If social contagion has happened with tourette syndrome on tik tok, (where a lot of young girls through they had it, were tested and if fact didn't have tourette's), why can't this also be the case with adhd and asd?
@@Matty272 wel if you have a lump in your body and all symptoms according to the internet align with cancer then i guess you dont have to go to the doctor anymore as its not free. If you really want help than you can get it im not American but i do have both adhd and autism and the whole nd and nt movement is horrible and because everyone on tiktok is self diagnosing and making videos where they make fun of nt people the stigma only gets bigger.
That's awesome. I doubt any reasonable person would have a problem with you suspecting you might have an issue and then going to a professional for testing and/or confirmation after watching a tiktok.. It's when people that are not medical professionals diagnose themselves (or possibly others) based exclusively off of tiktok videos.
1:22 I think what bothers me most about girls doing this sort of thirst trapping is how blatantly obvious it is. I usually make a point of avoiding or liking media that tries to manipulate me for money.
This is horribly misleading. There is no "test" for ADHD, or autism. They are subjective diagnoses that are often made without an appropriate developmental history or context for which impairment and functioning is taken into consideration. Anybody can go into a therapist's office and recite a checklist of symptoms for either and receive a diagnosis. There is an ideological movement on social media of individuals who diagnose themselves, and believe that only somebody else with the same diagnosis is qualified to diagnose them. This ideological movement is based in social justice culture and is anti-science. It is comprised primarily of younger Caucasian women, from the US, UK and to a lesser extent Australia - the three countries where critical social justice culture are most prominent.
Yuuuuuup. The new generation of Karen's who want to tell professionals how they are wrong and their google search and feelings outweighs the amount research, extra schooling, and extra training a professional have.
I would like to believe that a health care professional could easily see through someone "going to go therapist's office and recite a checklist of symptoms" when they in fact do not present those symptoms.
Very true. I'm in the UK, I was diagnosed with ADHD-C last year after a lifetime of struggle and wondering what was wrong with me, age 35. In the year+ since, around half my friends (AFAB) think they have it too, and none bar one of them are seeking professional diagnosis. One of them is very young (21) and has described "stimming" that is straight off a TikTok video. I've never used TikTok and never will, I hate it for what it's doing to kids.
@@Madeinargentina92imes people really start to over-identify with those symptoms though or believe they have it so strongly that they would probably sound very convincing. They may take a normal presentation of behaviors (like _occasional_ forgetfulness) and magnify it. This can make diagnosis very difficult, and it’s partly why most assessments include questions specifically designed to try and capture deceptive responses. Those questions don’t really help to correct for misrepresented degree/frequency of symptoms though. What’s unfortunate is that many people getting tested for ADHD receive relatively brief evaluations (sometimes just 20 mins with a psychiatrist).
Self diagnosing is only valid to people in the woke community or influencers on social media who want to make a living from coaching others on how to malign
MrBibi86 Maybe you should be diagnosed, since you have missed the key in this video ...... Most general practitioners (your regular doctor) unless they themselves have these conditions DON'T recognize the symptoms in their patients! And then those patients HAVE to self diagnose to figure it out for themselves because they cant give themselves a referral to a psychologist... their GP has to do that. This condition affects EVERY part of a persons life. Work,school, relationships, day to day functioning..... Do you think they should just suffer with ignorant doctors misdiagnosing & mislabeling them for years, decades even ?!?!
+ YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR BODY & MIND THAN YOUR DOCTOR COULD EVER KNOW!! IT'S YOUR BODY & YOUR LIFE, SO IT HAS TO BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK FOR ANSWERS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR DOCTOR HAS NONE.
Those is us diagnosed by pros years ago, and do not find it a fun unicorn candy train AT ALL, don't really like or respect these.... What do you call people that think diagnosing THEMSELVES with medical conditions and then "perform" a disability? WHY th would these... people... Even WANT to? 😖 It doesn't make ANY SENSE! You CANNOT SELF DIAGNOSE A MEDICAL CONDITION IF YOU ARE NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT!!! This is BASIC common sense? What is WRONG with these people? 🤬
Honestly sometimes all of you require is some self-discipline and organization that takes time to build. I said because it takes hard work doing it and you have to acknowledge it and write it down and make a commitment to changing use your hyper Focus to make these changes
I would love to know what the family lives are actually like, Most evidence supports ADHD being environmental and autism is genetic. Self diagnosis is so dangerous and people need therapy not being told they have issues
maby people if we dont like self diagnosis. idk like make a psychiactric assesment affordable. and maby realize that the dsm5 is supper outdated and only based on 12 or younger boys.
I think a lot of these people would be ok if they put their phones down for a week and got out of the house more. People with real adhd tend to have chronic drug use disorders and are very hard to be around. Constantly interrupting people, lack self awareness and can’t hold a job. If you sit in watching short tik tok videos all day and not leaving the house then you are going to get some of the symptoms regardless of whether you have it or not.
considering the first 25 years of my life were spent with a severe (in my case) neurological impairment, yeah i’ll gladly take pills the rest of my life to regularly feed myself, brush my teeth, remember important info and show up as the reliable adult my loved ones need me to be. do you have a similar issue with diabetics who need insulin (a manufactured drug) everyday to live as well or…?
@@veri.contrarythat clearly was not directed at you. It's directed at the legions of "I'm a bit forgetful so I have ADHD" people who self diagnose then get a doc to confirm, neglecting confirmation bias.
Womp is unapologetically correct, most doctors won’t even discuss autism or ADHD because every teenage girl thinks they’re a doctor. You cannot "self diagnose" yourself with a complex neurological disorder, and frankly if you WANT to cling onto the hope after you clearly cannot get a doctors note, there is something much more wrong with your head. Maybe it’s all those fatherless children raised by their moms??
Employment is a privilege, jobs are given, or made. "Get a job" Been there, done that, they don't want me. So I write, I'm published author, I'm a featured artist, I have no $. All facts to understand details entwined. I create my reality, as you yours.
@@nicnic1190"THEY DONT WANT ME"!?!? Are you hearing yourself? You’ve convinced yourself that you don’t NEED to extend yourself or learn anything meaningful in your life, and then become SHOCKED when your job and life prospects amount to sitting on a couch on your phone, eating cheap processed food, just like the woman in this video. This is YOUR responsibility as an adult, and you cannot blame ANYONE ELSE for not getting a JOB. I work with STUDENTS who juggle school and studying 5-6 days a week, ON TOP OF a part time job, getting a drivers license, and maintaining themselves. There is NO EXCUSE!
If you have a child thats easily distracted, teach them to finish what they start. With the right training people who are born woth what today is called ADHD can do is multiplied by how they are trained to use their memory. So train kids to play memory enhancing games. Get them to finish the tasks they are set. Read books and what they start, they must finish. Learn more than one language and other physical skills and sports, all help to make the brain more efficient.
As a clinically Undiagnosed person, I say this: Born in 1990 I was. Job to job to job again... "Burnout cycle" Living in adrenaline for years, fawn, freeze,flight,fight... Being anxious and depressed because everything seems easier for the majority of people around me, school-age to adolescent to now, asking for help, getting help that didn't help because I struggle "translating my brain to others" .. Looking for ways to self help from living in my car I had faith.... spirituality and quantum study. Asking who am I? Why am I here? Sorting through contradictory information on Google about anything you can think of, scholarly or not. What I have discovered is that with enough hours of dedication, "certification" is only a word of prestige. I follow what resonates, ive learned what I need to understand myself, and I don't need to justify it to anyone. Acceptance is acceptance, ignorance is ignorance. Expectations I'm not here to fill your of me, that is my free will.
I been autistic 24 years. These people make me sad, when do I get a tv show?
Anyone trying to legitimately get a diagnosis faces even MORE pushback now because being labeled as fad chasing.
My diagnosis is not a costume.
If social contagion has happened with tourette syndrome on tik tok, (where a lot of young girls through they had it, were tested and if fact didn't have tourette's), why can't this also be the case with adhd and asd?
Always get a doctor to confirm diagnosis.
Ah yes, those free easy to access doctors.
@@Matty272 wel if you have a lump in your body and all symptoms according to the internet align with cancer then i guess you dont have to go to the doctor anymore as its not free. If you really want help than you can get it im not American but i do have both adhd and autism and the whole nd and nt movement is horrible and because everyone on tiktok is self diagnosing and making videos where they make fun of nt people the stigma only gets bigger.
Some people can’t afford it.
what about misdiagnisis? or the doctor being sexist?
@@gachaheart2.0 It's free
Um, I got three separate psychiatrist assessments and I was diagnosed... After seeing the symptoms on tik tok..
Sometimes psychiatrist questions are so vague too. So having a visual of the small things like people showing symptoms helps.
That's awesome. I doubt any reasonable person would have a problem with you suspecting you might have an issue and then going to a professional for testing and/or confirmation after watching a tiktok.. It's when people that are not medical professionals diagnose themselves (or possibly others) based exclusively off of tiktok videos.
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1:22 I think what bothers me most about girls doing this sort of thirst trapping is how blatantly obvious it is. I usually make a point of avoiding or liking media that tries to manipulate me for money.
This is horribly misleading. There is no "test" for ADHD, or autism. They are subjective diagnoses that are often made without an appropriate developmental history or context for which impairment and functioning is taken into consideration. Anybody can go into a therapist's office and recite a checklist of symptoms for either and receive a diagnosis. There is an ideological movement on social media of individuals who diagnose themselves, and believe that only somebody else with the same diagnosis is qualified to diagnose them. This ideological movement is based in social justice culture and is anti-science. It is comprised primarily of younger Caucasian women, from the US, UK and to a lesser extent Australia - the three countries where critical social justice culture are most prominent.
Well said! You’ve put into words what I’ve been feeling!
Yuuuuuup. The new generation of Karen's who want to tell professionals how they are wrong and their google search and feelings outweighs the amount research, extra schooling, and extra training a professional have.
I would like to believe that a health care professional could easily see through someone "going to go therapist's office and recite a checklist of symptoms" when they in fact do not present those symptoms.
Very true. I'm in the UK, I was diagnosed with ADHD-C last year after a lifetime of struggle and wondering what was wrong with me, age 35. In the year+ since, around half my friends (AFAB) think they have it too, and none bar one of them are seeking professional diagnosis. One of them is very young (21) and has described "stimming" that is straight off a TikTok video. I've never used TikTok and never will, I hate it for what it's doing to kids.
@@Madeinargentina92imes people really start to over-identify with those symptoms though or believe they have it so strongly that they would probably sound very convincing. They may take a normal presentation of behaviors (like _occasional_ forgetfulness) and magnify it. This can make diagnosis very difficult, and it’s partly why most assessments include questions specifically designed to try and capture deceptive responses. Those questions don’t really help to correct for misrepresented degree/frequency of symptoms though.
What’s unfortunate is that many people getting tested for ADHD receive relatively brief evaluations (sometimes just 20 mins with a psychiatrist).
in the 90's everyone got a trophy, in the 10's + 20's everyone gets a diagnosis.
Hahahaha yup
Self diagnosing is only valid to people in the woke community or influencers on social media who want to make a living from coaching others on how to malign
Weaponized incompetence “oop sorry I ruined your life I has autism uwu”
@ThomasWake-k9j The only thing you ruined was your father's hole when you were born
*People who self-diagnose annoy me. doctors or psychs won't give the diagnosis so they self-diagnose*
I self diagnosed off tiktok and just had three separate psych assessments.. I was correct. Had no idea until tiktok.
@@gabrielleshaw4865 100% same here
So you just explain the very reason why so many self diagnose to begin with. There is still far too much bias in the medical community.
MrBibi86
Maybe you should be diagnosed, since you have missed the key in this video ...... Most general practitioners (your regular doctor) unless they themselves have these conditions DON'T recognize the symptoms in their patients! And then those patients HAVE to self diagnose to figure it out for themselves because they cant give themselves a referral to a psychologist... their GP has to do that. This condition affects EVERY part of a persons life. Work,school, relationships, day to day functioning..... Do you think they should just suffer with ignorant doctors misdiagnosing & mislabeling them for years, decades even ?!?!
+ YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR BODY & MIND THAN YOUR DOCTOR COULD EVER KNOW!! IT'S YOUR BODY & YOUR LIFE, SO IT HAS TO BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK FOR ANSWERS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR DOCTOR HAS NONE.
Those is us diagnosed by pros years ago, and do not find it a fun unicorn candy train AT ALL, don't really like or respect these.... What do you call people that think diagnosing THEMSELVES with medical conditions and then "perform" a disability? WHY th would these... people... Even WANT to? 😖 It doesn't make ANY SENSE! You CANNOT SELF DIAGNOSE A MEDICAL CONDITION IF YOU ARE NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT!!! This is BASIC common sense? What is WRONG with these people? 🤬
Honestly sometimes all of you require is some self-discipline and organization that takes time to build. I said because it takes hard work doing it and you have to acknowledge it and write it down and make a commitment to changing use your hyper Focus to make these changes
I would love to know what the family lives are actually like, Most evidence supports ADHD being environmental and autism is genetic. Self diagnosis is so dangerous and people need therapy not being told they have issues
maby people if we dont like self diagnosis. idk like make a psychiactric assesment affordable.
and maby realize that the dsm5 is supper outdated and only based on 12 or younger boys.
Fr. I paid $4000 CAD out of pocket for my child's diagnosis. That's what it costs.
I think a lot of these people would be ok if they put their phones down for a week and got out of the house more. People with real adhd tend to have chronic drug use disorders and are very hard to be around. Constantly interrupting people, lack self awareness and can’t hold a job. If you sit in watching short tik tok videos all day and not leaving the house then you are going to get some of the symptoms regardless of whether you have it or not.
stop being ableist, people with “real adhd” do not do drugs all the time and are great people to be around, stop spreading misinformation
So they have a diagnosis and now take pills for the rest of their lives, I’m sure that’s great for them
What's your diagnosis?
@@JesgateOnDown Being based.
considering the first 25 years of my life were spent with a severe (in my case) neurological impairment, yeah i’ll gladly take pills the rest of my life to regularly feed myself, brush my teeth, remember important info and show up as the reliable adult my loved ones need me to be.
do you have a similar issue with diabetics who need insulin (a manufactured drug) everyday to live as well or…?
@@veri.contrarythat clearly was not directed at you. It's directed at the legions of "I'm a bit forgetful so I have ADHD" people who self diagnose then get a doc to confirm, neglecting confirmation bias.
Womp is unapologetically correct, most doctors won’t even discuss autism or ADHD because every teenage girl thinks they’re a doctor. You cannot "self diagnose" yourself with a complex neurological disorder, and frankly if you WANT to cling onto the hope after you clearly cannot get a doctors note, there is something much more wrong with your head. Maybe it’s all those fatherless children raised by their moms??
Get a job
Employment is a privilege, jobs are given, or made.
"Get a job" Been there, done that, they don't want me.
So I write, I'm published author, I'm a featured artist, I have no $. All facts to understand details entwined.
I create my reality, as you yours.
@@nicnic1190"THEY DONT WANT ME"!?!? Are you hearing yourself? You’ve convinced yourself that you don’t NEED to extend yourself or learn anything meaningful in your life, and then become SHOCKED when your job and life prospects amount to sitting on a couch on your phone, eating cheap processed food, just like the woman in this video. This is YOUR responsibility as an adult, and you cannot blame ANYONE ELSE for not getting a JOB. I work with STUDENTS who juggle school and studying 5-6 days a week, ON TOP OF a part time job, getting a drivers license, and maintaining themselves. There is NO EXCUSE!
If you have a child thats easily distracted, teach them to finish what they start. With the right training people who are born woth what today is called ADHD can do is multiplied by how they are trained to use their memory.
So train kids to play memory enhancing games. Get them to finish the tasks they are set. Read books and what they start, they must finish. Learn more than one language and other physical skills and sports, all help to make the brain more efficient.
Yeah but it's not gonna cute the brain. What are you gonna do when the turn into teenagers and move out? They still have adhd
As a clinically Undiagnosed person, I say this:
Born in 1990 I was.
Job to job to job again...
"Burnout cycle"
Living in adrenaline for years, fawn, freeze,flight,fight...
Being anxious and depressed because everything seems easier for the majority of people around me, school-age to adolescent to now, asking for help, getting help that didn't help because I struggle "translating my brain to others" ..
Looking for ways to self help from living in my car I had faith.... spirituality and quantum study.
Asking who am I? Why am I here?
Sorting through contradictory information on Google about anything you can think of, scholarly or not.
What I have discovered is that with enough hours of dedication, "certification" is only a word of prestige.
I follow what resonates, ive learned what I need to understand myself, and I don't need to justify it to anyone.
Acceptance is acceptance, ignorance is ignorance. Expectations I'm not here to fill your of me, that is my free will.
that didnt help me at all. like not even in the slightest