Breadtube Doesn't Understand The Housing Crisis
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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#PhilosophyTube #UnlearningEconomics #Hasan
100k sub club, let's goooooo! Also, "homeless people buy houses" is hilarious, thanks PhilosophyTube.
Yeah!!
Let me take this opportunity to announce that my mango tree have dropped their 22th mango as of this week.
One king recognizes another.
Hey Carl, nice seeing you here.
Closing on target
Breadtuber: "boo capitalism!"
Also breadtuber: "my dreamhouse has a swimming pool, you guys!"
"No you don't understand! My 3 million dollar condo was earned through my thoughts and my labor so it's super socialist. Let's sing the nationale."
Capitalism bad.... Do I get a million dollars now?
@@CWB342 dont forget they dont let anyone else in and have secruity armed to the teeth with all the "evil guns" they try to ban from the "prolteraites" hands
I howled in laughter at that part
@@benjin3993 no but you get a lot of chicken tendies
Communist-sympathetic UA-camrs not understanding economics?
*surprised Pikachu face*
It’s so tiresome
More popcorn 🍿
Right wingers don't understand anything
Left Wingers don't understand anything
Philosophytube has a master's degree in philosophy. She knows exactly what she's doing with every single disingenuous assertion.
Why the female pronouns you ask? Oh, she'll tell you. In tedious depth.
_"Venezuela had the right idea."_
-PhilosophyTube probably.
He actually said that in the video! No probably about it!
Well if everybody is fleeing the country to escape starvation and political violence, it makes it a lot easier to provide housing for the remaining population.
"But then U.S happened"
@@TylerSolvestri that’s exactly what someone like him would say
It amazes me how socialists can at the same time praise Venezuela for their socialism and also complain that pointing at Venezuela as evidence their politics not working is unfair because it's not "real socialism".
As a venezuelan, hearing praise for Chavez triggers my fight or flight response.
Didn’t socialism kill venezuela?
Chavez stans are disturbing on a primal level.
@@yoyobeerman1289 the only people worse are Pol Pot apologists.
@@t.wcharles2171 idk man the "Stalin did nothing wrong" dudes are yikes
@@mango_raider4116 eh per capita Pol pots got the record pretty much secured
Imagine saying that "people with homes dont wanna buy more houses" then complain "few landlords are buying ALL the houses"
people move, upgrade, downsize, etc.
People with homes buy DIFFERENT houses every day all over the world because their needs change over time.
they need to think disconnected from reality (philosophize) less and look at the real world to get a better understanding of what they are thinking about.
What made my home purchase possible was buying it as multifamily. Zoning and occupancy laws (especially zoning laws) make it difficult to build this kind of housing, which is both efficient and affordable.
god i feel bad for the guy who thought explaining a real world issue as if it were a super hero comicbook series would make him look like anything other than a complete joke
Yeah the cringe is a bit much
I don't feel bad for him. What kind of soulless jackass makes light of real world tragedies like that?
Corporate investors did buy 15% of all homes in the first quarter this year according to an article in June. It does create a very bad trend.
@@DeusExNihilo I trust you’ve never made a joke about Hitler then? Stalin perhaps? His jokes are shit, don’t get me wrong, but they’re not shit because they’re about tragedies.
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf true. Good point
"Allow me to expound upon the difference between snacks and dirt."
-How you have to talk to these people.
😂 Thanks for the laugh.
To be fair for some brands I would rather eat dirt.
They don't want community. They act like they love strangers. It's the easiest way to act like a good person without the work.
Imagine thinking someone like Hasan loves his fellow man.
Lol.
@@fredo3161 He will act like he loves anyone he doesn't have to deal with at all. The random lowly immigrant has his bleeding heart.
And then treat the actual people in their life like expendable garbage.
Until someone has power over other people, there is no evidence of what kind of person they are.
Breadtube be like: why doesnt the gvmnt just buy everyone houses??? They have like infinite money!!
No joke I once got into an argument with someone saying that the US won't have the same fate as Venezuela or Zimbabwe if they keep printing money because "The government determines the value of the currency"
@@1810jeff hahahahaha that would be amazing! Our dollar is now worth 100 british pounds. All americans have fun being rich, yours sincerely the president😂🤣🤣🤣
They can print infinite houses, right? /s
Had this argument with someone, eventually cornered them and forced them to chose if housing is a human right. They eventually said "i guess not - not everyone wants a house and some want to rent or live in assisted care".
@@Icenri Yeah, but it costs money.
Breadtube and professional grifters: 2nd generation hipsters
Breadtube are professional grifters.
More like the know it all hippies form South park
The right are the definition of grifters
@@just_a_turtle_chad
Your answer has been edited from: reeeerreee
Corporate America is probably hoping that they are closer to the second generation of Hippies. Hippies went on to become Yuppies, some of the staunchest proponents of Capitalism in the 1980s. Once they have been allowed to ruin things enough by not resisting them, they may come around all on their own.
The biggest problem with that assumption is that they will ever come around. The YUP in Yuppie stood for 'Young Urban Professional', after all.
Some of these people have aged out of that probability window.
"Breadtube doesn't understand the housing crisis."
In other news: The sky is blue.
_Breaking news!_
The sun is currently going down! Darkness encroaches! Will the sun ever return!?
Maybe if our current administration stop giving money to unemployed maybe we should open the states up get to work like normal people.
Seeing all these right wingers being so moronic is funny lol 😂
@@just_a_turtle_chad hey man. Not sure why you posted a L out of nowhere, but you do you.
@@just_a_turtle_chad
Seeing all these left wingers being so moronic is funny lol 😂
"Just print more houses, duh." -Breadtubers
Homeless people should be given houses for free, and we should tax homeowners to pay for them. (Warning: Do not think about this for more than 2 seconds or you will become a bigot)
House printer go...?
This is an issue that is missing from this video. As long as governments are printing money, people who have money will invest in things that the government can't print more of.
I mean 3d printing houses is starting to become a thing to be fair
@@abrahamlincoln9758 I'm posting this without the warning to see what responses I get in Facebook.
Hassan piker: I would like to buy your house.
Me: the price just went up 100k.
Indeed.
Imagine buying a house in the rich part of L.A. while also larping as a socialist revolutionary.
You know I have a lot more respect for someone with more money saying "hmm maybe I do have a bit to much and things really suck for the poor" rather then a poorer person with the mindset of "take me daddy business owner"
That basically represents all the rich part of LA
Textbook "champagne socialist".
@@JohnAlcott238 They don't seem to ever want to give up their wealth.
as an introvert the idea of comunal housing gives me bad anxiety
aruna khilanani can help you with that
Tried it as student and hated it... Not even private bathroom... I'm happy to pay the extra for private space. Not that rents here are too bad.
@@_Ekaros i remember back at uni living in the dorms. I didn't think it was too bad for what I needed at the time. Granted, my communal bathroom only used by about 15 people total and rarely had more than 2 people in there at once. Most of the time it was rather private. That being said, I would gladly take my own house over communal housing any day.
It's ridiculous even for non introverts, no one likes this, idea is only ever proposed by those "communists" that live in mansions.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 I had a lot of good memories but for fuck sake people often behaved like morons. Vomiting all over the toilet or covering kitchen stoves in crap. Someone left gigantic trash bag in one of the toilet cabins. I even remember passing by cleaning lady and she silently said "what is with these people, they behave like animals" with some curse words. I felt embarrassed that people of my age behaved like that.
Living in a dorm for few years is fun and all. You get a lot of freedom and meet a lot of new people. Still it's only fun for few years then you get tired and just want a corner of your own.
Steve brings more value with his reviews of MREs than any communist.
Unironically true.
Nice.
Ain't that the truth.
Given that the value brought by communism is starvation, death and totalitarianism, the pigs that escape from a local farm and started shitting all over my lawn produced more value, or rather, less negative value, than communists.
So that is REALLY not saying something.
nice hiss.
Never seen philosophy tube, but his whole "Hello, fellow young allies! Jee wiz, life is like a comic book and modern Marvels are great, look how easy it is being smart" vibe is gross on a primal level. Is this how young/liberal people want to be spoken to? They really dont know what respect vs disrespect is.
not liberal, socialist
If you want to keep your sanity then stay off tiktok. A lot of young progressives talk like they're talking to a small child like in that video when they're trying to make a point to their audience.
@@ShortFatOtaku
You're right. My mistake. I should be more accurate in my terms/labels.
Her pronouns are she now. She transitioned recently I think.
@@porassrivastava8242 Bruh moment
Imagine being able to buy a million dollar house, and still think your one of the workers.
Especially when your job is bitching at a camera for hours.
It's a large group of them. My sister complains like she is one of them. She's got 2 houses.... My family has money. But she's the working class. She actually called me crying, saying she's scared of this unfair economy that just destroys it's employees.... She's had her down payments, initial investments, all sponsored.... Literally could stop working now, and be taken care of the rest of her life, and she's one of the working class.
I hate what this ideology does to people.
@@Tential1Feel free to blast William Shatner's Common People at her and inform her, members of the working class hate her for trying to be one of us.
"Although, another comic book writer called Hugo Chavez"
oh lord, here we go...
wait up, so right off the bat you've got a guy saying and I quote, "you can't have a housing market without homeless people because if everyone had housing no one would buy houses"............as if vacation homes don't exist and people never move 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And renters looking to buy aren’t real.
And houses don’t decay
And kids never leave their family's house (yes, I know that's part of moving, but it's a bit different)
That sentence has so much retardation, Thomas Sowell could write full book explaining why it is wrong.
Or young people buying/renting their first home, people looking to renovate and flip homes, people using real-estate as an investment/hedge against inflation, etc.
Philosophy tude is the person who comes across the definition of communism and then tells everyone they should conform to it without doing any further research
And the definition was most likely written by another communist.
@@christophershafer1857 communism (noun): all the good things
@@borkguy In a nutshell.
@@priapulida
“Actually, the (bad people) lie to you about how good (your opinions) are. Your opposition to (my ideology) is proof of this!”
Yeah, they're a whole hypocrite, it's all flash with Philosophy Tube, base line shit, looking pretty yet when you research they're making BANK while basically going "eat the rich"
"Labour cannot create more supply of land."
Alexander the Great building a land bridge to Tyre: pathetic.
Alex: Hold my wine.
Me who graduated from a college that was literally built on a landfill extending land onto a body of water.....interesting. (California Maritime Academy)
@@hengineer Fake lands tends to erode faster. Then again, the only evidence i got are those Chinese islands. And communism isn't know for producing quality work. So maybe I am wrong.
*THE DUTCH WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*
How long was that bridge again? All I remember is that it was long enough that it was the first of its size, and that Tyre started getting really freaked out.
"If everyone has a cell phone, there'd be no cell phone market."
See the problem?
Ok, so, recap: Turning affordable housing into expensive housing through rent control -> good
but
gentrification -> bad
What?
Literally just "Stay in your lane, poor people."
"Breadtube Doesn't Understand..." could be its own series.
I'd watch it.
I would probably make it if I start a channel. Would be fun
@@29-arnavsamant97 you already have a channel
@@siyacer bruhh, i meant if I start uploading videos
Honestly, it would be infinitely easier to point out the things they DO understand lol
If a Breadtuber understand economics they wouldn't be a Breadtuber.... that being said being a Breatuber does bring you a pile of cash, so maybe there are grifters (that understand economics) who became Breadtuber.
Well you don’t have to understand economics to understand money is good. They want money, they could still have no clue about economics.
@@refundreplay Yup. If you actually knew some shit you wouldn't be creative enough to say most of the dumb shit they say lol
If you stare too long into the void.....
Unlearning Economics is an economics professor himself. I became aware of him because he did a series of videos criticising and debunking other breadtubers for their bad arguments concerning economics; including PhilosophyTube's Housing Crisis vid, and Shaun's vid arguing for nationalisation of the railways.
"If a person hates their job, or has an asshole boss, wants to go protest or get out and get involved in politics..."
Wee bit transparent in motive, there. Maybe the ability to hollow out the economy over personal misgivings or social hangups isn't a great idea, just sayin'.
You might want to take a look at what Nietzsche said about tarantulas. He perfectly summarized a large part of the modern left.
That monologue was absolutely horrific. Painting is not the same as going to work. Union organising is also not work. Confession by projection. The dude wants to be privileged gentry from the 1800s.
why does the troon switch accents?
Ugh. No kidding. I hate the "he doesn't HAVE to work" nonsense. As if people only work because some meany makes them and not because we are exchanging labor to keep each other alive.
They should read the parts of marx that says no work means no food.
PhilosophyTube referring to real world history with comic book terms makes me feel violently angry.
How many of these people have visited ex-USSR countries and looked at the neighborhoods built during the time of state ownership of houses?
There are plenty of people who praise those "wonderful" blocks... defending it by them having some park and leisure areas preplanned, while in large cities the current market situation is that every newly built, sub-par apartments can be sold with insane profits for constructors and realtors. The problem is that these cities are the only source of jobs for a lot of professions - therefore too many people want to live in them.
This all lead to these old shitty blockhouses having a renaissance.
@@istvanczap3004also many eastern European countries are trying to build up their own architecture with some based on history in order to escape the Soviet style era. Almost everyone I met hates those Soviet area buildings and are only kept alive because of it being too costly to replace them and the old generation who are still stuck living in the past.
None of them
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 That's bullshit. Those soviet style houses are fucking awesome and well built, compared to new buildings where your walls crack after 5 years because of someone cutting costs. They aren't pretty from the outside but I have lived in them my whole life and its so convenient. Also its pretty obvious otaku never seen one in person from what he thinks they are like.
What’s even worse is if you look at the full Cities that have been being built in China.
They look like the Soviet Blocs but more modern and more empty.
They build an entire Paris themed City that I would wager has less than 100,000 people in it.
Edit: Damnit he mentioned them already
Breadtube: We need more rent control.
Me who read Thomas Sowell's books: That's a very bad idea.
All of them?
@@James_Bee Not all of them. His more recent books and of course Basic Economics.
I wish I could upvote this more than once
Thomas Sowell is an intellectual titan. I'd love to see him go one on one with a Breadtuber
Me: Struggling to find a 2 bedroom house for $220,000 without a big co-opt fee that isn't in a high crime area.
Breadtuber: We need to abolish housing ownership because the house in the gated community I wanted to pay 1 million for went for 1.7 million instead!
There are some 1k SQ ft houses out there for that price in TN or KY that aren't in high crime areas.
You could move to Ohio....I'm sure there's a house for sale somewhere....for that money here.
Prices in AZ are sky high from all the Californians
"Breadtube Doesn't Understand"
True.
Someone explained to me once why they call themselves breadtubers. I have forgotten why and it sounds stupid and confusing.
@@kaigen999Probably because their ideology consists of waiting in hour long breadlines for starvation portions
So...the 'state' gives you stuff, manages every aspect of it, including the forceful distribution of said thing, but also doesn't really control it?
It takes a special kind of academic intelligence to come to that conclusion.
They're socialists or communists that wish they were anarchists, but even then the problem with anarchist social organizations is everyone needs a heavy dose of personal responsibility and prudence to be functional citizens that make it work...anathema to most people who either want daddy government to do all the work or lick the boot of the system that exploits them. Basically anyone capable of succeeding at maintaining an anarchist society is a libertarian nowadays. You have to be self-governing, and most of these people can't even clean their rooms as Jordan Peterson would say.
32:00 this is probably why simple living and slice of life mangas are so popular. The idea that you suddenly become a land owner and slowly attract friends and family over time to stay and live near and with you
That comic 'gag'(?) was cringe af, but I suppose emblematic of the problem -- a cartoonish and 2-dimensional view of the topic.
It's like people who frame morality with Harry Potter anecdotes it's just bizarre.
The comics analogy they are using is cringe as hell.
It's like an adult tryna use superman and Batman to explain some stupid shit to their children so the child laps it up better 🤣🤣
@@porassrivastava8242 exactly. Communists are children
I wanted to make a snarky ironic comment about how his quirky personality and comic book analogies made communism more relatable, but then he referred to the soviet union as fanfiction and I just...
I have no words. "Wasn't real communism" is just that deeply ingrained.
Yup.
That got tired REAL god damn quick, it comes across as so forced and contrived. It reminds me of a "quirky" tumblr post that just went too far.
Dev: Can't build more land
Japan, and Dubai: Hold our beers
Netherlands: AMATEURS!!
“Leave work...to join a union” ah yes the most lucrative union of all, the unemployment union
Wow, people who say "give everybody everything for free" don't understand economics & restrictive supply, who knew?
They don't believe we could have a limited supply except artificially.
Or value. You can say give everyone a home, but even if you built all the houses identically certain locations the homes are built on will still be nicer or more convenient than others and thus more valuable. How do you decide who lives in those more valuable homes? Whats more the people who live in various homes will take care of or let their homes go to various degrees, altering their quality and thus value over time. Their communist/solutions would only work if the entire world was an unchanging flat plain and everyone treated their homes the same.
And a sentence later they complain typing on their iPhone on Twitter about resource wasting leading to environmental destruction
They also don't understand that time and human energy are also finite; although to be fair, communists place absolutely zero value on other humans' time and energy. Or just zero value on other humans, in general.
I have so many friends that are left leaning that last year they didn't see a problem with the economy crashing (they're Bernie supports so that tells you everything). And I saw a lot of them joke about "Well if the housing market crashes maybe I'll be able to afford a house!" I kept face palming so hard. If the economy crashes yes the price of the house goes down but your money will be worth jack shit. My generation is so economically stupid. God help us all.
Or, the value of the land will skyrocket because it’s far more useful than money. But yeah, they have 0 concept of what’s going on.
@@johnbuscher You mean like whats happening right now? Why did Bill Gates buy up so much land before COVID hit? Does he know something that we dont?
I bought my first home recently. My savings may soon be worthless, but at least my mortgage payment is fixed for the next 30 years.
@@danieldorn2927 Probably nothing specific, wealthy people "park" their money in property, because its a good inflation hedge.
He could’ve been planning an expansion of Microsoft, but his plans were changed by Covid. Conspiracies do exist, but being stupidly gullible doesn’t help your case.
they way this dude is painting all this fucking ridiculous. "spin-off fan-fiction set in russia. pretty controversial"
kinda speaks for itself
Peak fucking man-child hours
Meh, I can give the guy artistic licence on that one. Basically by using comic book allegories and visual references he makes himself more entertaining to listen to. It's a style, a way to make his content different and more attractive than his peers. I can respect that a lot more than the Hassan "let me clip 30mn of a stream, that'll make a youtube video" style of doing things.
@@nathansalvetti8232 it’s just so detached from the reality of it. Like he thinks he’s a super hero that’s gonna bring us to a glorious Star Trek style future
@@nathansalvetti8232 It’s still just two piles of bullshit, one’s just more fun than the other.
@@qujo123 I can see why you'd have that reaction. I still think analyzing the world like one would a story written by an author can be a rather interesting, if not particularly insightful, point of view. You can also easily make it colourful and visually appealing and rely on a wealth of already established and well known graphical assets to easily make videos that definitely cannot be called dreary.
Long story short, I wouldn't call it smart nor well thought out, but it definitely piques the interest.
The problem of course, and I believe that this is what prompted your negative gut reaction to that guy's content, is that this viewpoint places the youtuber as the critic of reality. As someone that is, like a comic book critic, separate from the subject matter, omniscient as far as this subject goes, and the authority on what is good and bad. Combined with political and economical hot takes, I can definitely see where your reaction is coming from.
Again though, good on the guy to try something a bit different and interesting for his videos. There are some unintended negative connotations, but I like that there is at least some creative process going on there. Again, compare and contrast with barely edited 30mn stream clips.
"housing isn't to be consumed"
Ginger Bread Houses!
I'm glad that I still visit Indiana every year. There's definitely a sharp contrast between the superficiality of LA and the genuineness of the Midwest. Here, I'm mostly alone, just focusing on myself and my own projects. In Indy, I'm the neighborhood werewolf on Halloween, and I'd never miss the opportunity to bring that much joy to people.
Well if they're homeless then why don't they just buy a home
exactly, its like how people with asthma dont just breathe like bro just breathe smh
OMG I’ve never thought of that!!! 😱 like duh so obviously! LOL😜🤪🤣😂😄😆
I had stage 3 cancer and they wanted me to do chemo, but I just bought a cancer survivor t-shirt. life hack!
@@abrahamlincoln9758 lol you owned big pharma
@@abrahamlincoln9758 this is so awful it’s brilliant 😂 👏
9:00 Did that guy just idolize Hugo Chavez and Venezuela?
I refuse to believe anyone is that foolish. He's not ignorant, just another evil liar.
But it also wasn't real socialism and saying Venezuela is socialist is a starwman
@@Nathan-jh1ho Nothing is real socialism and there is nothing to be learned from the fact every group of self described socialists who have ever succeeded immediately became terrible.
I have never understood the appeal of LA. It has always looked like hell to me. The beautiful rich-people homes could be located anywhere and be just as or more worth it as far as I’m concerned.
Same, really just any city. I like for me and my neighbors to have yards so we can have space from one another. Not have 4 neighbors a knock on a wall away.
@MegaProudAlbanian I'll definitely admit, certain jobs do benefit more greatly from big cities like LA. But also, would say its reasonable to say that not everyone needs to flock to such places for their careers.
@MegaProudAlbanian oh I completely understand, that's why I like my smaller town living and will tell people not to completely disregard it. In fact, there can definitely be valuable merit. Specifically why I said that I like me and my neighbors having a yard. You have more room to be yourself.
LA does have a kooky charm that can grow on you if you look for it.
And the weather is definitely awesome.
But the shitty things you've heard about LA are not untrue.
@@libertatemadvocatus1797 that's what my housemate tells me. As he grew up near there. There's charm and things you can find there to match your interests. But for me, I don't want to live there. It's more of a go there for fun and vacation.
Shoutout to Henry George (the guy who invented Georgism, the philosophy that inspired Monopoly) who hated socialism AND landlords. Back in the late 1800s he predicted the main problems with socialism, stating it would lead to "demagoguery and dictatorship", long before there were any clear examples. His book, "Progress And Poverty", is still prescient to this day.
"Labor cannot create any more land"
The Netherlands: *YOU DARE CHALLENGE ME, MORTAL*
Not gonna lie, as a guy with a business degree, it's tedious to watch someone say what is obviously basic common sense in response to people who totally lack any (commies), but sometimes it's needed.
Thoughts on Georgism aka Land Value Tax?
Support or nah?
@@danielsurvivor1372 me personaly (I have no degree) I always found land value weird....like so....a skyscraper in the middle of nowhere town...would have almost no land value.....but a small house in a big city would have big land value.....just because there are more skyscrapers nearby.......like you're telling me....other people's property....contribute to the value of my property........it just doesn't make sense......like if I added an expensive pool to my house...would that increase my neighbors' houses.......why....they can't access the pool.........
@@danielsurvivor1372 taxes in general are many cans of worms, but I can't say I'm a fan. I'm not a fan of property taxes either. For most considerations I would rather a flat income tax of 18-20%, no deductions for anyone, and then a reverse income tax for everyone making below poverty line. Keep it simple, keep the beauruecracy low, and make it predictable so future state incomes can be very precisely calculated for budget purposes.
@@jackalenterprisesofohio To explain its weirdness a little: cities are areas of commerce, a marketplace, where transactions can happen rapidly involving many different parties. This means that cities have logistical constraints on where they can actually be located related to getting goods and people to the specific marketplace. Major cities are located on large rivers and coasts for this exact reason: boats remain a powerful form of transport. Thus, geography plays a significant role in where a city can go, and due to the low supply of such land and the high demand for it (being everyone who wants to engage in the marketplace at a prospective city) that land becomes valuable. Unsurprisingly, as railroads and air transit proliferated, cities began to be placed elsewhere, see Denver. As for the other uses land might have, well, there's lots of room for wheat, and it's less picky than shipping containers.
“We’re not communists, we’re socialists!”
8:23 - You own nothing and you’ll be happy about it.
He had me at 'my good example is Venezuela! The place where they're currently running out of rats to eat.'
If you’re a Socialist with no intent on reaching the Commie promised land. I believe that is just being a Fascist.
@@Eirik_Bloodaxe Exactly. It's literally just all the same shite.
"Communism is murder, socialism is suicide. In the end, the results are the same."
Ayn Rand.
When you have even a rudimentary grasp of economics, most left wing takes sound like outlandish conspiracy theories. Lol
To be fair, some of them can seem reasonable. Until you take the very simple train of thought to realize their ideas necessitate a totalitarian government.
And then the slightly more complex train of thought to realize they wouldn't work even after you sell out your freedom.
@I only use this account when I get put in time outI honestly wish the tube would let me bookmark this.
Lived in California, and recently left. I can tell you now that the housing market is last on the list of reasons to leave. The state has been run into the ground, the government fills their pockets while the infrastructure crumbles.
Edit to add this: there was a neighborhood of around 400 homes that the state of CA transportation dept owned. They charged taxpayers to maintain, and patrol these 400 houses since 1976. The reason? They were going to make a thoroughfare that never got off the ground. These houses were left vacant for 50 years
Breadtube doesn't understand a lot of topics they claim to have the deepest of understanding in. It seems like it's a thing common among people who believe that private ownership of property is a problem.
“Nobody owns the land!” And thus, no one will maintain it. We see this time and again. You must give someone a feeling of entitlement and control over something for them to take care of it. Otherwise, it very quickly becomes the “Broken Window” effect.
You may be thinking of the Tragedy of the Commons, which is the tendency for common property to fall into disrepair, disuse, or become fallow due to negligence, as communal property has no individual owner (and therefore no-one is incentivized to take care of it). The Broken Window fallacy has to do with the assumption that destroying things (as in war) is good for the economy because it creates jobs when, in reality, it is merely an inefficient reallocation of resources.
@@rkplblenny I think op is actually referring the similarly titled Broken Window Theory in criminology not economics. (Confusing I know. )
That's the theory that states that visible signs of crime, anti-social behavior, and civil disorder create an urban environment that encourages further crime and disorder, including serious crimes.
The name in this case come from an illustrative example;
Youths break a factory window out of boredom. If no one replace the factory window or charge the youths then breaking factory windows is a unconquestion act.
And thus more factory windows are broken. Soon windows in the local area are also broken.
This is how HOAs work. If people feel that their neighbors will effect the value of their land they're more likely to be proactive about maintenance, especially if they know their neighbor can't do it themselves (cutting neighbors yard because theyre injured for instance because it increase their home price)
@@OlaftheFlashy Yeah, it does make more sense that way. Since the OP was about economics, I figured he meant the economic variant, not the criminology variant. Good catch.
They really show thier stupidity when they say either nobody will own something or the workers will collectively decided something.
A goverment bureaucracy will be created to manage whatever they are talking about
Philosophy tubes comic book analogy is cringe af.
I’m so glad I never got interested in comics past the age of 7
One thing I hate about Philosophy tubes and Contrapoints is how much time they waste on quirky presentation instead of just going to the point. It is almost as if they need all that glitter to cover their bullshit...
philosophy Tube's talking about heroes and villains is actually unbearable. Maybe they really do think that reality is as simple as a comic-book.
Comics are cool and interesting tho well at least the pre2016 ones
Everything has to be a comic book or Harry Potter analogy with these people
I feel you could start a video series called "Breadtube doesn't understand X."
I doubt that would work in the long run. Even though some of videos made by BreadTube were response videos to dissident right wingers or conservatives, almost no one except BPS and I, Hypocrite (only on Odyssee) responded to them because of how pointless it is at that point.
Even though Styxhexandhammer and far-leftists pointed that UA-cam has recently demonized them for not being in the mainstream media, BreadTubers still grew artificially while conservatives were suppressed artificially or outright banned if they go too far outside of the Overton Window.
My most "commie" opinion is on this topic. Housing should be quite strictly regulated and it should be an ideal that 'everyone' has the opportunity to own their own home. It is not a good thing that companies can buy entire streets or housing blocks, it forces people to rent who otherwise could have owned the same apartment or house.
In my state, California, Governor Gavin Newson is thinking of demolishing abandoned malls then turn that land into houses, but zoning laws prevented that. So some of them would be used as a marketplace for the homeless.
I see Dev's discovered the Austrian School...
Yes, Rent Control leads to a paradox of high homelessness and a high count of empty units. In NYC, it's not at all unheard of for a landlord to inform his tenants of a fire starting tonight, move everyone out, and then for there to be a fire in that rental, as newer "apartment" units will be rebuilt as condominiums. Rent controlled apartments offer no long term profitability, meaning if a landlord is to make a profit, several other things happen. Non-controlled apartment prices rise, "non-rental apartments" i.e. condos rise, and apartment quality nosedives because if you can't make money with a higher price to consume, you make money by cutting product quality, and a roach motel costs less to upkeep than an actual rental.
You also tend to find that rent-controlled apartments DON'T get taken by the poor, they get taken by the savvy rich who realize that eventually a rent controlled apartment becomes marketable after all the other rental properties cost rise, meaning it's not all that heard of for a NY studio apartment to be owned by some rich person who uses it as an office after it's snatched by an investor who realizes what a deal a rent-controlled apartment is, something a poor person cannot take advantage of.
Rent control doesn't work, it has never worked, and the only reason people advocate for it is feel-good quantum woo or cynical politicians trying to whip the people up with bread and circus sloganeering.
i am not a pure austrian, i have already noted one instance in this video where hayek was wrong.
@@ShortFatOtaku Hayek is not a pure Austrian either. Most of his ideas came from the austrian school, however there were a few that were quite diferent an example: he believed in a quite sizable welfare state and in goverment intervention in economic areas that lack private investment. Misses is the true pure austrian he founded the austrian school and created its principles. Hayek just took some of Misses ideas(and forgot about a lot of good ones) and put a bit economic leftism to please the elites and ensure his Nobel economic prize nomination
Hayek is the weakest Austrian, but the easiest way in.
@@ShortFatOtaku Someone else mentioned, you're coming to many of the same conclusions about rent control the Austrians did and the argument itself you employed is pretty 1:1 Austrian, though I had Sowell in mind as opposed to Friedman (who is too far into an-capistan for my tastes). I genuinely mean this, the script for this vid does sound like it could come straight out of Sowell's Basic Economics, everything you mention is in that tome of a read somewhere, hence the comment.
@@theemperor7877 i recently finished a hoppe book and he is cancerous
As an actual worker, I'm fucking floored that people like Brown Fabio are speaking on behalf of me.
Never would I have ever guessed that a person who knows little about economy, has worked one month in their entire life, earns 10 times more than the average worker, would be suboptimal representatives for workers.
Same, I was born into a relatively poor family. After working just a bit and some planning, I'm getting my life to be in a relatively decent state. And if I keep it up, I'll be fairly well off. And if I teach my kid my experiences and guide him along his, he may turn out down a similar path to me.
I've applied to several jobs just trying to move boxes for minimum wage and was passed up for "people with more experience".
I call bullshit.
I want to work and get my debt paid off.
And I am so pissed people are perpetrating this lie.
If you had six months experience moving boxes at 30 and you were passed over for a young buck aged 21 with no experience.
Or maybe they just didn’t like you? Your own business avoids that question entirely. The “market” owes you nothing.
Have empathy for you. It sucks. But time to man up.
@UCu81qBzsdGQLwKOfNaV8PtQ I seriously don’t think you were going for jobs with the kind of people complaining like that. Not every industry is struggling for staff.
It’s unhelpful to listen to employers whinging, because it doesn’t benefit you at all... they usually want quality people at minimum wage. Doesn’t happen. The bosses paying double minimum wage aren’t complaining.
Don’t get discouraged. Job hunting is a complete gamble. Every single time.
Depending on where you're applying, you may find more success in smaller companies.
Construction trades and landscaping are always hard up for work where I am. You may have more luck handing out a resume in front of Home Depot.
That hometown argument was pure gold and nearly every millennial needs to hear. Unless you seriously consider working in entertainment, there can't be any possible need to move to a place like LA or NY.
I can feel your maple syrup Canadian accent whenever you say "houwsing."
Dude was for real saying “it worked in comic books”….
Never understood the appeal of a city. Packed in on top of each other with no privacy, nowhere to escape from the drone of cars or people passing by. This is why I think the cottage core aesthetic is so awesome because it glamorizes being self sufficient, returning to more humble roots and appreciating small but meaningful parts of life. It's humbling.
My "dream house" is a nice little place on the edge of the woods, close enough to town to be convenient but far enough away for privacy.
Cities maximise proximity benefits for business. It’s a more profitable place to be. There are substantial downsides but you can still be in the suburbs of a big city. Also, there is a big difference between 50k, 500k and 5 million. Or 25 million!!
@@Xplora213 that's exactly why small town/suburban life is, imo, superior. It's the best of both worlds. Community, privacy, and convenience.
u dont hate cities. u hate cars
The only reason I like cities is because I had the chance to live in the most beautiful parts or near the most beautiful parts of very old cities.
When you get to see fantastic works of art by just taking the bus or walking around your home, it certainly does make it justified, but that’s about it in terms of why I’d personally « want to » live in a city, the only other reason would be the necessity of living there for work, so not exactly my dream life.
You can and will never “ solve “ homelessness
Some people want to be homeless
Yeah like smack heads, you give them enough money to buy a house, they’re gonna buy smack with it
There are even incredibly rich people who are technically “homeless” because they love traveling/globetrotting.
Sure, they stay in the nicest hotels, But so would any homeless.
And please believe me giving the homeless a bottomless credit card to rent different hotel and motel rooms is not an answer.
_Someone's never heard of Death Squads..._
My friend from high school ended up becoming a migrant working and he loves his camping life. The only time he talks about owning property is in the context of wanting to garden
Yeah dude you nailed it, I grew up in the suburbs with a nice family, spent my early twenties living outside cause I liked it and didn't wanna stay in my home town, saved up enough to buy a boat with all the rent I didn't pay and now I'm globe trotting like a rich kid xD
I'm glad you mentioned that it is entirely possible to maintain communities within the limits of cities. I have a house just outside NYC and my family thinks I'm missing out on academic and social opportunities for my kids by staying here. The thing is, I am actually part of a local community here, and engage regularly with the ethnic communities in other boroughs. It's not little league and bake sales, but my neighbors and I actually do interact well beyond the occassional chat.
Another angle on housing prices that you should explore is the effect of zoning on housing. Preventing companies from building high occupancy dwellings (tenament houses) prevents there being an viable low end to the housing market, leading to homelessness. Preventing single family homes from being turned into apartment complexes artificially constrains supply of homes where people want to live, leading to higher rents. Commercial vs residential zoning is another way supply is artificially controlled. The housing market is overzoned. Zoning reform alone won't fix the issues but it would help a lot.
Is this dude seriously calling Venezuela's Hugo Chavez as a hero?
Despite all the "not real socialism" and "muh vuvuzela" coming out of the socialists, they really were confident about Venezuela back in the day.
@@eightbittemplar7394 yeah it was pretty funny seeing them ignoring the children selling their bodies to earn food, or the people trying to catch rats to eat.
@@porassrivastava8242 or the fact Chavez and his cronies eat like kings while his people starve.
why does Hassan use the F word so much? im not anti-swearing, but he says it more than a 16 year old stoner.
If you look into how spoiled the prick is you'll realize he REALLY doesn't have to work yet he grifts the poor on Twitch.
I gotta say, of all the internet pinkos out there, I find Cenk's Nephew to be by far the most irritating.
@@eightbittemplar7394 He's a whole culture vulture and broke ass people clap while he complains about some seller breaking even on a fucking house.
Dev has taken Arch's advice on focusing on one good video a week! we may all thank Arch for Dev's quality content!
this is your way of saying it's good, eh? :P
There's something to be said about a breadtuber complaining about not being able to buy a million dollar house.
There is usually some redeeming quality of a bad idea. But not BreadTube.
"Breadtube doesn't understand..."
Yes
At this rate the only way to buy a house is grift like wild and say cash out when the movement gets too violent
I mean for you, you can pay the rent by showing them more traps. :^)
Can't say that isn't a smart idea
Let me guess
"More houses than homeless UwU"
Yus
Lol
Literally
Honestly it's Government fault for inserting ridiculous regulations that spike up prices in California.
The only good regulation is Land Value Tax, every other one like rent control only make things worse
@@danielsurvivor1372 Didn't they quite literally limit the number of floors a newly built case is allowed to have in order to keep the prices up and homelessness high?
I own my house. I take that back I still have to pay property tax. I like how all the people who complain about people not being able to afford houses also support property tax. Which makes it impossible to fully own your property no questions asked.
The issue with housing is the fact that it changed from viewing houses and apartments as dwellings to investments. Instead of buying and selling based on location now there is potential gain added to the cost. Plus investors taking good housing off the market to hold or rent when someone could just buy and live there. I get so many investors trying to buy my family’s property.
I worked my ass off and as a result my family of 4 are getting the keys as a first time home owner on friday. This video is surprisingly well timed. Thanks for putting this out dev
I think Breadtube Doesn't Understand would've worked better
Oh, c’mon.
Breadtube knows… how to breathe…. And…
Make mouth noises…
@@Snakedude4life Do they? I’m not convinced some of these people are real and we’re just seeing high-grade CGI.
@@johnbuscher
I refuse to believe that these “People” chose these appearances and not cute anime girls.
One thing I'd like to mention in regards to the housing issues where I live (Alberta). In Alberta, we got large numbers of people moving to Alberta (largely from other provinces) for jobs, who seek out relatively nice houses. This led to a massive increase in demand for upper middle income houses with more features that drive up the price of said houses, leading to a massive focus on said houses practically exclusively. What followed was a large number of foreigners coming in seeking cheaper houses, in an environment where none were being built. The current housing development in Alberta (at least in regards to the major cities) are large, expensive houses with lots of modern features such as solar panels and smart housing features, over cheaper easier to make houses that are more affordable.
The end result of the tl;dr above is that housing prices are going up on average due to an absolute dirth of cheaper houses being constructed, and the market is being utterly glacial in swapping priorities (especially because a housing project typically lasts multiple years, so a lot of housing projects are operating under assumptions from 2012-2015).
Is there space to actually build the low-cost housing/apartments? I'm hoping you don't succumb to the same geographical idiocy that doomed the Bay Area and New York City.
That sounds kind of like where I live. There's still plenty of land available to develop, but all the new construction is McMansions and luxury condos/apartments. I really lucked out with my current place, but for a long time in my search I thought I was never going to find something in my price range that didn't have major structural problems, hadn't been flooded multiple times, or hadn't been previously used as a meth lab. It do be like that.
“ Is there space to actually build the low-cost housing/apartments?”
It’s generally wide open prairie farmland or boreal forest in every direction.
@@scitechian There is absolutely massive amounts of land, and people to build on said land, but all those people are building fancy, longer to build places.
Hasan not even a year later : buys a million dollar house
Make it 3.
“If socialists understood economics
they wouldn't be socialists.”
-Friedrich Hayek
Nazis and nassar seemed quite involved and I think they remained quite successful right idea wrong time now that the world's went soft I fascist society is ready
"Labor cannot produce more supply of land."
This claim is disputed by the Dutch
And also Disney probably
Land reclamation projects notwithstanding.
Time to build floating cities!
O'Neill Cylinders. At some point we WILL find a way to make more land, a lot more.
That biggest problem with the housing crisis in north America is the zoning laws. So much of the problem could be solved if the laws didn't effectively ban the construction of midrise buildings. Intstead we have downtowns with highrise (that are way too expensive) and a suburban sprawl outsite the city centers (which use land very ineffiently). The laws also have quota system to make sure that vast majority of houses are single family homes.
I just became a first time home owner and I feel extremely blessed to have this opportunity, but at the same time, it's not easy...As you said, you have hidden things in a house that you find out later after you buy it and people are paying cold hard cash when buying these houses...it took quite a while to find something and the only reason we were able to get this house is because the pending offer before us fell through. We swooped in immediately for asking price and waiving inspection. This place is AWESOME, but there is a lot of work to do and you find out that certain things aren't up to code....basically, be ready to spend 30k more than what the house is...the good news though, the house gained 50k equity immediately after our purchase so, there's that.
Speaking as a landlord if you don't want the rent to be so high, maybe don't leave the walls full of holes and paint scratches, break the toilet, break the shower, reroute the heating system wiring to an outdoor outlet that produces 220 volts and switches on and off based on the thermostat (for god knows why), break the cabinet doors, leave the yard full of debris with literally no grass just weeds, leave the lawnmower that was provided out in the rain for a year so it doesn't work, scatter pistachio shells all over the place, and finally do your own "handiwork" where all the screws are drilled in every possible orientation except perpendicular to the surface.
Then maybe I won't feel the need to jack the rent up as high as possible.
I wish I was under 10 years old so I could understand philosophy tube.
about small hometowns being a steppingstone to a metropolis, there's not just "new people, new experiences etc." there's also one major factor: opportunities and the various emplyment paths. the former is probably far more applicable in north america, where the latter is more applicable in australasia.
my hometown is a dead end for careers for the majority of it. tertiary education was very slim pickings, there was very little career advancement beyond supermarket department manager, partially skilled labour, or industrial/meatworks manager. I left the place because there was nothing for me there other than to rot in decline while spinning my wheels going nowhere. I have a saying about that town: "there are 3 things to do here; get drunk, get in a fight, get someone knocked up. most people manage to do 2 of those each weekend"
the only thing better I noticed in my hometown was cheaper rent and cheaper houses, though that difference is exacerbated by the city I'm now in having been slammed by an earthquake 10 years back, and a rush of tradesmen and other workers worsened a huge supply issue with housing that was already bad after the quakes basically erased a few suburbs worth of buildings.
One more thing to consider about land: even if land somehow were infinite, it would still likely behave in the same way it does right now, because the land within some reasonable distance of other important things is always going to be limited. A housing crisis is about the density of housing in relation to the attractiveness of an area. Eg if the area has lots of (decently paying) jobs, but little housing, then the price of housing in that area would be high. This would be true even if land was effectively infinite.
Big thing that people in USA including these tubers don't seem to understand that after certain size of city single family homes just aren't realistic anymore. Most other parts of word go for much higher density...
Land effectively is infinite, there's an average of about 100'000 square feet per family in the United States. If everyone lived on a theoretical infinite plane most wouldn't want to live quadrillions of lightyears away from everyone else, the land closer to things want to be near would be more valuable despite "it's all just land".
This corresponds to reality where you can easily buy a plot of land for very little in the open plains of Montana with only one caveat... It's in the open plains of Montana.
The value of land is its proximity to other land.
Why is PhilosophyTube acting like this is a comic book? Last time I checked, comic books have a plot that goes in favor of the protagonists, real life, not so much.
Leftists have to relate everything in real life to some pop culture reference.
Even comics don't have things going for the protagonists all the time.
"doctors, construction workers, and architects need to all work for free so i can be happy" how many more can we add to the list bois
its everyone, and we all know it. socialism requires slavery.
>Breadtube doesn't understand...
You can complete that with anything and you'd still have a strong topic
I watched that PTube video, where he does the "comic book" analysis of Housing, when it came out. I unsubbed after that.
It was his praise of the Venezuelan Collectivos.
The problem with Neomarxists, well, with any Hegel-derived Political Authoritarians, is that coercion is REQUIRED once they take hold of your society. I'd rather struggle in a hardcore libertarian world, where my enemies are lack and the uncaring natural world, than the hardcore Socialist/communist world, where my enemies are my society, at any random moment.
@@bfFAN221 James Lindsey has a great video about it over on his New Discourses channel. I'll post a link after this comment.
My understanding of Hegel, at this point is that he's a freaky Prussian wizard. Kind of a dude-bro distillation, but gets straight to the point.
I listened to Lindsey's vid about him and on a hunch, rooted around on the internet for info, and my hunch was true.
Anarchism (Bakunin and Proudhon), as well as Fascism (Gentile) and Hitler... all followers of Hegel,nor some aspect. It's as if Hegel took a shit, and the craziest, worst people kept it as a holy relic.
I also have a hunch that Mary Shelley's character, Victor Von Frankenstein was at least vaguely inspired by Hegel. She published Frankenstein in 1818, and the bulk of Hegels work was published before that. Just a hunch, because, in my mind, Hegel was the crazy scientist who created monsters, and as a British writer, in a growing Liberal world, she must have picked up on that.
Me: My family rented the house in the South but I still need an apartment near my workplace in the North
Breadtube: NANI?
Imagine using Venezuela as your success story
I think people have forgotten houses for single men (and women). Where it was essentially a dorm with single, double, or more per room. A house “mother” would cook and clean and the tenants could get 2 meals a day. It allowed young folks to get out on their own and transition while there was usually some staff helping them. We’ve moved away from that and now everyone needs a full apartment - further consuming valuable land and driving up costs for everyone.
People need the pod or whatever to transition to the big cities. Usually you want the ones without bugs in the beds or on the menu.
Here is a thought.
Stop paying people , who can't afford to have children, to have children.
Let me introduce you to a piece of literature;
A modest proposal.
Very interesting read.👌
@@Snakedude4life the other red meat 🥩