Definitely don’t sleep on Fui (Rank 51) and Ron (53) from Japan. They aren’t as consistent as Yoshidora, but they have also made some big things happen. Ron hasn’t been that active, but I know Fui has a Doramigi win this season. For Diddy, Ryouh, Chicken, and NyonoKnb have all been doing great in Japan. Ryouh got top 8 at 2 S tier’s and a P tier last season, Chicken just got 9th at an S tier last week and got a Maister win last season, and NyonoKnb had got a few top 16 placements at majors with wins on players like Rarikkusu, Raki, and TamaP.
He’s here 100% but he’s largely moved on from Smash BECAUSE of how weak his main is. He carried Rosa harder than anyone else carried a character besides Spargo, but the character is actually mid
Yoshi is such a weird character to me; he was underrated in 64, Melee, and Ultimate and made sudden jumps in the tier lists in each game. Yoshi is likely the most underrated character viability-wise in the franchise; people often forget how good he can be, and when people push the character, they get great results.
The worst is if you ask an Ult Yoshi downplayer to name a bad button in ult, they can't. Even side b has potential for shield break setups on platforms lol
So happy you covered Toriguri !! Was a believer in Banjo for a while before he came onto the scene and I’m so happy he’s doing well now. Also, just so you know, keep your eyes on Juanpi !! He’s very easily the second best Banjo (dual mains Palu) and will for sure get his spotlight soon.
For R.O.B., I also think Lucretio was very defining for another playstyle that's possible with the character, inspiring players like Iopoppo and Titanium but also Zomba himself.
This is a really neat concept for a video, really shows off the character specialists. If you're making another video, there's Protobanham (still the only player who made Lucina look top tier), Asimo (probably top 10 this year, and I think the only person to ever beat tweek's diddy with an FGC character which is insane), Skyjay (currently in a sad state), Chunkykong, Lvl.1 (single-handedly raised everyone's opinion on the character as the best LoZ char), and some smaller shoutouts in Gachipi (insanely good lucario), Metara, and Big D (the first ice climber to make it to the top in ult)
I think Hikaru’s DK doesn’t play much but he showed a glimpse of how far DK’s limits can really go. chunky is good but based on the video’s theme I don’t think he belongs
Fun fact about nair on diddy i was on an m2k stream and asked him why people didn't use nair in 4 given the fact you could get it for free at low %s from rising bair and easily do like 50-60% off of it. The response was "everyone just spammed fair" or something along those lines. And no, im not kidding, he actually has some disgusting combos with nair in sm4sh not to mention is is FANTASTIC for catching air dodge landings and sets up for a nair up air kill confirm lmfao
I don't agree with Yoshidora, he is the most visible but both Ron and Fui are equally as skilled and show of Yoshi's capabilities. To be honest, I think Ron is more capable and if he attended more offline he would be just as respected as Yoshidora. P.S. Kameme's Sora.
Ill give you that, Ron is incredible and has improved a ton in 2024, I shouldve at least mentioned him but I do think Yoshidora is still better and get Yoshi's name out there first at least But Im rooting for him regardless he is amazing
Ron's neutral is wayyyyyy better than Yoshidora's imo too, the neutral of Ron is unbelievable in my opinion. There's a reason Japan thinks so highly of Yoshi, and it's not only Yoshidora
To a lesser degree, as crazy as it sounds, even Roy is starting to become one of the characters. It's similar to the Corrin situation where a lot of people play them. For Corrin, there's Shadic, Ly, Neo, and DieGorou. For Roy, there's Kola, Alice, Goblin, and Leo for the first part of the year. However, Goblin hasn't done amazing this year with his best result being 9th at Patchwork, Leo's Roy did the least out of the majority of characters he has used at any point in time, and Alice is the only other Roy who has had solid results much like how Neo was the only other Corrin who achieved consistent offline results outside of Shadic. Roy is absolutely still 11th-15th range, but right now, it's pretty much just the Kola show with a guest appearance from Alice here and there, especially after Leo dropped Roy. Yes, Sparg0 now uses Roy, but it's only for Sonix like how his Corrin was only for Sonic players and Riddles
@jesuspernia8031 I'd say he's barely outside of top 10. He struggles against a surprising amount of characters and most of his losing matchups are really meta relevant
@ I honestly believe the only bad matchups he has are Pikachu and Kazuya. Like I seriously believe Roy is busted as fuck bro. Oh yeah and out of sheer curiosity where do you think Falco and C. Falcon are? I know it’s unrelated but I’m just curious.
Spargo also won a major with roy ik you mentioned it but given how little time he had to practice roy it’s gotta show you some part of the char is really good
to me, the reason why there’s so few top Fox players outside of Light and Kaninabe is how fast of a refresh rate the character demands to make the character extremely strong. his advantage state is so reactions based with tech chasing, frame traps, shield pressure, and ledgetrapping as is his neutral with making the most of his absurd movement stats. you have to make decisions so quickly to overwhelm your opponent and that can be really difficult and tiring. he’s also punishing if your execution is off. the reward is still there if you manage to do it tho, the character is top 7 for me.
My main/mains do well ag diddy, banjo, and even fox to an extent so i never really thought they were THAT good. (Xept fox.) I still think banjo is mid but never bad. But yeah skill goes a long way. Pit and yoshi have allways been a thorn in my side till recently. Im getting better at those MUs
I think you should have included Sparg0 with Cloud. Like, have you seen the difference between him and the 2nd best Cloud in schustats? It's just crazy
![[SSBU] The Move That Makes Cloud Good](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LNX18ZToOa4/mqdefault.jpg)
This channel is going to grow insanely especially with the marss video.
Definitely don’t sleep on Fui (Rank 51) and Ron (53) from Japan. They aren’t as consistent as Yoshidora, but they have also made some big things happen. Ron hasn’t been that active, but I know Fui has a Doramigi win this season. For Diddy, Ryouh, Chicken, and NyonoKnb have all been doing great in Japan. Ryouh got top 8 at 2 S tier’s and a P tier last season, Chicken just got 9th at an S tier last week and got a Maister win last season, and NyonoKnb had got a few top 16 placements at majors with wins on players like Rarikkusu, Raki, and TamaP.
Lowkey Dabuz needs to be here, He's the reason people think about Rosa as a somewhat low high tier now.
He’s here 100% but he’s largely moved on from Smash BECAUSE of how weak his main is. He carried Rosa harder than anyone else carried a character besides Spargo, but the character is actually mid
Rosa is still mid, he just hard carries that character lmfao
not me skipping the entire video to get to the gluttony glaze
Yoshi is such a weird character to me; he was underrated in 64, Melee, and Ultimate and made sudden jumps in the tier lists in each game. Yoshi is likely the most underrated character viability-wise in the franchise; people often forget how good he can be, and when people push the character, they get great results.
The worst is if you ask an Ult Yoshi downplayer to name a bad button in ult, they can't. Even side b has potential for shield break setups on platforms lol
@@crescentryoshi3717 Honestly, if you buff Eggroll to be useful, like make it a diet Spin Dash, then Yoshi would be a top tier.
Just after Marss reacted to the first one 😃. Love your videos man.
So happy you covered Toriguri !!
Was a believer in Banjo for a while before he came onto the scene and I’m so happy he’s doing well now. Also, just so you know, keep your eyes on Juanpi !! He’s very easily the second best Banjo (dual mains Palu) and will for sure get his spotlight soon.
For R.O.B., I also think Lucretio was very defining for another playstyle that's possible with the character, inspiring players like Iopoppo and Titanium but also Zomba himself.
This is a really neat concept for a video, really shows off the character specialists. If you're making another video, there's Protobanham (still the only player who made Lucina look top tier), Asimo (probably top 10 this year, and I think the only person to ever beat tweek's diddy with an FGC character which is insane), Skyjay (currently in a sad state), Chunkykong, Lvl.1 (single-handedly raised everyone's opinion on the character as the best LoZ char), and some smaller shoutouts in Gachipi (insanely good lucario), Metara, and Big D (the first ice climber to make it to the top in ult)
Dont worry Ill be talking about Protobanham and Chunkykong very soon!
I think Hikaru’s DK doesn’t play much but he showed a glimpse of how far DK’s limits can really go. chunky is good but based on the video’s theme I don’t think he belongs
@@danield8632 Hikaru's really good, but I think Chunkykong really redefined how the character could play
14:21 i get it now, your character is suposed to look like the proffesor from the ds game
Fun fact about nair on diddy i was on an m2k stream and asked him why people didn't use nair in 4 given the fact you could get it for free at low %s from rising bair and easily do like 50-60% off of it.
The response was "everyone just spammed fair" or something along those lines.
And no, im not kidding, he actually has some disgusting combos with nair in sm4sh not to mention is is FANTASTIC for catching air dodge landings and sets up for a nair up air kill confirm lmfao
That ending was literally SO well said dude I coulda teared up 😌
I don't agree with Yoshidora, he is the most visible but both Ron and Fui are equally as skilled and show of Yoshi's capabilities. To be honest, I think Ron is more capable and if he attended more offline he would be just as respected as Yoshidora.
P.S. Kameme's Sora.
Ill give you that, Ron is incredible and has improved a ton in 2024, I shouldve at least mentioned him but I do think Yoshidora is still better and get Yoshi's name out there first at least
But Im rooting for him regardless he is amazing
Ron's neutral is wayyyyyy better than Yoshidora's imo too, the neutral of Ron is unbelievable in my opinion. There's a reason Japan thinks so highly of Yoshi, and it's not only Yoshidora
Fui and Pharaoh have also been on the rise lately,
To a lesser degree, as crazy as it sounds, even Roy is starting to become one of the characters. It's similar to the Corrin situation where a lot of people play them. For Corrin, there's Shadic, Ly, Neo, and DieGorou. For Roy, there's Kola, Alice, Goblin, and Leo for the first part of the year. However, Goblin hasn't done amazing this year with his best result being 9th at Patchwork, Leo's Roy did the least out of the majority of characters he has used at any point in time, and Alice is the only other Roy who has had solid results much like how Neo was the only other Corrin who achieved consistent offline results outside of Shadic. Roy is absolutely still 11th-15th range, but right now, it's pretty much just the Kola show with a guest appearance from Alice here and there, especially after Leo dropped Roy. Yes, Sparg0 now uses Roy, but it's only for Sonix like how his Corrin was only for Sonic players and Riddles
Roy still top 10 don’t @ me 😳😳
@jesuspernia8031 I'd say he's barely outside of top 10. He struggles against a surprising amount of characters and most of his losing matchups are really meta relevant
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I honestly believe the only bad matchups he has are Pikachu and Kazuya. Like I seriously believe Roy is busted as fuck bro.
Oh yeah and out of sheer curiosity where do you think Falco and C. Falcon are? I know it’s unrelated but I’m just curious.
Spargo also won a major with roy ik you mentioned it but given how little time he had to practice roy it’s gotta show you some part of the char is really good
@@williamhenning4764 I don't consider that a major win for Roy because he used him in a single set, and not even for all 5 games
There's a lot of good Yoshi's in Japan like ran and fui who have top 8ed in big events and there's pharo too but nobody id like yoshidora
to me, the reason why there’s so few top Fox players outside of Light and Kaninabe is how fast of a refresh rate the character demands to make the character extremely strong. his advantage state is so reactions based with tech chasing, frame traps, shield pressure, and ledgetrapping as is his neutral with making the most of his absurd movement stats. you have to make decisions so quickly to overwhelm your opponent and that can be really difficult and tiring. he’s also punishing if your execution is off. the reward is still there if you manage to do it tho, the character is top 7 for me.
U make so good videos bro i just see the last 3 in a row, good Job bro
My main/mains do well ag diddy, banjo, and even fox to an extent so i never really thought they were THAT good. (Xept fox.)
I still think banjo is mid but never bad.
But yeah skill goes a long way.
Pit and yoshi have allways been a thorn in my side till recently. Im getting better at those MUs
Akakikusu (Japanese Hero Player) should be on this list too.
Nah, there’s still BeastModePaul
before watching, stopping if this man shows me a fox player
5:20 welp
Saying that when Yoshi is on the thumbnail is honestly criminal, just saying lol.
3:03 off cuttng erro. But come to think of it you might be able to fix it in the YT editor
Thanks! Ill fix it
I think you should have included Sparg0 with Cloud. Like, have you seen the difference between him and the 2nd best Cloud in schustats? It's just crazy
i did in the first video actually!
ua-cam.com/video/tvpKh6UHpPw/v-deo.html
@@TavaresSSB oh I didn't know there was a first video xDDD
Your first video actually got reviewed by Marrs on yt earlier today.
I saw! It was awesome to see
Don’t show Marss getting destroyed against Light
Look at my homie going crazy at UA-cam 🥹
Someone @ marss