If you're looking to purchase tools for coin ring making, I have links to all the tools in this video here: www.joshuathejeweler.com/post/new-video-making-a-ring-from-a-quarter
Sorry to hear you're having trouble with coin ring making. Half dollars are a bit tougher to move than quarters, so they take more patience and slightly different tools. The older silver one's can crack easily too so they need to be annealed frequently. I typically use an arbor press, and swedish wrap dies for those coins. I'm happy to help if there's a specific part of the process you're hung up on.
Nice to see he uses appropriate tools such as brass and plastic-faced hammers. Not steel on steel. And he doesn't tink-tink; he hits strongly. Thanks for showing it done right, Joshua
slight tipp here from a blacksmith. always hammer your piece supported, otherwise the energy is lost and the vibrations go right into your hands causing lots of little problems. so I advise you to lay a piece of wood on the anvil and then tap the ring on the mandrel flat on that. quicker and safer. and never put your thumb on the top! again your trapping vibrations sending them into your body/finger.
This is a great demonstration! I can figure everything out myself from watching but I think seeing the steps as a basic text narration would do wonders for your audience.
Man the technique has changed from the sixties hasn't it. We used to beat on the edges with a spoon till it gets wide enough and then drill out the center and then take a rasp and bore it out to size sand it down polish it look like a real silver ring except for one thing your shows the whole thing ours didn't great job master
Nice brass mallet. Wow!?! Copper washers the size of a penny for only a penny!! And quarter sized washers for only a quarter! That mallet and mandrel combo is just the ticket. Ive got to get me one of those discs. I never knew it was so easy to go from a disc to a cylindrical ring. Thanks for sharing about this!
I know people like videos without talking, but this one, with step by step of what you are doing would have been golden. The first parts were obvious but when yiu got to a certain point, no idea from there what/why yiu were doing it, thanks
I love blacksmithing, we're i did my apprenticeship as a fitter machinist tool maker, we had the last smith's shop in the city, im getting an anvil 😂 😅 ❤❤ thanks great video, 😊cheers 🍻 from Australia 😊
I made a ring from a quarter of my birth year. It was silver. I used a steel soup spoon to mushroom out the fluted edge until it was the correct size and then drilled out the center. I wore it off and on for years until the date nearly wore off from my finger.
Same here. Did five silver bands and gave them to my sister and my niece for gifts with memorial dates of my dad and sister who passed. Also made one for myself as a wedding band
My late Pop's use to make with a spoon....I have one he made me and the last one he making....He always used silver coin easier to hammer into shape with the spoon...
This was really helpful knowledge for me, I'm hoping one day to be a bladesmith, making and selling rings like this is a great way for me to get started, to earn the money I need for the tools and knowledge for bladesmithing!
It’s the reduction die from a ring stretcher. Or possibly you’re referring to the flat punch which I honestly just found in a parking lot one day, no idea what it is.
I've found with newer quarters (less than 25 years old) I can generally size them to about a size 9 ring without annealing. They will crack if over-worked and for larger sizes or older coins I will anneal them. When stretching the coin only stretch a little bit at a time and turn the coin about 1/8 of a turn with every stretch so you aren't overworking one area of the coin.
First buy an anvil, cutting jig, deburring tool, hammer, ring sizing jig... Will you have a nickel left to make in to a ring after spending a thousand dollars?
could the coin be pierced and rolled rather than taking a plug out of it so that a gold or silver coin retains its weight? i like the idea of the ring weighing its face value.
I haven't seen anyone do this successfully. The challenge is the inner material would be spread so thin it would crack very easily making it difficult to form the ring. That being said the punched pieces make nice earrings, tie tacks and cuff links. With larger coins like Morgan dollars I can even make a second ring from the center piece.
maybe using the purest k and heating to some point below melt although you would probably end up with a plain gold ring. it bears experimentation. the plug could be pressed back into the ring perhaps.@@joshuathejeweler
The anvil is not required just a sturdy bench or even a stump. The remaining tools you should be able to find for around $200. Sell 20 quarter rings and you’ll make that money back pretty quickly.
I happened to find this one in a parking lot, some kind of car part I guess. Any piece of flat steel bar or even an old hammer head may work similarly. If you have a press or ring reducer however I do recommend that over the punch for coin rings as you will get better control.
It appears to be a railcar brake lever pin (41 years as a railroader). They are hardened steel, but I’ve never one that was that flat on the end. Great vid btw! I’ve been making coin rings, bells & cowboy hats for a couple years, and found your procedure variation interesting! More than one way to skin a cat (or ring a coin)! Ha! Merry Christmas!
Thanks! believe it or not I paid $100 for that anvil. It's a 240lb Colonial period Mousehole style anvil that was dug up in the suburbs of Durham NC. I got a deal to say the least. Vevor has some decent starter anvils at affordable prices. You can get a mandrel from any number of online stores, Amazon or Otto Frei would be my first recommendations. Make sure it's steel not aluminum or plastic.
Newer coins are quite malleable, however they will crack if over worked. I find I can get most to between sizes 6 & 9 before they start to show signs of stress.
I made a quarter ring for my wife the old tryed and true way by holding it between thumb and finger and beat on the edge with a Navy tablespoon. Took a while, don't remember how i drilled hole but that was over 60 years ago. My wife's dad was in Navy during WW2 and he made her a ring out of a dime,she was born in 1943.😂 Of course these ring were made out of real silver coins not the wafer stuff we have now 😢 .
Most brass, copper, nickel, gold and silver coins will work for ring making if you are careful. I avoid steel coins and zinc pennies however. Steel can mar my tools, and zinc pennies just aren't very malleable and the copper cladding separates from the zinc interior.
just about 2:24/2:26 I can see where the coin you started with split. You edited it out of the continuation and replaced it. Nice work in any case, I'm sure failures happen from time to time.
My camera is a little out of focus in those frames, but the ring shown at the end is actually the same one you see me working on from the beginning, no cracks. I don't exactly have a ton of 2017 Frederick Douglass quarters lying around :) Older coins are more prone to splitting, so I typically anneal those.
@@joshuathejeweler I looked again and what I saw was the edge of the ring you are wearing on your finger and it looked (I only saw it for a fraction of a second) as though the ring you are making split. I was wrong, thanks for replying and like I said, good work.😀😀😀
I do sell old silver coin rings. Online I have half dollar and Morgan dollar rings available, silver halves start at $127 for a ring. Feel free to send me an email, joshuathejeweler@gmail.com, with what coins you might be able to supply (I'll make a ring from your coin too if you so desire).
@Joshua The Jeweler I use clear nail polish on mine every 6mo or so, it works just fine. But I was just wondering if you had something better. Nice work, what is the silver coin cut off 1964?
I don't coat my rings with anything. The green finger is minimal on clad coins, although noticeable. I know some makers use clear powder coat or uv resin but it's not worth the extra effort in my opinion for a simple quarter ring.
@@josh88113 I guess the quarter had an alloy with more of copper. And it's the oxidization that usually leaves the stain. Blue to green. And that's toxic. Silver coins would be better option.
@@josh88113 Great. My sister has somewhat similar problem. She's allergic to most metals (except gold) and has to wear resin strap wrist watch without metal buckle. I'll be happy to know how you fare with UV resin part. I'm in India and haven't come across the UV resin concept.
There’s many suppliers out there that make coin ring tools and jewelry tools, you can find most of the tools used in this video on Amazon, Etsy or EBay. Jason’s Works is a great brand for coin ring specific tools but can be a little pricey for some. For Jewelry tools I recommend Otto Frei and Rio Grande if you’re in the US.
Yes it could be but they seem to be harder to make rings with most of the coins foreign Believe me I have made them I have a couple hundred of them laying around survived Rings after my fire voice typing
Actually no, not with a modern quarter. The nickel is very tough and doesn’t deform much and the only part of the coin in contact with the die is the very edge of the outside and inside rim. Silver coins are a different story however because they are softer.
I had a sailor show me a ring he made from a silver dollar. They tapped them flat on the ships rail, then drilled out the center. I made one for my pop but used a light hammer to round. It took me a long time but was unique.
My dad made his wedding ring out of a silver half dollar or silver dollar, I don’t remember which one, in about 1950 using a spoon. I was born in 52 so wasn’t there but my mom said it about drove her crazy, all the tap, tap, tapping.
I agree, 100 %...though 'simple' is a relative term, and it helps to have the correct tools. Can you make jewelry out of coins in China? The older ones already had a hole (square hole) in the center, easier start...hahahaha
If you're looking to purchase tools for coin ring making, I have links to all the tools in this video here: www.joshuathejeweler.com/post/new-video-making-a-ring-from-a-quarter
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@@حقح-ح7ف Beware of the man selling the tools to make his product, instead of trying to sell his product
I love watching this. So far it's only been 3 times.
I've spent about $300 and still cannot make a ring out of a 50 cent piece
Sorry to hear you're having trouble with coin ring making. Half dollars are a bit tougher to move than quarters, so they take more patience and slightly different tools. The older silver one's can crack easily too so they need to be annealed frequently. I typically use an arbor press, and swedish wrap dies for those coins. I'm happy to help if there's a specific part of the process you're hung up on.
Nice to see he uses appropriate tools such as brass and plastic-faced hammers. Not steel on steel.
And he doesn't tink-tink; he hits strongly. Thanks for showing it done right, Joshua
Grazie per la diffusione di contenuti e informazioni. Buon lavoro
Morgoth-level! The customer gives you a ring then you give them one - perfect. Thoroughly enjoyed this vid.
Like making anything, you just need the right tools and understanding
Nice work nice ring and enjoyed the video Hope everyone here is having a good day through the most unbelievable time in the history of our lives 👍
10mins no sweat with right Tools & Mandrel &... err..a rather large Anvil not to mention some considerable Skill...
Great piece of work in the end...
Thanks, with even better tools I've done it under a minute. I've got a video of that too.
slight tipp here from a blacksmith. always hammer your piece supported, otherwise the energy is lost and the vibrations go right into your hands causing lots of little problems.
so I advise you to lay a piece of wood on the anvil and then tap the ring on the mandrel flat on that. quicker and safer.
and never put your thumb on the top! again your trapping vibrations sending them into your body/finger.
I was about to say that - I winced thinking about it
I think he knows what to do..without amateurs telling him what to do
This is a great demonstration! I can figure everything out myself from watching but I think seeing the steps as a basic text narration would do wonders for your audience.
So, you can figure it out, but others need words??? You're full of crap...hahahaha, get it? Crap...Mr. lover and studier of such stuff...hahahaha
Man the technique has changed from the sixties hasn't it. We used to beat on the edges with a spoon till it gets wide enough and then drill out the center and then take a rasp and bore it out to size sand it down polish it look like a real silver ring except for one thing your shows the whole thing ours didn't great job master
Yep that’s the old school way, it takes a bit more patience :)
Nice brass mallet. Wow!?! Copper washers the size of a penny for only a penny!! And quarter sized washers for only a quarter! That mallet and mandrel combo is just the ticket. Ive got to get me one of those discs. I never knew it was so easy to go from a disc to a cylindrical ring. Thanks for sharing about this!
I know people like videos without talking, but this one, with step by step of what you are doing would have been golden. The first parts were obvious but when yiu got to a certain point, no idea from there what/why yiu were doing it, thanks
I love blacksmithing, we're i did my apprenticeship as a fitter machinist tool maker, we had the last smith's shop in the city, im getting an anvil 😂 😅 ❤❤ thanks great video, 😊cheers 🍻 from Australia 😊
I made a ring from a quarter of my birth year. It was silver. I used a steel soup spoon to mushroom out the fluted edge until it was the correct size and then drilled out the center. I wore it off and on for years until the date nearly wore off from my finger.
Same here. Did five silver bands and gave them to my sister and my niece for gifts with memorial dates of my dad and sister who passed. Also made one for myself as a wedding band
Thats my type of coin ring making no 17 degree dies and cones or swedish wrapping lol
Very impressive craftmanship sir!!!
As teens, we used a spoon to whack the coin edges flat, and a drill to make the center hole. Sand paper and buffer. Done.
I have tried different ways of making coin rings this is unique, great job.
Thanks I developed this method to do demonstrations while traveling at fairs and shows. I typically use a ring stretcher and press however.
This is what my mom and dad did for their wedding rings!
Excellent 👍 he just increased the value of that quarter r by about 25,000 percent
I call it fighting inflation with common cents!
How many do you want to buy I'll start making them tomorrow eagle
Such fine tools and craftsmanship.
My late Pop's use to make with a spoon....I have one he made me and the last one he making....He always used silver coin easier to hammer into shape with the spoon...
Excellent! But aren't you worried? That you'll scratch that gorgeous anvil!? LOL
A bit late for that I’m afraid haha. She’s lasted a couple hundred years already so I think she’ll survive.
Quick craft, great results!
QUIET ON THE SET !!! sweet vid ... neat ring !!!
Silver spoon handles make nice men's rings 😎
They’re pretty popular with the ladies too :)
Seriously cool!
Excellent information thank you
Tienes instageam? Haces un trabajo excelente
This was really helpful knowledge for me, I'm hoping one day to be a bladesmith, making and selling rings like this is a great way for me to get started, to earn the money I need for the tools and knowledge for bladesmithing!
Dork 😂😂😂
Go for it! I actually got into jewelry because of bladesmithing. The jewelry side has been the more profitable endeavor in the long run.
@@beliedat2457 precisely 🤓🤓
You need a life@@beliedat2457
Great Video !!! Thank You for NOT having Crap Background MUSIC
Awesome technique truly a craftsmans handiwork. "He has sealed talents in their hand"
gret video,, what is the round tool called when you bang the rings in ? Thanks , i didnt see it on the list of tools :)
It’s the reduction die from a ring stretcher. Or possibly you’re referring to the flat punch which I honestly just found in a parking lot one day, no idea what it is.
One quarter of a ring to rule them all...
Why do you not heat them up and quench them?
Whenever I dont heat, they start to tear??
Great process btw !
I've found with newer quarters (less than 25 years old) I can generally size them to about a size 9 ring without annealing. They will crack if over-worked and for larger sizes or older coins I will anneal them. When stretching the coin only stretch a little bit at a time and turn the coin about 1/8 of a turn with every stretch so you aren't overworking one area of the coin.
Cool technique! Thank you for sharing!
First buy an anvil, cutting jig, deburring tool, hammer, ring sizing jig... Will you have a nickel left to make in to a ring after spending a thousand dollars?
Is there a huge market for rings made from quarter's? I see tons of videos on the subject .. are they lucrative at all?
I love that anvil
Yes, nice video. I just subscribed. Thank you.
could the coin be pierced and rolled rather than taking a plug out of it so that a gold or silver coin retains its weight? i like the idea of the ring weighing its face value.
I haven't seen anyone do this successfully. The challenge is the inner material would be spread so thin it would crack very easily making it difficult to form the ring. That being said the punched pieces make nice earrings, tie tacks and cuff links. With larger coins like Morgan dollars I can even make a second ring from the center piece.
maybe using the purest k and heating to some point below melt although you would probably end up with a plain gold ring. it bears experimentation. the plug could be pressed back into the ring perhaps.@@joshuathejeweler
I would love to go to a work shop and make one
Was watching with headphones and thought someone came in at my house first few seconds 😂
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO. 🇺🇸👍🏻
This is extremely interesting to me however the investment in the anvil another tool working items seem to be a big expense for
The anvil is not required just a sturdy bench or even a stump. The remaining tools you should be able to find for around $200. Sell 20 quarter rings and you’ll make that money back pretty quickly.
Where can I find a flat punch like that sir? Ty! Great video!
I happened to find this one in a parking lot, some kind of car part I guess. Any piece of flat steel bar or even an old hammer head may work similarly. If you have a press or ring reducer however I do recommend that over the punch for coin rings as you will get better control.
It appears to be a railcar brake lever pin (41 years as a railroader). They are hardened steel, but I’ve never one that was that flat on the end. Great vid btw! I’ve been making coin rings, bells & cowboy hats for a couple years, and found your procedure variation interesting! More than one way to skin a cat (or ring a coin)! Ha! Merry Christmas!
Love it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻, what happens with the centre part of the coin?? 🤔
I’ve made some into earrings but I have quite a collection at this point.
@@joshuathejewelerscrap.
If you punch out about a 5/8 hole you can make a ring out of that. very small one I have made them out of pennies for practice eagle
How many beautiful silver rings could you buy for the cost of all those tools and dies!
And what would be the fun of that come on man
Nice job, where can I get the mandrel, pretty much have everything else. Don't think I could afford that anvil, she's a beauty. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! believe it or not I paid $100 for that anvil. It's a 240lb Colonial period Mousehole style anvil that was dug up in the suburbs of Durham NC. I got a deal to say the least. Vevor has some decent starter anvils at affordable prices. You can get a mandrel from any number of online stores, Amazon or Otto Frei would be my first recommendations. Make sure it's steel not aluminum or plastic.
I've seen these video's and most of them heat the coin before forming it. What keeps yours from splitting? Nice video.
Newer coins are quite malleable, however they will crack if over worked. I find I can get most to between sizes 6 & 9 before they start to show signs of stress.
@@joshuathejeweler Ok, thank you for the reply.
Yes I always had to anneal them but this will work you just have to be more careful and file out and it looks like a tear starting eagle
Please explain the process as you perform it.
Do you sell coin rings you make ??
Yes I do on joshuathejeweler.com
That is a great lesson, however explaining whe steps why he tapped the metal with different tools will remain a mystery.
That's cool
Yep, have to drop it at least once on the floor.
eXCELENT JOB...!!!
Very cool
i need one of those brother
It might nice if you described what you were doing?
I made a quarter ring for my wife the old tryed and true way by holding it between thumb and finger and beat on the edge with a Navy tablespoon. Took a while, don't remember how i drilled hole but that was over 60 years ago. My wife's dad was in Navy during WW2 and he made her a ring out of a dime,she was born in 1943.😂 Of course these ring were made out of real silver coins not the wafer stuff we have now 😢
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Can you only use certain coins, like not with a high zinc content
Most brass, copper, nickel, gold and silver coins will work for ring making if you are careful. I avoid steel coins and zinc pennies however. Steel can mar my tools, and zinc pennies just aren't very malleable and the copper cladding separates from the zinc interior.
My dad reloaded ammo this seems like the same process as swedging the shells
just about 2:24/2:26 I can see where the coin you started with split. You edited it out of the continuation and replaced it. Nice work in any case, I'm sure failures happen from time to time.
My camera is a little out of focus in those frames, but the ring shown at the end is actually the same one you see me working on from the beginning, no cracks. I don't exactly have a ton of 2017 Frederick Douglass quarters lying around :) Older coins are more prone to splitting, so I typically anneal those.
@@joshuathejeweler I looked again and what I saw was the edge of the ring you are wearing on your finger and it looked (I only saw it for a fraction of a second) as though the ring you are making split. I was wrong, thanks for replying and like I said, good work.😀😀😀
Too cool
I want one
How do I get onplse plse
I sell coin rings on my website Joshuathejeweler.com. Contact me if you don’t see what you’re looking for.
Tools for that job and noing how hard to hit precision.
What about smaller sizes? Looks like they all have to be size 10
for smaller sizes I simply press the coin into a smaller hole in the die. For larger I will use a ring stretcher.
Do you make one's from old collectable silver quarters.
I could supply some.
Or how much are silver coin rings cost.
I do sell old silver coin rings. Online I have half dollar and Morgan dollar rings available, silver halves start at $127 for a ring. Feel free to send me an email, joshuathejeweler@gmail.com, with what coins you might be able to supply (I'll make a ring from your coin too if you so desire).
So where can we buy some ??
How do you keep it from turning your finger blue/green?
Don't get one so tight it cuts off the flow of blood ?
I don't do anything on these coins, nothing will prevent it long term and I fear some of the chemicals in coatings may be worse than the metal itself.
@Joshua The Jeweler I use clear nail polish on mine every 6mo or so, it works just fine. But I was just wondering if you had something better. Nice work, what is the silver coin cut off 1964?
@Don T. Ripfüller it's the metal content and not fitment
@@dont.ripfuller6587 has nothing to do with the size 😂😂😂😂😂
Like any of us have that equipment
you took the detail off?
Easy to make with the tools
Do you coat the inside with anything to keep it from turning your finger green
I don't coat my rings with anything. The green finger is minimal on clad coins, although noticeable. I know some makers use clear powder coat or uv resin but it's not worth the extra effort in my opinion for a simple quarter ring.
@@joshuathejeweler I think my wife is really sensitive to it or something. Her finger had some really bad staining from a modern quarter
@@josh88113 I guess the quarter had an alloy with more of copper. And it's the oxidization that usually leaves the stain. Blue to green. And that's toxic. Silver coins would be better option.
@@RajendraRajani I tried a 90% silver coin and she still got stains. She said it happens with sterling silver too. I’m gonna try some UV resin on it
@@josh88113 Great. My sister has somewhat similar problem. She's allergic to most metals (except gold) and has to wear resin strap wrist watch without metal buckle. I'll be happy to know how you fare with UV resin part. I'm in India and haven't come across the UV resin concept.
How could I get a couple of these made
Hey Jimmy, I’d be happy to make them for you. My contact info is on my website joshuathejeweler.com.
Excelente.
Where can I get you tools to learn how to do it properly myself
There’s many suppliers out there that make coin ring tools and jewelry tools, you can find most of the tools used in this video on Amazon, Etsy or EBay. Jason’s Works is a great brand for coin ring specific tools but can be a little pricey for some. For Jewelry tools I recommend Otto Frei and Rio Grande if you’re in the US.
But it could be a random coin from anywhere 😊
Yes it could be but they seem to be harder to make rings with most of the coins foreign Believe me I have made them I have a couple hundred of them laying around survived Rings after my fire voice typing
В принципе не сложно.Если знаешь процесс и инструмент под боком.
Do you shave the back of your hands?
Is that anvil circa 1790s? Or circa 18-coolashell!?
Yeah, you know your anvils. Late 18th century Colonial for sure. About 240lbs. I bought it off a lady who dug it out of her yard in Durham, NC.
@@joshuathejeweler that's cool, brought back to life, looks amazing!
All that metal to metal contact you have with your die, Don't you lose a lot of detail?
Actually no, not with a modern quarter. The nickel is very tough and doesn’t deform much and the only part of the coin in contact with the die is the very edge of the outside and inside rim. Silver coins are a different story however because they are softer.
@@joshuathejeweler ty, I have never seen it done that way, I think I'll try it.
Nice 🙏
I like green 😂
I've heard of guys making rings out of silver coins in WW2 with just a spoon to round it with
yes and a drill to remove the center, that's the old school way. It takes some patience :)
I had a sailor show me a ring he made from a silver dollar. They tapped them flat on the ships rail, then drilled out the center. I made one for my pop but used a light hammer to round. It took me a long time but was unique.
That was my grandfather in WW2 in a Japanese POW camp. I have still have the quarter. Not a ring though.
My dad made a ring for my mother using a spoon. She still wears it and she’s 84.
My dad made his wedding ring out of a silver half dollar or silver dollar, I don’t remember which one, in about 1950 using a spoon. I was born in 52 so wasn’t there but my mom said it about drove her crazy, all the tap, tap, tapping.
Did you anneal the coin before?
Not usually for a standard quarter but I may for older coins as they tend to be more work hardened
nice
Removing currency from circulation is like handing money to china. Thanks a lot
Whats that matel cone shape thing called
It’s a ring mandrel
gone for supporting President Trump's...
😂😂😂😂
No annealing?
Not for this one but I do anneal for older coins or larger ring sizes
Pretty cool , the punch doubles as a ring sizer . Did you make the tools also ? Almost forgot nice anvil :-)
Thanks, I don’t make these tools myself. Yea I like my colonial anvil :)
Great video! What tools does one need to make these rings? Best place to purchase the tools? Thank you in advance.
Tools are listed in the description. I’ve ordered tools off Amazon, Etsy, and Otto Frei.
I bet all those tools are pricey.
I'm pretty sure you could buy all the necessary tools for this process for under $250. That may be pricey for some.
Isn’t it illegal to destroy money?
Defacing currency is illegal. Doesn’t matter if it’s in his possession or not. If the jewelry is sold, that’s where the real problem occurs.
Oh who cares
看起来很简单啊,好,我会了~哈哈~
I agree, 100 %...though 'simple' is a relative term, and it helps to have the correct tools. Can you make jewelry out of coins in China? The older ones already had a hole (square hole) in the center, easier start...hahahaha
I want one like this price 🧡🧡🧡🤗
Bello grazie
I have my grandfathers ring, Born in 1894. He said it was made from a coin. I wonder how they did it 90 to 100 years ago ???
Most likely he used the spoon tapping method, that's the old school way. Takes a bit of patience though.
Always ANNEAL!
Now on sale for £45 ....