was intentional. Obviously it wasn't just saying.
I thought it sounded kinda cool
5% all day
Rip low E string
Slayer fastest song is necrophobic and is this speed. This proves that if they wanted to they could annihilate any band. No one could touch this band in the 80s. Especially with cliffs spirit of death
This one is slightly slower, 240 BPM. Still pretty fast, though.
@@sutiszorny8039 pretty fast? this is insanely fast! I’d have to be a master at guitar to play at this speed
Lars had some hacks which later proved iconic, I always liked the DRI boom tap and found it tighter than Lars' gallopy approximations, which sounded better the more he pushed himself both pre and post mortem
D.R.I. even faster
2:10 metallica is so fast this guy couldn't even fight fire with fire
Lol that dude wasn’t ready 😂😂😂😂
Lmao, great comment hahaha
He was close 😂😂😂
First time watiching this and I can't believe that this can be played faster. The album is already fast.
Only Metallica themselves could keep outdoing themselves in terms of speed.
Megadeth even faster at rock in rio 91
This and the Winnipeg 1986 are the fastest Fight Fire with fire performances ever. Even faster than Toronto 1986, what a crazy tempo
That Toronto show was the first time I saw them, Metal Church opened! I still have a bootleg copy of that show on cassette! 🤘
They are actually fighting fire with fire here.
damn, the tempo is all over the place, from 220 almost 260 in places
Lars never changed 👌
Lars marches to the beat of his own metronome, lol.
lars is rock n roll dude man.. wtf robotic play!!
GOD! That two-guitar part was amazingly clean for being that fast. Not really even any audibly flubbed notes. 1987 was their angriest year by far.
Hearing just live version - this is pure awesomness. But looking at the date I have no doubt that they still were feeling anger after Cliff's death. They were angry, furious, full of emotions which took its way in this song.
They probably did not miss even one note. Crazy.
Hard to believe it’s already 35 years since Cliff died!!
James once said in an old interview that they just love playing fast live because it is fun. So maybe they only wanted to have just fun (again), ever thought about that?
they wore Fast with cliff to
Perfect song to start a concert. “Fight fire with fire”, “Battery” and “Blackened” are most perfect songs to begin the show with.
James before the song: lets troll Lars by starting the song at a faster tempo lmao
James after the show: WHO TOOK ALL MY COKE!?
Lars: uncontrollable shaking twitching and nervousness while looking at James
They had ALOT of sadness and grieving that they relieved by playing live. Listen to Fight Fire With Fire the night before when they were in Nice and also 4 days after this Milan show when they were in Essen. The BPM in those performances were just as high as this one. It's safe to say they were in the process of grieving. But it is often in times of distress and despair where Man is at their best.
James once said in an old interview that they just love playing fast live because it is fun. So maybe they only wanted to have just fun (again), ever thought about that?
lars could easily do some really insane blast beats on this era
2:22 marvellous picture.
All the fucking anger at having lost Cliff is reflected in this moment
barely 4 month after... Guys were furious
@@yobrethren it was to Kirk like losing an older brother but to James it probably felt like losing everything he had he loved cliff like an older brother and alcohol only added to the anger he felt
Lars dare I say can play blast beats 😂 who knew?! This is INSANE!!!!!!!!!!
to be fair he doesnt kinda play some on st anger soo
@@javsfuneral People are too quick to shit on that album and Lars in particular to give credit where credit is due. I hated that album for years, and went back and listen to it more recently... Still probably dead last in their discography for me as a fan, but it's probably Lars' best album in a very long time.
Those aren’t blast beats just fast polka
when it comes to speed, puppets era was definitely their peak.
Lmao nope, this is ffwf. Fastest song they ever performed in this version from RTL
yes i know, but when they performed during the master of puppets tour, they were going faster than how they were before and after that tour.
@@allahbless2278 search any concert of damage inc tour after cliff's death and you'll see they haven't played any faster than this era
Hey kid, 1989 called...they want to see you in the Seattle pit...
But, it was A BIT slower and MUCH MORE tighter, it’s still fast af tho.
On the other hand, during the Puppets tour, it was just them trying to go as fast as they humanly-possibly could.
Christ on a crutch, this is one of the heaviest things that's ever been recorded.
I realize it's Jason playing (with a pick) on this version but imagine Cliff or Rob trying to nail that riff with their fingers at this speed!
Even this exceeds ‘89 coke levels
True
I believe that nothing can go higher than the coke levels of 89-93
que tipo de joya acabo de escuchar?!...esa velocidad, esto no es un sueño!
*Fight Speed with Speed*
First time i have heard this. 02/17/2023 04:16 / Turkey. This speed is unbelievable.
Lars in his golden age. We'll never see this again, boys...
Nobody ever revisits their golden age. That’s truly Captain Obvious. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JT-sl3ui is what you think? if the person tries hard as such, he would be able to come back, yes. I believe you know that Lars doesn't train anymore, that's why he can't.
Kreatorallica
LMAO
I thought 1986 was fast holy shit 💀
How is this humanly possible? Did they not miss any notes?
This is Kreator - Ripping corpse and Slayer - necrophobic live 1986 tempo. crazyyy
@@paulpv7 Of course they missed some notes. The distortion covers the missed notes
METALLICA!!
lot of practice, repetition and building up strength and muscle memory allows you to play the same thing faster and faster, sure they missed a few notes but by this point they had played the song hundreds of times, oh yeah and substances :/
Not any, they missed most notes!
Sounds as fast as a death metal cover I heard of it, god I wish they kept it on the set list the tour after
Holy shit, that was fast. I miss this Metallica so much.
This was a joke to Jason, they were fast on porpuse! They wanted to make jason fail. But we got this awesome piece of gold
I think this is around 245 bpm
@@mikek1274 let’s see you do it lol
@@pyrocrew17 How stupid. You don't have to be able to do something yourself to point out the fact. That's not even the point.... So many people think like that. Do you have to be a hairstylist to know somebody's haircut is fucked up? Do you have to be a chef to notice your food was not cooked per your wishes??? Be logical. Unless you truly are kidding. My apologies.
@@inspectorbudget oh my gay
@@pyrocrew17 You gotta be a kid...
@@inspectorbudget UA-cam battles are pointless bye Karen
Sounds like death metal at this point
It just straight up is death metal LMAO
yes hahhahahaha
you're everywhere lol
@@extremelycreativeusername3190like a magician poof! Lol there he is
This is vicious, this is how I remember these guys. Saw them on the Ride The Lightning tour with Cliff, they opened with this - balls out the whole set. When Lars wasn't a lazy fuck but instead THE MAN!
@Мариса Долькина Larus sounds like the Ulrich version of an Egyptian God.
i always knew this song was kinda made to be played with blast beats, it sounds agressive af
This was just a few months before I turned 8. Absolutely fucking mental speed and totally awesome.
This is the stuff!
Excellent, and fckn fast!
And great crowd as well!!!
This literally sounds like a Morbid Angel song with Lars absolutely DEMOLISHING the drums
Lol what, MA is not really this fast, most of their songs are heavy and notorious for breakdowns and not thrashing
Lars straight up blast beating the fuck out of this song
Saw them 3x on MOP TOUR LAST ONE DEC 1 1986 FELT FORUM
So did you get to see Cliff play, or were they all with Jason?
@@durrrrl3435 jason. Cliff died september 27th, 1986
@@kronix5432 I know that, that’s why I asked. He said he saw them three times that tour, with the last one being in December, so I was wondering if any of the first two were from before Cliff died.
Slayer sounds different here
Great!
Gold era
Exactly 16 years before my birthday
oh shit i looked at the date after this comment and i realized thats my birthday too, only 18 years later instead
Ulrich here was the god of drums. Later he forgot all he had learnt.
I mean, he was ok, but "the god of drums"?
...come on :)
He stopped practicing
@sadsadsa asadasd The fills that should not be
Cocaine
He was also on the coke
This tempo reminds me of Pleasure To Kill from Kreator and Sepultura's Arise Tour.
1:02 bro how could he
3 years before my time 😳
Shows that Lars could be insane when he wants to practice and try, he can still be good but never this good again lmao
nahhh, prolly on heavy coke back then
1:01 is where its recorded to be about 260 bpm maybe even 270 imo
I think this is the fastest Metallica recording that I ever listened! Do you know if them ever played beyond this speed?
Very similar to the live in Canada vid on here from the same tour 👍
Exacto
This song has around ♾ BPM
Nuts!
Holy fucking shit dude! That’s awesome!!
Holy Hell!!! 😀
JESUSS
About as fast as the Luciferion cover... they're flying
They were metal back in the day
Is this for real? Is the audio recording speeded up? I refuse to believe that they were able to pull this song off at this insane Bpm without some kind of editing.
No, there isn't editing elements. You should watch some dvd videos from that period (late 86-early 87), then you'll see how they had been played tgis song
FFWF Canada '86 was about 210 bpm so they could play fast as shit
at that time, there was a kind of competition between Lars and James, they pushed each other to play faster and faster every show
@@douglasdias3309 the death of cliff definitely pushed them faster and more aggressively
@@arctic2913 100% agreed.
Almost death metal!!!!
Holy year’s
jesus christ lars sounds like dave lombardo
240 BPM. Nice.
whaaaaatttt
Napallmica
Is there any live footage of this?
👍😥😥😥 BRUTAL
in my imagination Metallica went towards adding death metal elements after And Justice For All instead of slowing down
1987 pure fuckin rage
creppy speeeed, lars going mental, they really hated glam rock , you can tell haha
Faster than the original. METAL SPEED
Are you sure it is fastest FFWTF? What about Winnipeg 1986?? Or Canada 1986???
Their performance of this song in Canada was not as fast as this one
What a tempo 😂😅🤦🏻♂️
250+ or something😂😂😂
@@Magma-33 385+ bpm, take it to the bank
@@AV-ob6wx i dont Think so
256 BPM if I'm correct
Never hear Metallica fast like this, BUT - a little slower is better for my ears! I like fast, but to play fight or Battery a Little heavier is also amazing…
They're playing so fast they sound more like early 90s Sodom!
they were a big fucking gun machine… wtf
lars is pissed he aint getn money for this.....
What is bpm here in this one?
for songs like this they played over 200 bpm...and thats fucking dumb fast for a live performance
@@pure_at this is at least 225 bpm. Angel of death studio version is 212 bpm and this is substantially faster
It's over 9 000 !
Slayer should never underestimate the prophets
About 245 🤘
0.75 speed sounds like studio LMAO
This is fast.
😐
Dark Angel
Mayhem sounds different here
That intro was 234-235 BPM. wtf?
where did you find this
Check out metsdc4 channel, you can find pretty good live stuff there
@@gregoreq3252 TY friend I check it out
fucking hell my arm hurts trying to keep up
edit: the original feels so sluggish in comparison now
I miss the old Lars
Le jeune Lars tu veux dire😂😂
Fast as fuckkkkkk
Slayaaaaar
Noisy
If you put in 2x you can't hear any sound off the guitars only the solos
83-90, was only one band on planet earth...
around 210 bpm, I tried to check
Key word tried
+30bpm
@@ovaismalikvo Exactly. 240 BPM is what I measured. (Plus and minus a couple of BPM here and there.)
Jesus Lars slow down!!!!!
This is just ridiculously fast lmfaoo
Have they always used a prerecorded intro for this song? Why not do it live? It doesn't sound that hard to play.
Yes, they have always used this into, except the first live perfomances of FFWF in 83 and early 84
I assume they don’t know how to play finger style, I think cliff played it on the studio album
Most often, but in the very beginning they did not: ua-cam.com/video/R_V8KCI4DLA/v-deo.html
james recorded it - he plays fingerstyle @@kjl3080