Of course they did not fire a civil war via balance of power when Italy went Popular Front focus. And it's much easier to capitulate them rather than making a puppet of their own civil war.
Japan declaring on Yugo happens when you go Kaiser Germany. I think it's a bug based on the country IDs for Shanxi (which Japan gets a wargoal on) and Yug being mixed up. It's only ever happened to me on Imperial Germany runs. Edit: it’s actually because the events to put pressure on Yugo are being redirected to Japan (as the strongest fascist nation) now that Germany is non-fascist.
The weirdest part for me was before no step back dlc, japan always declared war to yugo circa 40 or 41. Yugo always joins the fucking Chinese United front out of all factions which really makes a mess in Europe trying to unite lmao
I think the actual answer is that it's something to do with Yugoslav events being coded to fallback to the most powerful Fascist country if Germany isn't fascist, and that's Japan
highly unlikely Japan was always the second strongest fascist nation in his playthroughs, who knows he could've been dealin with some really historically accurate(incompetent) fascist Italy.@@sevastopolveneto1568
Once again, Japan declares war on Yugoslavia. By this point I think that there's got to be something terribly wrong in the current build as it keeps happening.
This happens when you oppose Hitler. The Yugoslav event chain where you put pressure on, and eventually declare war on them as nazi germany apparently switches to the most powerful fascist nation left if germany isn't, which is Japan.
@@captain_hammer It doesn't seem too hard to fix. They should probably just code it to switch to european fascists only. It doesn't make sense for Japan to care.
@@Fusselikothere's a specific check for "most powerful nation with fascist as ruling party", it's used for things like the economic foreign support in the Estonian focus tree etc. Afaik there isn't any similar check that limits it to Europe though
@@vertexed5540 I don't really understand why this event chain is so vital in the first place. Just make it disappear along with fascist germany. Italy gets wargoals on yugo anyways, so what's the point?
That save was great and a good way to see how (on the AI's POV) it is important to get encirclements when going deep into enemy territory. You cannot let them have enough VP to survive and occupy territory, and have many weird templates... You hunkered down, on defensible terrain with most of your army intact, forced the enemy to stretch their supplies, and when the counter-attack moment came, split, encircle isolate and destroy. Bravo, truly a master of the craft!
The fact the world tension is so low in this clusterf*ck really goes to show how much the game relies on the historical German focuses to raise tension. I’m always desperately scraping for ways to raise tension as the Kaiser so I can declare war… with little luck.
Ah, i loved the bedtime stories my grandpa told me Back when germany first had a civil war in the 30s, then tried to invade France at the end of the 30s, got pushed back to berlin, invaded the netherlands, pushed to the maginot, sailed all the way to italy, and then won the war, somehow RIP grandpa
Yeah the greeks are really powerful against the Italians if Yugoslavia and Bulgaria don’t get involved, just like in real life before Germany overwhelmed Yugoslavia to open the door for Mussolini
This is impressive AF. I do not get into disasters like these (I quite way way before that), but I do get into situations where I defend, but cannot push or dunno how to win properly. Right now I have Trotsky in the USSR, killed some 6M attackers and lost about 300k of my soldiers, but only recently have I pushed a few tiles. Meanwhile, Italy is almost gone, like always. The fact I have no idea how to properly take over everything means I enjoy both your defensive and your offensive parts of the videos. The defending part is crazy though - like I am starting to think you can defend anything in this game.
I think one min max area Bittersteel misses out on is taking advantage of the production efficiency of things he doesn't like. I would keep a few mils on a high soft attack light tank, to basically serve as an spg, while I ramp up medium tank production.
You take flexible organization for the org loss reduction. Coordination is good if you stack it (signal companies etc.) to delete individual divisions out of battles, but to exploit large front attacks (like battle planning with motorized) flexible is pretty good.
Hey Steel, I love the video as always. I’ve become a lot better at this game since I found this channel. I have a suggestion. You should do a series that is the opposite of disaster save. You have competent players send in strong germanys, and then take over an ai USSR, UK, or USA, or vice versa. There is of course the issue that the AI will ruin their country, but nontheless putting the ai in a strong position could give an opportunity for more multiplayer focused tips.
As far as I understand mobile infantry is better. Blitzkrieg just adds more breakthrough to tanks, which you don't need as tanks already have good breakthrough. Mobile infantry allows you to put more tanks into you armored divisions and still have good org.
Mobile infantry is better if you push with normal divisions. If you do a multiplayer game where you basically only fight with tanks, it's better to go for blitzkrieg, but in single player and with mixed troops, mobile infantry is the best option. Especially if you use the most cost effective unit in the game for pushing: mech.
@@antonpsd4849 org is not that important in multiplayer. You need every bit of stats you can have, you rock with 35 org inf. When you are in a click battle, you reorg while retreating basically. In single player i get it, but in multi you just go full stats all the time.
The little entente guarantee circle sucks, they should just make an event fire if Austria Hungary reunites then have the circle, and for historical maybe just have France get an event if one of them are getting justified on until they do the buy time focus
as much as i love this i feel like there's no more point in watching it if you know he only posts disaster saves that actually get saved instead of something failing
I must say that's a very odd pet peeve to have ngl. Isn't the whole point of this to watch how he manages to beat impossible situations and odds? If he were to post random disasters in which he loses at the end, that would just be the equivalent of being blueballed. Very odd indeed XD.
Whether or not a save can be salvaged is mostly determined in the first 30 minutes of playing it. If he can set up a defensive line that can resist the enemy throwing itself at it, the enemy will bleed all their equipment and manpower faster than they'll ever recover it, while he'll just get stronger. So my guess is that if he does ever come across disasters he can't save the video would be about 2 minutes long.
I know you said you want this to be teaching, but my god I don't think I've ever heard you sounding so pissed-off when going over the absolute chaos at the start.
I have found a fairly interesting design for an infantry tank group that is manufacturing heavy but punches hard for minimal manpower. 3-light 1-heavy 3-infantry. Artillery support. - bare minimum. Used it as Manchukuo and it defends well, it attacks well it's just op
7 inf, 2 medium (with a lot of armour), 1 arty. Push, hold, whatever. But i tried a mech only run with Italy, where I made infantry for Port guards and just a bunch of 9 mech, 4 arty. You can squeeze 24 of those out of the same IC you'd need for 6-8 tanks, and they work just the same. I litterally took on the entirety of the world with only those, and if you keep up with artillery research and mech, they work until very late game.
Omg the futurama referances strike again! this is a way of editing by now i think xD also a bittersteel disaster save is always nice to watch before sleep 😁
Wow. This is first time seeing bitt3rsteel be... well, bitter. The initial pep talks on what not to do as alt history Germany (to be fair, all paths Germany) was such a "disappointed pops" mode that I felt legit nostalgia for that one homework I didn't do in middle school showing up on my report card in front of my Asian parents.
Yugoslavia doing the "Join the Tripartite Pact" foci and found the nearest fascist faction leader, in this case, Japan. Paul got booted by the Air Force, Yugoslavia quits the faction, and the faction leader got a wargoal on Yugoslavia. IRL, Germany declares on Yugoslavia because of the coup.
This is how hoi should be played difficult situation creating plans adapting your army and special units for plans organization of the navy and air force to complement and support each other that's why i like the disaster saves a bit more than normal cause it's not set a plan and go even at the peak of the enemies power that happens only when they are at their last toes and capitulating
No they escort convoys for trade (with the nation that owns the fleet ) and naval invasions launched by the nation which owns the fleet and they take all the fuel by travelling back and forth to escort each convoy assigned to anything which is why Bitt3rSteel was complaining about fuel. They didn’t escort the soviets but they didn’t attack them either because they aren’t programmed to do that on convoy escort. Convoy escort is good when you launch a naval invasion or really need resources from the sea because you can just put a part of the navy on it and make the rest hold the naval supremacy
I really want to play this game (i bought it on steam on sale) but good Lord it is too technical for my brain to process, i just enjoy watching vids on it
29:30. would it not be better to puppet all of the individual italian states in the off chance you can hold it so they can go down their economy paths?
France should be a core of the Holy Roman Empire. After all is was a part of it under Charlemagne. And it was Charlemagne who united (most of) Francia, becoming king of the Franks, *before* his conquest of Germania and becoming Holy Roman Emperor.
that's my save!!
i really thought that it was unsaveable, but you prevail again. tysm!!!
It was a spicy run, but very satisfying! I hope you learned something from the video!
what you have researched? And what of an airforce that was?
nothing, and they were paper planes :p@@eisscrat5667
This is why paradox makes things easy. Some players can't even do the basics well.
I think with the glitch Japan declaring on Yugoslavia (and dragging Romania and the Czechs in comintern) this wouldn't have been a disaster.
The crazy hilarious thing is that Italy being in the war as an enemy genuinely contributed to the collapse of the enemy lol
Average Italy moment
Of course they did not fire a civil war via balance of power when Italy went Popular Front focus. And it's much easier to capitulate them rather than making a puppet of their own civil war.
It is always Italy
Historically accurate Italy showing their skill once again.
Italy was Germany's worst ally during ww2 change my mind
Bitt3rSteel when he's doing disaster saves:
10% saving
20% teaching
70% telling us how dumb we are
5% saving 15% teaching 80% telling us we are dumb
@@RivRob 10% saving 15% teaching 60% telling us dumb we are yes.
@@yourpresident1761And 15% cringing at the research tree.
@@Elyseon Fr tho
To be fair this man really couldn’t have fucked up more than he did, like he was beetlejuice levels of stupid
Japan declaring on Yugo happens when you go Kaiser Germany. I think it's a bug based on the country IDs for Shanxi (which Japan gets a wargoal on) and Yug being mixed up. It's only ever happened to me on Imperial Germany runs.
Edit: it’s actually because the events to put pressure on Yugo are being redirected to Japan (as the strongest fascist nation) now that Germany is non-fascist.
The weirdest part for me was before no step back dlc, japan always declared war to yugo circa 40 or 41. Yugo always joins the fucking Chinese United front out of all factions which really makes a mess in Europe trying to unite lmao
I think the actual answer is that it's something to do with Yugoslav events being coded to fallback to the most powerful Fascist country if Germany isn't fascist, and that's Japan
@@sevastopolveneto1568 Thank you.
highly unlikely Japan was always the second strongest fascist nation in his playthroughs, who knows he could've been dealin with some really historically accurate(incompetent) fascist Italy.@@sevastopolveneto1568
@@sevastopolveneto1568Fall back? Do you mean to fall to them or to work with them? Japan is declaring war in Yugoslavia
Once again, Japan declares war on Yugoslavia. By this point I think that there's got to be something terribly wrong in the current build as it keeps happening.
This happens when you oppose Hitler. The Yugoslav event chain where you put pressure on, and eventually declare war on them as nazi germany apparently switches to the most powerful fascist nation left if germany isn't, which is Japan.
@@FusselikoI bet it was meant to switch to Italy, as that would make more sense, but PDX spaghetti code happened or something
@@captain_hammer It doesn't seem too hard to fix. They should probably just code it to switch to european fascists only. It doesn't make sense for Japan to care.
@@Fusselikothere's a specific check for "most powerful nation with fascist as ruling party", it's used for things like the economic foreign support in the Estonian focus tree etc. Afaik there isn't any similar check that limits it to Europe though
@@vertexed5540 I don't really understand why this event chain is so vital in the first place. Just make it disappear along with fascist germany. Italy gets wargoals on yugo anyways, so what's the point?
that thumbnail screams QUALITY
Fr
Fr
Real
Splendid
Indeedly doo
2:57
Bit: "Where the f-"
YT: "Hello there"
Bit: "Hell are you civs?"
I want space marines.
We have space marines at home.
Space marines at home:
That save was great and a good way to see how (on the AI's POV) it is important to get encirclements when going deep into enemy territory. You cannot let them have enough VP to survive and occupy territory, and have many weird templates... You hunkered down, on defensible terrain with most of your army intact, forced the enemy to stretch their supplies, and when the counter-attack moment came, split, encircle isolate and destroy.
Bravo, truly a master of the craft!
The fact the world tension is so low in this clusterf*ck really goes to show how much the game relies on the historical German focuses to raise tension.
I’m always desperately scraping for ways to raise tension as the Kaiser so I can declare war… with little luck.
That's an amazing thumbnail. I love how you called it a teaching experience, all teachers experience pain, just as you will I suspect.
I can second this as a professor
bitt3rsteel never fails to make our toes wiggle
🤨
Bitt3rsteel never fails to tickle my toes🤤🤤🤤
Can we just appreciate how much effort Bitt3rsteel puts into our feet?
True
everyone just wiggled their toes because of you
Ah, i loved the bedtime stories my grandpa told me
Back when germany first had a civil war in the 30s, then tried to invade France at the end of the 30s, got pushed back to berlin, invaded the netherlands, pushed to the maginot, sailed all the way to italy, and then won the war, somehow
RIP grandpa
Space marines? Nah, we got atmosphere warriors.
Underrated comment ngl made me giggle thank you stranger
25:34 LMAO Greece only declared war on the Italian faction, not the Comintern, so they took the Dodecanese and all of Albania
Based Greek AI
Yeah the greeks are really powerful against the Italians if Yugoslavia and Bulgaria don’t get involved, just like in real life before Germany overwhelmed Yugoslavia to open the door for Mussolini
"I am island hopping in the pacific" *looks at Caribbean*
Are you ok Bitt3rSteel? I think you might have needed a break at that point.
Nah, He was just looking for India! That's in the (general) direction of Pacific, right?
This is impressive AF. I do not get into disasters like these (I quite way way before that), but I do get into situations where I defend, but cannot push or dunno how to win properly. Right now I have Trotsky in the USSR, killed some 6M attackers and lost about 300k of my soldiers, but only recently have I pushed a few tiles. Meanwhile, Italy is almost gone, like always.
The fact I have no idea how to properly take over everything means I enjoy both your defensive and your offensive parts of the videos. The defending part is crazy though - like I am starting to think you can defend anything in this game.
I think one min max area Bittersteel misses out on is taking advantage of the production efficiency of things he doesn't like. I would keep a few mils on a high soft attack light tank, to basically serve as an spg, while I ramp up medium tank production.
I considered it, but the fuel situation wasn't going to make that a reality
You take flexible organization for the org loss reduction. Coordination is good if you stack it (signal companies etc.) to delete individual divisions out of battles, but to exploit large front attacks (like battle planning with motorized) flexible is pretty good.
6:00 Oh my god!! We have talked about this guys😂😂 You gonna give Bitter a brainaneurysm if you dont keep the artillery up to date
This disaster save is exactly what Frederick the Great experienced in 7 years war lol
But russia was a prussiaboo
What ? Soviets in Hamburg?
Jk
@@JaquaviousDamianit wasn't for a long time, it switched sides later during the war
Your videos are great man! Keep up the good work 😊😊😊😊
Thanks a ton!
@@Bitt3rSteel Always
Hey Steel, I love the video as always. I’ve become a lot better at this game since I found this channel. I have a suggestion. You should do a series that is the opposite of disaster save. You have competent players send in strong germanys, and then take over an ai USSR, UK, or USA, or vice versa. There is of course the issue that the AI will ruin their country, but nontheless putting the ai in a strong position could give an opportunity for more multiplayer focused tips.
As far as I understand mobile infantry is better. Blitzkrieg just adds more breakthrough to tanks, which you don't need as tanks already have good breakthrough. Mobile infantry allows you to put more tanks into you armored divisions and still have good org.
That's a good point
Mobile infantry is better if you push with normal divisions. If you do a multiplayer game where you basically only fight with tanks, it's better to go for blitzkrieg, but in single player and with mixed troops, mobile infantry is the best option.
Especially if you use the most cost effective unit in the game for pushing: mech.
but it give tanks more org, what tanks lack the most
@@antonpsd4849 org is not that important in multiplayer. You need every bit of stats you can have, you rock with 35 org inf.
When you are in a click battle, you reorg while retreating basically.
In single player i get it, but in multi you just go full stats all the time.
worrying about meta in this game is cringe, space marines and battleplan is all i need@@12gark
7:24 there is nothing we can do...
We gonna just ignore the fact he has 16k light tanks in storage?
One thing to note about the start of the save is that this guy was playing a FIVE speed war.
im about that masochistical grind
This isn't even a disaster, this is like, a catastrophe save. An atomic save.
It’s the point where you alt+f4 and try again
30:26 It warms my heart to see the British Empire flag slapped on the French mainland.
Probably my favourite video yet! Desperate as hell. And a great rare tag at the end!
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work man!
Can I save a crumbling Germany?
Community/fans: No.
Bitt3rsteel: Are you sure about that?
Man is saying he can't save a Germany, yet managed to liberate Germany as Germany from the Allies who had occupied Germany
Bro literally thought "let's play a Germany worse than AI Germany"
very well done, hell of a turn around and video.
17:23 This is exactly what germans did to us during WW1 :D
Thanks
No problem!
This is the definition of Quality over Quantity
31:32 : the perfect laughter when the game took the last ounce of sanity you have that day
This was a really enjoyable watch! Good work :)
The little entente guarantee circle sucks, they should just make an event fire if Austria Hungary reunites then have the circle, and for historical maybe just have France get an event if one of them are getting justified on until they do the buy time focus
yeah, the Japan declaring on Yugoslavia seems to be a bug when historical AI is turned off. They do it most of my games if Yugo still exists
He probably got Danzig returned from Poland in exchange for a guarantee.
Yeah, that's how Monarchist Germany settles the Polish issue.
You can just remove the guarantee
I would love to see longer videos of these
Well played dude, nice. i like your every video. keep going like that.
2:59 where the fu. hell 😂😂😂
nice save
I’m a simple man. When I see a bittersteel episode, I like
27:21 BRO MADE LINKIN PARK REFERENCE AHAHHAHA
That's why I always keep a full stack division as home defense.Just in case someone decides a naval invade
10:07
bittersteel messed up and now he has to save a bankrupt bittersteel
as much as i love this i feel like there's no more point in watching it if you know he only posts disaster saves that actually get saved instead of something failing
There have def been a couple disaster saves where he's *actually* not been able to succeed tho
its more about the journey than the destination
I must say that's a very odd pet peeve to have ngl. Isn't the whole point of this to watch how he manages to beat impossible situations and odds? If he were to post random disasters in which he loses at the end, that would just be the equivalent of being blueballed. Very odd indeed XD.
Whether or not a save can be salvaged is mostly determined in the first 30 minutes of playing it. If he can set up a defensive line that can resist the enemy throwing itself at it, the enemy will bleed all their equipment and manpower faster than they'll ever recover it, while he'll just get stronger. So my guess is that if he does ever come across disasters he can't save the video would be about 2 minutes long.
I know you said you want this to be teaching, but my god I don't think I've ever heard you sounding so pissed-off when going over the absolute chaos at the start.
Stalin: Confused screaming
That was super impressive 0___0 I feel like I still need to learn more about the game to pull off stunts like these ones ^^
Go for it!
usa be like: Waaaait what? Holy Roman Empire ?! Man, fuck the europe! we're out
33:16 Ah, yes. My favorite activity since a certain recent event.
I have found a fairly interesting design for an infantry tank group that is manufacturing heavy but punches hard for minimal manpower.
3-light
1-heavy
3-infantry.
Artillery support. - bare minimum. Used it as Manchukuo and it defends well, it attacks well it's just op
7 inf, 2 medium (with a lot of armour), 1 arty. Push, hold, whatever.
But i tried a mech only run with Italy, where I made infantry for Port guards and just a bunch of 9 mech, 4 arty. You can squeeze 24 of those out of the same IC you'd need for 6-8 tanks, and they work just the same. I litterally took on the entirety of the world with only those, and if you keep up with artillery research and mech, they work until very late game.
This is one of the most beautiful things that I've ever seen
Omg the futurama referances strike again! this is a way of editing by now i think xD also a bittersteel disaster save is always nice to watch before sleep 😁
this is like ragnarok 1937 but without any bonus weapons and with barely any troops
Wow. This is first time seeing bitt3rsteel be... well, bitter. The initial pep talks on what not to do as alt history Germany (to be fair, all paths Germany) was such a "disappointed pops" mode that I felt legit nostalgia for that one homework I didn't do in middle school showing up on my report card in front of my Asian parents.
One must imagine sisyphus happy
yeah I've also seen Japan declaring on Yugo
Germany: Terms of Fluel, we have no fluel
Been having Japan declare war on Yugoslavia seemingly at random on all of my Imperial Germany campaigns lately, it really throws things off the rails
Its due to the game code breaking
Wow, pretty cool thumbnail !
Glad you like it!
BITTERSTEEL BECAME LOW TIER GOD WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Very nice. I did miss to see if you managed to field a decent airforce in the end?
Bitt3r just keeps on smashing these disasters like it’s nothing👍. Would you consider doing a run as Ireland to take over the British?
Hell yes
In no historical Japan usually declares on Yugoslavia. Don't know why
Yugoslavia doing the "Join the Tripartite Pact" foci and found the nearest fascist faction leader, in this case, Japan.
Paul got booted by the Air Force, Yugoslavia quits the faction, and the faction leader got a wargoal on Yugoslavia.
IRL, Germany declares on Yugoslavia because of the coup.
He sounds so pained near the beginning 😂😂😂
bitt3rsteel warhammer 40k fan confirmed !! Dutchman on that perturabo arc
Fantastic! Great job
This is how hoi should be played difficult situation creating plans adapting your army and special units for plans organization of the navy and air force to complement and support each other that's why i like the disaster saves a bit more than normal cause it's not set a plan and go even at the peak of the enemies power that happens only when they are at their last toes and capitulating
The thumbnail is goated
My guy, you have to "reform" Germany as the Volga German State (you'll have to use the Road to '56 mod) and yes, possible i think
Love the thumbnail
Basically an Endseig playthrough.
Why do I get the feeling that the editor's personality is largely based on Futurama?
Convoy escort? Did the German navy help the Soviets to land?
No they escort convoys for trade (with the nation that owns the fleet ) and naval invasions launched by the nation which owns the fleet and they take all the fuel by travelling back and forth to escort each convoy assigned to anything which is why Bitt3rSteel was complaining about fuel. They didn’t escort the soviets but they didn’t attack them either because they aren’t programmed to do that on convoy escort. Convoy escort is good when you launch a naval invasion or really need resources from the sea because you can just put a part of the navy on it and make the rest hold the naval supremacy
@@whitezombie10 it was meant as a joke...
I know how convoy escort works in HOI4 but I never use it
This video should just be called BIG CZECHOSLOVAKIA 15:55
I really want to play this game (i bought it on steam on sale) but good Lord it is too technical for my brain to process, i just enjoy watching vids on it
I love games like this, where you crawl back from absolute defeat.
Epic (I believe) meme inspired thumbnail 👌
You could use a trick with a port to make it easier ;) But as we see you don't need it :D
I think if I can figure out how too do the saves my gameplay might break the line of doable and not doable but who knows
29:30. would it not be better to puppet all of the individual italian states in the off chance you can hold it so they can go down their economy paths?
Well, yes... But I don't like doing that... I know I should... But I can't
Bro the THUMBNAIL IS COOL
Hey man can you make a video about all the templates tank and plane designes for singleplayer. I think that will be so cool
A million people do that already, like Feedback Gaming.
Thanks mate I will check it
@@iancasey8608
Yea
France should be a core of the Holy Roman Empire. After all is was a part of it under Charlemagne. And it was Charlemagne who united (most of) Francia, becoming king of the Franks, *before* his conquest of Germania and becoming Holy Roman Emperor.
You, son of a gun you’ve done it again
Based that he gave finland Karjala back
this is a really good thumbnail
Was this starting situation the result of some 'do everything as wrong as humanly possible' challenge?
Lore of Can I save a crumbling Germany? Momentum 100
I want this game so much, but I don`t have money to buy it.
Hello, u have a good picture on video, bravo!
30:59 OH MY GOODNESS IT'S THE PENlS UNION
Must have forgotten to research a few times thats low tech for a German with 5 slots.