DIY Guide To Installing Gutters
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- Опубліковано 6 лис 2023
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You can save $100's or even $1,000's by installing your own gutters. Most homeowners could take on this type of project with a little research and a fair amount of work. I will walk you through the complete process of installing gutters on a detached garage by getting materials from the local home improvement store.
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I admire people like him with manual skills. People in this type of business are smart.
I gotta make a vid. Been doing gutter for about 23 years. Not the way I've ever done seamed when i have. No point in going with 6in unless you get 3x4s or 4x5 downs. Mitre saw works best if you haven't cut em by hand before too. Seal between pieces also on overlaps. Dont put sealer on the end caps until after you attach them. Malco crimps are preferable but rivets or even stitch screws will work. Personally, ruscoe 12-3 or geocel elastomeric aluminum seam sealer is best, last decades, literally. Those hangers have a tendency to pull the face of the gutter in unevenly if you aren't extra careful. That impact will definitely over torque them. No need for that much drop per ft. Not once in 23 r so years have i used a chalk line, always use a level! Very rare even for even new construction to be perfectly level so measuring down, like this old house shows, is just flawed. Assume you dont have an x style downspout punch so id recommend tracing an elbow and pushing a knife thru to make an X. Can drill a hole at each corner and then use a cutting wheel im sure. Gives you tabs to attach to and dont have extra rivets catching leaves. That low spot over the window is where i would have the gutters high spot and level off of that. See how that piece looks like its low on the right end? No need for that. Make it as level as possible but with a bit of drain. Just looks better! And no need to check for plumb on a down. The homeowner is gonna notice the "reveal" next to the down when on the corner of the building. But for diy, good job. Lol
This is good and better advice
Where’s the vid! Come on, lazy bones!
The whole installation make a lot of sense. Great work and thank you for sharing
I really like the overlap and then pop rivet idea for the seams.
To avoid the swale when putting the gutter on, you could try temporarily clamping a 1x3 on the front of the gutter to support it.
Great guide, thanks! For longer runs one man show, attaching both ends first may lead to bowing in the middle as raising the sag in the middle will be pushing against the fixed ends when lifted.
Good point 👍
Your timing is perfect... I just tore off all of our gutters and I'm about to install new ones. Thank you!
Love that you talked about the left hand and right hand aviator snips. You are the first I have found to mention them. In my experience having them and knowing when and how to use them is so much easier, a huge time saver and provides a much better end result to the cut.
He could have just walked to the other side.
Love this channel ☺️ putting gutters on a shed this weekend
Best of luck with your project 🙌
Awesome. Better instructions than this old house. Especially the 1 man install part.👍👍
Wish I'd seen this video 25+ years ago before I put on our two story addition. 150 ish ft of gutter & every seam is a perpetual leak problem. Also fastened using traditional nail & tube spacer along the top of the gutter & shall I say they haven't all held tightly.
I did exactly that (insert one length into the next) for the joint and agree - It works perfectly and hasn't leaked in 12 years. Those stupid joint things always leak eventually so I'd NEVER recommend them. I used self-tapping panhead screws since I didn't have a rivet tool. Also your downspout is 100x better than the downspout fitting from the store.
This was encouraging, Scott. You did all of it by yourself, so I may be able to, too, just not as fast as you. I got a quote to have it done (seamless gutters and maybe debris guards), front and back, and even with Senior and Veteran discounts, I would not pay that much. I told him, I want it, but I don't need it. He understood. I have all the tools, except the crimpers, and two heights of ladders; 8' and 6', plus an extension ladder for getting on the roof. I would have thought the downspout would be secured more than in just one place, and rather high in this case. Is there a reason not to secure it in more places, maybe 3? The middle and lower, too? That could be especially helpful for the directional pieces, when they're needed. My house is one story, bricked on a slab, no basement or crawlspace, so I won't need them, but may want (or need) to direct the flow. The rain just falls off the roof now, but I never considered slab damage. Is that a thing? Thanks, Scott.
Great video, cleared up a lot of questions for my project.
There's a company in my area that does seamless gutters (not installed) very affordably. It was actually cheaper than the big box stores and higher quality. Also, a regular miter saw is the easiest way to cut gutters that I found.
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I’ll second this. They’ll run them as long as you want, and I’ve found them to be the exact same price as sections store-bought. I had a 66’ run formed, and the 2 guys even helped me carry it around to the back and set it on the ground right in front of where it was being hung.
@jimmypautz can you share the company? I'm trying to see if we have one here in SoCal
@danervin2530 can you share company name please? I'll check if we have one here at SoCal. Thanks
@@prxncxssr0sx I'm in Wisconsin, but the business I used is called The Gutter Company.
Excellent video! Very easy to understand instruction and demonstration. Thank you.
Beautiful
I just did my own gutters with those gutter hangers and I absolutely hate them.. I hung my own gutters over 22 years ago on one of my houses and the gutters are still in working condition and those were with the old tube and nail hangers and that was so much easier.
Those are some of the absolute worst brackets on the market...
I had an idea as I was watching you set one end of the gutter on the ladder farthest from you @12:06 to mount the end you were holding; you could move that farthest ladder closer to you to take that weight off the center of the gutter while you’re mounting the first end. No sag on the gutter and less pressure.
Simply amazing! Thank you so much!
following your advice today. i have two pieces.. ones a short one and one is fairly long. i will try this on the smaller section first. very clear video.... i noticed you painted your lower downspout bracket,, you should mention that so it looks nicer... nice detail anyway. (went to paint them, realize they already were sooo ....nevermind lol). i was unable to install this by myself. i did not take into consideration my ladders were not tall enough...so i got it all ready and will have help to install next time. but the rest of it went fine.
I love your videos, you make it so easy to replicate. I have used your videos to do a couple projects at home.
Perfect timing for my project!
I really enjoy your videos. I always learn something new. You are as good or better than the guys at THIS OLD HOUSE.
What side of the drip edge did you put the gutter in behind it or inside the gutter?
Excellent video. Thanks.
Great information! Good show! Amazing presenter too!
Thanks so much 👊
Great video. Thank you.
I'm installing aluminum gutters on my 12' x 10' shed. This is one of the best videos on that project I have found. What size rivets are best for the gutters?
THANK YOU!
Hey Scott - Enjoyed the video; interesting stuff! A thought: maybe next time (or as an addition?) show putting the end caps on using both the rivet gun AND the crimping tool?
Great job.
One thing I prefer is to pre-drill for the rivets before I add the seam sealant, which I find makes alignment easier and, minor, keeps my drill bit cleaner.
There is no such thing as pre drilling. Your terminology says you are drilling before you drill. You aren’t . You are drilling pilot holes.
@@alanyoder7629”pre” means “before”. “Pilot holes” are for screws, not rivets. He simply drilled holes and he drilled them BEFORE sealing.
@@seeqr9 correct, pre means before. Pre drill therefore means drilling before drilling. Which is stupid. Just say drilling a pilot hole because THAT IS WHAT IS BEING DONE. Not drilling before you drill.
@@alanyoder7629 it doesn’t mean “drilling before drilling” that would be “pre drilling drilling”..
“pre drilling” just means “drilling before”… BEFORE something,… before riveting, before painting, before sanding, before assembly, etc. before anything.
When you get a product that already has holes in it you can say “they drilled it before they sent it to me” or you can say “it came pre drilled”.
Pilot holes are a specific type of pre drilling, that is, a hole specifically for a screw.
All pilot holes are pre drilled holes, not all pre drilled holes are pilot holes.
@@seeqr9 you are wrong . Just give up trying to justify a stupid and totally incorrect phrase.
I am living in a house where we have gutters that are joined with slip joints in some of the gutter placements, and one of them is leaking real bad front-of-house. It also looks like it's sagging there, so the water's pitching towards it instead of the downspout.
I have no doubt the gutters will need replacements since they are not only old, but if they are not sloped right, the joints will leak water out.
I have two gutters coming together with this same joint connection on the house ,that have being installed on the home ,that leaks ,how can I repair this? 😎your videos are every clear,I am a newbie .
Those bags are the shit !
Decent job, next time put the support ladder in the middle to prevent the bowing. Move your standing ladder operationally from one end to the other.
I have a 60 foot run with two downspouts, one on each end. I guess I should Vee the run in the middle?
He just saved me a few hundred on just one gutter I need replaced. Thanks!
Nice 🙌
Shouldn't the screws be screwed into the rafter beams, not just every 2 feet?
Good video
You got such a small drip edge and the gutter is not behind the drip edge. How is that working for you? Any leaks?
I had a garage built a few years ago and had an installer do the work. 20” runs. The one thing that he did was to install 6” downspouts. He said that this way you have less of a problem with clogged downspouts. They don’t look out of place on the building.
That can be a nice upgrade. Thanks for the feedback!
What are your thoughts on rain chains?
What kind of screws did you use to secure the down spout brackets into the house sidings?
The upper connection of the long vertical stretch of downspout is on the inside of the elbow. Shouldn’t it be on the outside?
This is exactly how I did my gutters about 4 years ago. They were working fine til we got baseball size hail and had everything just replaced with seamless gutters professionally installed.
Yes, seamless FTW!
Hello, Is it possible to fix the leak of down spout connect to the gutter drain. The leak is at the top of the spout connecting to the gutter drain.
Hello Scott, next time you do a gutter video, can you provide close up video shots of what you're doing between the 10:00 to 11:00 timestamps? Totally understand the challenge of making a video by yourself. More importantly, if you have the opportunity can you do a gutter video for a bay window? Those cuts and seams are a headache. Thanks bud!
Thanks for the feedback! The bay window would make for a great video 👍
What size rivet is good for gutters?
Hi dear! Your video is great! May I ask do you do that for someone? I need gutters for my home. I would like you can help me. Thank you for your sharing your video to everyone!
Scott, you reference a couple videos for runoff, but no links on screen or in the video... is that forthcoming?
I just started a new job as a Gutter Installer,
Question: You said a half inch drop every 10 feet in level from high side to low side, isn't the standard usually a half inch drop every 4 feet?
Thanks in advance,
Awesome tutorial!
A 1/2 inch drop every 4 feet would be 2 1/2 inches at 20 feet which would look ridiculous, on a 60 foot run you could be out of fascia!
I always use stainless screws in gutters so that rust doesn’t run down the gutters later on!
Is there a manufacturer or after market maker of removable end caps or end caps that might be hinged somehow so as to make it easier to clean out the gutters? I "designed" a tool using eyebolts nuts and fender washers that can be placed in a gutter on top of the debris and pulled from one end and it grabs most of the leaves, pods, twigs, and dirt as you pull it along but I'd like to lengthen the tool and try emptying an entire gutter out in one or two pulls. That means saving me going up and down the ladder a dozen times or so that this 70 yo something old man would appreciate. Thank you.
What size rivet and drill hole size?
How many brackets do you need? Like for the 27' 8" gutter, what was your bracket spacing?
I think he said every 2 feet, but putting one in each joist if you can find em is even better
Just confirming, gutters are not supposed to be behind the drip edge? Mine are and I’m not too certain if that’s what is giving my roof issues on the soffit??
I prefer to set gutters lower than the drip edge. My high side was about 1/4” below the lowest portion of the drip edge.
if the drip edge is behind the gutter, that gives the water a way to go between the gutter and the fascia.
@@kenbrown2808 ohh that makes sense, because water follows tension right?
@@tretre1692 any time there is an exposed upper edge, water can go on both sides of it. so in wet regions, every effort is made to never have an exposed upper edge, and nobody in their right mind relies on adhesives to stop water. everything is overlapped, so when water gets in, the overlap encourages it to find its way back out.
I noticed you didn’t talk about the drip edge hanging over into the gutter.
i wish i could use a simple A ladder to reach my gutter. is it safe to rest a ladder against a gutter in order to get up to reach it? my gutter is sagging and not sure why, i think i just need to simply add some reinforcement screws but i dont know the best way to get up to it. its about15 feet off the ground
Use bullhorn/ladder stand off attachment so your resting on the roof and not the gutter.
I see trees - lots of trees. You have lots of trees nearby? You need oversized gutters!! Seamless gutters are usually made from a heavier gauge metal.
Do you have a recommendation for a rivet tool?
Arrow one handed riveter
what type of gutters are they
I had no idea tin snips were color coded, I thought it was just a stylistic thing 😮
I would have included leaf guards
I was running out of space at the end to recommend videos as we have one on leaf guards which I also recommend. Especially for this garage as there is a tree directly over the garage roof. 👍
@@EverydayHomeRepairsleafgards often wind up dumping water over lip of gutter, particularly on heavy rain when you needed those gutters the most.
What rivet gun did you use
I just got a basic one like this amzn.to/47k6n76
Would screws suffice in lieu of rivets?
Rivets are going to work much better. Personally I would now use screws.
Rivets are easier on the fingers when it's cleaning time. Something to think about. Rivets also pull the surfaces together as they are pulled up. This helps to ensure a tight seal. They also are also usually made of same material (aluminum) as the gutter, so they don't corrode when wet, and don't loosen as easily due to differential expansion during heating and cooling cycles. Leaky gutters suck. You could use stainless to avoid (some of) the corrosion, but they still have all the other disadvantages. Plus you can usually get the tool and a bag of rivets for the price of a box of Stainless screws.
So... What should I do if water is getting *behind* a gutter I just installed?
Behind the gutters on the fascia board side? Just want to make sure one of your ends isn’t against a wall where the water is getting behind the end cap.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs right on the fascia side. Can I caulk the gaps it's coming through or do I need a tighter mounting system?
It may be that your drip edge is too close to the fascia.
1/8" per foot slope on gutter.
Yup, half inch every 4 feet
Yea we'd be done in 28 min. Gonna watch it though. Saw one guy pop a line on a 19 footer that had over an inch drop. We should do a video on a decent size house and put it like x2 the speed and clown all these fools. Even as old and sorry we are id take us speed wise over almost crew, 30 years younger. Omg don't forget your grinder and safety goggles for those big jobs coming up. 😂
Gutters are too low water will shed straight over the gutter. Should be mounted under drip edge.
@everyday home repairs why you never respond to my messages
Sorry, I try to get back to the most comments I can but some times fall behind.
@EverydayHomeRepairs I understand it was awhile ago!! I had a question about a n light switch in my kitchen that you demonstrated on. It's a switch that controls my light fixture. My plug that's there has the long plug on the right and the short on the left. My question is when I install the new outlet I do make sure the long plug is on the left correct the wiring would be the same, correct
Why didn’t you hire a local seamless gutter installer to run a one piece gutter?
Wrong, gutters need to be behind the drip edge, not below.
I wish I’d never switch to dish!
Good you are doing as I expected joining. You should use caulking before overlapping. And end caps there is a crip tool to joint the end cap. Rivets is house wife method. Waist of time chalk line and level. If your are good eye ball is enough
so apparently you skipped the parts of the video where he applied sealer before overlapping, and where he mentioned there is a crimp tool.
and the chalk line makes eyeballing easy, but the torpedo level is way too short to be accurate. just measure for your slope.
House wife method? What does that mean?
@@chick-flick-cherry rivets using vs crimping end gutter cap tool
Please people do not follow this guy's "tips". That is an hour job with 1 guy! 2 guys we'd be outta there in 30 min. Seamless gutters, I've seen clowns on UA-cam on gutters but this dude is #1.
Thanks for the support 🙌
@EverydayHomeRepairs you may actually have some good tips, but gutters is not your thing homie. Sadly been doing it 30 years and you made that job 1000% more difficult then it should have been. I will give credit on anything I see of your other videos. Not just a hater
@@abolishthe19thamendment Yep, I am just a DIYer sharing my projects. Appreciate the feedback as I continue to learn.
Bro your supposed to go behind the drip edge not under it.. that whole gutter is gonna leak now with water behind the back of the gutter
Across the southern U.S., gutters can do more harm than good. They rot the fascia boards and prevent water from reaching the foundation. Yes, we want a wet ground around our concrete slabs to keep them from sinking/shifting, damaging the house. Some even install foundation watering systems to keep the ground around the foundation evenly wet. When we moved into our current home in 1991, the very first thing I did was to remove all the gutters. Being a one-story house, the water doesn't dig a trench where it hits the ground. That said, there may be some places where you'd like to divert water (doorways). You can use a diverter for that. I realize that up north, it's a different situation. Water needs to be kept away from your foundations/basements.
i can't find the video for the drainage options
Here ya go ua-cam.com/video/2AF1_Do6jjo/v-deo.html
Good video