Especially if you read the Arkhamverse wiki on Jason Todd it explains everything and all the events of what happens while you where playing Batman in Asylum, City, and Knight. Good riddance to The Joker for finally dying in Arkham City and finally sealed off in Batman’s memories when he tried to take control of Bruce’s mind under the fear toxin injected in. Good riddance to The Joker his fate was worse than than death he was burnt and shown his worst fear of being forgotten. At least Jason Todd lives because when Joker shot him he shot him in the chest not the head. So that’s how Jason Todd lived the same way Tim Drake lived when he was shot once by Scarecrow.
It's better to show restraint than just kill people indiscriminately, if you were to do any of the things batman did you would end up dead before even accomplishing anything
From the second Jason put off the mask, his voice is full of pain and you can hear him stutters and whimpers. Here you can see the role of the arkham knight was a shield to protect himself from all the pain too and not just to confuse Batman. When he put off the mask he is just Jason Todd. A Kid that was tortured. Not only from the Joker no.....from the entire World. His entire Life was a big fat F*ck you. This character is so deep and sad.
@@last-shinobi-of-the-oboro-clan The several reboots of DC and alternate storylines doesn't help with keeping a consistant origin story for Jason. But most of the fan favor the version of the movie "Under the Red Hood", the first one without alternate stories. Killed by joker, got brought back by Raz Al Ghul with the Lazarus Pit, turned crazy for a while, came back to Gothan under the Identity of "Red Hood" to proove to Batman that killing criminals is "The" solution, and to take his revenge on Joker.
I’ve heard a lot of people say that Jason was just being a baby. Not just like his character personality in Arkham Knight but overall like in the comics too. I think that if I was stuck with the joker for 2 years getting tortured And getting beat up and getting hit with his mind games I’d come out just as fucked up as Jason did.
Who the hell say something like that? Those are the people who think that if they were them in that same situation, they would handle it. But noooo, they would have be just like Jason was, in pure agony, fear, pain, hatress, etc. Its like when someone its watching a detective show and see a dead body and they think that seeing a dead body in real life would be nothing. But they are wrong, the fictional and the real life are two different things. Not because they think if they saw something on tv or read something in a comic they would be ok in real life. It doesnt work like that.
I never knew that audio file of Jason (as Arkham Knight) and Barbara existed. It's sweet. Also I noticed how when Jason takes off the Arkham Knight mask his voice completely changes. Not just because of the voice modulation of course but the tone and pitch of his voice is much higher and broken, less confident, more emotional. It's like his voice mimics a child disheartened by something their parent has done. Because that's really all that's happened to him.
The line "If only I had a camera when I swept Barbara off her feet" isn't a nod to what he did to Jason, it's a nod to The Killing Joke, where after shooting Barbara, he then used a camera to take pictures of her and put them into a slideshow in order to drive Commissioner Gordon insane.
I have nooo idea how they’re going to balance him tho. If he has guns then he can easily take out enemies without much skill or strategy. Why wouldn’t you choose him?
It was Jason's fault, though. In the bio, it said he tried going after Joker himself, despite Batman telling him no, because Jason was going to kill Joker. And look where it got him.
In Arkham Asylum, there was a hint. Before the Boss fight with Bane, the Joker says something like: "Maybe i give you Harley. I think you need a new SIDEKICK. "
fun fact: this line was actually about barbara. since when he shot barbara he had no idea she was batgirl, when batgirl disappeared off the streets, he assumed that she was dead.
@@SmoothSleek Batman will be the most unstoppable force cuz of his high iq and tech his brutal ness will be more than just a Coma it will be broken bones and a broken neck Batman would be more dangerous than red hood
The votes were tampered with if they weren't it would have let Jason live but some people who hated him made something like 8000 extra calls on randomized numbers to have him killed
If you read the comics prequel to this, you know just how far Joker went with torturing Jason. They don't show it, but it is implied at various times that he _aped him. Joker calls him "boy toy" and other terms of "affection". Harley Quinn is shown to be jealous of Jason. It's horrible when you think about it. Anyone saying Jason is just being whiny or some dumb shit like this clearly has no idea. It's worse than what Joker does to Tim Drake in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. At one point early on Jason is tied to a chair and villains are just pummeling him. He's tortured in other ways, daily, for over two years. He already thinks Batman has forgotten him, and Joker just pulls on that thread. I forget the name of the comic but you can find it online. Obviously a dark story. Don't expect any light moments.
@@Khushi-Shah It's true. In some universes, Jason went after Joker which got him kidnapped. If he didn't do that, then Joker wouldn't got his hands on him.
Is that what you think this is about?! That you let me die? I don't know what clouded your judgment worse. Your guilt or your antiquated sense of morality. Bruce, I forgive you... For not saving me. But why, why on God's earth is HE still alive?!
I know that it came from Under The Red Hood, but Jason cannot say that in the Arkhamverse since Joker died and it was Jason's fault for getting himself tortured.
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 He went after the Joker when Batman told him no. If he didn't go after Joker, then the Joker wouldn't have tormented him.
@@Samuel152 yeah but you gotta think about this logically. In the heat of the moment you got adrenaline pumping through your system like crazy. It takes a great deal of self control and even then its hard not to get caught up in it
@@bman296 It wasn't in the heat of the moment, though. Jason thought of going after the Joker, when Batman heard/knew it, he told Jason to stay away, and Jason still insisted on going after the clown. Jason knew what he was doing, until the Joker ambushed him.
"Jason, I can help you" In his eyes you're already too late Bruce, you have all the time in the world to find him and help him but then you chose to replace him. In his eyes, you're a traitor
You act like Batman didn't try to find him. Jason took off his tracker before leaving, so Batman couldn't find him and was at the mercy of the Joker. It's Jason's own fault that he was lost.
Tbh I feel like Batman could've gotten thru to Jason quickly if he just said "I love you son, I'm sorry I never told u that sooner".... any Robin would be shocked af hearing that.... just my opinion tho
@@grega3611 Jason took off his tracker, so Batman wouldn't find him and the Joker kept it hidden from him until it was too late. In some universes, Batman finds Jason dead and buried him.
you grow up watching Batman and all these hero’s and everything it’s fun and games until you grow up and find out the truths and the stories about the hero’s, and then you look at them wayyy differently than u did in the past.kinda like life.
I always get shivers whenever I see how scared Jason is once Batman has him pinned to the ground, and about to punch him. Poor guy. He is still just a scared little boy.
I mean Batman wasn't actually going to take a new Robin after Jason, but Tim basically forced him to accept him as Robin because he discovered that Batman was Bruce Wayne and he could tell that Jason's death really messed him up.
You would think with all the resources, superhero friends like superman, Green lantern, WW etc. And years of experience, Batman would've put in more effort in looking for Jason. Even if he "saw" him die in a video, batman should've done you know... DETECTIVE WORK
@@genesisspace5331 Why would anyone in their right mind believe video “evidence” from the Joker? Video evidence by itself isn’t enough even for some courts.
I played Arkham Knight over and over again and never knew about the Arkham Knight taped until now. I'm crying. As a hard-core Redhood fan and Jason fan I can't belive there's interactions between him and Barbra when she was kidnapped. This is all I've ever wanted 😭
"Jason, we can fix this" My man got tortured for two years, he probably doesn't see the sunlight all those damn times, saw his father figure betrayed him and left him for another one. I know that you're trying to fix things up, but he's already broken
Batman didn't leave Jason. Jason took off his tracker and went to hunt down the Joker, despite Batman telling him not to, and yet, surprise surprise, the Joker kidnapped and tormented Jason, and Batman couldn't find him. I wonder what could've prevented that?
"I don't know what clouds your judgement worse: Your guilt? Or your antiquated sense of morality? Bruce I forgive you for not saving me. By why - why on god's earth - is he still alive?!" - Jason Todd, Under the Red Hood
Tim: who’s he calling a baby?! Barbara: Not you. Barbara knows exactly who Joker was talking about. And she wasn’t happy with how Joker was talking about him.
Hold on, so in Batman Tellatale Alfred got captured and the villain was recording him and because of this Batman analyzed the footage and was able to pinpoint where Alfred was being kept. In Arkham Knight Batman stated that Joker sent him the footage, so couldn't batman do the same? He has to be equally capable and even if Robin was "killed" before joker sends him clips he should've at least try to still find him.
Different universes but real talk, Jason's identity as robin could've RUINED Bruce, even if he thought Jason was dead, he should tried to find his body.
We're Not Gonna Talk About How Bullshit It Is That He Was Kidnapped And Beaten For *TWO YEARS* And He Was Shot In The Chest But Somehow Is Still Alive?
Ok but the saddest part of this whole thing is that at 4:58 ... Jason's not wrong. Bruce has sacrificed his children time and time again for the mission, and let those who hurt them go unpunished. At least on pre52 it would be a hard decisiom for him, so he'd find a way to pick both. But now? in new 52? Bruce will and HAS let his children die for the mission, or chosen to hurt them for the mission. He let dick be killed to stop a bomb from launching, instead of finding a way around it. He beat him into submission to send him undercover at spyral. Ntm tim or damian, which is hinestly more dc just hating hating, but like, damian only gets patented when it serves their narrative, for the most part Jess allowed to do as he pleases so long as he follows Bruce's code, and it gives him a LOT of leeway to kinda be an asshole, them when he's REPEATEDLY TRAUNATIZED, he's basically given a hug, an "im so sorry" AND LEFT TO HANDLE IT ON HIS OWN! Jon's disappearance and aging, Alfred's death, GRAYSONS "death" (disappearance to spyral), damian gets almost no parental guidance or support because Batman Is Busy With "The Mission". Not to mention tim, who's largely being ignored rn outside of YJ, but has been stated to be slowly remembering his pre-52 life, and you know, fucking EVERYTHING he went through in the last days of Robin and the ENTIRETY of red robin, the fact that because of the new universe he's lost his best friends AGAIN by virtue of just not being that close with them, and is expected to be all buddy buddy with the rest of the family when he either already does, or soon WILL vividly remember being treated like shit after b "died" various murder attempts before and after said "death", and THE WHOLE "B HAVING STEPH HIRE AN ASSASIN TO KILL HIM" AND EVERYTHING ELSE THE WRITERS HAD GO DOWN BETWEEN HIM AND STEPH. Like jfc n52 and rebirth want us to believe he s back with steph??? Like???? Hun she sent an assasin after him cause a clinically insane Bruce told her to, if tim REMEMBERS that like theyre saying he's gonna, there's NO way he's back with her. (Don't get me wrong steph is a good character but her and tim should NEVER date jfc). And Bruce KNOWS tim is getting his memories back, and is Going Through It and just... let's him be? Doesn't ever talk abt it? Expects him to be fine with damian and steph and Jason? Just, I know I got mad off track, but Bruce *will always* put the mission before his kids these days, even if once upon a time, he wouldn't've. ((Anyway fvck modern batman interpretations I want my highly emotional genius-level intellect tired-dad Bruce back pls))
Hey buddy I'm a huge and die hard fan of Batman & I absolutely love Batman & Jason Todd The 2nd Robin plus these were some pretty cool Jason Todd easter eggs from the Arkham Series that I didn't know about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the awesome and outstanding Batman content :)
Jason genuinely wouldn't have died if the fandom had voted the other way and voted for him to live Imagine how differently everything would've ended up if the fandom had just let Batman be able to save Jason
I’ve been saying this since the redhead movie came out. But I believe we need a live action movie with Jensen Ackles plain red hood because he’s too much of an awesome character to be pushed aside.
I agree. Jensen ackles is such a good actor. Especially in the show supernatural. I really loved him when he was in the animated Batman under the red hood movie, and it would be cool if he was in live action.
I just love after you defeat Jason you hear all the goons on the radio talking about how there’s some “assassin” going around and that he’s even more dangerous than bats that’s a reference to red hood who is basically Batman but without the “no kill/no gun” rule
Kind of a shame that they cut down on using assets for that Barbara scene. In the original Joker had two goons with him that beat the hell out of Gordon while he took pictures of Barbara squirming on the floor.
That probably would’ve been too gruesome even for Arkham game standards Dont the games have a T rating? Having something like that would surely make it an M I know I would have a hard time watching
I rlly wish we got to see Jason's story told by Joker AFTER the reveal that is was Jason who was The Arkham Knight. It would've made the reveal alot more shocking and overall mindblowing. But instead we were basically told it was Jason throughout the game which killed the surprise by the time it got to that point. But I do like that the devs obviously had planned this entire series out and for AK, they sprinkled hints towards it throughout the games and story like this
A question that has been bothering me about this batgirl, why didn't she tackle the Joker when he was at her door, from what we saw she had a few seconds to run, plenty of time for her to attack, she's dealt with people with gun before so it shouldn't be hard for her.
It's just so weird. Jason Todd was so hated by the fans that they voted to kill him off since he was the worst Robin. Now we have Damian Wayne taking up that mantle, and Jason has become a beloved character.
I like to think that Joker in Arkham Knight is a visual manifestation of Batman’s thoughts not just a hallucination. If you look at it like that it puts Batman in a much darker light. There’s things that the Joker says that if you frame it as Batman’s inner thoughts it makes Batman a pretty terrible person.
The fact that Jason was orginally wanted to be killed of by the fans of the comics, makes me want a series of what his character was like before the two years with Joker.
Oh boy! It's time for my anxiety to level up super super high and my self stem get super super low for a fictional character that I have a huge respect. Cool video 💙💚💛💜👍👍💓💓💝💝💝🌟🌟🌟
Bats should have killed The Joker so long ago But why would he when it's the sidekicks getting all the pain Beaten with a crowbar and then blown up , shot and paralyzed , tortured and brainwashed to become a mini Joker That's no dirt off of Batman's cowl
The only thing that I have to complain about this version of Jason Todd is that his character arc ended too abruptly. The second we learn who he is and Bruce beats him, that’s when his story ends, and to me that was sloppy writing. Yeah, sure Jason comes back and free’s Bruce and they take down Crane together, but what should’ve happened after that is Jason stays around afterwards to reclaim his title as the main villain of the story. And since the game came back to Arkham, they could’ve added another hour or two of gameplay where Jason kidnaps Tim and Gordon and designs one final test for Bruce. One in which Bruce will be faced with the same choice he had when Jason was taken hostage and tortured. Either he saves Gordon, and be forever shunned by his family, or he saves Tim and lets Gordon die, and be known as the man who let Commissioner Gordon die. Either way, Jason will have succeeded in what he set out to do, break Batman and get his revenge. The story would still end with one final fight between Bruce and Jason, with Jason ending up in the GCPD lockup, but it would end with either Gordon dead or Tim dead, and that would be a true epic ending to the Arkham franchise.
Tbh. I wanted to punch the fucking daylights out of batman. Batman saying "Jokers, gotten to you." And saying "I know what it's like." No! You don't understand. Exactly what Jason said. "DON'T PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND!!" Batman. Jason has been stuck, beaten, tormented, physical, mentally, and psychology abused by the joker for 2 fucking goddammit years straight. And you couldn't find him. WHAT'S WORSE is Jason wants to kill Joker, but Batman wants to stop Jason from killing him. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!
@D Payne no he doesn't. Not his fault GCPD, Arkham Asylum, or hell Gotham justice system does not deal or have better means of keeping Joker locked up. Watch the Red Hood. Bats tells exactly why he does not kill Joker. See the bat who laughs to see how bad it would be for bats to start killing
Batman isn't obligated to kill criminals. He's not even supposed to stop them. Why do you think Gordon made an alliance with him? Because he got things done by the book, which was something the GCPD was incapable of doing because the entire city was corrupt to the core. People were dying left and right by gangsters and criminals, and the Police let that happen because they were bribed and paid by crime bosses like Black Mask and the Penguin. Batman put an end to that. The reason why he won't do it is because if he did that, it would break the alliance he made with Gordon. If you want to point fingers, point them at the GCPD, not Batman. Batman's job is to bring the criminal to the Police, that's it. It's the GCPD's fault for not executing the likes of Joker.
To all the people saying it's Jason's fault that he got himself kidnapped, what the hell did Bruce expect? Jason is known for his ability to act out violently/disobediently in the comics, and it's speculated that he's the reason a man "fell off" a building. Bruce had been Jason's father figure for long enough to know that he should add some sort of security measure to prevent him from going anywhere he shouldn't be, like a secret tracker which, guess what, Batman uses, like, ALL THE TIME. Hell, might as well lock his suit and gadgets away for a period of time and team up with Nightwing instead. I get that Jason had a choice to stay and not go through all that, but with a past like his, I understand that. I just don't understand Bruce not being a good enough father.
“Don’t let Joker win.”
“How’s Alfred?”
That’s sweet.
It made me tear up fr
And the "if anyone hurt her, his a deadman"
I love Jason
Poor Jason...in the Arkhamverse his fate was even worse than death
In every verse.
Especially if you read the Arkhamverse wiki on Jason Todd it explains everything and all the events of what happens while you where playing Batman in Asylum, City, and Knight. Good riddance to The Joker for finally dying in Arkham City and finally sealed off in Batman’s memories when he tried to take control of Bruce’s mind under the fear toxin injected in. Good riddance to The Joker his fate was worse than than death he was burnt and shown his worst fear of being forgotten. At least Jason Todd lives because when Joker shot him he shot him in the chest not the head. So that’s how Jason Todd lived the same way Tim Drake lived when he was shot once by Scarecrow.
@@TheEmpiresStrongest I'ma be honest joker is a monster but I still think he shouldn't of died
@@dontclickme3057 why?
@@AntdaGreat cuz he is secretly batman
6:07 "How's Alfred?🥺"
That bit made me choke up a bit because even though he had lost his faith in Bruce, he still loved Alfred
Alfred treated him better
He also said if anyone hurt Barbara they were a dead man.
Knows cause seriously this part make me cry 🥺😭
@@scottlloyd4022 yes ! Even if his extremely mad he wouldn't hurt her
Alfred is so important. ALFRED. 🥺
Honestly Jason saying if anyone hurts Barbara he'll kill them is honestly heartwarming
Yea he still has love for them, just Batman he wants to kill. Sad what Joker did to him
@@ZACKSTACK1204 Because Batman is a little bitch that's why
@@supercitygaming8238 SO TRUE
It's better to show restraint than just kill people indiscriminately, if you were to do any of the things batman did you would end up dead before even accomplishing anything
@@Going1outof10 Killing a single lunatic with too much power = killing “indiscriminately”
We deserved to see jason more on screen
Tim too my mans started to lose his importance ever since Damain was made.
@@HELLO_KORO facts I like Tim way more than damian
After his torture and deaths, why not get a story about Jason before his fun time with the Joker?
Titans?
@@jidzplayz5577 we only saw him in action for like 3 minutes or something
From the second Jason put off the mask, his voice is full of pain and you can hear him stutters and whimpers. Here you can see the role of the arkham knight was a shield to protect himself from all the pain too and not just to confuse Batman. When he put off the mask he is just Jason Todd. A Kid that was tortured. Not only from the Joker no.....from the entire World. His entire Life was a big fat F*ck you. This character is so deep and sad.
Damn
His screams is terrified me and depressing.
@Mad Marliy
That makes me wonder. Why did fan vote to kill Jason off?
@Rōnin
What? Really? No wonder now we have multiple endings for Jason.
@@last-shinobi-of-the-oboro-clan The several reboots of DC and alternate storylines doesn't help with keeping a consistant origin story for Jason. But most of the fan favor the version of the movie "Under the Red Hood", the first one without alternate stories.
Killed by joker, got brought back by Raz Al Ghul with the Lazarus Pit, turned crazy for a while, came back to Gothan under the Identity of "Red Hood" to proove to Batman that killing criminals is "The" solution, and to take his revenge on Joker.
I’ve heard a lot of people say that Jason was just being a baby. Not just like his character personality in Arkham Knight but overall like in the comics too. I think that if I was stuck with the joker for 2 years getting tortured And getting beat up and getting hit with his mind games I’d come out just as fucked up as Jason did.
Most people would be worst and some would just killed them selfs
Fr they don’t understand but put them same people in that same situation and they would do the same thing if not worse
You said so many wrong things in that paragraph
Those saying that never really experienced a near-death situation
Who the hell say something like that?
Those are the people who think that if they were them in that same situation, they would handle it. But noooo, they would have be just like Jason was, in pure agony, fear, pain, hatress, etc.
Its like when someone its watching a detective show and see a dead body and they think that seeing a dead body in real life would be nothing. But they are wrong, the fictional and the real life are two different things.
Not because they think if they saw something on tv or read something in a comic they would be ok in real life.
It doesnt work like that.
Its nice knowing that Jason still cares for Barbara and alfred
I never knew that audio file of Jason (as Arkham Knight) and Barbara existed. It's sweet.
Also I noticed how when Jason takes off the Arkham Knight mask his voice completely changes. Not just because of the voice modulation of course but the tone and pitch of his voice is much higher and broken, less confident, more emotional. It's like his voice mimics a child disheartened by something their parent has done. Because that's really all that's happened to him.
5:40 This line alone convinces me that we need a full blown Red Hood movie--or videogame, one or the other.
There already is a red hood movie
@@jaredteaches894 where
@@Decagone Batman: Under the Red Hood
@@jaredteaches894 live action
@@jaredteaches894 yeah I want a legit live action, like how they did with Joker.
The line "If only I had a camera when I swept Barbara off her feet" isn't a nod to what he did to Jason, it's a nod to The Killing Joke, where after shooting Barbara, he then used a camera to take pictures of her and put them into a slideshow in order to drive Commissioner Gordon insane.
@@ThatGuyChoco Hence why he says he should've. It's a reference to The Killing Joke, not to Jason.
@@ThatGuyChoco Yes, he did. You see it in a flashback.
@@gothamsmostwantedclownbitc7107 it's not about the flashback. It is an actual reference to the Killing Joke.
@@batch_2731 Yes. That's what I'm talking about.
You forgot about the part where he stripped her naked.
When Gotham knights come out red hood is the first character I’m playing with for sure.
1000000000000% agreed
I have nooo idea how they’re going to balance him tho. If he has guns then he can easily take out enemies without much skill or strategy. Why wouldn’t you choose him?
Lol same
@@ThatGuyChoco its not a bad thing if a game is delayed its actually good bc they can make the game better
@@jalengholson8595 like cyberpunk
Batman has a lot of nerve to say just a sorry to someone he left with his arch-enemy for a year of torture.
I believe it was a total of 2 years
What should he say exactly?
@@Going1outof10 I looked for you I missed I never stopped thinking you were alive I fucked up etc idk
It was Jason's fault, though. In the bio, it said he tried going after Joker himself, despite Batman telling him no, because Jason was going to kill Joker. And look where it got him.
@@Samuel152 true
In Arkham Asylum, there was a hint.
Before the Boss fight with Bane, the Joker says something like: "Maybe i give you Harley. I think you need a new SIDEKICK. "
Nightwing: Just a nightmare. Clown spider from the future isn't real, she can't hurt me.
fun fact: this line was actually about barbara. since when he shot barbara he had no idea she was batgirl, when batgirl disappeared off the streets, he assumed that she was dead.
Just curious,when looking at these flashbacks did anyone else wanna punch TF out of Joker,despite being a big fan of him?
Who doesn't want to punch Joker is the real question
@@blu_blur_0614 you make a fantastic point.
I hoped Thomas wayne batman would show up and kill the guy that killed his grandson
@@ayman6733 He did show up but killed Alfred in comics.
That’s why he’s such a great villain!
6:18 Even broken,battered,bruised,mentally and physically Jason still cares
He doesn't care about Batman tho.
That man left him to die
@@parkeredits8072 true. But he still cares about Barbara and Alfred
@@parkeredits8072 how did batman leave Jason to die?
@@parkeredits8072 Don't believe the ranting. Batman never stopped looking
@@parkeredits8072 he did, he saved him from scarecrow at the end
U can feel his pain in the audio
Dude. Literally every Robin and batman sidekick loves and misses Alfred no matter who they are lols.
The ending though ‘didn’t I kill you already?’ 😭😭😭😭
"Don't you see it? You are MY Robin."
- Joker says to Red Hood
Joker: Kills and ruins lives
Batman: I can't kill him, not him even for you Jason, Barbara and the rest of Gotham
The one time he killed joker he winds up trying to destroy the multi verse 😭❓
Nah man but like. Batman has TALKED COPS OUT OF KILLING JOKER. it's SO DUMB! BRUCE WHY TF ARE YOU LIKE THIS
Nightwing: Stand aside, B.
Bro Batman says if he kills Batman he will lose control and kill all the villains which Batman is a smartass a dumbass too
@@SmoothSleek Batman will be the most unstoppable force cuz of his high iq and tech his brutal ness will be more than just a Coma it will be broken bones and a broken neck Batman would be more dangerous than red hood
I still can’t believe the fans themselves voted for Jason to die in the comics
The votes were tampered with if they weren't it would have let Jason live but some people who hated him made something like 8000 extra calls on randomized numbers to have him killed
Do be fair, if they hadn't we wouldn't have one of the most Batman storylines ever.
@@gideonjones8088 very true, this storyline is what got me interested in comic books in the first place
A lot of people voted to kill him just to see if DC had the balls to actually do it.
it was rigged tho
If you read the comics prequel to this, you know just how far Joker went with torturing Jason. They don't show it, but it is implied at various times that he _aped him. Joker calls him "boy toy" and other terms of "affection". Harley Quinn is shown to be jealous of Jason. It's horrible when you think about it. Anyone saying Jason is just being whiny or some dumb shit like this clearly has no idea. It's worse than what Joker does to Tim Drake in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.
At one point early on Jason is tied to a chair and villains are just pummeling him. He's tortured in other ways, daily, for over two years. He already thinks Batman has forgotten him, and Joker just pulls on that thread.
I forget the name of the comic but you can find it online. Obviously a dark story. Don't expect any light moments.
I feel sorry for Jason, but it's his own fault for not listening to Batman and he went after Joker, trying to kill him.
@@Samuel152 Victim blaming ? That’s shit.
@@Khushi-Shah It's true. In some universes, Jason went after Joker which got him kidnapped. If he didn't do that, then Joker wouldn't got his hands on him.
Its implied in 3 jokers as well as it being hinted that the joker did it again to him during that comic.
Joker r*ped Jason ?? Omgg poor him I wish I could hug him and bring all the love he deserves 😭😭
I am Hella confused why Gotham doesn’t have a kill on site order on the joker
Fiction is fiction
Maybe bruce pulling some strings?
Literally does the death penalty not exist
@@banchan7546 not in New Jersey where Gotham is supposed to be geographically located in canon.
@@angeryfluuf6514 even so I’m surprised Gotham doesnt just beg flash or Superman to transport joker to Indiana or something where it’s legal
He cares for Barbara and alfred and it shows jesus joker made him hate batman
Batman made him
Hate Batman
@Zia z he really didnt lol joker falling in the chemicals was his own fault.
@@user-jq3uo9od8e no
@@larniieplayz6285 damn larniie chill
@@Aztromaniac it must of glitched or something
Is that what you think this is about?! That you let me die? I don't know what clouded your judgment worse. Your guilt or your antiquated sense of morality. Bruce, I forgive you... For not saving me. But why, why on God's earth is HE still alive?!
I know that it came from Under The Red Hood, but Jason cannot say that in the Arkhamverse since Joker died and it was Jason's fault for getting himself tortured.
@@Samuel152 I'm sorry, it was HIS FAULT for getting tortured? How the hell was that his fault
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 He went after the Joker when Batman told him no. If he didn't go after Joker, then the Joker wouldn't have tormented him.
@@Samuel152 yeah but you gotta think about this logically. In the heat of the moment you got adrenaline pumping through your system like crazy. It takes a great deal of self control and even then its hard not to get caught up in it
@@bman296 It wasn't in the heat of the moment, though. Jason thought of going after the Joker, when Batman heard/knew it, he told Jason to stay away, and Jason still insisted on going after the clown. Jason knew what he was doing, until the Joker ambushed him.
I just really, really, want to give Jason a big hug.
"Jason, I can help you"
In his eyes you're already too late Bruce, you have all the time in the world to find him and help him but then you chose to replace him. In his eyes, you're a traitor
You act like Batman didn't try to find him. Jason took off his tracker before leaving, so Batman couldn't find him and was at the mercy of the Joker. It's Jason's own fault that he was lost.
@@Samuel152 Jason doesn"t took off his tracker its joker who took off his tracker when jason reach the arkham asylum
Even at his worse he still asked about Alfred 😢
Tbh I feel like Batman could've gotten thru to Jason quickly if he just said "I love you son, I'm sorry I never told u that sooner".... any Robin would be shocked af hearing that.... just my opinion tho
YEA WE JUST WANT HIM TO BE A GOOD DAD
I understand him thinking Jason was dead but why wouldn’t he look for his body?
@@grega3611 he did for 2 years. He was also occupied with Gotham.
@@grega3611 Jason took off his tracker, so Batman wouldn't find him and the Joker kept it hidden from him until it was too late. In some universes, Batman finds Jason dead and buried him.
you grow up watching Batman and all these hero’s and everything it’s fun and games until you grow up and find out the truths and the stories about the hero’s, and then you look at them wayyy differently than u did in the past.kinda like life.
I always get shivers whenever I see how scared Jason is once Batman has him pinned to the ground, and about to punch him. Poor guy. He is still just a scared little boy.
I CAN FIX HIM
Batman should really take responsibility for happen when you bring KIDS to fight psychopaths!
Batman: But what if the kid wants to fight mafiosi and serial killers?
Deathstroke: And, um, other thijgs...
**Outsiders chase Deathstroke off-stage**
It's kind of sad to think that every robin is just a glorified Meatsheild and replaceable
@@ThatGuyChoco they’re gonna make Damian Robin but he needs to “find himself”
It is a bit sad but i think its cuz batman knows he needs a robin
I mean Batman wasn't actually going to take a new Robin after Jason, but Tim basically forced him to accept him as Robin because he discovered that Batman was Bruce Wayne and he could tell that Jason's death really messed him up.
Woah those audio tapes were really good. Jason Todd's actor was great
2 weeks later and this still pops in my head. Knocked it out the park Mr Todd.
That's not Joker talking, that's Batman's crazy ass imagining how things happened.
0:48 I love how batman just stood there and watched joker shoot Barbra
He hallucinates that part as like a flash back
Tf you want him to do nigga
@@wastedxlama54 ikr
You would think with all the resources, superhero friends like superman, Green lantern, WW etc. And years of experience, Batman would've put in more effort in looking for Jason. Even if he "saw" him die in a video, batman should've done you know... DETECTIVE WORK
Yeah, even if anything just to find his corpse and get closure.
He clearly shot him bruh it’s kinda convincing
Bro he was buried. Like in the ground buried
@@genesisspace5331 Why would anyone in their right mind believe video “evidence” from the Joker? Video evidence by itself isn’t enough even for some courts.
@@wildfire9280 what do you mean video evidence isn’t enough it’s showing real life
I played Arkham Knight over and over again and never knew about the Arkham Knight taped until now. I'm crying. As a hard-core Redhood fan and Jason fan I can't belive there's interactions between him and Barbra when she was kidnapped. This is all I've ever wanted 😭
we’ll now you know!
Joker only hitting Jason on the chest in one of those scenes was probably the nicest thing Jason got during his time
"look me in the eye and say that"
i fucking felt that dude
"Jason, we can fix this"
My man got tortured for two years, he probably doesn't see the sunlight all those damn times, saw his father figure betrayed him and left him for another one. I know that you're trying to fix things up, but he's already broken
Batman didn't leave Jason. Jason took off his tracker and went to hunt down the Joker, despite Batman telling him not to, and yet, surprise surprise, the Joker kidnapped and tormented Jason, and Batman couldn't find him. I wonder what could've prevented that?
I just now realized that Arkham’s Red Hood is Tory Baker.
Great work, Man! I love your content
Not fair I got good content too. But yeah his stuff great👍
"I don't know what clouds your judgement worse: Your guilt? Or your antiquated sense of morality? Bruce I forgive you for not saving me. By why - why on god's earth - is he still alive?!"
- Jason Todd, Under the Red Hood
That movie was peak 🔥🔥🔥
Tim: who’s he calling a baby?!
Barbara: Not you.
Barbara knows exactly who Joker was talking about. And she wasn’t happy with how Joker was talking about him.
Tod: I can fix it! After I return the favor beating Joker with a crowbar over and over hollow him out
Hold on, so in Batman Tellatale Alfred got captured and the villain was recording him and because of this Batman analyzed the footage and was able to pinpoint where Alfred was being kept. In Arkham Knight Batman stated that Joker sent him the footage, so couldn't batman do the same? He has to be equally capable and even if Robin was "killed" before joker sends him clips he should've at least try to still find him.
Telltale and the Arkhamverse are separate universes, so he doesn't have the same tech
Different universes but real talk, Jason's identity as robin could've RUINED Bruce, even if he thought Jason was dead, he should tried to find his body.
It's just crazy to think that such an awesome character was born from a death voted by fans.
Damn the DC universe is so dark
Both Marvel and DC is but The Joker is something Marvel hasn’t tried doing anything similar because of how dark he is
Arcade? But Arcade is kinda sad and pathetic.
This is why I hate batman, joker did all that shit and wouldn’t kill him or other bad guys. Just let’s them go so they can kill more
Watch what Bats says in Mask of the Red Hood. And it is not his fault that Arkham Asylum or police department could not keep him locked up
He's scared of becoming what he despises, and I can't relly blame him.
Tbf, remember how Batman Who Laughs became a thing. Joker finally made Bruce snap and kill him, and it only made things 100x worse for that universe
As Batman has explained "If I kill him, I cross the fine line between Justice and Vengeance"
@@midoriyaweed5508 Plenty of versions where once Bats starts killing he does not want to stop.
We're Not Gonna Talk About How Bullshit It Is That He Was Kidnapped And Beaten For *TWO YEARS* And He Was Shot In The Chest But Somehow Is Still Alive?
Yeah. I haven't played the game though, was it ever explained? I always assumed it was the lazarus pit like in the comics
He was still wearing his suit so it would have a bit of armour
How is it bullshit u clearly see he was wearing his armour when he was shot
In the comics, he's revived by Ras'al Ghul's Lazarus pits.
They were either going to go with the ra’s al ghoul route or it’s because robin got shot in the R
Jason voice actor sounds like the voice actor of Booker DeWitt from BioShock infinite
@@ThatGuyChoco he never voiced Batman in the Arkham games it was only Kevin Conroy and Roger Craig Smith
It is he voice acts alot of roles like pain from naruto and alot other i forgot his name tho
@@Seanmyers2000 he’s ezio and sonic
@@tahjanthony8826 kanji from persona 4 Sam from uncharted Norman from death stranding
@@genesisspace5331 yes and he is also Batman in Arkham origins I’m not gonna argue anymore a quick google search will prove I’m right
Jason: Look me in the eyes when you say that!
Ok but the saddest part of this whole thing is that at 4:58 ... Jason's not wrong. Bruce has sacrificed his children time and time again for the mission, and let those who hurt them go unpunished. At least on pre52 it would be a hard decisiom for him, so he'd find a way to pick both. But now? in new 52? Bruce will and HAS let his children die for the mission, or chosen to hurt them for the mission. He let dick be killed to stop a bomb from launching, instead of finding a way around it. He beat him into submission to send him undercover at spyral. Ntm tim or damian, which is hinestly more dc just hating hating, but like, damian only gets patented when it serves their narrative, for the most part Jess allowed to do as he pleases so long as he follows Bruce's code, and it gives him a LOT of leeway to kinda be an asshole, them when he's REPEATEDLY TRAUNATIZED, he's basically given a hug, an "im so sorry" AND LEFT TO HANDLE IT ON HIS OWN! Jon's disappearance and aging, Alfred's death, GRAYSONS "death" (disappearance to spyral), damian gets almost no parental guidance or support because Batman Is Busy With "The Mission".
Not to mention tim, who's largely being ignored rn outside of YJ, but has been stated to be slowly remembering his pre-52 life, and you know, fucking EVERYTHING he went through in the last days of Robin and the ENTIRETY of red robin, the fact that because of the new universe he's lost his best friends AGAIN by virtue of just not being that close with them, and is expected to be all buddy buddy with the rest of the family when he either already does, or soon WILL vividly remember being treated like shit after b "died" various murder attempts before and after said "death", and THE WHOLE "B HAVING STEPH HIRE AN ASSASIN TO KILL HIM" AND EVERYTHING ELSE THE WRITERS HAD GO DOWN BETWEEN HIM AND STEPH. Like jfc n52 and rebirth want us to believe he s back with steph??? Like???? Hun she sent an assasin after him cause a clinically insane Bruce told her to, if tim REMEMBERS that like theyre saying he's gonna, there's NO way he's back with her. (Don't get me wrong steph is a good character but her and tim should NEVER date jfc). And Bruce KNOWS tim is getting his memories back, and is Going Through It and just... let's him be? Doesn't ever talk abt it? Expects him to be fine with damian and steph and Jason?
Just, I know I got mad off track, but Bruce *will always* put the mission before his kids these days, even if once upon a time, he wouldn't've.
((Anyway fvck modern batman interpretations I want my highly emotional genius-level intellect tired-dad Bruce back pls))
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Jason genuinely wouldn't have died if the fandom had voted the other way and voted for him to live
Imagine how differently everything would've ended up if the fandom had just let Batman be able to save Jason
I’ve been saying this since the redhead movie came out. But I believe we need a live action movie with Jensen Ackles plain red hood because he’s too much of an awesome character to be pushed aside.
I agree. Jensen ackles is such a good actor. Especially in the show supernatural. I really loved him when he was in the animated Batman under the red hood movie, and it would be cool if he was in live action.
"The joker is just misunderstood"
3:32
Why is it just a lego stud floor
I just love after you defeat Jason you hear all the goons on the radio talking about how there’s some “assassin” going around and that he’s even more dangerous than bats that’s a reference to red hood who is basically Batman but without the “no kill/no gun” rule
That was Deathstroke.
All those fucking ridler trophies I had to get
I dont think batman really knows what happened between jason and the joker
My poor baby : JASON TODD
4:58 That moment is so damn cool
He probably has one of the most darkest fates in the DC universe
3:14 they just landed into a LEGO set.
That one dislike must've been a glitch 🤠
Kind of a shame that they cut down on using assets for that Barbara scene.
In the original Joker had two goons with him that beat the hell out of Gordon while he took pictures of Barbara squirming on the floor.
That probably would’ve been too gruesome even for Arkham game standards
Dont the games have a T rating? Having something like that would surely make it an M
I know I would have a hard time watching
@@yandwl4162 Arkham Knight is the only Rated M game in the series. Because of Jason Todd, Professor Pyg and Barbara's suicide hallucination.
Where do you find the audiophiles for him?
And batman refuses to kill joker
Your ThumbNailPic Fished Me In!
(I Thought This was Gonna Be an Animation Video, Not CGI CutScenes from TheArkhamGame Series!)
I like how they reshaped Jason to look somewhat like Batman. He’s always gone on about how he was the better Batman, or the hero Gotham deserved.
Poor Jason 😖😫 Literally breaks my heart … he went thru soooo much
I rlly wish we got to see Jason's story told by Joker AFTER the reveal that is was Jason who was The Arkham Knight. It would've made the reveal alot more shocking and overall mindblowing. But instead we were basically told it was Jason throughout the game which killed the surprise by the time it got to that point.
But I do like that the devs obviously had planned this entire series out and for AK, they sprinkled hints towards it throughout the games and story like this
The game was so dark I learned quickly that it was rated m for a different reason
What reason? Feel free to spoil me
@@monsieurLDN ... Because it was do dark lol
Jason's right about Bruce though...
A question that has been bothering me about this batgirl, why didn't she tackle the Joker when he was at her door, from what we saw she had a few seconds to run, plenty of time for her to attack, she's dealt with people with gun before so it shouldn't be hard for her.
“How’s Alfred” God I hope he was genuinely curious
Why do people think I'm so bad I just wanted an heir
It's just so weird. Jason Todd was so hated by the fans that they voted to kill him off since he was the worst Robin. Now we have Damian Wayne taking up that mantle, and Jason has become a beloved character.
I like to think that Joker in Arkham Knight is a visual manifestation of Batman’s thoughts not just a hallucination. If you look at it like that it puts Batman in a much darker light. There’s things that the Joker says that if you frame it as Batman’s inner thoughts it makes Batman a pretty terrible person.
1:40 I think it’s a really clever touch that they made Batman clench his fists while Joker talks about Jason
The fact that Jason was orginally wanted to be killed of by the fans of the comics, makes me want a series of what his character was like before the two years with Joker.
We need a red hood game ngl.
Oh boy! It's time for my anxiety to level up super super high and my self stem get super super low for a fictional character that I have a huge respect.
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3:14 lego batman or something, idk i have never played it
Bats should have killed The Joker so long ago
But why would he when it's the sidekicks getting all the pain
Beaten with a crowbar and then blown up , shot and paralyzed , tortured and brainwashed to become a mini Joker
That's no dirt off of Batman's cowl
The only thing that I have to complain about this version of Jason Todd is that his character arc ended too abruptly. The second we learn who he is and Bruce beats him, that’s when his story ends, and to me that was sloppy writing. Yeah, sure Jason comes back and free’s Bruce and they take down Crane together, but what should’ve happened after that is Jason stays around afterwards to reclaim his title as the main villain of the story. And since the game came back to Arkham, they could’ve added another hour or two of gameplay where Jason kidnaps Tim and Gordon and designs one final test for Bruce. One in which Bruce will be faced with the same choice he had when Jason was taken hostage and tortured. Either he saves Gordon, and be forever shunned by his family, or he saves Tim and lets Gordon die, and be known as the man who let Commissioner Gordon die. Either way, Jason will have succeeded in what he set out to do, break Batman and get his revenge. The story would still end with one final fight between Bruce and Jason, with Jason ending up in the GCPD lockup, but it would end with either Gordon dead or Tim dead, and that would be a true epic ending to the Arkham franchise.
The audio logs are honestly kinda depressing cause it shows he truly doesn't want to kill Bruce
1:02 joker kills someone
Someone is dying
Batman: 😐
Clickbait title picture. Thought this was gonna be from an animated movie
Tbh. I wanted to punch the fucking daylights out of batman. Batman saying "Jokers, gotten to you." And saying "I know what it's like." No! You don't understand. Exactly what Jason said. "DON'T PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND!!"
Batman. Jason has been stuck, beaten, tormented, physical, mentally, and psychology abused by the joker for 2 fucking goddammit years straight. And you couldn't find him. WHAT'S WORSE is Jason wants to kill Joker, but Batman wants to stop Jason from killing him. ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!
"Put your hands to- *VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV* "
Batman is one of the worse superheroes out there. He’s more of the cause for more deaths than the joker because he continues to allow it to happen
@D Payne no he doesn't. Not his fault GCPD, Arkham Asylum, or hell Gotham justice system does not deal or have better means of keeping Joker locked up. Watch the Red Hood. Bats tells exactly why he does not kill Joker. See the bat who laughs to see how bad it would be for bats to start killing
Batman isn't obligated to kill criminals. He's not even supposed to stop them. Why do you think Gordon made an alliance with him?
Because he got things done by the book, which was something the GCPD was incapable of doing because the entire city was corrupt to the core. People were dying left and right by gangsters and criminals, and the Police let that happen because they were bribed and paid by crime bosses like Black Mask and the Penguin. Batman put an end to that.
The reason why he won't do it is because if he did that, it would break the alliance he made with Gordon. If you want to point fingers, point them at the GCPD, not Batman. Batman's job is to bring the criminal to the Police, that's it.
It's the GCPD's fault for not executing the likes of Joker.
3:05 your not what he made you ! Your what I made you
Your worlds greatest detective
I’ve literally never been into this. Watched none, played none, read none, but now I’ve fell down this rabbit hole with no context.
That’s alright the first step I would say in play Batman Arkham Asylum then if you like it play the rest of the games then watch some movies etc...
@@dibbage Thanks, I’ll be sure to get on that
In the meantime, shame on David Zaslav and Warner Brothers Discovery for cancelling Batgirl before it was even released.
To all the people saying it's Jason's fault that he got himself kidnapped, what the hell did Bruce expect? Jason is known for his ability to act out violently/disobediently in the comics, and it's speculated that he's the reason a man "fell off" a building. Bruce had been Jason's father figure for long enough to know that he should add some sort of security measure to prevent him from going anywhere he shouldn't be, like a secret tracker which, guess what, Batman uses, like, ALL THE TIME. Hell, might as well lock his suit and gadgets away for a period of time and team up with Nightwing instead. I get that Jason had a choice to stay and not go through all that, but with a past like his, I understand that. I just don't understand Bruce not being a good enough father.