First Ride 2023 Husqvarna TC250 Fuel Injected and Electric Start! - Motocross Action Magazine
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2022
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Motocross Action Magazine first ride on the all new 2023 Husqvarna TC250 two stroke at Fox Raceway. These are pre-production models from Husqvarna and they brought out a few for us to try out. We spend the day spinning as many laps as we could on these bikes before Husqvarna said we had to play nice and share with other media outlets. We give you all the details so far that we have learned on these two stroke models in this video. Josh Mosiman walks you through the tech and some early feedback from riding at Fox Raceway with a fuel injected two stroke underneath him. We will be doing a full TESTED video at a later date once these bikes release which is expected to be in September of 2022.
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good to see manufacturers not only continuing to produce 2 strokes but actually put in the r&d and try new things on them
well really its just trickle down from 4 strokes, still awesome tho
Maybe we’ll get to see a full pro gate of two strokes again after all✊🏽💨‼️
@@JayDeeFrm7400you won’t, but you’ll definitely see more privateers on them
Got to have Stankdog as a test rider.
Stinkdog sucks
Yes
Hell yeah
That’s what I was thinking
Hell yes!
Love all your shows on 2 strokes. Thank you for reinforcing your support for them on this video. Very sincere!
The all white with navy blue and hint of yellow did look the best. Like a white stallion horse.
Love the go pro vid at the end. No music/talking, just raw 2 stroke...
guys luvd the upload thanku for taking the time and uploading i love the bike looks sik. Just like to say for the next vid it was realy hard to hear what u guys wer tlkng about just letting you know .
Sounds awesome! With the new Frame/EFI/Electric Start, it does add about 7 - 10 lb s. Does the bike have a more planted feel especially in turns than last year's bike?
Thanks Josh can’t wait to ride my new KTM300SX
Love the commentary 👍👍👍
As always, great review!
Good looking bike.... colors really flow on this thing
the views at this tack are phenomenal ! coming from the uk we ride in a farm yard that smells like sheep poop lol. id love to come to your home country and let rip it looks amazing
Ahhhh can‘t wait to buy this beast!!!!!
What a great and fun bike!. The dream of a weekend warrior. It's nimble, light and sounds great. After having few sessions on it, I would say it feels rigid at the beginning, but turns well, front wheel have a good grip. The difference between MAP1 and MAP2 is massive. Power delivery is much more linear now (with mellow map1 it felt even a bit boring on good grip track) and probably now with MAP1 the the bike is easier to ride in slippery condition. MAP2 felt aggressive and compared my previous 2018 TC250, the new bike felt faster from low to medium rpm, but more or less the same at higher rpm. The "sweet spot" window is much wider.
Hey i like your comment. I want to start motocross and i am riding sportsbike and supermotos for 10 years now. I know 125 2stroke or 250 4stroke its recommended as a good beginner bike. But how do you see the tc250/sx 250 for a beginner now when its way more smooth and with map1 also not that powerful. Would you recommend for a beginner who also wants riding a bit enduro and just got sand tracks at my area ? thx a lot
@@CornflakesArni Probably a little late... but in my opinion if you have ridden sport bikes and supermotos you should be fine on the 250 2stoke. You should have some respect for the bikes from riding sport bikes and are not a total noob. Take it slow and learn the powerband and you will be golden. Power band feels pretty much like a super sports transition from the lower rpms to the high rpm if that makes sense.
@@CornflakesArni*update* just checked your channel out. If you can handle the ktm 690 you will be completly fine. I had a 2021 690 supermoto as well. Great bikes
Gorgeous bike.
What about those Radiator caps? Any issues so far with the Rockstar's that are the same?
That was cool!
Just got the 2024 can’t wait for monday
Was the husky that much lower than the KTM. I'm 5-9 and have a tough time on my 2021.5 FE KTM 450. Was there any down sides to being lower.
I do enjoy the Husky blue and Yellow. I love the addition of the Slate/Gray.
could you put this lowered shock and fork on the ktm, im assuming you could? and is it just the suspension thats shorter but has same travel? Im a shorter rider but ive always has & loved my ktm 350s, how they look and the engine package, but i run with my forks dropped to line 3 and SDI linkage & dipped seat, to give me more confidence in the corners, the husky suspension could be the answer for me moving forward, with the ktm being even taller than last model, id still want ktm I may even try that 300 smoker if i can get my hands on one
Wicked helmet cam action! Awesome bike
2016 before the balancer came in are 👌with the red power spring
Those things have the nastiest sound with the stock pipe / silencers ! They sound great and seem to run perfect ! Who was your fellow test rider ?
Damn that bike is absolutely gorgeous dang omg that batch is so fine
So, how much weight does the starter and battery add to the bike,, compared to the weight of a kicker ??
Such a crazy color scheme! Stoked to see em in person!
You mean it sucks.
@@HorsepowerHouse Get rid of the gray and make it white and it would look so much better lol
@@dumbdumb572 You mean get rid of ALL of the colors. Ughhh... Bad.
@@dumbdumb572 the heritage model is all white and has black excels
Always loved the husky’s
I have a modded 18' TC 250. It rips , but even with the mods I did , the power is very linear . It took me a while to get used to the way it is compared to my older 2 strokes. Watching Josh ride it , it seems very , very mellow....AND it definitely looks smaller / shorter than my bike. Also.......jetting can be a little bit of a pain , but I believe it's the correct way to make a MX 2 stroke run right. I run modded PWK carbs on both my 125 and 250 ( STIC in the 125 ). The EFI is something I'll let the bugs get worked for a couple years. Not sold on it as far as MX 2 strokes go. Offroad of course......MX , not so much.
I have a total of 4 STIC equipped bikes now. The STIC is such a fantastic upgrade. I have one in my '18 150, '18 300, 1996 360 SX and 1989 500MX. In each case, there is more power down low, a smoother transition and significantly more top-end rev, plus they feel like they rev more freely than with a standard PWK. An added benefit is that they are not elevation sensitive and they use less fuel. Good stuff!
Nice, I'm considering one of these because imm just not liking the 4T. Glad to here these have a very linear easier to use power delivery
@@j-sammys5549yeah I have a 23 fc250, amazing bike but want the 2 stroke counter part. Nice to hear that the power is nice and smooth
Jetting is a pain in the a$$. You got it perfect and then the next week the weather changes drastically. ill take the fi any day
Also agree about them blubbery bottom on stock carb ktm’s. It’s that damn mikuni carb. To get em to run crisp off bottom you have to lean them out way too much to get em crisp on the bottom. To keep ‘em running safe you have to keep the sputtery bottom with a hard hitting mid to top. First thing I changed on my bike was taking the mikuni off and putting a keihin on it cleaned that bottom up instantly. It’s just ktm being cheap with their choice in carb. Which I suppose is no longer a concern 😂😂😅
Mikunis also have problem with the metering gasket that fails. I did keihin on mine too, such a ripper now.
Yes, KTM was having supply issues with Keihin on the PWK carbs. Honda has a stake in Keihin, so there could have been some politics behind it. I am a big fan of the PWKs, and especially when equipped with a STIC metering block.
they been making 2 strokes for 50 years and still cant jet a stock carb its a joke just like all the suspension and other loads of bull they sell
Don’t forget TM just had a massive update of all its bikes and has TBI already on the market on the enduro model, they also do a 300mx 2t.
Getting parts for them is terrible though
@@livefastdiequick I've never had any issues, I'm in Australia and I had a top end kit delivered over night by my importer, usually our postal system is garbage. I'd get another any day of the week
@@johnbajada8338 I’m in US. Trust me, it’s tough
Controversial words… If it’s easy to ride because of the way power is delivered, why u want more crispy? Husky consumers target are not those who race constantly…. Ktm it is.
About suspension, if u race regularly and want a husky, upgrade ur suspension internally or change it completely.🤷🏻♂️
For me, sounds like the bike is already perfectly aligned to the brand’s target market.👌🏼🤩 I would buy one of this!
Nice bike can't wait ride a efi 2t
Bravo Josh! Husqvarna pronounced correct 👏🏽
Wooooo!
300 race bikes LETS GOOOOO
Tm updated their 2 strokes for 2022 too!!
Is that a case inducted intake?
I like the colors of the plastics, but the frame color I don't think matches the new color schem. Black or gunmetal grey would have been a better choice IMO.
Gunmetal grey would look sick on this bike!!!
Can a 300cc kit from a KTM fit on the husky 250?
Tech in fuel, is it tubeless?
Yummy.. I just like to take a second for us all to thank the gods of 2 stroke. Praise be to Ringa-ding-ding-ding.
I would be interested in how to "jet" it. Like street bikes these bikes use static map's for air/fuel ratio. They do not adjust for altitude just because they are fuel injected. So how do you change the air/fuel ratio from sea level to where I'm at almost 7k feet above sea level?
Most likely has a phone app or you can buy a tuner
It does it automatically. Just like a fuel injected automobile.
I want one.
So we all enjoyed this video, but at no time did you compare this husqy 250TC to a 2021 250cc Yamaha YZ for example...
Which one wins in terms of power and speed between the 2 when the famous green button is activated on the Husqvarna TC 250cc? The 2nd and 3rd gear is more insane with the Husqy or the Yamaha wins and still remains unbeatable?
Thank you for answering this valuable question!
Stock horsey? 50hp at the crank?
suspension looked really soft, did you stiffen the clickers?
It was really soft. We didn't adjust clickers, only stock sag and stock air pressure in the forks. They only let us ride them for a little bit so we didn't get to play with suspension clickers.
This is what mx bikes are supposed to sound like too.
Josh, what does it weigh?
I like the radiator shrouds better than the ktm shape
What is that intro song I’ve gone through all the comments and tried to Shazam it 😩
Nice husky 2023 dirt bike Motocross action magazine great review 👍❤️
I’ve ridden quads when I was like 9-12 but then stopped riding but now I want to buy a dirt bike which I’ve never ridden but I’m 5’4 so don’t know if I should start like on a 150 but I really don’t want to outgrow it and have to buy a new one again so I’ve been looking into the crf250Rx but I really want a 2 stroke and that’s why I’m here and also like Ktm 250 sx & Husqvarna but there obviously more expensive but I will keep doing my research on this 2 stroke to see which one is better and which one I like more ktm or Husqvarna
Wish it release this Summer :(
I do not know all that much about two-strokes in California. I live in Santa Monica and don't have a dirt bike right now. I'm 58 - and tired. heh. But how do you get to ride these new two-stokes in SoCal. I thought they were basically banned? Or are these cleaner burning or something?
Closed course competition bikes, only registered 2 stroke registered (highway use) bikes were fazed out....not sure they were officially banned.
Maybe I missed it or we'll have to wait for the full review, but what is the weight difference with the addition of electric start? Thanks
Roughly 4-5 kg (~ 10 lbs) weight increases depending on the model
I dig the color scheme and simple graphics. It yells I'm fast and don't need to be flashy to prove it. I hope they don't put the electronic power valve on the offroad models. Being able to change that on the fly with a Kreft Dial is a huge advantage.
Don’t think the graphics makes bikes looks fast lol
When do you get to test the Stark Varg?
We didn't get to test it yet. Maybe later on. The bike was having issues when we were supposed to fly there and test it. Then we couldn't get our schedules to work after they postponed on the day we had planned for it.
When will Josh put one of these in an outdoor race - stock minus revalve
he needs to run the new 300 ktm
Just make a special edition. This bike Flys low on the radar. Looks like a winner. Sounds great. Barry low and mid. Little revin but seems low and mid better
Like the color, wish they would have dumped the blue color on the frame.
Think this is gonna be the next bike
The new color scheme is a home run!
what tire model is that?
Mapswitch has been with us since.. what? 2004?
Well that's it. I'm selling my YZ250 for one
Was it too much effort to put a kickstarter on just in case?
Let this boy run against the 250 four strokes!
You do know that the 250 4t bikes race in the same class as 125 2t? a 250 2t has quite a bit more power than the same size 4t
Dumb question… so what fuel ratio do you mix? Or does it have a separate oil tank like those TPI bikes had?
They told us 60:1 ratio
@@joshmosiman1955 dang that's lean haha
@@joshmosiman1955 Thats crazy lean in my world.
Good, high quality oil is the key. Use the OEM spec and there should never be an issue. DO NOT get cheap on 2 T premix oil or injector oil.
@@TripleWhopperWithCheese more oil makes the fuel more dense so less can pass thru a jet in turn making the engine run leaner, the oil amount is only to control engine friction and lubrication
Can a regular person still work on this Two stroke or is it a little bit to complex for reg folks?? Just wondering?? And Rite on to KTM and Yamaha for saving the 2stroke 🤘
2 stroke is more simple compared to a 4 stroke
@@waris6755 In general they are , but these must have a lot more electrical things? Being FI . Was wondering about the power valve assembly and FI system ? But I guess still relatively more simple than a 4 stroke 👍
@@ronaldtravis970 electrical power valve is for sure going to have some problems. Old 2007 Husqvarna supermoto 2 stroke models had electrical power valves and they got so much hate and people just locked them to most up position because of the reliability
@@ronaldtravis970 probably just swap out a solenoid on the electrical side. Could be unforseen mechanical problems pop up. First couple years consumers are helping r&d.
sorry did i hear a nine in the msrp?
It may as well have come with a headlight if it's got electric start.
Keep 2 Smokin
do a 85cc shoot out
No 300ccm like ktm ?
when will the 2 strokes be released to dealers?.. is it the end of July or something like that?..
They say that we'll start seeing them in October
I love that KTM is pushing 2-strokes forward when everyone else has (except Yamaha) has completely abandoned them (yes I realize there are others like Beta)
Tm already have tbi on their enduro bikes and just had a massive update on their 22mdl. Also electric start and electric pv for years.
@@johnbajada8338 yeah I get that but I'm a motocross junkie it's nice to see them get the tech on MX models
Like the new color scheme.
Looks like Ronnie Mac needs to submit a business plan for husky resources……….
One thing I see tht cooling hose that is routed through the pipe I see premature failure even for local pit riders let alone weekend warriors to gncc riders…..
Even though not MX though TM does, as does Beta, Sherco offer core 2ts and modern 2t even though still carbed those brands keeping 2ts alive and are among those brands biggest sellers. Rules saved the 4t not performance.
I actually like the look of the new Husky’s the grey/yellow, I dig it..
Also I’d just buy a Tv 250 TBI and later on down the track just by the cylinder and piston kit for the 23 300 TX300 and Wack it on the TC250, might need the ECU? but anyone that serious prob look at a GET or Vortex anyway, simple done.
2 strokes highlander in mx
hydraulic clutch?
Yes hydraulic still!
Man I got a 22 model if I only waited 1 more year
I saw this coming so I held off. Glad I did lol
First!!
Are these 50:1 mix?
I have to admit, as I’ve gotten old and wildly out of riding shape, I’ve finally started to enjoy the 4 strokes. These later model 2 stokes are so smooth though, I could def see myself going back to one. That said, with my Varg coming… I’m probably headed to “Full Retard” electric 🤣 They’re going to be tough to beat and too convenient to ride.
Right now Husky is saying 60:1 ratio.
what happens at 32-1 is that too rich@@joshmosiman1955
Not a fan of the snot yellow and gray. I wish Husky would pick a color scheme and stick with it. I think they should go back to the burgundy like they had in the seventies. I think white fenders and a burgundy tank and fork guards would look killer.
Not a word about oil.
Its obviously premix but doesnt bother mentioning
You can tell that you have been riding a CARBED 2 stroke! You folks are going to have to learn how to warm up a FI bike. You can't do what you did in the beginning of the video with one of these, they will cold seize! Temp is much more important to the FI, because the ECU is what is controlling the fuel. TPI owners had to learn that also.
Why didn't it cold seize?
The ecu is only part of the equation and if your not running a lean map your bike wont seize cold. TPI is different than tbi. Seperate oil tank. Oil in fuel on this bike is going to keep the cylinder lubed correctly despite temps. If your map is set up correctly you can cold rev, not saying it’s good for the motor but it isn’t going to cold seize like a TPI bike would.
@@user-mo8tm4jw2l I stand corrected, I forgot about the oil in the fuel. That does make all the difference. It;s still hard on the motor though.
Didn't even know husqvarna built dirtbikes
can not wait to see the stark varg!
The coloring is Swedish so that’s where that comes from
But...if you modify things it will have to be remapped.
TM (not KTM) has been doing this for a few years already.
Snowmobiles have been doing this for at least 30 years.
Electric starting for Moto two strokes* my 2017 Husqvarna TX300 comes with electric start haha
First time in years Ive heard someone pronounce "Husqvarna" without the "A". Its usually "Husk-A-Varna". Even heard a Husky rep use the A before.
Who cares
Looks sick. Too bad about the FI and electric start. Id rather have a kicker.
Nah
They have "Grab Here" written on the bike below the back of the seat ? How stupid are people getting when they have to do that ? Really ??🤪
Well
Think about police car doors...
They don't want cops get in a Taxi may be ..
What's his height ? the bike looks too low.
I'm 6 foot! The bike is about an inch or more lower than the KTM (we haven't measured yet). It also has soft suspension which makes it sit lower too. I weigh 175lbs
@@joshmosiman1955 Thanks man!
this damn thing will be gapping all day long.
great thing about 2 strokes was simplicity, low cost and much less weight....not anymore :(
You can always buy a Yamaha
The fundamentals are still the same, a top end still costs $100 to do and can be done in an hour. It's still the two stroke you love, it's not like fuel injectors and fuel pumps are high failure rate parts or expensive/ difficult to replace. The benefits far outweigh the cons here.
@@abracing199 What bike is 100$ for a top end rebuild, on my husky it's closer to 200$
I don't get why they continue with 250's....in motocross the 250 2 stroke is dead. They should build something around 320-330 cc's with mild port timing to give them a wider smoother powerband. Something similar to a four stroke without all the expensive parts. Us old guys that owned 360 Yamahas and TS400 Suzukis know what I'm talking about. Hell they could be air cooled and save more weight after all there's no weight limit in local races only proracing and theses wouldn't be raced there anyway. It would be for the masses....kind of why the VW was made.
These companies usually have insight on the future of the sport long before we the consumers get to see it. If they're putting this much R&D into FI 2 strokes, something tells me this could be the future and things may be changing. The recommended ratio is 60:1, and that's lean. Makes you wonder if these meet emission.
Matt Burkeen, Qualified and Rode the 450 main on a stock YZ250 2 banger all season at the highest level in the sport, very interesting result to some
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