5:10 you're not entirely wrong. This dialogue was to tell the audience that the dragon is lonely because Rhaenyra's first husband might be dead. That is why rhaenyra's expression changes because she realises why the dragon is lonely
This is NOT me defending the harassment of Fabien Frankel, because that's unacceptable. The hate thrown his way isn't simply just because of the A/Erryk situation. It's the whole of his actions leading up to that as well. Criston basically spat at Rhaenyra when she suggested the EXACT situation he has going on with Alicent. His hypocrisy is maddening. That, added with the allowance of Jaehaerys' murder by being in bed with Alicent, then chastising Arryk for "sullying" his white cloak when he's been doing that by breaking his chastity vow over and over and murdering innocent men left and right, his projection on Arryk was the height of hypocrisy. He sent an innocent man to his death. A death that made brother killed brother. But again, those are the actions of Criston Cole NOT Fabien Frankel. So stop harassing him you weirdos.
The fact is, people should be praising Fabien Frankel's acting abilities since he plays Criston Cole so well that people hate the character so much. It's just weird to me that people can't separate the actor from the character. More people should watch the interviews with the actors so they can put that distance in their minds.
Sad that the acting actually is good enough to generate the response against his character. Emphasis is on character. People are absolutely insane to take it that seriously.
Baela und Rhaena are daughters of Laena Verlaryon und DAEMON Targaryen. Laeonor Verlayon the brother of Laena was husband of Rhaenyra but their children are Strongs. Remember? Greetings from Germany🙂
The final dialogue about The song of ice and fire is the profecy that passes from heir to heir, Viserys told the profecy to Rhaenyra when he named her heir to the throne and never told it to neither Daemon (hence why when Rhaenyra told him about it last season he chokes her and she laughs, because in reality he was never considered to be named heir, Viserys never told him this) and Aegon nor Alicent, so when Rhaenyra hears the exact words and Alicent is confused she realizes her father never regretted his decision and becomes aware that the throne is hers and she has been robed of it by this confusion. To me this part was really important because she was considering that her father did change his mind about her and perhaps she might surrender, but then that's not it and she knows that the only way to claim what's hers is war :( sad but necessary, because the greens are not going to stand back now.
If Corlys has any Targaryen blood should be a question soon. Since he has relatives who might claim a dragon. Do you have to have the 'blood of the dragon' from a dragonrider family like the Targs? Or do you just have to be Valyrian?
Thank You for this question.. not sure if besides targaryens..( wich leanor and his sister we’re half targayens from the mom side) So i get that they can fly dragons.. don’t know of the Valerians can… see i lost track of this incest on incest fam already…
@@pajamaparty01 In Valyria, there was many dragon riders and families. I suspect the doom and fire was a metaphor like winter referring to the white walkers. Maybe the Targaryans are the doom of Valarya. They didnt have much power there but they did have visions and foresight. Imagin someone like littlefinger who can see the future lol. It explains why they survived. The Valyrians could probably ride dragons.
@@pajamaparty01Only the dragonriders, but there’s been intermarriages between both families since they came to Westeros, the mother of Aegon the Conqueror himself was a Velaryon.
5:00 You're not wrong because it's a good assumption on her part, but what's really interesting is that the bond should mean that Seasmoke _knows_ Laenor isn't really dead, which would beg the question of why is he really bothered... Also, since in the book we don't know for sure what happened to Laenor, Seasmoke's behavior really is a mystery at this point.
It's also important to point out that what we absolutely know and don't know about the way the bonds work isn't 100% clear. The fact that Laenor has been gone for all these years (at least 3 years) could be the issue; maybe Seasmoke expected him to come back, or maybe he has been close enough by that it didn't matter. But if he has gone further into Essos and didn't just settle in Pentos somewhere, right across the Narrow Sea, then the bond may be fainter. Or maybe he is CLOSER to home now, and Seasmoke senses him, but hasn't been able to find him. There is a lot George has NOT explained about that magic.
I've been a resident of Japan for many years, and didn't watch GoT when it was in syndication. I binged the entire series in the summer of 2019. It truly is the greatest TV drama of all time, and the writing on seasons 1 through 4 especially is unparalleled. If you guys are loving HotD, you will not be disappointed by diving head first into GoT.
@@TheOdrinSearchParty you’re certainly free to express how you feel. But if these reactions aren’t up to your standard, that’s fine, you don’t have to watch them. Why would you watch something you don’t think is good? Other than to purposefully be negative?
We briefly saw Gwayne Hightower in the first episode of the series. He’s in armor the whole time and played by a stunt performer, Daemon knocks him off his horse during the jousting tournament
Poor Diana going unnoticed again. The servant that was sent away by Alicent in season one with silver and the moon tea. After Aegon ... She's the one the guy tipped for ale (and slapped) The one at Ulf's left. She was also seen terrified while serving Aegon but he didn't recognize her. (he was to focused on his squire throwing peanuts at him)
there’s really nothing alicent can do to stop the war from happening. which is so tragic bc at the dinner scene with viserys she said rhaenyra would make a fine queen one day. also, that throne was 100% getting usurped by otto the moment viserys died like…he’d been scheming since the day rhaenyra got named the heir.
"Usurped" might be a little too much there. He's always wanted to wield power but even he could never have planned for Viserys to not have a male child nor Aemma's death, which was the only way he could get Alicent there. That opportunity presented itself but otherwise he probably would have been content being the Hand of whoever followed. That's what makes it a twisted just deserts that he got fired twice after putting in so much work just to stay there.
@@douglas2938 No, "usurped" IS the correct word. When Alicent tells the council about what she believes is Viserys' last wish, she finds out that Otto and the council had been planning to take the throne for Aegon anyway, it's just now they have a better story. If Viserys changed his mind before he died, then it isn't usurpation after all, which makes them all very happy. AND, not only was he planning to take the throne anyway, but on top of that he commands the lord commander of the Kingsguard to go to Dragonstone and kill Rhaenyra, Daemon, and all their children before anyone can be told Viserys is dead. The lord commander refuses and resigns on the spot, then he and Erryk flee the Red Keep (after Erryk steals Viserys' crown back). The thing is, the war was always going to happen, no matter what Alicent heard that night, because Otto already had a plan in place. Go back and watch episode 9 and you will see that.
@@Skye_Writer Again, that's not "since the day rhaenyra got named the heir" Otto wants power but there's no need to give him more credit than he deserves for opportunities that fell into his lap.
@@douglas2938 i’ll admit i said “since the day she was named heir” as an exaggeration but i also think you’re underestimating otto’s ambition to get his blood on the throne. the closest he got to accept rhaenyra as the heir was when he proposed to viserys a marriage between nyra and aegon, which personally i think would’ve solved a lot of problems.
@@lu-kp4pn I don't question Otto's ambition but I think people give him way too much credit for simply seizing whatever opportunity comes up. Had he been as prescient, he would have Cole under his thumb, for instance.
The cut to the battle aftermath is so haunting especially since the immediate next stop is the buried twins, reinforces the two-close-sides-needlessly-warring feeling
1:28 Hector either watches things ahead of time, knows information beforehand, or makes very lucky predictions, because he tends to make very “educated” guesses often 😂
The lonely dragon belonged to Laenor, Rhaenyra's last husband who they sent to Essos. So the look of concern might mean Rhaenyra thinking he's dead, or that "lonely" means the dragon is looking for a new rider and she needs to make sure they're on her side.
As a vfx artist, I really appreciate you guys mentioning that you know VFX is involved in nearly every shot and generally giving good critics and not praising practical FX by crapping all over VFX.
It is written down and shared, it's inscribed on the Catspaw dagger but only fire reveals it so no one but the King and their Heir know of the prophecy, Viserys showed Rhaenyra the dagger when he named her Heir, it's been many years so she's likely forgotten it's on there, plus Aegon has it at this point.
Honestly think that deep down Alicent was clinging to the idea that Viserys changed his mind so she can have a piece of mind but it’s dumb. This man was sick out of his mind and she just fed him drugs I don’t understand how she would “misunderstand” him.
Remember guys, Harrenhal might be empty, but Harrenhal is the main castle of the region, and who ever runs Harrenhal is the overall Lord of the region, and the lords of the other noble houses around Harrenhal pledged loyalty to Harrenhal, so who ever gets Harrenhal on their side, gets a huge army combined of soldiers from every noble house around Harrenhal.
To quote Rhys Ifans, the actor who plays Otto Hightower when aske if he was Team Black or Green: "Both sides are genocidal, crazy war criminals. So I think we should all enjoy seeing how they die.” For me the reason I can't stand Cole THIS much, is how likable he was when we first got to know him in S1 as Rhaenyra's lover. And then getting that 180. And now he's doing exactly the same, punishes others for the exact same things he's doing. Compared to Jeoffrey who was just evil throughout, almost comically, and we just wait for the comeuppance, to watch him die.
Ooo interesting take of the dragon being lonely Hector, I maybe took it as Misarya knowing Leanor isn’t dead and Rhaenyra was thrown by that comment, but I can see it how you said it as well
I love the humor you guys find while watching this often disturbing and violent show. There are so many people to dislike and it can be hard to watch but I laugh a lot watching your reactions. I hope episode four is as epic as people are predicting
To answer Adams question on Velaryian steel, how items are forged is a mystery as it's secrets were lost when Velyria was destroyed, so it's impossible to forge anything new, you can reforge a Velaryian steel sword but its a very hard process, it is thought that magic and dragons fire were used but that can't be confirmed, what is known is it's very strong but light, and in the case of bladed weapons the blade will remain sharp forever, it's also very expensive, Many of the Noble houses have a Velaryian steel weapon mostly swords that get passed down the family line.
I like how it's pulled from real world history. Specifically, Damascus steel. We can approximate it and recreate the look with modern tech but we have no idea how they did it. It was stronger than anything else at the time and the swords wouldnt dull
I started watching this show because I wanted to see more dragons, I'm keep watching because of the dialogues. Rhaenys and Corlys, Rhaenyra and Alicent, Rhaenyra and Daemon last episode, and Otto and Aegon/Criston also last episode, there are so many insanely great written and acted dialogues this season! But since we're mid-season now I guess there will be something big happening within the next two episode which can further escalate into the finale.
@@gretchenmeinzen9962 my theory on that is it’s either some magic shit illusion/necromancy or she used blood magic to bind either silverwing or the cannibal to her son
I'm loving the implicit support the women leaders have shown to each other on both sides. Definitely signs of what a matriarchy might have looke like in Westeros.
God what a stupid idiot you are you act like women do not rule in the world let me tell you they do and they are no different than men you know why because we are all humans and women supporting each other in this show at that time is the least realistic thing i have see people were ruthless and bloodthirsty and did not think about feminism for sure in medieval ages
In ASOIAF there are what is called a Woods Witch. They’re mostly in the North and they follow the old gods. Mostly they work as midwives and healers but some are said to have visions. That being said this is likely Alys Rivers, also known as the Witch Queen, who was known to have visions and was a bastard of House Strong at Harrenhall
The Song of Ice and Fire, if you’ll recall is etched into the blade that Aegon II carries with him. They have no idea (the Greens) of any of this. Because it is only passed down to the person who will inherit the throne. It was in season one I think episode one or two. That blade appears in GOT .
Love the ending . It was too late for Alicent to turn back. She’ll probably get beheaded if she try to stop the war. It’s too far gone now to stop it. Now the show begins!! Dance of dragons!!
I’m surprised how much I like the writing this season given the fact that this show started filming right as the writers strike occurred. They just had to go with what they had, with no writers to help edit and change things on set.
Actually they were not working under the United States Actors and Writers Guilds, they work under the United Kingdom’s Guilds, so they were free of strikes restrictions. It’s the only reason why we got the season this year.
23:20 the knife has the song of ice and fire story, the dream of aegon the conqueror, Inscribed on it. When the king showed her last season when the knife had been sitting in fire.
The Targaryen and Velaryon families are the two great houses that both originate from Ancient Valyria and came over to Westeros with Aegon the Conqueror many generations ago after the fall of Valyria. This connection with the ancient homeland of the dragons is why Velaryons are the only other family that can bond with dragons and why their house is so close with the Targeryons. As for Valyrian steel, think of it like Mythril. It is an ancient smithing technique from Ancient Valyria that has been lost to ages. It is the strongest manufactured material known to man. Despite no one being able to create it anymore, there are a handful of master smiths that are able to rework existing Valyrian steel into new forms. You see this more on the OG GOT, where there is a Valyrian steel great sword that is melted down and reforged into two new swords.
The woman Daemon saw is named Alys Rivers, and yes she is a witch. She's one of the more mysterious characters in this universe as no one knows who or what she really is. It is believed by some that she may even be over 400 years old and uses dark magic to keep herself young. I'm excited for this show to explore the more mystical elements of this world's lore.
The next episode is called Dance of Dragons so I think we’ll finally see dragons fighting. Good call about Seasmoke being lonely without a rider - however the show is different from the book in that Laenor (Seasmoke’s rider) is actually dead so Seasmoke would be free to find another rider. In the show they softened it up so as not to besmirch Rhaenyra by letting Laenor live and have a happy ending. His dragon should still be bonded to him even from afar and would most likely go find him.
The meeting at the end was that they both now realize what was truly said BUT is now way too late. 😮🤨 Also, the viewing at the bar is still going cuz they have a you tube reaction channel for HOTD. It was the same channel for GOT. GRRM actually recently stop by for a visit.🤩 Great reaction! Thanks!🙂
There are magic users and witches in this world, though you would be surprised by people's concern over that in GOT. I mean, there are dragons for goodness sake. But what is interesting about this character is that no one really knows what she is or who she is, but last names of bastard children are from the area they are from, so where Harrenhal is, Rivers. But like the book doesn't settle it either.
It’s not a spoiler to answer your question about witches. The answer would be. In the game of thrones universe magic, in all forms, is very *very* real. Anything else gets into spoiler territory so hopefully that satisfies your curiosity on that point for now! (I know people are getting on you guys for these reviews. But as someone who has read all the books, watched all the shows, and deeply loves this universe, to me it’s interesting to see you being introduced to it. It provides a very different perspective and I hope you consider also reacting to the original Game of Thrones show at some point!)
There is no place anywhere and at any time to wish harm to a person/actor for a role they are playing. If they are doing such a great job as portraying someone that you can hate what you should do is wish them well for doing a fantastic job of portraying somebody who is so vile. But don’t threaten an actual human being doing a job because you don’t like the character he’s doing exactly what he’s being paid to do make the character the most hated thing on television.
You guys really don't understand the hate that Cristin Cole gets? Not the actor, it's stupid to send him threats because of his character, but Cole is such a vile character. It's not just what happened with the twins. It's every damn thing he does. I find him so much worse than Aemond.
I'd love for you guys to watch through GoT. The jokes about some of the silliness of the world is great... such as the names... so much could be avoided in this world if they just used unique names for royalty lmao. But seasons 1-5 are such good television as well... season 6 and 7 have their moments as well. To one day watch you guys experience and learn the history of the Weirwood trees, Harenhall, etc.... it would be dope.
Yes. “Witches” are a thing in GOT. Remember “the red woman” who spoke and saw things in the flames? And yes that dark haired mysterious woman is someone with a certain set of skills. 😜
ok this is a longass comment so get ready its not that erryk and arryk were beloved, people are just annoyed criston caused their deaths by acting like he wasnt fucking alicent down the hall instead of doing his job. he pretended arryk was suspicious to avoid acknowledging that its his fault. the character is always going around trying to make other people feel small just because he feels small, and he only feels small because he was stupid enough to think rhaenyra would run away with him. his whole hate for her is based entirely on his actions but he blames her. he is a very pathetic man who refuses to acknowledge his own flaws. add in psychotic people who cant separate actor from character, and you get threats on social media. the hate for aemond is funny to me because i like aemond the most. specifically because hes such a little weirdo. hes like an anime character lmao its so cartoonish, I LOVE IT. i find it entertaining the same way a fast and furious movie is entertaining. it tickles that dumb 10 year old boy part of your brain that never fully goes away and loves excessively stylized things daemon's second wife was corlys and rhaenys daughter who died trying to give birth. he has two children from her. rhaenyra was married to corlys and rhaenys son, and had 3 illegitimate children during that marriage. then rhaenyra and daemon had two more children when they married each other, plus one that died at birth. one of rhaenyras sons died when aemond attacked on his dragon, so between daemon and rhaenyra they have 6 children remaining. the two she had with daemon are the two youngest, and those are the two she sent away with daemon's other daughter, along with her youngest child from her second marriage. valyrian steel is supposed to be like beskar, yes. lightweight and incredibly durable, the weapons stay sharp for centuries. valyria is an empire that was destroyed by some unspecified distaster, before the events of either show. they had metalworking processes that were secret and involved magic in some way, so when their civilization was gone, the knowledge of how to forge the steel was lost. george rr martin prefers magic systems that arent super defined/clearly understood in universe, and are more creepy and sacrificial and bloody and inconsistent and weird, so there arent like easily found spellbooks and shit. a big status symbol for houses in westeros is having valyrian steel weapons or armor that they pass down, because theyre literally priceless, since they cant be replicated anymore. best you can hope for is to maybe melt one down and reshape it but its extremely hard to find someone who can even manage that. the targaryens are one of only a couple families that left valyria before it was destroyed. the velaryons are another. the targaryens actually left valyria because one of them had a vision that valyria was going to be destroyed. the story rhaenyras father was saying on his deathbed was another vision/dream by another targaryen, and thats probably why it wasnt recorded more officially. maybe they thought if it was more well known, thered be some self fulfilling prophecy stuff going on? idk. alicent was just acknowledging that even if they told everyone it was all a misunderstanding, it wouldnt matter at this point. theyre both surrounded by bloodthirsty people with longstanding grudges, as mentioned by rhaenys at the start of the episode. alicent has no real authority, and things are already in motion because of the actual murders/attempted murders that have been done. the thing with the dragons behavior is that there is a bond between the dragon and whoever is currently its rider. they respond to how the rider feels, but are also living weapons of mass destruction that cant be fully controlled. thats why aemond couldnt call off his dragon when he was chasing luke. even if he just meant to scare him, there is still real anger in aemond about losing his eye, and the way that they (including his brother, as seen in this episode) used to tease him for being such a little weirdo as a kid, and the dragon responded to that anger. the dragons are on edge because the people theyre bonded with are on edge. as an aside, this is part of why i dont mind aemond too much. he lost his eye because daemons daughters felt he stole their mothers dragon, but it doesnt work like that. they dont get passed down through families. then they fought him 4v1 and pulled out a knife...he wasnt blameless in that interaction because he did antagonize them by calling rhaenyras sons bastards, but i would say he was more justified than they were.
Of course, Alicent is so stupid that she didn’t decide to end the war right in the sept) it’s strange that she didn’t go and tell all her irritated children - guys, let’s finish) it’s strange that she didn’t personally force everyone to lay down their heads to be cut off, because it’s unlikely that they will leave presumed heirs to Damon alive. In general, such a strange woman. That's definitely why I'm on Team Green. 😹
because she didn’t want one i guess. in the book she only rode drogon once and it’s because she had to or she would’ve died. also she got injured riding him so in the future she might get a saddle.
So you guys are working your way through HotD with all of us, but you're NOT going to touch Game of Thrones, despite it being the greatest syndicated TV drama of all time? Even in your down time, away from UA-cam?
alicent is now without power. otto banished. ser pretty boy is half gone. ser footsie switched allegiance already. even if she wanted to call a halt... last season GoT viewers like 45 million. this season hotd close to 12 million. twitter acct westerosies posting latest stats.
The throne was usurped, there was already a plan to not let Rahenyra ascend even if there had not been the misunderstanding about the name Aegon, the meeting and the most unnecessary scene in the entire history of the GOT universe.
5:10 you're not entirely wrong. This dialogue was to tell the audience that the dragon is lonely because Rhaenyra's first husband might be dead. That is why rhaenyra's expression changes because she realises why the dragon is lonely
This is NOT me defending the harassment of Fabien Frankel, because that's unacceptable.
The hate thrown his way isn't simply just because of the A/Erryk situation. It's the whole of his actions leading up to that as well. Criston basically spat at Rhaenyra when she suggested the EXACT situation he has going on with Alicent. His hypocrisy is maddening. That, added with the allowance of Jaehaerys' murder by being in bed with Alicent, then chastising Arryk for "sullying" his white cloak when he's been doing that by breaking his chastity vow over and over and murdering innocent men left and right, his projection on Arryk was the height of hypocrisy. He sent an innocent man to his death. A death that made brother killed brother.
But again, those are the actions of Criston Cole NOT Fabien Frankel. So stop harassing him you weirdos.
The fact is, people should be praising Fabien Frankel's acting abilities since he plays Criston Cole so well that people hate the character so much. It's just weird to me that people can't separate the actor from the character. More people should watch the interviews with the actors so they can put that distance in their minds.
@@AmyL._orcgirl His late father was an actor as well; he played Julian in Kindred The Embraced.
Sad that the acting actually is good enough to generate the response against his character. Emphasis is on character. People are absolutely insane to take it that seriously.
Baela und Rhaena are daughters of Laena Verlaryon und DAEMON Targaryen. Laeonor Verlayon the brother of Laena was husband of Rhaenyra but their children are Strongs. Remember? Greetings from Germany🙂
What city?
@@prettycyber8332 Hamburg😼
The final dialogue about The song of ice and fire is the profecy that passes from heir to heir, Viserys told the profecy to Rhaenyra when he named her heir to the throne and never told it to neither Daemon (hence why when Rhaenyra told him about it last season he chokes her and she laughs, because in reality he was never considered to be named heir, Viserys never told him this) and Aegon nor Alicent, so when Rhaenyra hears the exact words and Alicent is confused she realizes her father never regretted his decision and becomes aware that the throne is hers and she has been robed of it by this confusion. To me this part was really important because she was considering that her father did change his mind about her and perhaps she might surrender, but then that's not it and she knows that the only way to claim what's hers is war :( sad but necessary, because the greens are not going to stand back now.
Targaryens and Velaryons are both of Valerian descent, so both families inherited the silver hair, regardless of past intermarriages.
If Corlys has any Targaryen blood should be a question soon. Since he has relatives who might claim a dragon. Do you have to have the 'blood of the dragon' from a dragonrider family like the Targs? Or do you just have to be Valyrian?
Thank You for this question.. not sure if besides targaryens..( wich leanor and his sister we’re half targayens from the mom side) So i get that they can fly dragons.. don’t know of the Valerians can… see i lost track of this incest on incest fam already…
@@pajamaparty01 In Valyria, there was many dragon riders and families. I suspect the doom and fire was a metaphor like winter referring to the white walkers. Maybe the Targaryans are the doom of Valarya. They didnt have much power there but they did have visions and foresight. Imagin someone like littlefinger who can see the future lol. It explains why they survived. The Valyrians could probably ride dragons.
@@pajamaparty01Only the dragonriders, but there’s been intermarriages between both families since they came to Westeros, the mother of Aegon the Conqueror himself was a Velaryon.
@@pajamaparty01the show is going to change things it’s not supposed to be his bastards
5:00 You're not wrong because it's a good assumption on her part, but what's really interesting is that the bond should mean that Seasmoke _knows_ Laenor isn't really dead, which would beg the question of why is he really bothered... Also, since in the book we don't know for sure what happened to Laenor, Seasmoke's behavior really is a mystery at this point.
It's also important to point out that what we absolutely know and don't know about the way the bonds work isn't 100% clear. The fact that Laenor has been gone for all these years (at least 3 years) could be the issue; maybe Seasmoke expected him to come back, or maybe he has been close enough by that it didn't matter. But if he has gone further into Essos and didn't just settle in Pentos somewhere, right across the Narrow Sea, then the bond may be fainter.
Or maybe he is CLOSER to home now, and Seasmoke senses him, but hasn't been able to find him.
There is a lot George has NOT explained about that magic.
Nope, in the book Laenor definitely dies. The only question is whether or not Daemon had anything to do with it.
I've been a resident of Japan for many years, and didn't watch GoT when it was in syndication. I binged the entire series in the summer of 2019.
It truly is the greatest TV drama of all time, and the writing on seasons 1 through 4 especially is unparalleled. If you guys are loving HotD, you will not be disappointed by diving head first into GoT.
A massive amount of Hector’s commentary in every episode is “I hope you die, I hope you die”
Yeah Odrin, if you don't like it, if it's not up to snuff, you don't have to watch. Thanks.
@@hectorminator Ok? I'm actually a fan of the channel. Am I not allowed to state how I feel honestly?
@@TheOdrinSearchParty you’re certainly free to express how you feel. But if these reactions aren’t up to your standard, that’s fine, you don’t have to watch them. Why would you watch something you don’t think is good? Other than to purposefully be negative?
@@hectorminator I have an answer to that, I just don't want to say it because I think you'll be offended by it.
@@TheOdrinSearchParty by all means.
This episode was 100% a bunch of men going just drop the nuke and Alicent, Rhaenyra trying to keep things in check
Well that's basically actual history
Hector calling out the rage comments before fingers hit the keyboard is such a mood 😂😂
We briefly saw Gwayne Hightower in the first episode of the series. He’s in armor the whole time and played by a stunt performer, Daemon knocks him off his horse during the jousting tournament
Poor Diana going unnoticed again. The servant that was sent away by Alicent in season one with silver and the moon tea. After Aegon ... She's the one the guy tipped for ale (and slapped) The one at Ulf's left. She was also seen terrified while serving Aegon but he didn't recognize her. (he was to focused on his squire throwing peanuts at him)
I noticed her! I caught it in a different reaction video. I had to rewind to make sure lol.
@@yassinemiri3555 I didn't notice that at all.
@@gabriellehanson2423 Good job, but a bet the reactor didn’t. Poor Diana. One character that I never thought I would have a follow up to.
@@kaykay3481Neither did Aegon (thank god) don’t need to relive “that”. A hair dress and a uniform does change a person. 😅
@@yassinemiri3555 you are correct. The reactor did not notice lol
the rule of GOT: if you want them dead, they gonna survive for a while, if you like them, they're gonna die in the next episode.
Alys Rivers is a Woods Witch. Daemon was standing by a Heart’s Tree, where the Old Gods live.
there’s really nothing alicent can do to stop the war from happening. which is so tragic bc at the dinner scene with viserys she said rhaenyra would make a fine queen one day. also, that throne was 100% getting usurped by otto the moment viserys died like…he’d been scheming since the day rhaenyra got named the heir.
"Usurped" might be a little too much there. He's always wanted to wield power but even he could never have planned for Viserys to not have a male child nor Aemma's death, which was the only way he could get Alicent there. That opportunity presented itself but otherwise he probably would have been content being the Hand of whoever followed. That's what makes it a twisted just deserts that he got fired twice after putting in so much work just to stay there.
@@douglas2938 No, "usurped" IS the correct word. When Alicent tells the council about what she believes is Viserys' last wish, she finds out that Otto and the council had been planning to take the throne for Aegon anyway, it's just now they have a better story. If Viserys changed his mind before he died, then it isn't usurpation after all, which makes them all very happy. AND, not only was he planning to take the throne anyway, but on top of that he commands the lord commander of the Kingsguard to go to Dragonstone and kill Rhaenyra, Daemon, and all their children before anyone can be told Viserys is dead. The lord commander refuses and resigns on the spot, then he and Erryk flee the Red Keep (after Erryk steals Viserys' crown back).
The thing is, the war was always going to happen, no matter what Alicent heard that night, because Otto already had a plan in place. Go back and watch episode 9 and you will see that.
@@Skye_Writer Again, that's not "since the day rhaenyra got named the heir"
Otto wants power but there's no need to give him more credit than he deserves for opportunities that fell into his lap.
@@douglas2938 i’ll admit i said “since the day she was named heir” as an exaggeration but i also think you’re underestimating otto’s ambition to get his blood on the throne. the closest he got to accept rhaenyra as the heir was when he proposed to viserys a marriage between nyra and aegon, which personally i think would’ve solved a lot of problems.
@@lu-kp4pn I don't question Otto's ambition but I think people give him way too much credit for simply seizing whatever opportunity comes up. Had he been as prescient, he would have Cole under his thumb, for instance.
The cut to the battle aftermath is so haunting especially since the immediate next stop is the buried twins, reinforces the two-close-sides-needlessly-warring feeling
1:28 Hector either watches things ahead of time, knows information beforehand, or makes very lucky predictions, because he tends to make very “educated” guesses often 😂
I don't think you needed to be a fortune teller to smell that incoming blood bath.
The lonely dragon belonged to Laenor, Rhaenyra's last husband who they sent to Essos. So the look of concern might mean Rhaenyra thinking he's dead, or that "lonely" means the dragon is looking for a new rider and she needs to make sure they're on her side.
As a vfx artist, I really appreciate you guys mentioning that you know VFX is involved in nearly every shot and generally giving good critics and not praising practical FX by crapping all over VFX.
Hector watches this show in the same way I do “I hate this guy, and this guy, and this guy” anything Cole opens his mouth I’m yelling at the tv.
The story wasn't written down or shared because its a sacred prophecy
Isn’t it inscribed in the catspaw dagger?
@@eld2310 Yes it is but only fire reveals it, otherwise it's just a Velaryian steel dagger.
It is written down and shared, it's inscribed on the Catspaw dagger but only fire reveals it so no one but the King and their Heir know of the prophecy, Viserys showed Rhaenyra the dagger when he named her Heir, it's been many years so she's likely forgotten it's on there, plus Aegon has it at this point.
moral of the story: never name your son after another person in the families long family tree where every other son is named Aegon
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Honestly think that deep down Alicent was clinging to the idea that Viserys changed his mind so she can have a piece of mind but it’s dumb. This man was sick out of his mind and she just fed him drugs I don’t understand how she would “misunderstand” him.
Remember guys, Harrenhal might be empty, but Harrenhal is the main castle of the region, and who ever runs Harrenhal is the overall Lord of the region, and the lords of the other noble houses around Harrenhal pledged loyalty to Harrenhal, so who ever gets Harrenhal on their side, gets a huge army combined of soldiers from every noble house around Harrenhal.
To quote Rhys Ifans, the actor who plays Otto Hightower when aske if he was Team Black or Green: "Both sides are genocidal, crazy war criminals. So I think we should all enjoy seeing how they die.”
For me the reason I can't stand Cole THIS much, is how likable he was when we first got to know him in S1 as Rhaenyra's lover. And then getting that 180. And now he's doing exactly the same, punishes others for the exact same things he's doing. Compared to Jeoffrey who was just evil throughout, almost comically, and we just wait for the comeuppance, to watch him die.
Ooo interesting take of the dragon being lonely Hector, I maybe took it as Misarya knowing Leanor isn’t dead and Rhaenyra was thrown by that comment, but I can see it how you said it as well
I love the humor you guys find while watching this often disturbing and violent show. There are so many people to dislike and it can be hard to watch but I laugh a lot watching your reactions. I hope episode four is as epic as people are predicting
To answer Adams question on Velaryian steel, how items are forged is a mystery as it's secrets were lost when Velyria was destroyed, so it's impossible to forge anything new, you can reforge a Velaryian steel sword but its a very hard process, it is thought that magic and dragons fire were used but that can't be confirmed, what is known is it's very strong but light, and in the case of bladed weapons the blade will remain sharp forever, it's also very expensive, Many of the Noble houses have a Velaryian steel weapon mostly swords that get passed down the family line.
I like how it's pulled from real world history. Specifically, Damascus steel. We can approximate it and recreate the look with modern tech but we have no idea how they did it. It was stronger than anything else at the time and the swords wouldnt dull
I started watching this show because I wanted to see more dragons, I'm keep watching because of the dialogues.
Rhaenys and Corlys, Rhaenyra and Alicent, Rhaenyra and Daemon last episode, and Otto and Aegon/Criston also last episode, there are so many insanely great written and acted dialogues this season!
But since we're mid-season now I guess there will be something big happening within the next two episode which can further escalate into the finale.
Yes there are witches in game of thrones. That's Alys Rivers. She's important
I just want to know how they will handle her and aemonds son
@@leeshropshire6346 same. And, eventually, the "dragon in harrenhall" 👀
@@leeshropshire6346yo keep it spoiler free for the guys and others who don’t know that stuff yet
@@gretchenmeinzen9962 my theory on that is it’s either some magic shit illusion/necromancy or she used blood magic to bind either silverwing or the cannibal to her son
I'm loving catching ya'll's reaction to this series! So often you have similar comments to what I say to my fiancé as we watch it hahaha
I'm loving the implicit support the women leaders have shown to each other on both sides. Definitely signs of what a matriarchy might have looke like in Westeros.
God what a stupid idiot you are you act like women do not rule in the world let me tell you they do and they are no different than men you know why because we are all humans and women supporting each other in this show at that time is the least realistic thing i have see people were ruthless and bloodthirsty and did not think about feminism for sure in medieval ages
In ASOIAF there are what is called a Woods Witch. They’re mostly in the North and they follow the old gods. Mostly they work as midwives and healers but some are said to have visions.
That being said this is likely Alys Rivers, also known as the Witch Queen, who was known to have visions and was a bastard of House Strong at Harrenhall
The Song of Ice and Fire, if you’ll recall is etched into the blade that Aegon II carries with him. They have no idea (the Greens) of any of this. Because it is only passed down to the person who will inherit the throne. It was in season one I think episode one or two.
That blade appears in GOT .
Love the ending . It was too late for Alicent to turn back. She’ll probably get beheaded if she try to stop the war. It’s too far gone now to stop it. Now the show begins!! Dance of dragons!!
I’m surprised how much I like the writing this season given the fact that this show started filming right as the writers strike occurred. They just had to go with what they had, with no writers to help edit and change things on set.
Actually they were not working under the United States Actors and Writers Guilds, they work under the United Kingdom’s Guilds, so they were free of strikes restrictions. It’s the only reason why we got the season this year.
They should draw their family tree in circle at this point
Baela and Rhaena are Daemon's daughters. Not Laenor. Also yes we "see" Ser Gwayne in season 1 at the tourney (just not his face).
I dislike Sir Criston Cole but I hate that haircut even more!
"I hate the way you talk to me
And the way you cut your hair
I hate the way you drive my car
I hate it when you stare" popped in my head. 😅
@@FrolleinMiez Wasnt expecting Hector to start spitting like that.
Looks like the Caesar cut
I think the chances of any show ever getting the kind of cultural chokehold of GoT again is very slim
“Fancy boy pantsie man”
I’m 😵
23:20 the knife has the song of ice and fire story, the dream of aegon the conqueror, Inscribed on it. When the king showed her last season when the knife had been sitting in fire.
My thing is the evidence is literally on the dagger that Aegon is twirling around
The Targaryen and Velaryon families are the two great houses that both originate from Ancient Valyria and came over to Westeros with Aegon the Conqueror many generations ago after the fall of Valyria. This connection with the ancient homeland of the dragons is why Velaryons are the only other family that can bond with dragons and why their house is so close with the Targeryons.
As for Valyrian steel, think of it like Mythril. It is an ancient smithing technique from Ancient Valyria that has been lost to ages. It is the strongest manufactured material known to man. Despite no one being able to create it anymore, there are a handful of master smiths that are able to rework existing Valyrian steel into new forms. You see this more on the OG GOT, where there is a Valyrian steel great sword that is melted down and reforged into two new swords.
Is Velaryian steel like Beskar?
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: No
You guys have become my favorite House of the dragon react channel. But ya'll should stand and clap before and after every episode for at least 10min.
lol
The woman Daemon saw is named Alys Rivers, and yes she is a witch. She's one of the more mysterious characters in this universe as no one knows who or what she really is. It is believed by some that she may even be over 400 years old and uses dark magic to keep herself young. I'm excited for this show to explore the more mystical elements of this world's lore.
Idk if you guys know this but Milly alcock has indeed been casted as DC's Supergirl/Kara.
You asked if we have seen witches idk but in GOT we seen a woman conjure a shadow demon that killed a guy soooo I think so lol
The next episode is called Dance of Dragons so I think we’ll finally see dragons fighting. Good call about Seasmoke being lonely without a rider - however the show is different from the book in that Laenor (Seasmoke’s rider) is actually dead so Seasmoke would be free to find another rider. In the show they softened it up so as not to besmirch Rhaenyra by letting Laenor live and have a happy ending. His dragon should still be bonded to him even from afar and would most likely go find him.
The meeting at the end was that they both now realize what was truly said BUT is now way too late. 😮🤨
Also, the viewing at the bar is still going cuz they have a you tube reaction channel for HOTD. It was the same channel for GOT. GRRM actually recently stop by for a visit.🤩
Great reaction! Thanks!🙂
Yep, it's SeanTankTop's channel.
The meeting was just completely stupid and them just ruining this story still
the reason the black family and the targaryans have white hair if because they are the two remaining familys from old verlyria
There are magic users and witches in this world, though you would be surprised by people's concern over that in GOT. I mean, there are dragons for goodness sake.
But what is interesting about this character is that no one really knows what she is or who she is, but last names of bastard children are from the area they are from, so where Harrenhal is, Rivers. But like the book doesn't settle it either.
It’s not a spoiler to answer your question about witches. The answer would be. In the game of thrones universe magic, in all forms, is very *very* real. Anything else gets into spoiler territory so hopefully that satisfies your curiosity on that point for now!
(I know people are getting on you guys for these reviews. But as someone who has read all the books, watched all the shows, and deeply loves this universe, to me it’s interesting to see you being introduced to it. It provides a very different perspective and I hope you consider also reacting to the original Game of Thrones show at some point!)
Malesandre was the Red Witch!
I believe they have only seen the first season of GOT, so they wouldn't have seen her.
Hector is my spirit animal for real 🫶
There is no place anywhere and at any time to wish harm to a person/actor for a role they are playing. If they are doing such a great job as portraying someone that you can hate what you should do is wish them well for doing a fantastic job of portraying somebody who is so vile. But don’t threaten an actual human being doing a job because you don’t like the character he’s doing exactly what he’s being paid to do make the character the most hated thing on television.
Are there witches? Yes, she was a witch, Alys Rivers
You guys really don't understand the hate that Cristin Cole gets? Not the actor, it's stupid to send him threats because of his character, but Cole is such a vile character. It's not just what happened with the twins. It's every damn thing he does. I find him so much worse than Aemond.
gwayne was in ep 1 of the show his face just wasnt shown, he fought against daemon in the tourney
I'd love for you guys to watch through GoT. The jokes about some of the silliness of the world is great... such as the names... so much could be avoided in this world if they just used unique names for royalty lmao. But seasons 1-5 are such good television as well... season 6 and 7 have their moments as well. To one day watch you guys experience and learn the history of the Weirwood trees, Harenhall, etc.... it would be dope.
@@sosayweall2509 Yep!
Now don't get me wrong, I can't stand Christian Cole but the actor is doing a good job. But to threaten him that low and pathetic.
Yes.
“Witches” are a thing in GOT.
Remember “the red woman” who spoke and saw things in the flames?
And yes that dark haired mysterious woman is someone with a certain set of skills. 😜
alicent’s brother was in season 1 episode 1
now how did you mix Baela up with Rhaena when Rhaena's only storyline in this series is that she doesn't have a dragon? kfdsjf
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Because for them all black people look the same
@@HeroesReforgedthey are daemons daughter not laenors
@@Rash23215 Sure, but you saw our comment with the timestamp explaining how we could lose track of one character, yes?
Say what you will about Larys he’s the master of manifesting success
ok this is a longass comment so get ready
its not that erryk and arryk were beloved, people are just annoyed criston caused their deaths by acting like he wasnt fucking alicent down the hall instead of doing his job. he pretended arryk was suspicious to avoid acknowledging that its his fault. the character is always going around trying to make other people feel small just because he feels small, and he only feels small because he was stupid enough to think rhaenyra would run away with him. his whole hate for her is based entirely on his actions but he blames her. he is a very pathetic man who refuses to acknowledge his own flaws. add in psychotic people who cant separate actor from character, and you get threats on social media.
the hate for aemond is funny to me because i like aemond the most. specifically because hes such a little weirdo. hes like an anime character lmao its so cartoonish, I LOVE IT. i find it entertaining the same way a fast and furious movie is entertaining. it tickles that dumb 10 year old boy part of your brain that never fully goes away and loves excessively stylized things
daemon's second wife was corlys and rhaenys daughter who died trying to give birth. he has two children from her. rhaenyra was married to corlys and rhaenys son, and had 3 illegitimate children during that marriage. then rhaenyra and daemon had two more children when they married each other, plus one that died at birth. one of rhaenyras sons died when aemond attacked on his dragon, so between daemon and rhaenyra they have 6 children remaining. the two she had with daemon are the two youngest, and those are the two she sent away with daemon's other daughter, along with her youngest child from her second marriage.
valyrian steel is supposed to be like beskar, yes. lightweight and incredibly durable, the weapons stay sharp for centuries. valyria is an empire that was destroyed by some unspecified distaster, before the events of either show. they had metalworking processes that were secret and involved magic in some way, so when their civilization was gone, the knowledge of how to forge the steel was lost. george rr martin prefers magic systems that arent super defined/clearly understood in universe, and are more creepy and sacrificial and bloody and inconsistent and weird, so there arent like easily found spellbooks and shit. a big status symbol for houses in westeros is having valyrian steel weapons or armor that they pass down, because theyre literally priceless, since they cant be replicated anymore. best you can hope for is to maybe melt one down and reshape it but its extremely hard to find someone who can even manage that.
the targaryens are one of only a couple families that left valyria before it was destroyed. the velaryons are another. the targaryens actually left valyria because one of them had a vision that valyria was going to be destroyed. the story rhaenyras father was saying on his deathbed was another vision/dream by another targaryen, and thats probably why it wasnt recorded more officially. maybe they thought if it was more well known, thered be some self fulfilling prophecy stuff going on? idk.
alicent was just acknowledging that even if they told everyone it was all a misunderstanding, it wouldnt matter at this point. theyre both surrounded by bloodthirsty people with longstanding grudges, as mentioned by rhaenys at the start of the episode. alicent has no real authority, and things are already in motion because of the actual murders/attempted murders that have been done.
the thing with the dragons behavior is that there is a bond between the dragon and whoever is currently its rider. they respond to how the rider feels, but are also living weapons of mass destruction that cant be fully controlled. thats why aemond couldnt call off his dragon when he was chasing luke. even if he just meant to scare him, there is still real anger in aemond about losing his eye, and the way that they (including his brother, as seen in this episode) used to tease him for being such a little weirdo as a kid, and the dragon responded to that anger. the dragons are on edge because the people theyre bonded with are on edge. as an aside, this is part of why i dont mind aemond too much. he lost his eye because daemons daughters felt he stole their mothers dragon, but it doesnt work like that. they dont get passed down through families. then they fought him 4v1 and pulled out a knife...he wasnt blameless in that interaction because he did antagonize them by calling rhaenyras sons bastards, but i would say he was more justified than they were.
THANKS for this!!!!
Of course, Alicent is so stupid that she didn’t decide to end the war right in the sept) it’s strange that she didn’t go and tell all her irritated children - guys, let’s finish) it’s strange that she didn’t personally force everyone to lay down their heads to be cut off, because it’s unlikely that they will leave presumed heirs to Damon alive. In general, such a strange woman. That's definitely why I'm on Team Green. 😹
Pretty sure Melisandre was a witch 😂😂😂
Laenor are Baela and Rhaenas Uncle!
I like magic
How come all these dragon riders have saddles and in game of thrones Dany didn;t use one.....how did she even stay on? lol
because she didn’t want one i guess. in the book she only rode drogon once and it’s because she had to or she would’ve died. also she got injured riding him so in the future she might get a saddle.
Bad writing.
The idea I think is that since she was raised in exile and with dragons long thought extinct they forgot a lot of the things related to their care
Hector, your reactions are priceless and never end your war with the comment section. The haters deserve it.
So you guys are working your way through HotD with all of us, but you're NOT going to touch Game of Thrones, despite it being the greatest syndicated TV drama of all time? Even in your down time, away from UA-cam?
alicent is now without power. otto banished. ser pretty boy is half gone. ser footsie switched allegiance already. even if she wanted to call a halt... last season GoT viewers like 45 million. this season hotd close to 12 million. twitter acct westerosies posting latest stats.
First! Loving this season so far!
Estoy arta de q esta serie dicen q las mujeres no quieren guerra solo los hombres 🤷 q tiene de malo q las mujeres quieran guerra y defender lo suyo
The throne was usurped, there was already a plan to not let Rahenyra ascend even if there had not been the misunderstanding about the name Aegon, the meeting and the most unnecessary scene in the entire history of the GOT universe.
YES MI LORD
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