Jeep Wrangler JL Winch Install on Stock Bumper - Warn Zeon 12s & Ultrahook - Ecodiesel
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One of the most important mods I feel is adding a winch. It lets me get out of pretty much most situations and some confidence to push obstacles. I installed a Warn Zeon 12s and Factor 55 Ultrahook into my factory steel bumper. I used Warn's winch cradle allows you bolt a winch in and retain that factory look.
Products in this video (affiliate links):
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On this channel you will find off road adventures, Jeep mods, & Off Road guides and advice. I own a modified Jeep Wrangler JK and a 2020 Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel JL. I work with many large brands such as Teraflex, Warn, SPOT, and 67 Designs creating awesome product guides and reviews. I am from British Columbia, Canada, but travel through out the Pacific Northwest and attend various offroad events such as Jeepapalooza, Jeep Jamboree & Jeep Beach. I upload a new video every week to the channel and in 2021 plan to head south to the Rubicon trail and Moab. Some other great channels that I follow are The Story Till Now, Dirt Garage, LiteBrite, Trail Recon, JK Gear and Gadgets, The Cheap Jeeper, & The Bearded Jeeper.
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Nice job...Nice to see a non-professional mechanic doing these jobs...Thanks for sharing...Should be a testament to Warn's straight forward installation...
Thx. Ya am not very mechanically inclined. This is a super easy install.
Tutorial starts at 6:27, for those using this to install their own winch like me! Thanks for the video!
Good job keeping it real with this winch installation. I've found doing mods with new products, we kind of learn as we go.
I just bought this exact set up, thanks for sharing the install. man is this video ever old, you're a seasoned pro now!
Haha thanks. Congrats on the new purchase.
Great video, thanks for taking the extra time to record and explain. Looks great, cheers!
Thank you!!
I honestly never seen a synthetic rope winch line before! You learn something new every day! Thanks for the video Casey! ✌🏼
Dang really?
Casey 250 nope, my gang we were all steel cable and snatch block guys.
I installed the exact same setup on mine Saturday. Minus the wireless control. Great video, happy wheeling!
Thanks! Good choice :)
Thanks for the help Casey just installed sSmittybuilt gen3 1200 with your sage words
I love Warn winches. I installed a Warn Zeon 10S Platinum on my JL and I love it! Great video as usual!
That is the winch I have on my JK. Great option too.
Is there a weight difference and size difference between the 10k and 12 k?
Thanks for this video, it was super helpful while installing mine today. Funny enough, I also have a Bright White EcoDiesel, so I’m definitely watching everything you do to yours. I was initially going to go with the 10-S, but went ahead and did the 12-S instead. Mine actually came with nuts to go on the five bolts that held the plate, so I was pretty impressed with that. Keep up the good work!
I had a bunch of nuts but they don't fit the bolts. I'm just avoiding going to Home Depot right now to get nuts lol.
Installing this same set up as soon as fedex arrives. Great video will help out.
Very nice stuff - reminds me of when installed winch on my jku hard rock bumper
Another fine video very clear and precise, thank you.
Appreciate it! Thank you.
Great video. Love the mods!
Thank you.
Love your videos. Keep them coming 👍
Thanks
I have a 2021 Gladiator EcoDiesel. I bought the factory steel bumper and the Warn Platinum 12S with the wireless remote.
The long zip ties were missing so I bought some larger zip ties.
The Warn winch bracket holes didn't line up with the Warn winch so I had to use a rotary steel file to enlarge two of the 4 holes on the winch bracket.
I have to wire the winch, spool the rope, and install the bumper.
I bought the Factor 55 in blue and the rope protector. My Gladiator is Hydro Blue.
I was kind of surprised that the Zeon winches aren't already set up with wireless and you have to buy the add on. Their lower budget VR series winches are already wireless right out of the box. Good looking rig ya got there btw. Have fun building it up and stay safe!!
I agree with you! The platinum has the wireless remote for the Zeon series (but is quite a price bump too, and the chassis is larger) but it would be nice to have the basic wireless remote like the new VR's have.
Great video. I went with the same setup on my Wrangler 392, but it's impossible to get the Warn winch plate these days. Going with the Bulldog version which is readily available and is, I'm told, just as good as the Warn version. It also doesn't have the license plate mount which I like.
Another awesome video - slowly coming together! :)
Getting there.
Great video. Helpful hints.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love your build, can't wait for you to get the lift
Thanks! My front shocks just arrived.
Can't wait to see you putting it together
Now I'll have to make sure I get the Steel Bumper. Looks great!
This is a great, easy, cost effective way to put a winch on a Jeep for sure.
Love the front steel bumper by Mopar . Extremely functional and lighter weight then other aftermarket bumpers minus aluminum bumpers. I know many who wheel with those bumpers to this day. I unfortunately did not get them with my JL, so went with Crawler Concepts recessed winch front bumper for my JL. One of the closest fitments. Meaning gives one of the best approach angles of aftermarket front bumpers for JL and only weighs 50 lbs for a steel bumper. Keep up the great videos. Love watching you build that Eco JLUR from Chris in CALI.
Did you have to cut the frame for the CC bumper? Definitely the factory steel bumper is a great addon that Jeep was smart to make available! Appreciate the comments on the videos! Back bumper next :)
@@Casey250 I did not go with the ZEON went with the Warn VR Evo 10S so not the same size. Winching here is fewer and far between. So went with the newer entry level warn winch. Has the wireless and wired setup as well. Even with the Zeon all you would have to do is grind the corners off the mounting points on top of frame mounts. Just close plating to frame on front of bumper. Tight fit for everything. Now the back bumper is a different story, most likely you will be replacing I assume.
I could talk hours about the JL. As long as you work to try and keep it light as possible seeing your already lighter than a stock JKUR by 600 to 800 lbs . The GEN 3 DANA 44 are so strong. They can be built to be stronger than OEM Dana 60's with C-gussets, trusses, RCV axels (front and rear{new ones out}[rated for 43" tires]) on the Dana 44's. You can run 40" tires with those axles with proper attention to weight management. So will float better on snow and climb easier with more clearance. You could not do that with the weak JKUR Dana 44 axles. At least not be stronger than OEM 60 axles.
I have this exact winch and set up on my Jeep too but my ultrahook is red because that’s all they had in stock at the time. My Jeep is also white too with the steel bumper group.
Awesome stuff mate, looking so good, I might need to get one in my jk
A must have! :)
Not sure how ok’d this is but awesome job. Got an idea for those open bolt holes, mount some lights. A small light at should fit in that space and it’d provide extra lighting.
Nice job! I put a Zeon 10S on my JLUR & agree with your thoughts. Wish the lic plate tab wasn't part of the fairlead mount. Rather than reinstall the bolts to fill the holes from the top bumper filler, I used plastic push plugs installed with a little black silicone; same for the hole left when removing the passenger bumper end. They have a slightly textured matte finish that matches the OE bumper perfectly.
Very nice. I like the plastic plug idea that several have mentioned!
Thanks for the install video. Definitely helpful. I am having trouble reinstalling the skid plate since the bumper has been moved just slightly. The front five bolts didn't give me an issue, but the rear two did. Did you have this issue? If so, how did you correct it?
I haven't had that issue and have removed it many times. Make sure your bumper is tightened all the way.
Looking sharp 😎👍🤙
Amazing video love it :)
Thanks so much!
Great Job in the detail of doing this install documentry. Thank you.... I have the same truck and Warn setup and it really helped show me the best way to do this. Subscribed ... ;)
Awesome, glad I could help!
@@Casey250 If we can ever help ya hit us up. This is my company FlowRite Performance Services! ;)
I ran into same thing regarding power cables being barely long enough for Warn winches. Is Warn that clever?
I think so ... lol ...
I have the 2021 JL Eco Diesel Unlimited sport Willys edition.. looks like front bumper is same so asking if you know if installation is same as what you did here ?
Also I’ve got myself in some snow last year and needed to get winched out - from my rear of jeep .. had me wanting a rear mounted winch which would have saved me the $300 emergency call out in middle of the night from a forest service road on mount hood .. :/
Casey do a second quick video on what you did to finish the install with all the bolts and cable completed. I would like to see the finished product with your commentary. Cheers
Will do!!
Good video; very helpful. Looks good on your rig.
Thanks. I love this hook so far and looks awesome
@@Casey250 I have the same hook on my Scrambler. It’s badass!
Looks great.
Thanks for the info! Yu just saved me tons of $$$
Mine came with a bag of nuts for the valance plate Torx bolts.
Great video, was re-installing the skid plates easy or did you face any problems?
No issues at all. Found this install very easy and im not very mechanically inclined.
Leave that lower front skid off and cut off those walrus tusks!!! Im excited to see the falcon 2.1 installed and reviewed! I’m getting ready for new shocks and there on my list.
I think they should be here this week.
With the warm 12,000 lb platinum I had to band saw 2/16ths on each side of the mounts where the bumper goes. 24.5 inches is that the platinum was length wise. I had 24.1 before I cut. Guess yours fit in there with no issues.
Ya the plat is a big beast. I had to notch my grill on my JK to fit it with Evo bumper.
That hook is crazy but cooooollll
ya bro
Since this is my next project on my eco diesel , did you have to cut off/ break off any bolts on the skid plate mount like I have see others complain about doing this install ? Or was it without any modification ( like it is supposed to be ). Just curious what I am getting myself into . Thanks
Bolted right in.
Does the 16.5ti have the same level of water proofing?
Hey Casey, love the channel and the Eco is going to be sweet! Quick question on your JK, did you have a hood vent to help keep the engine cool? I have a 15 JKU Rubi and was curious if I should get a vented hood to help with engine cooling.
I added an Evo hood breach. Lot a lot of heat out. As well, removing the fender liners lets a ton of heat out too.
@@Casey250 Awesome thanks for suggestion. Did you have any issues with water getting into the engine bay with the Evo? I live in CO, where we get a ton of snow, but I know you're up in BC, which gets a ton of rain. Any issue for you?
That's a good question, thought about hood vents also but we also have a lot of rain and I got all sorts of answers, from it rains right through to no water inside... Couldn't decide yet
Never had an issue. Water gets in but the engines are made to get wet.
Any issues getting the ultra hook on that spydura rope? I have a flat link e that I couldn’t get on the rope of my zeon 10s. The thimble at the end of the rope wouldn’t fit into the slot in the flat link.
Nope. Slipped right in. Something happened to my footage of my putting it in but its pretty basic. Factor 55 did mention that some of the metal eyes on the synthetic need to be 'massaged' a but with a mallot to fit in to the slot but doesnt damage the eyelet.
Were you able to reinstall the rear steel skidplate bolts? On my 2019 JLUR, the Warn winch plate moved the bumper forward (the gauge of the plate), and results in the rear skidplate bolts not lining up with the holes.
Yes
I just subscribed!👍
Welcome to the channel!
Is that the low height rise or mid rise Warn Bull Bar been looking at them for a while cheaper and little better looking than factory MOPAR one
Low
Hey Casey, I'm wondering why you decided to keep the Mopar bumper considering that there are so many after market options? Keep up the great content!
One of the biggest considerations with this Jeep is to try to keep it 'legal'. Being able to replace the end caps if needed helps with that, as well bumpers here need to have crash cans that function as OEM so it meets that need too. As well, it was most cost effective to do this. As well, I can show you guys how it worked out, this Jeep will evolve over the next 2 years I imagine.
I wouldt be happy if you put on the prices on things you bought on your Nice Jeep. L&R 🇳🇴
Did the oem skid plate go back on correctly
Who makes that bull bar? I want to get one. Winch is on my list for my Gladiator. I enjoy following your videos
Warn. I prefer the Mopar version.
Where did you get the bull bar.
Isn’t the hawse fairlead supposed to get bolted all the way through the bumper AND new winch plate? I am trying to figure out how you installed the fairlead onto the bumper before you installed the bumper?
Ya I screwed it up lol
Nice how low the winch sets down into the factory bumper as not to impede air flow. The Zeon winches have a control pack relocation kit if required. In you case not necessary.
Ya it tucks down low.
I'm interested in following your build. I tried to order a diesel Wrangler last week, was told no more diesels until 2021 models. They are supposed to open the factory May 4, 1 shift for now but no diesels. Guess the Italian factory is shut down?
Ya I just was talking with my dealer this morning. He tried to order one and it was restricted. No engines available from Italy is what sounds like the issue.
I was told the Warn zeon 12s wouldn’t fit in the 10th Anniversary bumpers.
Now that you have the winch, what are you going to connect the hook to on a 2-line, snatch block pull? These have no place to mount a D-ring and the aftermarket recovery points require you to cut the bumper to make them fit. What were the Jeep engineers thinking here? They could at least given us an option to purchase a recovery package and made the bumper to accommodate a later upgrade, rather than doing an aftermarket hack job.
Sweet buddy.
Thanks 👍 :) :)
Sir do you have any Buyer's remorse since you found out all the pros and cons ? What do you love about your Diesel and dislike? Do you find your Diesel worth what you paid for it? Thank you
Nope, I welcome the challenges and paving the way on diesel wrangler mods and wheeling. The torque is great and I love how it sounds. Its hard to put a price on what you find 'worth in' with a vehicle, if your looking to get into a JL and be as budget friendly as possible then skip the diesel and maybe even a Rubicon. If you want the most powerful motor and all the options of a rubicon, then this is a great spec. The $6k cdnextra for the motor (I was getting an auto either way) seems like a cheap upgrade for more power to handle future mods.
What brand is the bull bar you installed above the winch?
Warn.
I personally think for the price of the warn winch it should already be wireless but good video like usual bud 👍👍👍
Would be nice to have the basic wireless controller that is on the VR series now.
Nice winch! When are you putting on the Trail Scales? Looking good, interested to see the rubber you go with.
Scales are being made this week. Probably a couple weeks before its lifted on bigger tires. I want to go out again stock.
@@Casey250 Thanks for taking the time to reply! Looking forward to the Scales, I will be in the market for some soon.
I can't decide on a design yet so I just made some temporary clear ones.
@@Casey250 fair enough, I plan on a full custom, something Westcoast themed like my Jeep.
Everyone who installs a winch should consider installing a power interrupt switch you can put all the plastic loom you want on the positive battery cable but in the event of an accident short out that positive cable and you got one burnt up jeep Warn sells a nice kit #62132 pricey but cheaper than another Jeep
a good idea I will consider.
What about the electric cables? How did you put it?
Sorry i lost the footage of my camera. I tried to explain it towards the end of the video.
hi casey i have one quick question i need your help i want to install a warn winch on my rubicon 2020 4 doors i am so Confuse with 10s or 12 s i need your advice Which when I pick .....is this 10s is enough for me or i go to the 12 s ...... If you can give me advice it’s big help i always watch your videos and i trust on you i know you are Expired for this .... thank you
I believe winches should be 1.5x the GVW of your vehicle. I have a 10s in my JK and my 12s in my JL, the 10s has never let me down in the JK. I wanted to try the 12s in the JL to see if the line speed was noticable. For a JL, I don't think the 10s or 12s will make a difference. Keep in mind the 12s is slower and has a shorter line (80ft vs 100ft) but if you are using your winch with out spooling out enough wraps, its rating is decreased the more wraps that are spooled on the barrel.
Who makes the bull bar you used?
Warn
Maybe for the 5 holes left behind from removing the wench plate find rubber or plastic plugs this way you eliminate another potential rust area(s) by using bolts.
Ya good idea.
Isnt there a company that makes those ?
If you find them send me a link :)
@@Casey250 of course bro 💪
equinetnn.com/Rubber-Stud-Hole-Plugs-400925-6019/?currency=USD&gclid=Cj0KCQjwy6T1BRDXARIsAIqCTXoia3CpfN2z_wel7XMV06LiOVLNSW67HyMPNn96ZfafhhZUr3XnQecaAtHUEALw_wcB
I couldn't find the ones i thought someone made, but a set of these should just push right in the bolts spots, and prevent that rust from forming
What’s the four year life with the diesel been like?
How often do you actually use the winch over these past 2 years?
Probably 50% of the time I go out wheelin.
Are u goin too wheel this thing and are you worried about scratches
Putting some trail scales on and some light protective film in a few trouble spots and then I am not worried. I wanted to get my winch on and my air compressor so I don't have to worry about airing down low and driving home.
Pure silicone grease would work well to pull the eyelet through the drum.
Not sure id want to add a chemical compound to my winch line
12s ///why not the 10-S
Get to the install already.
That bull bar would be a great quarantine project, who makes it?
Warn
Casey 250 Thanks much
Apparently, Warn includes the 5 nuts for the upper plate bolts.
So i've heard and seen in other kits ive installed, but not mine :(
@@Casey250 I just picked up my Warn winch and Warn bracket today. I hope to install it soon. I will see what hardware it has.
Paint the tow hooks yellow to match the ultra hook
We will see. I like just the one thing being yellow on the Jeep.
@@Casey250 Cool man, do you. Loving the Jeep and content so far!
maybe plastic/rubber plugs for those 5 holes...less prone to rust and safer for the winch.
True true. Ill dig around on amazon, as im avoiding trips to the hardware store if not needed.
Casey 250 my warn winch plate came with new nuts to put those bolts back in place around the opening on top.
Oh really!? Im going to have to go take a look through my hardware! Thank you. Love learning something from you guys comments!!!
Why not buy synthetic rope ? U don’t have to worry about Kinetic energy ? I actually like the simplicity of this mount !! I’m a lost , I thought was a weight for the wench line ...ok it’s rope handle and attach point ... like it
It is synthetic.
That has to be the most difficult way I've ever seen the synthetic rope installed. Its much easier to do once the wince is installed on the vehicle.
I disagree, there is almost zero room to work with this installed.
@@Casey250 huh. I didn't have an issue and was able to fully seat my puck. Interesting.
@@michaelhalstead64 Lots of ways to accomplish the same thing I suppose!
Who makes the bull bar?
Warn. Link in description if you want to check it out.
Sorry, I did look but missed it. Thanks.
It also comes in 3 different sizes.
Yellow!
:)
Casey 250 didn’t realize you liked yellow. What happened to the other Jeep? Did I miss something?
Just the hook is gonna be yellow. JK is sitting in the driveway still.
I absolutely hate redoing a install, either skipping a step or finding out later that should have been done 1st. Most men don’t bother with instructions. Ah that would be me.🤔
Casey, how many wire rope (steel cable) have you seen fail? How many synthetic ropes have you seen fail? I have been wheeling sence 1978 and have owned a jeep and a winch sence 78 I personally have never seen a winch cable fail but I have seen 4 synthetic ropes fail. Nothing personal I like your channel but I don't like people repeating what they have heard from people peddling products. I do know you can't own a JK or JL with with cable.
Hey thx for the comment, appreciate you bringing this up and I will share my thoughts further on this subject. Synthetic line is inherently safer in any situation that any point in the rigging fails, there isn't really a debate, the physics of the line don't store and release energy like steel cable. Cable can be safe but requires more knowledge and education on operating it safely (dampers and distance). I've seen a shackle fail as people like to buy the cheapest ones they can find (I like to only rig with my shackles but you still need to attach some someones bumper / mount point), and I've seen rigging fail moving a large log off a trail. Could they be avoided, maybe, but synthetic gives a little more insurance. My personal preference is synthetic line as I don't find the extra cost to be considerably that much more, its lighter, doesn't rust and can be handled if needed with out gloves, is faster to setup a recovery, and is safer should something go wrong and / or someone be standing in the wrong place. As much as we like to think we can control everyone around us during a recovery, it just takes one wrong decision and one unfortunate thing to happen and someone can loose a life and when there is two options for me to choose, I will go with synthetic every time. I just don't see the down side to synthetic beyond cleaning, inspecting, and spending a little money to replace it when it wears down.
need prices ballpark at least
Ultrahook is in $300 range. Canadian pricing is different then USA pricing too
12,000 lb winch? You pulling a M1 Abrams out of a ditch or logging with that? Seems excessive for a Jeep. But I suppose if you got a buddy with an F350 who gets stuck a lot why the hell not!
Having more winch pull is not an issue. By the time you figure how much pull you lose with each layer of rope on the drum, it is not overkill.
You made a BIG mistake by not throwing the positive battery cable that came with the winch. If you want even more efficiency from the winch with less heat build-up, go find a length of used welding cable someone has replaced and solder ends on to it. The large strands in the battery cable will heat almost immediately. Heat in that cable reduces the amperage it can carry. Welding cable is made to carry high amperage for long durations and will not heat nearly as much as the battery cable. This is an old heavy equipment mechanic's trick.
Thanks for the info. I trust the engineering at Warn, and I have never had issues with battery cables on any of my Warn winches.
@@Casey250 Here is the easy way to check what I'm telling you about the battery cable. Do a pull under even a moderate load on the winch for 20-feet or more while holding the battery cable in your hand. It will begin heating immediately. Try that with the welding cable and you'll find far less increase in temperature. That is allowing the maximum amperage to get to the winch motor and is going to save your switching and motor from excessive heat and failure. The battery cables will work of course, but it's an easy improvement to upgrade.
@@onejerrysmith Thanks for the experiment to try. I may do that just to see.
Zeon *
Ha. All this time and I didnt even notice that typo
@@Casey250 i notice it was also a old video haha