how to dose cupramine to kill ich in saltwater aquarium
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- how to dose cupramine to kill ich in saltwater aquarium.
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Thank u,,soo much I bought a tank for my son,and got ick,,his first 4 fish died ,,we learned alot with these videos ,,I think were equipped to take care of it now,,ur videos are very helpful
thanks! ich is the biggest issue with saltwater. many people think it will just go away over time. it never does unless you remove it by following what I say in these videos.
I agree - if you have an ick outbreak it is best to remove all fish into QT / dosing tanks for 6 weeks and then you can place them back into the main display. After you do this it will really motivate you to use a QT tank to introduce new fish - so that you don't have to repeat that process for the fish in your main tank. Also, good advise on having a separate fishless coral QT tank - although that is a bit more expensive due to lighting and flow requirements.
Hello and thank you for the video. Can you advise what kind lights would suffice for a coral QT ? thank you
do a search for coral lights...any small light will do. LED works great
Hey. Can I use the water on my DT for setting up the QT and then dose it with cupramine before adding a fish so that I don’t need to wait to cycle the water and there will be presence of beneficial bacteria on it. Should I removed the carbon on the power filter when dosing the cupramine? Thanks! Great videos and very educational for new reef hobbyists.
yes to everything you said but you also need something in the qt that has been in your DT. something that will have bacteria on it. just using water is not enough. if you don't do this, you will need to do water changes daily to keep ammonia out.
Thank you for the information! How many days do you dose?
just twice, as the bottle says.
Hey I’m going to begin treatment in 2 days I’m and was wondering:
Have you had any issues with the rock with beneficial bacteria from the dt absorb the copper?
none at all....but this was after a couple months of using it
@@ROTTERtube great. Thanks for the info.
Used it, it works! Great video
Just got my 10 Gallon Quarantine tank set up. I'm treating my Brown Powder Tang. I have had bad luck with these guys. Local Fish Store told me they treat their new supply with copper upon arriving at the store, no need to treat once I get it home. The fish looked great at the store but the next day signs of Ich. Hoping for the best.
Even if they do treat the fish with minor copper you should always QT. The store I get fish from do the same and they still say you should QT just in case.
I need to treat 2 clownfish for brooklynella and my other fish have ich but they arent showing any signs or stress right now. I'm scared to treat, I've never done it, I have the QT but its dry and never set it up. Should I get a second QT setup for the clowns? I feel like this is what I get for not QTing :( Help.
you'll be fine. dose half the recommended amount of cupramine and keep them in there for 6 weeks...in the QT. put a rock or something from your DT in the QT for bacteria so the ammonia from their urine will not kill them. do not ever put that rock in the DT again since it will have copper in it.
For velvet, I do a fresh water dip (RODI) for no more than 5 min. Because it’s velvet and very aggressive, I do full concentration for .5. Not sure where you got one drop per gallon unless your using it to acclimate the fish to copper treatment (which I recommend for ich). Copermine will only work at .5 (no less, no more). That’s about 4 drops per gallon
1 drop per gallon is more than enough. the instructions on the bottle are too close to toxic levels for fish. this has been documented.
Hello. First, let me say thank you for your videos! Very helpful info! I have 3 questions for you. (1) Is it OK to dose my QT with Cupramine before I add the first fish? (2) Once the 6 weeks is over, do the water changes eliminate the copper completely, before placing fish back to DT? If no, how do I remove the copper and safely move the fish back to DT with no copper present? I have corals and CUC in DT. (3) What would I feed my Lawn Mower Blenny while he’s in QT? He only eats the algae from my rocks. Thanks for any advice you can provide.
hi kim, great job on the QT! this will be easy for you. 1. yes, you can add cupramine before adding the fish no problem. 2. just acclimate the fish from the QT in a bowl of water from your DT. whatever small bit of copper is on your fish will do nothing, if there is anything after the swim in the bowl of DT water. you can put a small rock or any rock from your tank in your QT. that rock will have copper on it so I wouldn't put it back in again....just buy a new dry rock from the store to replace it.
@@ROTTERtube Thanks for the advice! I’m on day #7 of QT. All is going well so far. 😁
Hey. Nice video. I have a 68 gallon fiah only tank with a small sump and live rock. I'm guessing about 70 gallons of water. Estimate. I dosed 70 drops 48 hours ago. I'm waiting on a better copper test kit. You say you dose every 48 hours. Wont the copper levels build up to toxic levels? Or did I misunderstand? Wondering if I should do another 70 drops today.
follow the instructions on the bottle but my recommendation is to dose half the does. cut it in half. the reason is, what they say to dose is too close to toxic levels. if you dose too much your fish can die. also, there is no test that can properly test for copper. way too hard to read. all over the web people say it's too hard to test. i tried test kits. can't read anything....good luck
Great video, but is it an older video or more recent? I Noticed your tank looks like it has been moved. I thought it used to set real close to some stairs.
hey phil. it's one day old. its' in the same spot. you're just seeing part of the tank
Hi Steve and thank you for your reply.Can you give me an advise for the issue I'm having: after strange behaviour of my emperor angelfish ,I moved all the inhabitants in the QT for a Cupramine treatment at .25 ppm.After 10 days of great recovery, there's another issue arising: the emperor shows lesions on the head and lateral line...hole in the head disease? As a former discus lover and keeper I know that this is caused mainly by Hexamita,but now I'm unsure.Can the copper treatment be causing it? Can I slowly reduce the Cupramine dosing?
thank you
Mario
Hi Mario, not sure if the copper will cause that but I don't think so. You can use less now, especially after 10 days...go every other day or less, maybe twice a week. Good job on the copper!
@@ROTTERtube thank you very much 😁
Hey I’m dosing cupramine in my 54L QT tank I added 15 drops first day after 48hrs I did a 50% water change the added 15 drops I’m doing a 50% water change every other day do I just add 15 drops every other day after I do a water change ? New to the game sorry for the dumb question. Thank for your videos best I’ve seen.
not dumb at all. follow the instructions and dose a little less than what they say. dosing too much can harm your fish and the amount they recommend is close to the danger area.
Fritz Mardel - Coppersafe vs cupramine?
Hi Shane, never used copper safe, just cupramine.
Hii ❤️ from india.great job keep helping beginers. 1) I have 35gallon tank with a dead rock .2) fishes started dying regularly .I ran empty tank for 3 weeks and bought fishes, that also died .3) salinity is 1.024. nitrate is also normal.fishes died with swollen eye.colour shredded out completely.kindly help me through tis.
i'm sorry to hear this. you must keep the fish out of the tank for 8 weeks. 3 weeks isn't long enough at all. it takes 5 weeks for the parasites to die. 8 weeks to make sure.
If you add cupramine to your display tank, can you ever put coral in it, even say a year down the road?
i'm not sure but i'm going to try it
Okey my brand new kole tang rejected the copper treatment. So im using active carbon to lower the cupramine to he back to normal. That stuff so strong. Mine must be a tad bit to high sence the kole tang bounced back quickly. What do u think should i strip it all out and try again or just lower the copper to i see him back to pecking on the glass.
dosing half the recommended amount is MORE THAN ENOUGH. you can even use a little less than 50% of what they recommend. not sure what you mean by he rejected it.
@@ROTTERtube for 8 hours the fish swimed around and for some reason he just drop to bottom of the tank and layed on his side. I added carbon and it took a few but then he went back to normal.
I'm not sure. could have been too much copper in the water. dose half what they recommend. also check the water for ammonia. there should be NO AMMONIA.
One question, you use just one time? And Wait six week ?
one at a time? use what one at a time? I put all my fish in at once for 8 weeks. 6 weeks minimum.
I just dosed my tank with half of the recommended doseing as you talked about in this video. When should i make the second dose? I have a fish only tank.
check the bottle for that. i dosed every other day for a week, with water changes every 3rd day.
It didnt work everything died. Blue face angle, purple tang, and puffer. 😥
you probably didn't get to them in time...sorry for your losses
Hey i love your Chanel been following you a while now. Just got some questions so do you dose for one week every other day 10 drops? and every third day when you do water change do you refill with cupramine? If so how many drops?
Final question when you put the 🐠 in the display tank how do you avoid getting copper in the tank?? Been thinking a lot about that part
/ cheers David
i dose for 6 weeks, usually skipping week 3 and 5. total of 6 weeks. i dose every other day. does that help you?
@@ROTTERtube how much do I dose after water change?
So after to complete the dosage what do u do? Do u just put in carbon to clear out the cuprmine?
How long do you keep the cupramine in your QT after i added all my drops
good question. doesn't matter since it's a QT tank. you can keep it running in case you need a Qt again or just rinse it out.
i don't ever use carbon
I have a 29 gallon qt so i dose half of the recommend?
yes, just cut in half what they say on the bottle
Rotter Tube Reef alright thanks!
Some how got ich in my 150 gallon reef tank - I think some water from the coral frags that went into my tank w/o being quarantined. My problem now is I need to setup a qt tank. I have 20 fish and want to treat them all. What size qt tank do you recommend I use or should I do multiple qt tanks? I have 5 tangs, an angel, some damsels, clowns, wrasses and a goby.
hi, sorry to hear about that. i can't answer that for you. you may need multiple tanks. you don't want them to be crammed for 6 weeks. maybe a 40 gallon or two of them?
@@ROTTERtube Thanks. I just found a 55 gallon on Craigslist for $55 so I'm going to buy it. After the 6 weeks can the traces of copper be removed from the 55 gallon? I may want to turn that into a FOWLR.
SURE, wash it out well with garden house a few times no soap, use white vinegar, rinse again, do the same one more time, you'll be fine.
@@ROTTERtube Awesome will do - thanks for the quick response.
My first bout with ick and I bought Cupramine. Freshwater. Everyone has it. 55 gallon tank. Should I treat that tank or move everyone to smaller hospital tanks? I've been using it for 4 days, followed directions, gave second dose. Should I keep doing it every 48 hours?
Hi, follow the instructions on the bottle. Yes, move all fish to a 2nd tank and treat them there with cupramine. you have a saltwater tank or freshwater?
Came across your channel, just wish to Express to you know I appreciate the informed information on how to dose cupermine. In college(25yrs ago😁), I dont recall having to setup QT. Obviously, times, have changed. Set up mt 20 QT, had 3 blue-green chromis, and within 3 weeks, all died. At the time, couldn't understand what was happening(water parameters were great, no sign of fighting among the fish), until I noticed on the last chromis that died, it had, what looked to be a single red mark toward rear of the body. That's when I became educated about Urenoma. This seemed to be prevalent among the damsel/clown fish. Fortunately, my firefish, chalk bass and neon goby are doing well.
Steve great video s if it wasn't for these videos we all would be using garlic and ginger and watching all the fish die one by one 👍
thanks so much Anthony! so glad i could be of help!
Question, I have been dosing my fish only disply tank with Nox-ich for 3 days now and it still looks like my puffer has ich on his fins. Per the directions on Nox-ich if the treatment doesn't work after 3 days take a day off and start treatment again for another 3 days. I ordered the seachem copper you recommended off Amazon, should I continue with the nox-ich for another 3days or do a water change (and if so how much) and put the seachem in? I've turned the heat up to 82 degrees my other fish look great but my puffer is sitting near the bottom of the tank but it doesnt look like hes rubbing on anything. I have also seen him do a weird twitching movement when he starts swimming around especially when I apply the Nox-ich
turning up or down the temperature won't help with getting rid of ich. neither will using less salt. the only thing that will kill ich or marine velvet is a tank with NO SALT or using copper...cupramine by seachem. he either has ich or marine velvet...could be something else.....not sure without seeing. it's always hard with fish.
@@ROTTERtube ok I know you mentioned if it's a fish only tank I could treat them in the display tank, do you think the cupramine will kill the ick in the gravel I have in the tank?
you can treat them in the main tank but not if you have corals or inverts. it will kill them. it will not harm the bacteria or sand or rock.
@@ROTTERtube ok because I heard the cupramine gets absorbed by the gravel and the dead rock in my tank, as of right now I just have my puffer in a 3.5 gallon quarantine tank with that sponge bio filter you recommended from Amazon and I put 5 drops of cupramine in the quarantine tank yesterday, I'm a little confused on the dosing even after watching your dosing video to I dose the tank every 48 hours or every day??
How would you quarantine a scooter Blenheim because there like mandarins right?
you could put a bowl of sand in the qt. mine was fine without the sand
Rotter Tube Reef are they more sensitive to copper like angels?
so if i do the cure treatment in the tank , should i keep the filter going on or stop it?
keep the filter going but stop the protein skimmer for the first week.
and i should dose one and then no more?
I've heard 6 weeks all the way to 3 months, What is the correct amount that you've followed regarding keeping your display tank without any fish ??
I've done 6 weeks on some other tanks and it was fine. I have done 8 with never an issue. still have no ich since I did it the first time. 6 weeks minimum and you're fine
@@ROTTERtube Thanks, appricate it !
Hi do you leave skimmer on or off thanks
great question.i leave it off
@@ROTTERtube thanks
Just one more thing instead of waiting 6 to 8 week with the coral I say Coral but it's gsp and Xenia .can I just wait like 2 week s and fresh water dip the coral before I put it back in my tank .I will make sure that there is no copper left first
you never use copper in a coral QT tank. you only use copper for your fish only QT tank. 2 weeks may work but i would go at least 5 to make sure the parasites are dead in that QT water from the reef store. not worth the risk. dipping doesn't kill all parasites or marine velvet.
Can I treat my fowlr sand bed (1inch) with cupramine? Thanks =}
sure
@@ROTTERtube thank you 😉
@@jeevan7397 I'm in a similar situation. Did this work? Or have any negative effects later on?
@@zmesservy Yes you can dose copper for the treatment but remember it's only for FOWLR! If you have any future plans for corals then think twice before dosing copper! For more information you can find at Reef2reef
If dosing cupramine in qt doesnt work, What im suppose to do? Any suggestion any treatment sir?
Hi Ami, it will always work. ALWAYS. 6 weeks minimum. any questions on this, ask here, watch all my qt videos and join the facebook group...link in video description
I moved my 6 fishes to QT, is it okay let them together in one QT withe cupramine treatment? Because I dont have tank anymore
yes put them all in one tank with qt
Thanks sir👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
so instead of a 20 drops per 10 gal tank I should do a 10 drops per gal.
yes
Hello! I have a question. all
you talk is about Cupramine. Malachite green can’t kill
ich? it’s much better and less
toxic
yes, copper solution / cupramine...and they never paid me....it’s what works.
@@ROTTERtube Hyposalinity works too . Cupramine is toxic
Good rule is nothing wet meaning rock, sand, coral, invert, or fish goes in the display tank without being quarantined. If you don't quarantine you're basically playing Russian Roulette with you tank. I've been in this hobby since 1999 and learned my lesson after the first ich outbreak. I used the tank transfer method and left my display fishless for 87 days.
You said 1 drop of cupramine per gallon towards the end. That's incorrect. Initially you stated that it was recommend to at 20 drops per gallon. So adding the half of the dose would be 10 per gallon. 1 drop per gallon would not reach the necessary therapeutic level. Double check, just in case I'm wrong or I didn't get your info straight, I do follow you and like your videos.
Hey Daniel, i said SEACHEM SAYS TO DOSE 20 DROPS PER GALLON BUT I DOSE 1 DROP PER GALLON. I dose half the recommended amount and it works great every time for the tanks i have worked on. dosing what seachem recommends is way to close to toxic levels and will kill fish if dosed improperly.
Rotter Tube Reef
Just a simple math clarification: Seachem directions is 20 drops for 10.5 gal or 2 drops per gallon. Half dosage would be 1 drop per gallon. You are still correct. I enjoy watching ur vid. Thanks for sharing and educating reefers.
I used copper coopremin,,dosed the first dosage I'm going to dose again in 48 hours. And wait 2 weeks,,after 2 weeks ,should I repeat prossse again,,I put in in my display tank,,only have fish and rock in it, no corral,,how long should I dose my tank
Hi Jose, 6 weeks. I dosed, then again after 48 hours, then did 50% water change after 2 days. then dosed, then dosed again after 48 hours, then 50% water change after that.....then dosed once a week, doing a water change of 50% at the end of each week. did this for 6 weeks.
What salt water do you use sir? Fresh salt water or syntetic salt water? If we use fresh salt water, do you think we can infect the main tank with the ich?
Hi Ami, I make my own saltwater. People have used fresh saltwater. I would imagine there could be a risk in bringing not only a parasite in, but pollutants.
Rotter Tube Reef how many percent we should water change in QT?
at least 50% or put a rock in the QT from your main tank.....so you have the biological filtration to keep ammonia out. you can never put that rock in your main tank again though because it will have cupramine / copper in it.
Rotter Tube Reef i did, and thankyou so muchh for your brilliant idea😍😍😍
What about water changes? 50% and then add 50% of the copper dose immediately back?
sure you can do that
@@ROTTERtube I've been watching all your videos and thank God I have been. Just transferred all of my fish into hospital tank after a week of getting everything set up. A few hours into dipping everyone I noticed one of my purple tangs covered in velvet or ich. Got everyone in copper and now to wait. Here's to doing it the right way!
glad you caught it!!!!
Good info! I didn't QT and got ich on a Powder Blue. I did what should have been done in the first place and QT'd all my fish and treated them with copper. Left my display tank without fish for 6 weeks. That was 4 years ago and ich hasn't returned. What a pain that was and I'll never allow an outsider in my display tank until they've proven themselves worthy. Tons of people telling me to feed garlic and that the fish could fight off the ich. Maybe in some cases that could happen but I wanted it out of my tank. This hobby already has enough lessons to learn so save yourself and your fish this one!
Good for you for doing the right thing! so many people are misinformed in this hobby, and life in general