Phenomenal attention to detail, with the explanation of why things done that way. To include past learning and evolving into better ways of doing things👊
I like the way you measured for the rake back and the downspout I always measure the soffit and subtract 7 so a 27” soffit will be a 20” rake back, I usually double seal my miters, meaning run sealer on the miter and then on the inside where you can see the joints meeting up
There's a UA-cam channel royal gutters and Thier rule of thumb is if you install gutters when there is snow it will be a disaster in the summer when the aluminum gutter will expand in the heat so definitely a no go to do gutters in this weather especially in Oregon
Absolute professional! I just started a new job as an installer and this video really helped me learn a lot of new tips and tricks. Liked and subbed man great work!
Thanks for the great content! I'm hoping to get started in the spring and I'm currently putting together a business plan. I have a couple probably very obvious, noobie questions that are probably too basic to cover in a video. If anyone in the comments has any advice to how to build the best rig and create the smoothest workflow, please let me know. 1) Any big difference between the Ironman and Ironman Jr KWM machines? It looks like you can fit a full size 5/6 in your rig. Is that a extended/long cargo van? Do you need the extra couple feet in the van to operate with a full coil? I'm looking at a Chevy 2500 Extended Wheelbase to build my rig. The junior is smaller but how's the performance? 2) When starting out, is it best to buy full coils of white and cut to size for each job? Can you buy 20-100lbs of coil of a specific color per job? I'm having a nightmare of a time finding a local building supply that carries gutter coil. Looks like the closest distributor is about 90 miles away. Will the coil run okay if I cut 350lb coil into thirds and feed through ~100lb sections?? Easier to manage that way. 3) How'd you get your gutter machine into your rig? 1,400lbs is heavy. Did you find a custom fab company or do you have something like a shop crane? 4) Are downspouts sold in standard fabricated lengths? What if you are running a downspout for a two story house? Join two gutters by crimping one end? 5) The biggest local guy in my area is running .032 Al as a standard for residential and commercial. He's expensive so I expect it's probably a marketing thing. Any reason why .027 wouldn't work for residential? I assume that's what most everyone uses. Or are you using .032 gauge Al for your residential jobs too? 6) I watched the pricing video you fellas posted not too long ago. Is that $7-$9/ft pretty standard? I got three quotes over the past 1.5 years for my house. All three quoted 40ft and 1 downspout over $1,000. That's what got me to start looking into starting a seamless gutter business. Feels like there's a lot of work out there for a reasonably priced alternative. Anyways, I appreciate the work your doing. I really admire anybody out there working for themselves. Making these videos is probably a real hassle so thanks for the effort.
1) I've never been around a JR machine and have always been recommended against them for full time use. For a van. the minimum for me is 12' long so downspout boxes fit easily 2) I would recommend spin offs which are coils bought for each job. easier to deal with. Used to be a price break on full coils. None of my suppliers have this any more 3) I have a fork lift. My first machine ever, I used a cherry picker for engines. Consider just renting a forklift for a day 4)10' is standard. Yes, crimp ends to make a joint 5) in my area, .027 is standard. .032 is an upgrade for 12" coil. .032 is standard for 15" coil 6)We are around $10 per ft for standard 5" k style. price goes up from there. kinda sounds like 6" gutter pricing maybe? Thanks for your comment! Good luck with your research
Small jobs there can be a base or sent up cost that make thwm expensive. As someone that's started and run multiple businesses I've seen countless people think thwy can do it cheaper than the going rate. If three companies gave similar rates that's what it costs to run a company to do it. I bet you didn't even check for workman's comp or workmanship insurance. " Liabilty doesn't cover the work done. Go for it, but you goal should be to charge more than the competition. If you're doing that you can give an old couple a half off whenever you want.
Would like to see inside of where your screwing gutter to facia, I usually put gutter inside under, drip edge, then on down spout edge where I put flow I put a strip of metal so water wount get behind gutter and drip edge....
There's a UA-cam channel royal gutters and Thier rule of thumb is if you install gutters when there is snow it will be a disaster in the summer when the aluminum gutter will expand in the heat so definitely a no go to do gutters in this weather especially in Oregon
I've watched a few of your videos where you install gutters on a property with metal and have a rookie question. Are the gutters you have coming out of the machine made out of aluminum or some type of steel (i.e. galvanized steel)? I noticed the screws you use with the rubber washes are steel screws, so I assumed the gutters are some type of steel too so you are not mixing metals? Thanks!
Here in Michigan there are several gutter installers that have people believing that it's not good to put gutters up in the winter, obviously, you don't agree with that and neither do I. How far apart do you put your hangers?
Excellent vid. A couple questions: 1. did you screw the gutter to the metal facia or down below to the wood? 2. what type of screws did you use? Lastly, you said the roof is plumbed but if it was not, what type of wedge do you recommend using for a metal facia like this one?
You said it's okay to put the gutter on top of the metal drip edge? In another you said you put the gutter under the drip edge. Is one option for metal roofing and the other for shingles? Thank you
And it's only okay to put your gutter on the drip edge on steep metal roofs. If you have a low pitched metal roof or any type of shingle, we highly recommend putting it under the drip edge
Same as a home as long as you have a fascia metal or wood if there is not a fascia you will have to hang from the roof with hangtite hangers with clip and a strap over the top of the roof running screw through roof, strap and hanger solid as screwed through the fascia
Great video, Buuuuuut to the un trained eye. My man installed the wrong gutter system🙃!!!!!!!!!!! That roof is every bit over a 7 pitch🤦♂️6 inch gutters required.
Omgosh lmao lol.... Why don't you get a 100 foot real and mount it on top of your machine and hook it on the outside end cap and the way you go. then you don't have to snip the back of the gutter, pretty dangerous if someone slices there hands of fingers
Measure from the top of the fascia board where the angle is farthest out. If you measure from the bottom you piece of gutter will not be big enough your corner is going to sit on the top right below the drip edge or stop right underneath the drip edge so start your measurement from the top where its farthest out😢
Why don't you take a ferrule and smash one end and use it as a spreader for the calk instead of using your fingers. You can go the whole day with one smashed ferrule.. :)
Does anyone in Denver want to start a gutter business? Reach out to me. I almost started a business 10 years ago but the partner flaked. Im a contractor so this would be a side business. 25 years experience on houses.
This install knows what he's doing / I've been in the Gutter buz since 1977 / The ONLY part I do not agree with / he uses Raytect Hangers / and it snows there / Raytect has one of the weakest hangers on the market / and I can prove that in court / there are SNOW hangers from Lynch Aluminum / it's called / " Heavy Duty Brute" / ANY INSTALLER THAT HANGS IN SNOW / use this and there will be NO call backs due to weak hangers.
This hurts to watch. Stand in front of the gutter not in back of it. Those words that you're butting play your gutter up too is called a rakeboard. The hangars are called hang fast not hang tight
“measure twice, cut once” was one of the first things my grandma told me when teaching me to sew. It’s great advice.
I’m a gutter guy also and love everything this guy did. 💯
appreciate you!
I had a gutter fall and im so glad i found your video with your complete detail on everything you did. Thanks MrGutter!!
Pretty fascinating, and impressive that you did everything solo 💪🏽
Phenomenal attention to detail, with the explanation of why things done that way. To include past learning and evolving into better ways of doing things👊
I like the way you measured for the rake back and the downspout I always measure the soffit and subtract 7 so a 27” soffit will be a 20” rake back, I usually double seal my miters, meaning run sealer on the miter and then on the inside where you can see the joints meeting up
Thank you for packing so much info about every detail of this video. This is super insightful!
I'm happy to see that your hanging gutters in the winter. Good to see we're not the only ones working through winter. Appreciate the content
There's a UA-cam channel royal gutters and Thier rule of thumb is if you install gutters when there is snow it will be a disaster in the summer when the aluminum gutter will expand in the heat so definitely a no go to do gutters in this weather especially in Oregon
Absolute professional!
I just started a new job as an installer and this video really helped me learn a lot of new tips and tricks.
Liked and subbed man great work!
You've helped me quite a bit dude. Thank you!
Thanks for the experience you are giving.
You make it look so easy and they look really nice. I wish you were in Mississippi so I could hire you to install new gutters.
This video is pure gold!
10/10 make more of these longer ones
Well rounded tutorial 👌🏼 I wish we could work through the winter, but here we measure snow in feet…
awesome! where at?
@@StartARainGutterBusiness Soldotna, AK
thank you very much for this video it help my project allot...
Very helpful and interesting video . I enjoy watching quality craftsmanship . Well done , thank you .
Thanks for the great content! I'm hoping to get started in the spring and I'm currently putting together a business plan. I have a couple probably very obvious, noobie questions that are probably too basic to cover in a video. If anyone in the comments has any advice to how to build the best rig and create the smoothest workflow, please let me know.
1) Any big difference between the Ironman and Ironman Jr KWM machines? It looks like you can fit a full size 5/6 in your rig. Is that a extended/long cargo van? Do you need the extra couple feet in the van to operate with a full coil? I'm looking at a Chevy 2500 Extended Wheelbase to build my rig. The junior is smaller but how's the performance?
2) When starting out, is it best to buy full coils of white and cut to size for each job? Can you buy 20-100lbs of coil of a specific color per job? I'm having a nightmare of a time finding a local building supply that carries gutter coil. Looks like the closest distributor is about 90 miles away. Will the coil run okay if I cut 350lb coil into thirds and feed through ~100lb sections?? Easier to manage that way.
3) How'd you get your gutter machine into your rig? 1,400lbs is heavy. Did you find a custom fab company or do you have something like a shop crane?
4) Are downspouts sold in standard fabricated lengths? What if you are running a downspout for a two story house? Join two gutters by crimping one end?
5) The biggest local guy in my area is running .032 Al as a standard for residential and commercial. He's expensive so I expect it's probably a marketing thing. Any reason why .027 wouldn't work for residential? I assume that's what most everyone uses. Or are you using .032 gauge Al for your residential jobs too?
6) I watched the pricing video you fellas posted not too long ago. Is that $7-$9/ft pretty standard? I got three quotes over the past 1.5 years for my house. All three quoted 40ft and 1 downspout over $1,000. That's what got me to start looking into starting a seamless gutter business. Feels like there's a lot of work out there for a reasonably priced alternative.
Anyways, I appreciate the work your doing. I really admire anybody out there working for themselves. Making these videos is probably a real hassle so thanks for the effort.
1) I've never been around a JR machine and have always been recommended against them for full time use. For a van. the minimum for me is 12' long so downspout boxes fit easily
2) I would recommend spin offs which are coils bought for each job. easier to deal with. Used to be a price break on full coils. None of my suppliers have this any more
3) I have a fork lift. My first machine ever, I used a cherry picker for engines. Consider just renting a forklift for a day
4)10' is standard. Yes, crimp ends to make a joint
5) in my area, .027 is standard. .032 is an upgrade for 12" coil. .032 is standard for 15" coil
6)We are around $10 per ft for standard 5" k style. price goes up from there. kinda sounds like 6" gutter pricing maybe?
Thanks for your comment! Good luck with your research
Small jobs there can be a base or sent up cost that make thwm expensive.
As someone that's started and run multiple businesses I've seen countless people think thwy can do it cheaper than the going rate. If three companies gave similar rates that's what it costs to run a company to do it. I bet you didn't even check for workman's comp or workmanship insurance. " Liabilty doesn't cover the work done.
Go for it, but you goal should be to charge more than the competition. If you're doing that you can give an old couple a half off whenever you want.
I think the ice and snow sliding off that metal roof will rip that gutter off in the Spring. Seems to happen a lot here in Maine.
Try caulking knifes they change your life. One of those "why didnt i do this years ago", offset help in constrained area like gutters.
So satisfying to watch! You’re a great teacher with attention to detail
I’ve got you as a friend on fb I believe. I been looking into doing something like the help you provide
Would like to see inside of where your screwing gutter to facia, I usually put gutter inside under, drip edge, then on down spout edge where I put flow I put a strip of metal so water wount get behind gutter and drip edge....
Did you really install the eavestrough (gutter) over top of the drip edge?
There's a UA-cam channel royal gutters and Thier rule of thumb is if you install gutters when there is snow it will be a disaster in the summer when the aluminum gutter will expand in the heat so definitely a no go to do gutters in this weather especially in Oregon
youtube.com/@royalgutters
We are in Montana and Know snow well ;)
Thanks so much!!
steel roof. sliding snow? I had a lot of work end up on the ground first snowfall
I've watched a few of your videos where you install gutters on a property with metal and have a rookie question. Are the gutters you have coming out of the machine made out of aluminum or some type of steel (i.e. galvanized steel)? I noticed the screws you use with the rubber washes are steel screws, so I assumed the gutters are some type of steel too so you are not mixing metals? Thanks!
There is a galvanic scale you can search for. Steel and aluminum are close on the scale, so they are ok together for a certain lifespan
Here in Michigan there are several gutter installers that have people believing that it's not good to put gutters up in the winter, obviously, you don't agree with that and neither do I. How far apart do you put your hangers?
How well are those going to hold up to the sliding snow? I have a steel roof myself that needs gutters, so thanks for the video.
He uses the hangtite hangers looks like no clips and just one hanger will hold 250 lbs so unless it just slides down fast it will hold up great
Drop thw techical on haters whining on caulk dams. "Once the caulking flashes off the solvent it will be flat"
Excellent vid. A couple questions: 1. did you screw the gutter to the metal facia or down below to the wood? 2. what type of screws did you use? Lastly, you said the roof is plumbed but if it was not, what type of wedge do you recommend using for a metal facia like this one?
I use t wedge from truss products out of texas
How do you feel about this industry as a part time gig? My thought is it to be used as a supplemental income while one goes to school, etc. Thanks!
Great but once you start doing this job it becomes a career that you will love
You said it's okay to put the gutter on top of the metal drip edge? In another you said you put the gutter under the drip edge. Is one option for metal roofing and the other for shingles? Thank you
And it's only okay to put your gutter on the drip edge on steep metal roofs. If you have a low pitched metal roof or any type of shingle, we highly recommend putting it under the drip edge
@@StartARainGutterBusiness Thank you! Okay will do! My first gutter install will be next week!
How can I hang a gutter on a metal garage.
Same as a home as long as you have a fascia metal or wood if there is not a fascia you will have to hang from the roof with hangtite hangers with clip and a strap over the top of the roof running screw through roof, strap and hanger solid as screwed through the fascia
Great video, Buuuuuut to the un trained eye. My man installed the wrong gutter system🙃!!!!!!!!!!! That roof is every bit over a 7 pitch🤦♂️6 inch gutters required.
What thickness of material do you use?
.027 aluminum usually
Industry standard is .027
What I'd like to know, is , how do you join together gutters on a 155 degree angle bay windows, and I've got 8 windows angles to deal with ???
If you use strip miters. get some bay miters. If not, I have a video on making a corner
@@StartARainGutterBusiness Thanks, I just did that ;>)
Strip mitres are for people who have no idea how to do eavestrough.
Omgosh lmao lol.... Why don't you get a 100 foot real and mount it on top of your machine and hook it on the outside end cap and the way you go. then you don't have to snip the back of the gutter, pretty dangerous if someone slices there hands of fingers
What's eavesthrogh you mean eavesdrop , where water falls into gutter....explain I might be miss reading
It's a dropout that is put in a gutter that hangs above another where the water will fall into bottom gutter and drain out thru its downspouts
Might be too high…snow has to flow past over gutter…
Can you share what sealant you use?
Goecel 2320! You can find a link in the description
My roof outside corner is angled (both sides are angled). It is a trick to put a gutter there. Any suggestions? Thank you.
Measure from the top of the fascia board where the angle is farthest out. If you measure from the bottom you piece of gutter will not be big enough your corner is going to sit on the top right below the drip edge or stop right underneath the drip edge so start your measurement from the top where its farthest out😢
Why don't you take a ferrule and smash one end and use it as a spreader for the calk instead of using your fingers. You can go the whole day with one smashed ferrule.. :)
Exactly what I use. Then you don’t have to change gloves to handle your gutters.
Does anyone in Denver want to start a gutter business? Reach out to me. I almost started a business 10 years ago but the partner flaked. Im a contractor so this would be a side business. 25 years experience on houses.
You could use a metric tape and avoid having to deal with feet and inches.
Haha
This install knows what he's doing / I've been in the Gutter buz since 1977 / The ONLY part I do not agree with / he uses Raytect Hangers / and it snows there / Raytect has one of the weakest hangers on the market / and I can prove that in court / there are SNOW hangers from Lynch Aluminum / it's called / " Heavy Duty Brute" / ANY INSTALLER THAT HANGS IN SNOW / use this and there will be NO call backs due to weak hangers.
Ill look into them! thanks!
Well, there's my answer to my question? I should have read the comments before I asked 😊
Raytec hangers are the best in the market
Lol, raytec are some of the strongest on the market
Look into Lynch Aluminum / the hangers are called / Heavy Duty Brute there stronger and a stress test can prove it @@joshmatthewson7154
This hurts to watch. Stand in front of the gutter not in back of it. Those words that you're butting play your gutter up too is called a rakeboard. The hangars are called hang fast not hang tight
A lot of your information is terrible
What is the drop for a 30 ft gutter? I see all kinds of different answers!! Great videos by the way.
I usually do a 1/8th inch off the line on the level from the high end to the low end