EVIL Pokemon Moves! Every Dark Type Move Explained! | Gnoggin
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- DARK TYPE POKEMON are evil right? Then what about their moves is so wrong? Why are dark type Pokemon moves dark? That's this video.
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This video goes over the following moves:
Assurance
Baddy Bad
Beat Up
Bite
Black Hole Eclipse
Brutal Swing
Crunch
Dark Pulse
Dark Void
Darkest Lariat
Embargo
Fake Tears
False Surrender
Feint Attack
Fiery Wrath
Flatter
Fling
Foul Play
G-Max One Blow
G-Max Snooze
Hone Claws
Hyperspace Fury
Jaw Lock
Knock Off
Lash Out
Malicious Moonsault
Max Darkness
Memento
Nasty Plot
Night Daze
Night Slash
Obstruct
Parting Shot
Payback
Power Trip
Punishment
Pursuit
Quash
Snarl
Snatch
Sucker Punch
Switcheroo
Taunt
Thief
Throat Chop
Topsy-Turvy
Torment
And Wicked Blow
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#darkPokemon #pokemontheory #pokemonmoves
Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out!
Favorite dark move is faint attack, because in the anime a sneasel once used it, and it just pointed elsewhere for one of Ash's pokemon to look in a direction, they looked, and sneasel slapped them when they were looking. Purely dastardly.
Fun fact: the move's name was changed to *Feint* Attack in Generation VI.
THE RUDENESS! HOW DEVILISH
Being a butt
Black hole eclipse looks extremely epic imo
Hey, look over there!
What?
CRUNCH!
>throws held item
"Dude what the heck"
>steals opponent's held item
"DUDE WHY"
>throws that item back at them
"WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM" ;-;
Lol
Indecisiveness. That's the problem.
The mental image of that for me is AMAZING
This is the first time a youtube comment actually makes me blurt out laughing
Recycles his items to throw again:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
As a wrestling fan I can say why “Malicious Moonsault” is dark type.
Back in the 70s, doing ANY MOVE off the top rope was considered cheating and grounds for disqualification. You’re not being strong, you’re using gravity to hurt someone by falling on them.
That rule got dropped later on because it just looks so cool jumping off the top rope. Thanks Randy Savage. RIP
That's super interesting. Only knowing late 90's wrestling I couldn't imagine a world where only heels did moves off the top rope. It's as iconic to wrestling as dunks are to basketball.
Also, from a gameplay perspective it isn't it's own move, it's a transformation of darkes lariat, so it keeps the dark type
24:53 I imagine Obstruct as some goon (an OBSTAgoon) blocking your path looking like he's doing it unconsciously, but he's really looking to pick on you and when you ask to get past he acts tough and you're unable to fight at your full potential, because you're intimidated.
Imagine a Pokémon move thats Literraly the Bite of 87.
Like "87 Bite"
@@Mattno.777 no.
I always interpreted Flatter as being like when a person who's normally a jackass compliments you, and you're just like, "wait, what?" And it completely breaks your focus.
Nidoqueen: "Hey honey! I love your hair!"
Gardevoir: "Why are you being nice? Do you want something?"
Nidoqueen: "Whaaaaaat? I don't want anything."
I would argue that "dark aura" could also be a sort of insert for 'killing intent', which is something that is often shown in Japanese media - someone's dark thoughts and anger made into an oppressive aura that can even kill creatures with weak enough wills, and able to generally weaken the receivers of the intents.
Crunch has lowered defense instead of special defense since generation 4 when the physical special split happened. Dark was a special attack type before gen 4 so crunch lowered special defense. Then it got turned into a physical attack that lowered defense.
Same thing with Acid. Used to lower physical defense, but now lowers special defense because it's a special move now. Interestingly, the same does not apply to Shadow Ball. It always lowered special defense, even back when it was a physical move.
See, that makes WAY more sense! I guess I gotta start checking every generation, as this isn't the first time I've missed such changes. The UA-cam editor is nice, I have cut the added 'special' part of that descriptor, though it takes a few hours to a day to take effect.
@@Gnoggin In the video you literally showed a description saying that it lowered Defense.
Grenji give him the benefit of the doubt that it was edited in and he might have not realized until he saw this comment
@@Gnoggin also Empoleon, Primeape, Pangoro, and Incineroar lines got Power Trip in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, not just in generation 8, not just the Krookodile line.
"Have you ever gone down a dark alleyway at night and gotten Shanked?"
What a great way to start a video.
But WHY does it hurt???
Well, have you?
Has he?
batman can relate
Your life sucks. Because you got shanked.
And because you got shanked, your life sucks.
PAIN HURTS.
"Your life sucks a bit more because of all the [generic thing related to the type] in your eyes."
My favourite quote.
The [dirt] in your eyes
Gonna put some [generic thing related to the type] in your eye
I preffer the
"It's (thing)
(Thing) hurts"
@@oscarrenaupallares330
Attack moves: "[thing related to type] hurts"
Status moves: "your life is sucks more because there's [thing related to type] in your eyes"
@@TheHammerGuy94 [Pure fricking fae energy) hurts
Your life sucks more because there's [Pure cuteness] in your eyes.
Fairy types, amiright?
Fairy type: I have nature magic!
Dragon type: I have sorcery!
Rock and Ground: We have geomancy!
Water type: I have.. water-mancy?
Dark type:
*We have bad thoughts.*
I think water magic is called hydromancy
@@chaosanimation4107 yeah
...... isn't geomancy a fairy move or do I not know what geomancy is
I think it's both
@@mlbScenes both
That is why i like dark type
"How do you...steal a bird landing?" cracked me up, ngl
#201
Type: Psychic
Offense: Kind of Bad
Defense: Kind of Good
Desiree Ferland Robinson is that a yes to all are looking at you just lol p I don't
Desiree Ferland Robinson out
thanks
Desiree Ferland Robinson uuoo OODT OOUUUTT ooouuuo
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"Local fictional monster reasearcher gets stabbed in a dark alleyway for the sake of science"
The stabber is probably bisharp
XD
@@galladesamurai2380 for someone whom has Gallade prof. Picture, quite funny (counterpart typing)
Peter Schultz this was way to funny
@@Dz73zxxx I literally think bisharp is gallade's arch nemesis
Night Daze was originally Zoroark's signature move. Its whole deal is that Zoroak has crazy illusion powers. I've always thought that night daze is using dark illusions of night to daze the opponent, thus making it harder for them to see properly and thus lowers their accuracy.
You're actually correct.
@@Nosretep you're right he is correct
Yeah but i wish it was physical instead of special
Which contradicts with zoroark gimmick of illusions since it tells the opponent that the illusion is zoroark
@@Sharde-xe1sn Why Physical? It's immune to Intimidate,Burns,Iron Barbs and ect.
There are two levels of underhanded fighting:
Partner Eevee: uwu I'm so mean, hehe. Watch this, I can make a super bad pillar of darkness!
Sneasle: *steals the opponent's nuts*
Even if the Pokemon is female
@Petroceus Astra shhh
@Petroceus Astra *uses surgery to add them, and then steal them*
*steal the time you used to read this*
joe biden
The Dark-type should have a 'Diss'-move where you leave the opponent burned.
Salazzle: hmm they’re poisoned so lemme venom drench just to rub it in
Weavile upon being switched in: lol noob u thought, you think you’re so high and mighty cuz you can poison anything but sadly, your gimmicky move gets denied by something as easy as a switch
_Salazzle was burned!_
Ok I just remembered that salazzle is fire type but let’s just say that the diss causes an emotional burn that translates to a burn status regardless of the target’s type because nobody is safe from a good roast
that sounds pretty 200 iq
@@decidueyefan3844 i mean that’s how lick works.
You got licked by a ghost/yokai that’s so terrifying and you got horribly disgusted u got paralyzed.
Roast sounds more fitting. 20 power, 24 pp, Dark Special, 100% chance of burn.
@@lykos2327 that's broken it's a better will o wisp
Move: lowers accuracy
Everyone: say the line, Lockstin!
Lockstin: your life sucks just a bit more now, because you have darkness in your eyes.
Everyone: * cheering *
The line is amazing
*wAs tHaT a sImPsOnS rEfReNcE?*
Replace it with “Heat hurts”
Yay!!!
Dark Types be like: “all I have are negative thoughts”.
uses saddness to hurt enemies
"Well that's not a snarl at all!"
Except it is. To snarl also means to speak angrily.
_"Get away from me, weakling. You're worthless!" He snarled_
@@jameshamaker9321 ...yes, and it's also used to describe a way of speaking, because words can have more than one definition. Just like "snarl" also means "tangled" or "caught up".
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@@Silburific
I think you mean Snared
Why are we talking about the definitions of snarl?
Cat Leone AYYY
About "Hone Claws": I could imagine that it's dark-type because you are sharpening your weapons in front of you opponent. Which is a very threatening/intimidating thing to do.
Hmmm makes sense
I would imagine that Snatch is a trope-related move. The impossible thief, the ability to steal anything from keys to the boxers of a fully armored guard with a mere bump to the shoulder, and only realize it when they try and find it, or the thief has shown it off. Snatch is a form of stealing, but in the form of impossible concepts that makes them an insanely masterful thief. Stealing is bad, even conceptually, so it's Dark Type. :P
Oh, like how the skeleton key in the elder scrolls is able to break metaphysical locks? I can't remember the specifics but I'm pretty sure in the lore some guy used the key to 'unlock his potential'
like Ban from 7 sins, he steals magic, and powers and buffs
@@benjaminwertz2379 or fairys from lobotomy corp. binah uses them to "Unlock" people stomachs.
Fun Fact: For those who don’t know every dark type attack in the game and even some dark type stats moves has a secondary effect, so if you’re using a dark type attack there is always a chance for something extra to occur.
Elaborate please. You've intrigued me.
@@neoncobalt1779 I went through the entire list of dark type moves. Only dark move that doesn't have a secondary effect is Hidden Power, and I'm not sure if that counts.That and Black Hole Eclipse. I'd say that kinda counts since even Malicious Moonsault has a secondary effect.
@@djroscurro9859 Wow, that's very interesting. Thanks for that fact!
What about Foul Play and Punishment? They don't have secondary effects.
Brutal Swing doesn't have a secondary effect... unless you count hitting more than 1 target a secondary effect...
As someone who knows everything about Gallade, it also learns Throat Chop.
Umbreon can learn it via TR
So can Sneasel and Weavile, I think.
Yep,also gallade is my favorite pokemon if you couldn't tell
I guess, by LvlUp? Because, yeah, I know how signature works, but idk.
So can toxtricity via tr
why the heck isn't oblivion wing a dark type move? It's literally called Death wing in Japanese, sounds very dark to me
my fave dark type is obtsagoon lol
I guess Wing takes part
*dragon* accend
I thought that it was a dark move at first when I saw the animation
Only good reason i can think of is because of the problem between game type mechanics and Lore. Oblivion wing sucks the life force out of beings, a dark thing to do but given it is literally sucking a soul it should not be limited by what would normally resist dark type e.g fighters, fairies, bugs. they all still have spirits so ofcourse they should be drained still so flying type works better for the match up
main resistances to the attack as a flying type move would be rock and steel who make more sense to resist the attack since their spirits would be different from other beings since they are rock and machine creatures so harder to tap in to their soul.
Electric resistance does work but close enough i think
Dragon Ascent indirectly summons a weather condition that gives FLYING-types an upper hand. It's a Flying-type move through and through.
The whole Snatch explanation was so hilarious. I want to suggest the theory that the user briefly steals the opponent's powers and copies their attack, but the nonsensical explanation is just priceless.
Lockstin: "Snatch shouldn't be Dark type because it's supernatural."
Also Lockstin: "Dark Pulse goes woosh."
Look, man. Snatch is Dark type because it's *stealing* from the foe. Stealing is pretty Dark; you said it so yourself.
Yeah, but the move also makes no sense. It's literally stealing moves. Muk attempts to use Acid Armor, but Sneasel somehow steals that action and uses Acid Armor itself, and Muk just sits there and does nothing.
@@DrPumpkinz Its pokemon magic
Or logic!
@@DrPumpkinz it is just the nature of the move. Instead of stealing something physical, they instead steal the move that the pokemon was going to use gaining all the benefits while the opponent only spent energy. It is a typical thing for overlord villains to do. The Hero is about to obtain some supercool power or object and the villain swoops down at the last moment, takes it and corrupts it, making it there's to use. It makes perfect sense why it is a dark type attack.
To be fair, he did say that the Dark type does work well. He just thinks the idea makes no sense for the Dark type in a literal sense. Like it's thievery yes so Dark type is fair but the mechanics of what is happening make no sense for a Dark type Pokemon to carry out, so it would ultimately make more sense to be Ghost or Psychic.
It's ultimately the same issue as Topsy Turvy. Like yeah reversing all a Pokemons stat buffs IS a sneaky underhanded thing to do so Dark type makes sense in that way, but that type of metaphysical control in a literal sense requires some form of Psychic powers so Psychic or Ghost type would make more sense logistically.
"No pokemon is gonna have training against such demigod power"
Ah yes, I love when I train my pikachu to defend against a weaponized rupture in space
Um.. If you are saying Deoxys or Necrozma..
They are both Psychic Type.. Huh
Your chibi shiny Charizard is cute. May I pet him?
A good ol' palkia
I see Dark Pulse as being like a Telepathic attack. You just show extremely disturbing images to the opponent. I assume most special dark type attacks are somewhat Telephatic.
Just show someone a bunch of cursed images and bam! You've used Dark Pulse.
(Just kidding of course) I think the "dark" part of a lot of these Pokémon's thoughts might have to do with genuinely harming or ruining someone else's life somehow, something that can't be simply healed at the Pokémon Center, and of course all the "under-handed" stuff. I wonder if some of the "dark" could potentially be actually predatory to an extent, like Krookodile thinking "I'm not gonna just battle this guy. I'm going to kill and eat him," or the whole thug thing of "I'm gonna put this guy in a hospital."
*Sees hitler doing default fortnite dance with the paul brothers*
I feel like "Dark Pulse" or dark energy in general refers to how like in anime when someone thinks bad thought there's some kind of aura surrounding them and people around them can sense this "aura" and grew suspicious and uneasy, it kind of targets this sense you have when you feel like someone is up to no good and gets scared.
I think of it as making a violent threat with a glare in their eyes, either threatening them or their loved ones with pain. Something that makes you shudder at the thought
It's a bit more specific, but you're very close - Dark Pulse is seemingly a manifestation of killing intent, a particular type of evil ki that can freeze people with fear and which trained fighters can consciously emit as a weapon to incapacitate victims. It's popped up in a number of series like Rurouni Kenshin, Naruto and One Piece, but usually shows up in samurai manga nowadays.
I always saw Hone Claws as readying your weapon with malicious intent, hence the added bonus of accuracy. You're making sure to hit the opponent through what ever way possible. It works well with other dark movies since they often have secondary effects like criticals or flinching.
ever seen someone sharpening their knife/weapon IN FRONT OF YOU? with the explicit intent to harm you?
chances are, you will be creeped out by such action.
essentially like brandishing a gun in public.
therefore dark type
Given that Assurance is shown as a slap, I always took it to mean they pretended to give you an assuring pat on the back, but really just slapped you there.
The reason the power doubles is due to smacking the spot that was just hit as it aims for that. It's deadly for doubles if paired with a faster ally or one with priority moves to whittle away at the foe's HP to then strike it with a mighty blow.
I always saw it as the target getting spanked.
@@ScottE-2 Yeah, the name Double Tap would be better for this move I guess, even if it's abit misleading.
You wpuld show up here hawk moth!
Memento (Mori) means "remember about death", that's a reminder about what's inevitable. Pokemon dies reminding other it will some day too, marking it miserable.
…
Unus Annus?
Unnus Anus
@@llewtree3013 . Uranus
Pretty sure memento just means "to leave someone with something." In this case, a spa.atk and attack drop.
The move is still based around the theme of death, but not in that way. The opponent is just left with a memento from the dead (fainted) user. Just as a child would be left with an item from a deceased parent.
Not really...
A memento isn't specifically themed around death. It's just a reminder or keepsake about an event or person. Has nothing to do with death specifically, aside from how it's used as the move. But the name should reflect that. It's not just any Memento, it's a dark reminder, a dark memento.
And what is Mori? Is that the Japanese name? I'm not fluent in Japanese, but doesn't that mean Woods, or Forest? Someone please correct me on those last two statements, cause I'm not 100% sure on either of them
Fun fact: Taunt is OP In Metronome Battles.
Imprison and Torment too. Imprison is a psychic type move so it will not effect dark type pokemons, sooo, but metronome can be learnt by few dark type pokemons like sableye and impidimp line and IDK what else, and metronome is a normal type move but ghost are only immune to the normal and fighting type moves came from metronome, which means dark type pokemon are immune to imprison? but as odeur slueth(?) and the other move makes ghost type pokemon to be hit by normal and fighting and normal type moves, I should stop now, Bye.
@@vinaythakur4742 I'm pretty sure dark pokemon are not immune to imprison, as the game considers the target of the move as the user and such moves ignore type effectiveness.
Vinay Thakur good though but imprision would work on dark types as oder sleuth (a normal type move) would also work on a ghost type before being sleuthed
%)&$ that move
Headcannon: Night Daze acts like a blinding spell in DnD
Also the "it's difficult to see because you have x in your eyes" trope is my favorite thing in these series.
Absolutely adore it.
Mine too
You mean like the spell darkness
Deeper darkness
Night daze is famously used by momma zoroark in the zoroark movie
That’s your reference.
TLDR: This is just the “dude wtf” type
Or “Ow the edge” and “Intimidation”
Barraskewda learning a move called "Hell Thrust" makes perfect sense. It reminds me of an Arapaima, and as Jeremy Wade can personally tell you, those bastards hit really hard, to the point you can barely speak.
Well i mean if someone got full body-thrusted by arapaima i would amaze if he still alives
Dz73zxxx yeah. Those things can weigh well over 400 pounds.
@@Dz73zxxx People survive getting hit by cars, so, you know...
TheWanderingMist yeah but people hit by cars do so in land so even if they have their air knocked out they can usually breath. You get his hard underwater you risk drowning
I've always thought of Foul Play as "Stop hitting yourself" sort of thing
Actually, I disagree with your assessment of Quash: the dictionary defines it as "to reject or void, esp. by legal procedure."
Dude, legal procedure is some evil stuff :P
Me after buying a bread with money: IM EVIL
Yeah I'm dark type
D- Mean
A- Being a butt
R- Underhanded
K- Rude
Type
Hello Mbur type
Neil degrasse tyson: WATCH OUT WE GOT A DARK TYPE OVER HERE!!!
Oh I'm the R type
Obstagoon's signature move needs a bit more explanation. It's more so like, rudely blocking the path of the opponent and being a disruptive jerk. A feel like the sudden stop of an attack would be enough to jar an opponent and lower its stats.
i thought it would be more like a shove after it blocks your attack like a "so you think you're tough huh?" then you stumble backwards kind of shocked your attack didn't do anything
I like to think of it (in general) this way:
Ghost: supernatural evil
Dark: physical evil
Fairy: supernatural good
Fighting: physical good (?)
Psychic: supernatural neutral
Normal: physical neutral
I know this isn’t super consistent, but just in general
_Normal: supernatural_
???
Oops fixed it lol
Dragon: Chaotic Neutral
Ghost isnt too evil of a type as opposed to dark type being really a dick type. Ghost themselves don't represent supernatural demons but also spirits in general.
Some ghost types are sinister and evil but others are neutral at best. Imagine if you disturb someones corpse and the ghost itself will haunt you for wrong doings.
Dragon: supernatural neutral
When you covered Quash, I remembered reading something about the early days of MMA. According to the book, the grappling moves of Brazilian Ju-Jitsu where very controversial at the time, as the American audiences were used to the boxing rules of not attacking knocked down opponents.
My personal explanation for why bite is dark type: it’s rude to eat your opponent while it’s conscious. The user’s like “hmmm... do I WANT to eat them? Let me check if they taste good. *chomp.* hmm, needs more pepper.”
Really?
I thought it was because Mike Tyson is black
i have kind of a cop out explanation but...i just go with the energy theory. considering there are plenty of bite moves that are normal or some other type, i think all pokemon types are producing a certain type of energy that have been able to be classified or designated to that type of energy. i dont really like the explanation that because its dirty or rude to do something, that makes the move dark. it just raises more questions if thats how it works.
like imagine youre in your science class in the pokemon world and the book youre reading tells you bite is dark type cause its rude to eat something while its alive. it doesnt really explain the energy being produced or the lore n whatnot
Daniel Alexandre OOF
I loved having my zoroark use swagger a few times to raise the opponents attack and then using punishment to just rip apart whatever shadow of a dream they had.
It's fun.
-"Because you got the manifestation of darkness in your eyes"
Anyone else like that running gag?
I love it.
“Your life sux even more because you have x in your eyes”
@@TheHammerGuy94 yes
"Foul Play" doesn't that literally mean cheating though
It kinda is cheating, considering that it uses the foe's attack stat instead of your own.
The actual idea behind the move would be things like reversing a throw, leaving your leg extended slightly so that the opponent trips as they move in, holding out a claw or fist and letting them slam into it, ducking out of the way so they hit an obstacle behind you, etc. a lot of things that are *technically* not cheating, because it isn’t *your* fault they didn’t stop the attack before they got hurt, but is borderline cheating, like a lot of dark moves.
@@cintronproductions9430 yeah i think its supposed to be cowardly like not being strong by yourself and needing help
@@cintronproductions9430 It's cheating only by the mechanics of a video game. The real-life logic of a move that uses the opponent's own momentum and power against them is perfectly fair and honorable though. And that's kind of the whole point of these videos, Lockstin is trying to explain how these moves would realistically work.
Really? I thought it was more of a "stop hitting yourself" kinda deal...
7:01 "you got Darkness in your eyes"
who else gets an instant flash back to the Ground/Rock type videos?
*gets Vietnam flashbacks*
Here's some dark in your eyes
Pocket darkness!
And water
@Jack Dillon26 Now your life sucks a bit more
"and you can't see as well, because you have darkness in your eyes. And your life is a bit more miserable, because you have the manifestation of darkness in your eyes"
Deja vu
"it would never pass in real sports"
Shows wrestling image
"Blelolelolilolelo, you can't get me. SPANK~"
-Lockstin, June 2020
"You can't get me, *SPANK*"
*Dies laughing at a cheep joke*
The "something in your eyes" jokes crack me up evey time
So, in dnd terms:
Fairy= cleric
Dragon= wizard or sorcerer
Dark= warlock
Fairy would work even better for the druid subclass. I think wizard would be Psychic while sorcerer would be dragon because, as far as I know, wizards use more "refined" techniques.
@@vasvasilescu8597
Not to mention Draconic Bloodlie is a Sorcerer subclass, soooooo...
Can someone explain why the Druid is a Nature/Fae class in DnD, please? Based on how they work the only reason I can think of is that "Druid" sounds cooler than "Floramancer"
Ghost is...?
@@Druid-T it's because the class [name] is based on the real Celtic druids, which druid roughly translates to "tree knower" from Celtic, whom were Celtic "tree/nature shamans" for lack of better word.
I’d say there should be a Tasmanian devil Pokémon by now.
Edit: Looks like a lot of y’all agreed
Thats for the australian region when it comes
We literally need that
Would you thin it'd be Dark/Ground?
I always thought of quash as the Pokémon literally using its turn to hold another back so they can’t move, which is pretty underhanded
eevee “pretends” to be bad. not actually dark, but just pretending. yeah, i think it definitely shouldnt be dark type
Partner moves are just bullshit. That eevee has type coverage on par with arceus, and at this point, can do whatever.
Not to mention the name. Buzzy Buzz is no winner either but I think Baddy Bad takes the cake. BADDY BAD. Is ‘baddy’ even a real word?
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast are we the baddies?
The description for Baddy Bad doesn't say "pretend," it says "acts." Act doesn't just mean "to pretend," it also means "to do."
Inordinately pleased to see that Urshifu named "Skidoosh." I named mine Po.
Bear with me
Same
As did I.
Mine is Darma (becouse German cubfu is Daruma)
Afterwards I was like "wait..."
I NAMED MINE PO LOL!!
"Getting hit by a berry wouldn't hurt," then proceeds to get a pineapple flung at him. I was like "What!?!"
Watermelons are berries and that would hurt
Have you ever been beaned with a grape?
Durians would be pure evil
I think it was a reference to Pinap Berry being based on a pineapple haha
JJ_Eldridge imagine stepping on a durian
Most Dark types moves can be simplified with saying "Hey! You can't do that!" after its used. Being mean, a dirty move, foul play, unfair, cheating, etc.
Quash can be explained as holding someone down so they cant help their friend, who youre beating up.
Note: Snatch follows the category of thievery, as it is a sort of pickpocket. I like to imagine the user uses some sort of paranormal force to magically yoink status buffs, similar to the Arcane Trickster's Spell Thief feature in D&D. It's not a physical pickpocket, but a dark-magic theft, which steals the magic from the attack.
As you said earlier in the video, you'd be mad not to assume thievery is Dark-type.
The Dark Aura/Dark Pulse is also a depiction of the 'Killing Intent' trope in Anime/Manga.
yeah it's more like an evil psychic attack than a dark magic attack. It's literally weaponized negative thoughts.
It reminds me of Ainz Ooal Gown from "Overlord". He's always seen with a shadowy aura when on the offensive, which intimidates his enemies.
Some food for thought:
Given that darkness is simply the absence of light, certain Pokémon simply deflect rays of light from a designated location.
They aren’t actually manipulating darkness, they’re manipulating light.
So referse flash but better
Necrozma: did someone say... LIGHT!?!?
*GIMME!!!!*
*franticly writes down dark fairy type consept.*
You’re slipping.
Foul Play: Using the opponent’s strength against them. The opponent doesn’t have to attack to use the move, it’s not sucker punch, so the reasoning behind the method of attacking is different. Perhaps the user tricks the opponent into attacking itself, or utilises the opponent’s bulk to cause heavier damage (akin to low-kick in that regard) than if the user was attacking with its own strength
I know this is an old comment, but the way foul play is used in the anime perfectly represents this.
That sounds like judo, use your opponets momentum against them
@@user-gj3fb7pq1w I guess it could e cheating as the user is not using their own power it using the opponents. For example working on a group project and most of the team do the work but since you put your name on the paper you get the benefit from hard work
@@andrewharris1344 I wad thinking about this then it came to me, you see in streetfights anything goes so when a dirty fighter know his opponent have more strength then him he uses his own strength against him and make him hit a hard structure like the wall or the floor which is concrete
@@user-gj3fb7pq1w yeah that’s basically it also I guess some people in organized matches like Pokémon battles see it as dirty as your doing the bear minimum and even I real life or other fighting games some people would say that just countering and not attacking could be unfair even though it’s a valid strategy so dark type.
19:57 Grimmsnarl can also learn Darkest Lariat, and it looks hilarious
Hone Claws always makes me think of the bad guy, sharpening their knives as they threaten the hero. Quash seems more like a bully sitting on their victim, just to torment them.
I find it odd that Oblivion Wing is flying type but both the animation and the anime depict it as a beam of dark energy/aura
In french Foul Play is "Tricherie" which can be translated by "cheating", and cheating is bad.
Sounds like Treachery
Cocomunga Productions thats because it literally is! Lol Its analogous. “Cheating” is one translation, not the ONLY one. “Treachery” is obviously valid as well
Lockstin says “it hurts” in a sarcastic way
Edit: stop being sarcastic when saying "blank in you’re eyes"
Can we get a compilation of every "Because there's [Blank] in your eyes"? I dunno why, but I REALLY love that running gag.
For Hone Claws; I can see the idea behind it is that when you’re sharpening your claws or knife, you instinctively begin to imagine/yearn for the thrill of slicing something up. After all, what’s the point of sharpening something if you don’t get to use it?
Hence, dark thoughts, Dark Type.
Similarly, Quash could be seen as dark because you’re essentially holding back a combatant from helping their friend. You’re purposely allowing another to be injured or attacked and preventing aid for them - hence Dark.
I think Snatch makes sense, it’s just imbued with dark aura that it’s able to snatch non physical things
The thing is it doesn't steal the buffs, it literally steals the moves, is a common vallain trope in media for girls for example the protagonist gets the lead role in play only for the antagonist to injure them or use its conections to steal it
Basically if mimic, psych up, and sucker punch had a threesome.
@@jordy7625 Kinky?
The meaning of 'Dark' type makes me question 'Fairy' type.
Most mythological fairies are evil or cruel
True, I wish we had more trickster kinda Fairy type mons, instead of only cute and nothing else.
Grimmsnarl and Hatterene are perfect examples of wicked fae creatures/witches.
I think when naming that type they had the moden idea of fairies, things like Tinkerbell, in mind, since most of the Pokemon they were going to put into the fairy type were very cutesy. But by the time Generation 7 rolled around they found out that Fae are closer to Yokai than the modern "fairy"
I would love to see pokemon version of the red caps! (pixies who live in abandoned castle ruins, throw stones at bypassers until they die and than collor their hoods with the blood!)
@@anyathepanther7977 I think we got those with Grimsnarl/Granbull Fariy/Dark types
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Ghost/Fairy UB based on a Banshee
It's true that Crunch lowered Sp. Def. back in gen 3, when the move itself was special as well. When that got changed by the fysical/special split in gen 4, the move changed into lowering regular defense as well
Does the video start acting weird for anyone else around the Jaw Lock segment?
Yeah, I think the editor(s) accidentally put one of the segments in the wrong place on the timeline and threw off the rest of the video
@@acegamer9347 thing is I never had that issue before recently. It's odd
Just an example you used "How does it steal agility?" Come on Lockstin you talk about magic, but somehow there's no dark magic that allows you steal an effect by the opponent through the use of some kind of magical force. Like if "Agility" raises speed by sharpening it's muscles for example, why wouldn't a Pokemon be able to apply those type of changes TO itself through snatch.
"Hone Claws" I think the idea is so that the person can eviscerate its foes better, hence the sharpness and the accuracy. I think the idea is that the Pokemon has evil intentions of sharpening its claws, to be especially brutal. I don't think it's just doing it for just the stronger attack. But I can agree it being a normal type would be fine.
Quash- Come on now Lockstin you can't just argue this is just a strategy while being like "yeah these other moves are definitely cheating rude tactics" it's a strategy sure, but it's also not playing fair.
Baddy Bad- A move shouldn't exist because it has a stupid name? I guess. Sure.
"Have you ever gone down a dark alleyway at night and gotten shanked?"
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I have gotten shanked at morning outside of my house xdxd
yes
Could be worse if I was in a harem
@@edwardcoello9168 those yanderes are something else. Best stay away from them or stay on their good side.
Ask the poor citizens back then where jack the ripper reigns tho
"Call in the medium wizard!"
Honestly when i watched why do Pokémon have this type I’ve always imagined you doing this series and turns out you did
I always thought of torment as the Pokemon being like "oh wow, you're really gonna use that move again" So the opponent uses a different move for their pride
A few additions due to me knowing the german names because i'm german:
19:31 'Memento' is called 'Memento Mori' in german, which is a theme often used in medieval Poetry. It translates from latin as 'Be aware of your mortality' and fits in the theme of 'Vanitas' ('Everything is impermanent'), that everything will have to end eventualy. It's a pretty dark theme (in poetry), thereby fitting the Dark type.
23:24 'Foul Play' is called 'Schmarotzer' in german, which refers to a lifestyle, where you live on others like parasites. Only you benefit, your victim does not. So the hole 'take your opponents strenght'-thing and the Dark type fit very well.
So foul play is just being drunk? Thats seen as bad
Regarding snatch: I like to think of it as a type of mirror move with the added effected of manipulation to make the opponent forget what they were doing. Status moves require a bit of concentration to pull of so maybe the dark type pokemon quickly manipulates the opponent into not fully using the attack and the mimics it themselves.
Basically learning the strategies of the opponent and using them
2:11 that’s why it’s called assurance. The Pokémon is assuring the opponent is fainted/dead and ready to munch on.
it's almost easiest to sum up "dark type moves" as simply "anything lacking honour"
Pokemon: dark moves with fancy names.
Fire Emblem: Has dark spell called Death.
At least Death sounds more intimidating than Baddy Bad. XD
Should have called it Baddy Bad
Dragon City: Most powerful Dark attack is literally a black hole.
*Three Houses. Death only existed as a black magic spell before that game, because it's completely contradictory to most of what Fire Emblem says about dark magic, and it does not appear throughout the rest of the games where dark magic appears
@Pott Rott That sounds so much better. You know, Torture Zone doesn't sound that violent, they could have given it that name in English too, and before you say it's too violent, remember there's a move called Guillotine. XD
Quash is dark type because of its political definition:
“To void or reject via legal procedure”
But practical wise: it’s it’s questionable as a dark move...
Did something happen during the editing? The audio seems VERY desynchronized from the visuals. Is it happening for anyone else.
yeah how did this even happen because I’m sure it wasn’t like that originally
11:45 Can someone explain why Sanaki is lumped in with the others? It doesn't make any sense because she fights with magic and is on the protagonists' side.
I honestly don't get it either I guess the editor googled dark magic users and the musepell sanaki showed up and they thought the dark colours meant she is evil
I was about to ask the same thing
Like how some Dark Pokémon such as Umbreon and Absol wield the Dark Aura but are friends and cinnamon rolls?
Here are some elemental dark type moves:
Shade Strike: the user wreaths itself with shadow then attacks. Has a chance to flinch
Shadow Blast: the user summons the power of darkness and sends it to the target.
Night Beam: harnesses the power of night into a powerful beam attack
I made one called nebula which is a powerful surge of darkness
Seems more like Ghost type
"In my opinion, this move should not... exist." got me off guard
I feel some of the aspects of the "dark type" can be defined by other things. I think that "dark thoughts" that could make up the dark aura would extend beyond evil/dishonoring thoughts. Maybe another source of this aura could come from mental illnesses that consume them (like anxiety and depression). I think this might make up Absol's abilities. Even if it was given the dark type because it was mistaken as the "Bringer of Disasters", having the stress of constantly sensing nearby calamities and then people fear/shun it when it tries to warn them could defiantly lead it to having strong dark type powers.
Dark is basically what Normal should've been: no special power, just some dirty tricks. And the Fighting weakness would make a ton of sense.
I interpret Dark type energy moves as more akin to Fighting type energy moves, being a sort of "aura" or "fighting spirit energy", except corrupted.
I hadn't seen Wolfey's use of switcheroo before that, absolutely hilarous
I swear you're super overthinking some of these, and that's when the reasons aren't just going over your head.
Foul Play: It's Dark because the term foul play means "unfair play in a game or sport" or "unlawful or dishonest behavior, in particular violent crime resulting in another's death", or in simpler terms, cheating, bad deeds, etc. It's Dark because Foul Play is literally an evil/mean thing, and the actual mechanics of the move, turning one's stat buffs against them (trickery), still fit within this general bubble of what is considered Dark. How is this in the "I guess" category when the meaning of Dark as Evil and Mean was established at the beginning of the video?
Topsy-Turvy: Not only is messing with the opponent's stats more trickery, but you established earlier on that Dark as a form of energy can be treated like Magic the way Dragon and Fairy are. So why is using magic powered by negative energy to flip stat changes an "I guess"?
Snatch: "The user *STEALS* the effects...". Enough said. Don't worry about how exactly you steal ones stat changes, or in anime terms, how you steal Beedrill's Double Team clones (even though you established Dark Magic as a thing). What's important is that the move *STEALS* something, and the fact that it's stat-altering effects adds to the whole trickery thing.
Quash: You establish the whole "thugs pinning a guy down and beating him up" imagery multiple times, yet you don't get why Quash, the PINNING THE GUY DOWN part, is Dark type and jump to comparing it to military strategies?
And no, ALL of the Partner Eevee/Pikachu moves should just... NOT. They should just NOT like Let's Go as a whole.
Can we get a theory that addresses the marshadow and ho oh connection
Sorry, what?
and what's the connection?
What theory? Is just a movie thing because nostalgia an new pokemon I guess. An ancient hawaiian ghost of a soldier has nothing to do with japanese/chinese phoenix it was just a movie thing to promote the new pokemon
@@bananaforscale1283 Pokémon the movie: I Choose You. The main antagonist is a Marshadow that steals a rainbow wing from Ash. The rainbow wing is an item that's use to find Ho-oh.
Fun extra note about Throat Chop: most big cats kill by suffocating their prey by clamping down on the throat, so it makes sense that it was Incineroar’s signature move for a bit
Dark type moves: taunt, torment and parting shot
Target pokemon: *U WOT M8!?!?!?*
When the weavile uses snatch on the beedrill and steals the clones created by double team, the beedrill now wants to kill itself because not only does it lose the evasion boost, but the opponent gains it, so it attacks its clones in somewhat of an attempted suicide
I think it's more the Pokémon is snatching the effects of the status move before it sets in...though I suppose if all these status move effects are energy-based, that would be more of a phantasmal act.
@@MrAuthor3DS r/whoosh
“Have you ever gone into a dark alley way and got shanked”
Interesting way to appeal to your fan base Lockstin
Dark Pulse is my favorite dark-type move, especially 'cuz of it's animation in the anime with the black and purple circles formed into a beam.
“Thievery is bad”
Me playing persona 5 royal
*I can explain*
Yea you can explain me the story
Same I can explain
20:45
Nearly everything in Sekiro is you fighting _against_ samurai - you're a shinobi! The samurai in that game are almost all enemies portrayed as evil and corrupt.
Or maybe torment is more like "is that all you can do?"