This was incredibly enlightening. I have had a preoccupation problem my entire life, even as a small child. It's always been SOMEthing. But yeah, I'd say it could get close to obsessive at times. It just happens to be my pain at this phase of my life So this video gave me a huge light bulb moment, lots of food for thought, and best of all - HOPE. Thanks Tanner, fantastic, useful-in-real-life content as always.
Is loving to read a preoccupation problem? It was a way of getting a quiet moment in a noisy family for an introvert when I was young. But yes, I can worry away at a problem like a dog with a bone. Whereas I've found if I go for a walk or meditate - often a solution comes to be AFTER I've rested my brain and become calm. Great video, Tanner!
This is gold Tanner!!! Wow. Im certainly addicted to preoccupation, I can totally relate to all the preoccupied topics you mentioned. There's a fine line between being passionate and obsessive. I like to deep dive into subjects I am interested in, but then if I watch my mind there are lots of things going on, I dont want to miss something, I like discovering things so need to discover more things, I have fomo, which is all danger producing thoughts. I now am thinking my preoccupation with losing weight is probably causing a rise in cortisol and producing the exact opposite of what I want, my body will hang onto the weight because of my heightened sense of danger around this topic. Talk about a pardigm shift. I like using IFS when I'm merged with a part. So I'm going to work on recognising when I'm merged with a preoccupied part. And soothe it.
The pandemic was brutal for that. Hopefully, as life normalizes somewhat the preoccupation will as well! Love these weekly reminders. I hope I don't become preoccupied waiting for the next one 🙂
You’re so helpful and informative, Dr Tanner! Really appreciated this video! Definitely can see my preoccupation started long ago. It’s very interesting. It seems to me that this is something I’ll have to address for a lifetime. Can’t escape it, have to embrace myself and learn to love and accept myself through this tumultuous life’s journey.
Spot on. In one of the success stories on the tmswiki, the guy says "Thinking about my problem WAS the problem". That sums it up. When I can get my mind on something else, something that engages me or I enjoy, I realize after that the discomfort is better. At my worst I would say I was thinking about it 90-100% of the time, not even 80. (and I am trying to cut back or stop even watching these kind of videos. Informative as they are. ) Thank you for your work.
Great video. What about preoccupation that has nothing to do with our illness? I find that I get much more preoccupied or even obsessed with unrelated things when I am ill. Probably as a way of finding something other than my illness and related problems to think about. Having some other stuff to think about should be good, but it so easily shifts into preoccupation and can actually be quite tiring.
Thanks, Tanner. This really resonates with me. As you pointed out, that first R is the hardest… just recognizing when I am so lost in preoccupation and fight or flight. But I'm working on it and this really helps. 🙏
This is very interesting. I do get extra preoccupied by thinking about certain things. I enjoy a lot of my preoccupations interests but some of them are things that could be stressful like I really like to know what’s going on in the world and news, I think it could have something to do with growing up in a chaotic environment and always being an adult even as a child I had to be aware of what’s going on
Well that is all me have to work on this I am constantly thinking about my pain have to tell myself this is NOT going to be helpful then start saying I am safe right thank you for this wonderful explanation love Lenneke 🌹😘
Tanner I’ve been working on this for 6 months and even got to a pain free period. But since it’s come back it’s been spreading to a new place every couple weeks. Should I keep doing what helped the first time or is that keeping me from healing. Am I getting worse or is this normal?
Good questions! This is fairly normal, as people with Mind-Body concerns often can have symptoms return. Doing what you did last time can be helpful, however recovery often occurs more due to the attitude then the strategies I find. It could be useful if you try and adopt the attitude you had last time. Sometimes we can be trying to force recovery to happen like it did before, which can worsen pain symptoms. Hope this helps!
As an elderly CPPS sufferer and doctor plagued 24/7 by pain, I get it but isn't it somewhat specious to claim you can mitigate your pain by deciding not to be 'preoccupied' by it, as if it was an obsession or addiction? Assuming the pain is real, what person in his right mind would seek it out? If anything, he wishes it went away or at least let up.
Hy sir! I have seen ur video so much amazing, I hope This applies for depression, anxiety and pain(psychological) ? i think iam phsycosomatic from long run emotions. I heard somewhere anxiety converts in to pain and somatic symptoms pathways. Even when depression and anxiety get remissioned. Im getting suicidal thoughts. Iam just 28 years old. iam suffering from severe depression And physical bodily pain symptoms for last 3 months, iam taking two psych meds present.. can i tapper of both clonazepam (0.5 mg) & vortioxetin (10mg) have been using for 3 weeks only.. I don't want to stay on these pills which cannot give me relef rather more I'll feeling.. Please advice me n ur support needed 🙏 iam eagerly waiting for ur reply, I don't want to regret in future help me.. Does ur idea helps me to overcome depression and physical pain also.. Please help me out🙏
Thanks for your comment. If you are feeling suicidal please ensure you reach out to local supports in your area. Yes depression and anxiety can often result in physical pain symptoms occurring. Sometimes getting counseling for depression and anxiety can help reduce the pain when we understand that helping our brain feel safer can cause the danger signal of pain to stop being sent. Pain Reprocessing Therapy can also be really effective in reducing Neuroplastic pain symptoms, you could try out a few of my meditation videos if you haven't yet. Hope this helps! Please take care of yourself!
Great video. What about preoccupation that has nothing to do with our illness? I find that I get much more preoccupied or even obsessed with unrelated things when I am ill. Probably as a way of finding something other than my illness and related problems to think about. Having some other stuff to think about should be good, but it so easily shifts into preoccupation and can actually be quite tiring.
This was incredibly enlightening. I have had a preoccupation problem my entire life, even as a small child. It's always been SOMEthing. But yeah, I'd say it could get close to obsessive at times. It just happens to be my pain at this phase of my life So this video gave me a huge light bulb moment, lots of food for thought, and best of all - HOPE. Thanks Tanner, fantastic, useful-in-real-life content as always.
I'm so happy this was helpful! It is such an important thing to work on! Keep going!
T@@painpsychotherapy Thanks so much :)
Is loving to read a preoccupation problem? It was a way of getting a quiet moment in a noisy family for an introvert when I was young. But yes, I can worry away at a problem like a dog with a bone. Whereas I've found if I go for a walk or meditate - often a solution comes to be AFTER I've rested my brain and become calm. Great video, Tanner!
I'm so glad it was helpful! Preoccupation can be identified because it comes with dysregulation and distress.
Wow that's an eye opener. Ive never considered preoccupation as an addiction but it absolutely is. I was born a preoccupation addict
I'm so glad this video was helpful. Happy healing!
Thank you for continuing to share your wisdom!
Of course! You are welcome!
This is gold Tanner!!! Wow. Im certainly addicted to preoccupation, I can totally relate to all the preoccupied topics you mentioned. There's a fine line between being passionate and obsessive. I like to deep dive into subjects I am interested in, but then if I watch my mind there are lots of things going on, I dont want to miss something, I like discovering things so need to discover more things, I have fomo, which is all danger producing thoughts. I now am thinking my preoccupation with losing weight is probably causing a rise in cortisol and producing the exact opposite of what I want, my body will hang onto the weight because of my heightened sense of danger around this topic. Talk about a pardigm shift.
I like using IFS when I'm merged with a part. So I'm going to work on recognising when I'm merged with a preoccupied part. And soothe it.
Yes it is so important to reduce preoccupation to reduce our pain. It can be tricky. Also I love parts work! Keep going!
The pandemic was brutal for that. Hopefully, as life normalizes somewhat the preoccupation will as well!
Love these weekly reminders. I hope I don't become preoccupied waiting for the next one 🙂
Glad they are helpful! Agreed the pandemic was so isolating and I know for so many including myself it caused us to be more lost in thought.
You’re so helpful and informative, Dr Tanner! Really appreciated this video! Definitely can see my preoccupation started long ago. It’s very interesting. It seems to me that this is something I’ll have to address for a lifetime. Can’t escape it, have to embrace myself and learn to love and accept myself through this tumultuous life’s journey.
So happy this video was helpful. These are great insights you are having. Keep going! (also I'm not a doctor, as I have a masters degree).
Spot on. In one of the success stories on the tmswiki, the guy says "Thinking about my problem WAS the problem". That sums it up. When I can get my mind on something else, something that engages me or I enjoy, I realize after that the discomfort is better. At my worst I would say I was thinking about it 90-100% of the time, not even 80. (and I am trying to cut back or stop even watching these kind of videos. Informative as they are. ) Thank you for your work.
Thanks. These are good insights. Yes reducing preoccupation is so important for recovery.
Great video. What about preoccupation that has nothing to do with our illness? I find that I get much more preoccupied or even obsessed with unrelated things when I am ill. Probably as a way of finding something other than my illness and related problems to think about. Having some other stuff to think about should be good, but it so easily shifts into preoccupation and can actually be quite tiring.
This is so common! Generally it is really important to reduce preoccupation regardless of the topic to reduce Neuroplastic pain. Keep going!
I’m really glad I found you and your videos Tanner. I think this video was just what I needed today.
I'm so happy my channel has been helpful for you!
Thanks, Tanner. This really resonates with me. As you pointed out, that first R is the hardest… just recognizing when I am so lost in preoccupation and fight or flight. But I'm working on it and this really helps. 🙏
So happy it was helpful! The first R is the hardest even for me! Keep going!
Very good! You have a lovely way of getting the information across. Thx!!!
I'm so happy it was helpful!
Very educational. Thank you so much
You are welcome!
Great Information! Thank you for explaining in such Great Detail
I'm so glad it was helpful!
This is very interesting. I do get extra preoccupied by thinking about certain things. I enjoy a lot of my preoccupations interests but some of them are things that could be stressful like I really like to know what’s going on in the world and news, I think it could have something to do with growing up in a chaotic environment and always being an adult even as a child I had to be aware of what’s going on
I'm so happy this was helpful. I find reducing preoccupation can be so important for healing. It sounds like you are making good insights.
Sooo helpful. Thanks a million ❤
I'm so glad it was helpful!
Well that is all me have to work on this I am constantly thinking about my pain have to tell myself this is NOT going to be helpful then start saying I am safe right thank you for this wonderful explanation love Lenneke 🌹😘
You're welcome!
Well, that's a familiar story. Nice one Tanner!
Thanks. Yes it is such a common struggle for people with Mind-Body concerns.
3 Rs-Recognize, Reappraise (this thought preoccupation is not helpful), Replace w messages of safety
Thanks!
So true. So true.
So important to focus on this while we are healing!
Tanner I’ve been working on this for 6 months and even got to a pain free period. But since it’s come back it’s been spreading to a new place every couple weeks. Should I keep doing what helped the first time or is that keeping me from healing. Am I getting worse or is this normal?
Good questions! This is fairly normal, as people with Mind-Body concerns often can have symptoms return. Doing what you did last time can be helpful, however recovery often occurs more due to the attitude then the strategies I find. It could be useful if you try and adopt the attitude you had last time. Sometimes we can be trying to force recovery to happen like it did before, which can worsen pain symptoms. Hope this helps!
Thank u il try
You're welcome!
As an elderly CPPS sufferer and doctor plagued 24/7 by pain, I get it but isn't it somewhat specious to claim you can mitigate your pain by deciding not to be 'preoccupied' by it, as if it was an obsession or addiction? Assuming the pain is real, what person in his right mind would seek it out? If anything, he wishes it went away or at least let up.
Yes, I completely get this is a hard one to buy in to. I know personally this was an important part of my healing. Keep going!
Also I am so sorry to hear about the pain you are going through.
i healed from cpps
Good info.
So glad it was helpful!
@@painpsychotherapy it really is, preoccupation is definitely what l’ve been doing for a long, long time.
Hy sir! I have seen ur video so much amazing,
I hope
This applies for depression, anxiety and pain(psychological) ? i think iam phsycosomatic from long run emotions.
I heard somewhere anxiety converts in to pain and somatic symptoms pathways. Even when depression and anxiety get remissioned.
Im getting suicidal thoughts. Iam just 28 years old.
iam suffering from severe depression And physical bodily pain symptoms for last 3 months, iam taking two psych meds present.. can i tapper of both clonazepam (0.5 mg) & vortioxetin (10mg) have been using for 3 weeks only.. I don't want to stay on these pills which cannot give me relef rather more I'll feeling.. Please advice me n ur support needed 🙏 iam eagerly waiting for ur reply, I don't want to regret in future help me.. Does ur idea helps me to overcome depression and physical pain also.. Please help me out🙏
Thanks for your comment. If you are feeling suicidal please ensure you reach out to local supports in your area. Yes depression and anxiety can often result in physical pain symptoms occurring. Sometimes getting counseling for depression and anxiety can help reduce the pain when we understand that helping our brain feel safer can cause the danger signal of pain to stop being sent. Pain Reprocessing Therapy can also be really effective in reducing Neuroplastic pain symptoms, you could try out a few of my meditation videos if you haven't yet. Hope this helps! Please take care of yourself!
What are the 3 Rs again?
The 3Rs are recognize, reappraise, and replace!
@@painpsychotherapy thank you Tanner! Much appreciated 😊
Great video. What about preoccupation that has nothing to do with our illness? I find that I get much more preoccupied or even obsessed with unrelated things when I am ill. Probably as a way of finding something other than my illness and related problems to think about.
Having some other stuff to think about should be good, but it so easily shifts into preoccupation and can actually be quite tiring.
This is so common! Generally it is really important to reduce preoccupation regardless of the topic to reduce Neuroplastic pain. Keep going!
Thanks a lot!@@painpsychotherapy