Part 2 of Reti4, Greyjedi91, Evannova95, Jensaarai1 and Antoine Bandele's Fanalysis of "Star Wars: Labyrinth of Evil" Here we cover Chapters 19-38. We hope you enjoy!
I completely agree with your guys' thoughts on Grievous. LoE and the tie in comics which revealed his backstory made him one of my favorite characters in Star Wars because he's essentially a tragic anti-hero who's perfectly justified in his desire for vengeance. He lost his family, friends and everybody he'd ever known because the Republic was so mired in corruption and the Jedi Order was so blinded by their loyalty to the Republic that they were willing to commit genocide on his people simply because theyhad less value to the Republic then the Huk did. Imo, his situation is a prime example of everything wrong with both the Republic and the Jedi Order at the time and why I believe a Separatist movement that wasn't puppeteered by Sidious would have ultimately been a good thing. What he's not justified in is his own murderous tendencies but, as you guys' mentioned, that's not actually him but the alterations Dooku's made to his mental state. He was a warlord but he wasn't a psychopath that got off on killing people. His true character is that of an honorable warrior seeking vengeance for his people who were unjustly slaughtered. The kicker is that one of the things ultimately driving his hatred of the Republic is a perceived assassination attempt by them that was actually carried out by Dooku to secure his loyalty. Dooku literally reduced Grievous from an honorable warrior celebrated as a demigod by his people to a rage consumed being that could hardly be called a sentient. It's sad enough that it makes me depressed even thinking about it. And you know what they did in TCW? they changed this brilliant backstory to Grievous having replaced his physical body with cybernetics because he was jealous of the Jedi's fighting ability and wanted to kill them because of said jealousy. Balogne ( yes, that was intended ) can eat a chode.
Ok, I already mentioned this while back, but I think it would be cool to have a video on the force-sensitive groups outside the Jedi and Sith, like the Mutukai, the Zeison Sha, the Jensaarai(hi Conner), and so on. This is due to the fact because 1) I want to see this. 2) Most fans would probably be with these groups had they had the chose. 3) They just don't get the love they deserve:(.
In Mace's defense, Force Sensitives on the level of Yoda's raw power are absurdly rare. The ones around that level in Legends are Palpatine, Plaegis, Bane, Krayt, Vitiate, Mace, and the Skywalker line. Out of the billions of Force Sensitives in Galactic History that's maybe...... twenty people tops.
As for the sheer firepower Mace brought. They are walking into The Works, where Maul can walk without turning heads. Best bring a bit of firepower for that.
Mace is not really on par with any of them in power but he is close in skill though. Also you forgot Dooku and the Shan and Revan family though they are inconsistent
Watchface I wouldn't put him at 70 considering Mace struggled with opponents that Yoda and other top tiers never did. Satele wrecked Malgus as a Jedi knight to the point he had a respirator for the rest of his life that is better than any of Mace's feats in my opinion as he never wrecked anyone gifted with the Force to that degree also Revan is pretty op though
For Dooku talking about the Jedi that would take out Grievous he actually mentions Shaak Ti instead of Drallig in the audiobook version although I'd still say Grievous > Shaak Ti even under normal circumstances. I can just imagine Count Dooku listening to classical music then from down the hallway hearing a commotion and looks in to see Grievous head banging.
While I could totally see Grievous being a death metal fan, I could also actually see him listening to maybe traditional tribal music or traditional Japanese music depending on the type. Maybe something with a lot of drums of some kind. I don’t know why but maybe the Final Agni Kai theme from AtLA.
Round 2 of a fantastic novel and its review. Labyrinth of Evil: Circle Beard style for Reti4 and I think GreyJedi91 while Evan and Jensarrai1 went Royale Beard style. On this topic of facial hair: pls do Katarn's beard vs Kenobi's beard.
The biggest difference between how Palpatine exercised control and how someone like Darth Krayt did was very different, Palpatine would only resort to intimidation or fear last, whilst someone like Krayt would flout his power around and pretty much make you so terrified that your only option is to obey him. Palpatine uses coercion first and foremost to manipulate and promise to his servants what they want most with intimidation and grand displays of power coming last and only reserved for those that see through his act.
I like the thought of Grievous listening to something really upbeat and peppy ike the Guardians of the Galaxy Soundtrack. A scene of him listening to music, one of the few things he can still enjoy, would have actually been a really cool humanizing moment.
Regarding the Golden Cuff, I think that Mace thought of it because they were in a tunnel that was leading to the Senate District. Perhaps he was thinking that in the coming days that he could cross reference the list of people Dooku spoke to in the tavern with the people that would be found at the end of the tunnel.
Man y'all slept on Shaak Ti on Mace's team, this lady outdueled Galen Marek and would have killed him if not for his devastating force lightning. Pair her with Mace Windu and they may have a fighting chance. Ti and the padawans hold off the clones while Mace duels Sidious, once the clones are dealt with Ti assists Mace. With her montrals, she would be much more effective in a 2v1 duel due to her heightened spacial awareness. I think her Makashi would also be useful. Don't sleep on my girl, y'all! That's Sith propaganda! (Love the podcast, can listen for hours ❤)
I'd like to imagine Grievous would have a secret love of pop songs and disney music deep down. I like the idea of him sitting there, earbuds in, jamming out to Wreckingball and Let It Go.
16:00 Dooku says that in the Revenge of the Sith novel but he doesn't mention Syfo-Dias. He more says it that it's the reason why the sith will triumph the jedi despite the jedi having Yoda and Windu who are pretty much equals to Sidious and Tyranus on top of them vastly outnumbering the sith. The sith are willing to experiment and improve and the jedi are not.
14:30 I'm not so sure it means that. I more think it speaks to Dooku's overconfidence and his sense of self-importance. I think he can actually figure it out that Sidious will dispose of him but his ego won't allow that to sink in. He is a count and a master jedi so he is irreplaceable. Ventress might be short tempered but because of her life of constant defeats and humiliations she has a much more humble opinion of herself and so she can allow herself to see the things Dooku won't let himself.
I think it makes sense that they don't realise that the statues are sith themed as the jedi only remember the sith as armoured warriors and not hooded illusive manipulators
Technically, the Demigod of disguise isn't a Sith Lord anyway, it's a naboo deity of some sort so the jedi wouldn't recognize it as anything more than that. It's just funny they don't suspect the guy who owns it.
1:04:55 - Tbh, I disagree with that. Dooku notes specifically that he holds back certain knowledge from Grievous should the General ever turn on him indicating that he views him as a legitimate threat. I think Grievous's performance against Mace later in this very novel is solid evidence in Grievous's favor that he's closer to Dooku then you're giving him credit for.
William Henning a lot of what Connor and Callan say (in my opinion) comes off like blanket statements even if they're only speaking to a specific point. I think the portrayal of the training session in both this book and the microseries is proof that Dooku is outright superior to Grievous as a lightsaber duelist. It's fair to say that Grievous represents a greater overall threat to a wider array of combatants than Dooku does, but Dooku is the greater technical master and the less likely to underestimate his opponents (not that he's perfect there of course). That last is my point of view anyway, based largely on Dooku's experience and the fact that he has a more accurate idea of what the various Jedi are capable of than Grievous has. I don't think any of us would argue that Grievous' combined attributes and ever increasing knowledge base makes him a potential threat to Dooku. That's more or less what I argued directly following what Connor said anyway, and he didn't disagree at all. So it comes down to what the point of contention is. Is Grievous close to Dooku's level as a pure duelist? Or is the question whether or not he could pose a threat to Dooku using his combined abilities. The former is the one we would argue against. The latter, is more debatable as Grievous does have a lot going for him. At least this version of the character did at any rate.
+William Henning I def agree. Greivous is a constantly improving kill bot. While I do agree that Grevious's refinement is not near Dooku's level, that doesn't mean his overall combative effectiveness isn't at his level. I kind of make this argument with Darth Malgus. Sure Malgus's technical skill isn't even council master level, but his experience and overall performance levels def makes him that level. In terms of Clone Wars Era, the only people who I think who can take Grevious in a straight duel are Dooku, Kenobi, and Yoda (bit tricky though because of Grevious's armor, combat speed is comp, and 4 blades covers his angles but his style is something Yoda is optimized to dealing with). Everyone else (majority of time) either use force abilities or get terminated.
Oh, I don't disagree with that. But I think one of the major factors contributing to his superiority is the fact that he's taught Grievous pretty much everything the General knows whereas Grievous doesn't have the same luxury in regards to knowing Dooku's capabilities. I think Dooku is actually MORE likely to underestimate his opponents then Grievous. A prime example of his overconfidence is his fight with Anakin and Obi Wan in the RotS novel. By contrast, Grievous actually opts to retreat from Kenobi when it's clear he's on the losing end of their duel. Fair enough.
William Henning Respectfully disagree on the arrogance topic. It's kind of spelled out in this novel that this is the point of his lesson to Grievous, and the General even reflects on this in humiliation following his fight with Windu. Dooku is arrogant of course, but that blind spot where Kenobi and Skywalker are concerned is probably the most serious one he had. And that is driven in part by his psychological need to be better than the Jedi, but also by the fact that Anakin and Obi-wan were pretending to suck and Dooku fell into their trap. Still though he adapted to the situation and took one of them out. Dooku does not respect Skywalker in particular, and this inability to accept the boy's talent leads to a unique shortsightedness that isn't present in Dooku's usual performance level. Meanwhile Grievous has, up to the events if this book (and of course this is most true excluding Canon material), never faced off with any of the most skilled Jedi of the period in a fair contest with all parties involved in top condition. So he had less experience with his enemies than Dooku had and hasn't had much occasion to truly feel pressured by the Jedi he's actually encountered. Hence his overconfidence despite Dooku's warnings. If one DOES factor in TCW then Grievous makes blunders like these in nearly every instance.
Oh my god, I have an insane mental image of Sidious tinkering with Grievous' IPod before dooku gives it too him in keeping with his ultimate Troll status the only songs Grievous has are "what is love" and "never gunna give you up" XDDD
I love music (discussed 7 forms of lightsaber combat in relationship to music genres), I love Grievous, and I'm a shit poster. 1:07:27, Evan challenge accepted and I have a couple of ideas. Some are great, others are atrocious. EDM: When you consider Grevious's body, imagine the dance moves he can pull off. + it appeals to his mechanical nature. Ra Ra Rasputin-ua-cam.com/video/W8dJaK0FrzM/v-deo.html Anything by Raphsody of Fire that has Christopher Lee in it- Dooku would recommend it to him. Here is a link to one of the songs, ua-cam.com/video/Z93SdirnzTw/v-deo.html General theme from Kaiser Knuckle: ua-cam.com/video/rYTk5gkBWUA/v-deo.html Badass theme of a fellow General. Electronic and represents the threat of General Grievous. Unless you use force abilities, hes a goddamn SNK boss. Terminator Theme: ua-cam.com/video/mpMg1upld0w/v-deo.html I always called General Grievous SW version of The Terminator. Raphsody of Fire-Dark Secret Saga: Of the course of the songs, it tells the story of a man who ascends to godhood. This is important because in Kaleesh culture, in death, some people become gods (which happened to Grievous). Any mixture of electronic and heavy metal: Very distorted, the electronic frequencies might appeal to Grevious's sense of hearing. Also represents he now likes music that you don't think is truly "organic" in a sense. Also because I have really bad taste in music.
Wedge would have no chance lol. I mean he is definitely MUCH more experienced and arguably smarter in his starfighter, but dogfight is (at least imo), mostly about pure reflexes and prediction and Wedge would simply have no chance against Anakin's Force enhanced senses.
Jakub Yeah, I would definitely agree. In fact, I would probably go further, as I would guess that Wedge, being a dedicated star fighter pilot and special operative, would have more live combat experience than Anakin and Luke Skywalker put together. But, as you rightly said, experience just cannot account for Force-enhanced reflexes. Wedge would probably put up a good fight, but I simply can’t see him winning.
One question on the Bith, I know they allied with the Separatists, but don't they still send their force sensitive kids to the Jedi, cause I do remember that somewhere.
I like the new affiliation indicators next to the actual facecams for everyone, curious about the color choice though, why exactly did you guys choose those colors?
sjaws99 I also like how they gave Conner the Imperial/Sith symbol while the rest get the Republic/Jedi logo. I wonder which one Antione will get in the next one?
GreyJedi91 I don't really need to know, I was just curious, thank you for responding, it's always nice to see that you guys go through the comments section and make an effort to read them, you guys are the reason I still love Star Wars after the last movie,
He was going to take part, but he had a very busy day and wasn't in the mood to record. It was very late at night when we recorded this episode, so he was quite tired.
I think what Jenssaarai was trying to say about Palpatine being human is that, though Palpatine may be a monster, he is a very human-style monster, in that he thinks and operates like an evil human. Versus, say, Plagueis, who clearly thinks and operates like an evil Muun, or Teneborous who is an evil With etc. Also, you might joke about the droids accidentally blowing up the Senate digs, but I almost took it for granted that they did something like this, or something similar- if the Jedi are so close that they are literally on the right track, and you have ordered an invasion to deal with this, then why not blow up the track while you are at it? It makes it THAT much harder for them to retrace their steps after al if the "steps" are under a pile of smoking rubble after all. (for the record, I don't really like the explanation that this was some last-ditch desperate effort by Palpatine to cover his tracks. I think it makes more sense that the Battle of Coruscant was something he was planning all along, as the elimination of Dooku would have been something he needed to carefully plot out in advance).
Love the vid! Not done yet i just wanted to ask Reti, why you don't like the dark side shroud idea? I'm not like saying your wrong, i don't know much about it im just curious
Noel Rose hey Greyjedi91 here, I recommend asking Reti this question again in future. He's asked us all to make sure viewers know he's not ignoring them. He's currently away on a trip to Japan for the next couple weeks. Lucky him!
15:40 I don't really need one. Even though few books totally focus on Dooku the sheer amount of material he is involved with is more than enough. I more want one focused on Syfo-Dias and how exactly he operated and what he thought.
I completely agree with your guys' thoughts on Grievous. LoE and the tie in comics which revealed his backstory made him one of my favorite characters in Star Wars because he's essentially a tragic anti-hero who's perfectly justified in his desire for vengeance. He lost his family, friends and everybody he'd ever known because the Republic was so mired in corruption and the Jedi Order was so blinded by their loyalty to the Republic that they were willing to commit genocide on his people simply because theyhad less value to the Republic then the Huk did. Imo, his situation is a prime example of everything wrong with both the Republic and the Jedi Order at the time and why I believe a Separatist movement that wasn't puppeteered by Sidious would have ultimately been a good thing.
What he's not justified in is his own murderous tendencies but, as you guys' mentioned, that's not actually him but the alterations Dooku's made to his mental state. He was a warlord but he wasn't a psychopath that got off on killing people. His true character is that of an honorable warrior seeking vengeance for his people who were unjustly slaughtered. The kicker is that one of the things ultimately driving his hatred of the Republic is a perceived assassination attempt by them that was actually carried out by Dooku to secure his loyalty. Dooku literally reduced Grievous from an honorable warrior celebrated as a demigod by his people to a rage consumed being that could hardly be called a sentient. It's sad enough that it makes me depressed even thinking about it.
And you know what they did in TCW? they changed this brilliant backstory to Grievous having replaced his physical body with cybernetics because he was jealous of the Jedi's fighting ability and wanted to kill them because of said jealousy. Balogne ( yes, that was intended ) can eat a chode.
Ok, I already mentioned this while back, but I think it would be cool to have a video on the force-sensitive groups outside the Jedi and Sith, like the Mutukai, the Zeison Sha, the Jensaarai(hi Conner), and so on. This is due to the fact because
1) I want to see this.
2) Most fans would probably be with these groups had they had the chose.
3) They just don't get the love they deserve:(.
In Mace's defense, Force Sensitives on the level of Yoda's raw power are absurdly rare. The ones around that level in Legends are Palpatine, Plaegis, Bane, Krayt, Vitiate, Mace, and the Skywalker line. Out of the billions of Force Sensitives in Galactic History that's maybe...... twenty people tops.
As for the sheer firepower Mace brought. They are walking into The Works, where Maul can walk without turning heads. Best bring a bit of firepower for that.
Mace is not really on par with any of them in power but he is close in skill though. Also you forgot Dooku and the Shan and Revan family though they are inconsistent
I'd put Mace at roughly 90% Yoda. He's just half a step away.
I personally wouldn't put Shan or Revan up there, but that's just me.
Watchface I wouldn't put him at 70 considering Mace struggled with opponents that Yoda and other top tiers never did. Satele wrecked Malgus as a Jedi knight to the point he had a respirator for the rest of his life that is better than any of Mace's feats in my opinion as he never wrecked anyone gifted with the Force to that degree also Revan is pretty op though
Fanalysis: Facial Hair Eddition
Watchface they all have facial hair
Evan : Chat, tell us what music you think Grievous would listen to.
Matt : WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
LOL
I would love if you guys discussed The Bane Trilogy + Jedi VS Sith comic sometime in the future.
We fully intend to review that series. It will probably be awhile, but we will.
Can't wait till you guys get to it!
Good to see everyone still making these podcasts. Great video guys
Thanks Spiderman.
For Dooku talking about the Jedi that would take out Grievous he actually mentions Shaak Ti instead of Drallig in the audiobook version although I'd still say Grievous > Shaak Ti even under normal circumstances.
I can just imagine Count Dooku listening to classical music then from down the hallway hearing a commotion and looks in to see Grievous head banging.
While I could totally see Grievous being a death metal fan, I could also actually see him listening to maybe traditional tribal music or traditional Japanese music depending on the type. Maybe something with a lot of drums of some kind. I don’t know why but maybe the Final Agni Kai theme from AtLA.
Round 2 of a fantastic novel and its review.
Labyrinth of Evil: Circle Beard style for Reti4 and I think GreyJedi91 while Evan and Jensarrai1 went Royale Beard style.
On this topic of facial hair: pls do Katarn's beard vs Kenobi's beard.
I can see Grievous listening to Disturbed or ION.
The biggest difference between how Palpatine exercised control and how someone like Darth Krayt did was very different, Palpatine would only resort to intimidation or fear last, whilst someone like Krayt would flout his power around and pretty much make you so terrified that your only option is to obey him. Palpatine uses coercion first and foremost to manipulate and promise to his servants what they want most with intimidation and grand displays of power coming last and only reserved for those that see through his act.
Grievous would be listening to the Terminator theme music, imagining that as his intro theme.
this
I think Grievous would listen to..... Metal.
I'll show myself out.
I like the thought of Grievous listening to something really upbeat and peppy ike the Guardians of the Galaxy Soundtrack. A scene of him listening to music, one of the few things he can still enjoy, would have actually been a really cool humanizing moment.
Regarding the Golden Cuff, I think that Mace thought of it because they were in a tunnel that was leading to the Senate District. Perhaps he was thinking that in the coming days that he could cross reference the list of people Dooku spoke to in the tavern with the people that would be found at the end of the tunnel.
Man y'all slept on Shaak Ti on Mace's team, this lady outdueled Galen Marek and would have killed him if not for his devastating force lightning. Pair her with Mace Windu and they may have a fighting chance. Ti and the padawans hold off the clones while Mace duels Sidious, once the clones are dealt with Ti assists Mace. With her montrals, she would be much more effective in a 2v1 duel due to her heightened spacial awareness. I think her Makashi would also be useful. Don't sleep on my girl, y'all! That's Sith propaganda! (Love the podcast, can listen for hours ❤)
I'd like to imagine Grievous would have a secret love of pop songs and disney music deep down. I like the idea of him sitting there, earbuds in, jamming out to Wreckingball and Let It Go.
Grievous isn't allowed to kill Gunray, so Gunray having balls against Grievous makes sense.
Yeah, but it isn't completely like Vader and Tarkin. Tarkin is someone Vader respects, while Gunray is someone who tests Grievous' impulse control.
16:00
Dooku says that in the Revenge of the Sith novel but he doesn't mention Syfo-Dias. He more says it that it's the reason why the sith will triumph the jedi despite the jedi having Yoda and Windu who are pretty much equals to Sidious and Tyranus on top of them vastly outnumbering the sith. The sith are willing to experiment and improve and the jedi are not.
I like the way that Jensaarai says "resources."
14:30
I'm not so sure it means that. I more think it speaks to Dooku's overconfidence and his sense of self-importance. I think he can actually figure it out that Sidious will dispose of him but his ego won't allow that to sink in. He is a count and a master jedi so he is irreplaceable. Ventress might be short tempered but because of her life of constant defeats and humiliations she has a much more humble opinion of herself and so she can allow herself to see the things Dooku won't let himself.
I think it makes sense that they don't realise that the statues are sith themed as the jedi only remember the sith as armoured warriors and not hooded illusive manipulators
or jsut think hey he found odd art? like the sith were a thing in the galaxy finding STUFF you know? its not quite that odd.
Technically, the Demigod of disguise isn't a Sith Lord anyway, it's a naboo deity of some sort so the jedi wouldn't recognize it as anything more than that. It's just funny they don't suspect the guy who owns it.
Oh grevious would totally be a metal head his song would be Metal Machine from Udo
1:04:55 - Tbh, I disagree with that. Dooku notes specifically that he holds back certain knowledge from Grievous should the General ever turn on him indicating that he views him as a legitimate threat. I think Grievous's performance against Mace later in this very novel is solid evidence in Grievous's favor that he's closer to Dooku then you're giving him credit for.
William Henning I agree.
William Henning a lot of what Connor and Callan say (in my opinion) comes off like blanket statements even if they're only speaking to a specific point. I think the portrayal of the training session in both this book and the microseries is proof that Dooku is outright superior to Grievous as a lightsaber duelist.
It's fair to say that Grievous represents a greater overall threat to a wider array of combatants than Dooku does, but Dooku is the greater technical master and the less likely to underestimate his opponents (not that he's perfect there of course). That last is my point of view anyway, based largely on Dooku's experience and the fact that he has a more accurate idea of what the various Jedi are capable of than Grievous has.
I don't think any of us would argue that Grievous' combined attributes and ever increasing knowledge base makes him a potential threat to Dooku. That's more or less what I argued directly following what Connor said anyway, and he didn't disagree at all. So it comes down to what the point of contention is. Is Grievous close to Dooku's level as a pure duelist? Or is the question whether or not he could pose a threat to Dooku using his combined abilities. The former is the one we would argue against. The latter, is more debatable as Grievous does have a lot going for him. At least this version of the character did at any rate.
+William Henning I def agree. Greivous is a constantly improving kill bot. While I do agree that Grevious's refinement is not near Dooku's level, that doesn't mean his overall combative effectiveness isn't at his level. I kind of make this argument with Darth Malgus. Sure Malgus's technical skill isn't even council master level, but his experience and overall performance levels def makes him that level.
In terms of Clone Wars Era, the only people who I think who can take Grevious in a straight duel are Dooku, Kenobi, and Yoda (bit tricky though because of Grevious's armor, combat speed is comp, and 4 blades covers his angles but his style is something Yoda is optimized to dealing with). Everyone else (majority of time) either use force abilities or get terminated.
Oh, I don't disagree with that. But I think one of the major factors contributing to his superiority is the fact that he's taught Grievous pretty much everything the General knows whereas Grievous doesn't have the same luxury in regards to knowing Dooku's capabilities.
I think Dooku is actually MORE likely to underestimate his opponents then Grievous. A prime example of his overconfidence is his fight with Anakin and Obi Wan in the RotS novel. By contrast, Grievous actually opts to retreat from Kenobi when it's clear he's on the losing end of their duel.
Fair enough.
William Henning Respectfully disagree on the arrogance topic. It's kind of spelled out in this novel that this is the point of his lesson to Grievous, and the General even reflects on this in humiliation following his fight with Windu.
Dooku is arrogant of course, but that blind spot where Kenobi and Skywalker are concerned is probably the most serious one he had. And that is driven in part by his psychological need to be better than the Jedi, but also by the fact that Anakin and Obi-wan were pretending to suck and Dooku fell into their trap. Still though he adapted to the situation and took one of them out.
Dooku does not respect Skywalker in particular, and this inability to accept the boy's talent leads to a unique shortsightedness that isn't present in Dooku's usual performance level.
Meanwhile Grievous has, up to the events if this book (and of course this is most true excluding Canon material), never faced off with any of the most skilled Jedi of the period in a fair contest with all parties involved in top condition. So he had less experience with his enemies than Dooku had and hasn't had much occasion to truly feel pressured by the Jedi he's actually encountered. Hence his overconfidence despite Dooku's warnings. If one DOES factor in TCW then Grievous makes blunders like these in nearly every instance.
I am right there with you Grey Jedi, How hard is it to pronounce Caleb? its not even that rare of a name!
Oh my god, I have an insane mental image of Sidious tinkering with Grievous' IPod before dooku gives it too him in keeping with his ultimate Troll status the only songs Grievous has are "what is love" and "never gunna give you up" XDDD
I love music (discussed 7 forms of lightsaber combat in relationship to music genres), I love Grievous, and I'm a shit poster. 1:07:27, Evan challenge accepted and I have a couple of ideas. Some are great, others are atrocious.
EDM: When you consider Grevious's body, imagine the dance moves he can pull off. + it appeals to his mechanical nature.
Ra Ra Rasputin-ua-cam.com/video/W8dJaK0FrzM/v-deo.html
Anything by Raphsody of Fire that has Christopher Lee in it- Dooku would recommend it to him. Here is a link to one of the songs, ua-cam.com/video/Z93SdirnzTw/v-deo.html
General theme from Kaiser Knuckle: ua-cam.com/video/rYTk5gkBWUA/v-deo.html Badass theme of a fellow General. Electronic and represents the threat of General Grievous. Unless you use force abilities, hes a goddamn SNK boss.
Terminator Theme: ua-cam.com/video/mpMg1upld0w/v-deo.html I always called General Grievous SW version of The Terminator.
Raphsody of Fire-Dark Secret Saga: Of the course of the songs, it tells the story of a man who ascends to godhood. This is important because in Kaleesh culture, in death, some people become gods (which happened to Grievous).
Any mixture of electronic and heavy metal: Very distorted, the electronic frequencies might appeal to Grevious's sense of hearing. Also represents he now likes music that you don't think is truly "organic" in a sense. Also because I have really bad taste in music.
I think Grivous would like classical or opera
Grievious would listen to bubble gum pop!
So I have a question for the group who would win Anakin Skywalker or wedge Antilles in a Starfighter dog fight?
Wedge would have no chance lol.
I mean he is definitely MUCH more experienced and arguably smarter in his starfighter, but dogfight is (at least imo), mostly about pure reflexes and prediction and Wedge would simply have no chance against Anakin's Force enhanced senses.
Jakub Yeah, I would definitely agree. In fact, I would probably go further, as I would guess that Wedge, being a dedicated star fighter pilot and special operative, would have more live combat experience than Anakin and Luke Skywalker put together. But, as you rightly said, experience just cannot account for Force-enhanced reflexes. Wedge would probably put up a good fight, but I simply can’t see him winning.
Anakin is about equal to Vader and is mentioned more than once to be the Republic's best pilot
397 Llederson Well duh, Anakin would be an equally skilled pilot to himself... 🤦🏻♂️
AntiTroll1000 What I mean is that Vader didn't surpass his younger self in piloting
One question on the Bith, I know they allied with the Separatists, but don't they still send their force sensitive kids to the Jedi, cause I do remember that somewhere.
I like the new affiliation indicators next to the actual facecams for everyone, curious about the color choice though, why exactly did you guys choose those colors?
sjaws99 I also like how they gave Conner the Imperial/Sith symbol while the rest get the Republic/Jedi logo. I wonder which one Antione will get in the next one?
He'll probably also have a Gray Jedi emblem
sjaws99 honestly I don't even remember picking those...must have been part of a discussion we had months and months ago.
GreyJedi91 I don't really need to know, I was just curious, thank you for responding, it's always nice to see that you guys go through the comments section and make an effort to read them, you guys are the reason I still love Star Wars after the last movie,
Another awsome video guys. Reti 4 could you please speak up when ever you talk i have to turn up the volume .
I would like it if you guys would cover Catalyst, since all of you like Rouge one and it's written by James Luceno.
Edith Ume Battle of Hypori is mentoned in Catalyst, right?
Traj Yep. :)
I think Grievous would be listening to anime OPs and J-pop songs and rockin' with his body :D
Has anyone else noticed that Reti looks a lot like Jesus?
We've noticed.
Grievous would totally love Swing music.
Just realised where’s Antione. He was in the last part but he’s not in this one
He was going to take part, but he had a very busy day and wasn't in the mood to record. It was very late at night when we recorded this episode, so he was quite tired.
Since this is one of your more favorite books, do ya guys have a favored quote in the book?
I think what Jenssaarai was trying to say about Palpatine being human is that, though Palpatine may be a monster, he is a very human-style monster, in that he thinks and operates like an evil human. Versus, say, Plagueis, who clearly thinks and operates like an evil Muun, or Teneborous who is an evil With etc.
Also, you might joke about the droids accidentally blowing up the Senate digs, but I almost took it for granted that they did something like this, or something similar- if the Jedi are so close that they are literally on the right track, and you have ordered an invasion to deal with this, then why not blow up the track while you are at it? It makes it THAT much harder for them to retrace their steps after al if the "steps" are under a pile of smoking rubble after all.
(for the record, I don't really like the explanation that this was some last-ditch desperate effort by Palpatine to cover his tracks. I think it makes more sense that the Battle of Coruscant was something he was planning all along, as the elimination of Dooku would have been something he needed to carefully plot out in advance).
One day we will get a detailed explanation of what lus-ma is. Maybe. Not likely. Doubt it. But a guy can dream.
Yes you listened Conner
Love the vid! Not done yet i just wanted to ask Reti, why you don't like the dark side shroud idea? I'm not like saying your wrong, i don't know much about it im just curious
Noel Rose hey Greyjedi91 here, I recommend asking Reti this question again in future. He's asked us all to make sure viewers know he's not ignoring them. He's currently away on a trip to Japan for the next couple weeks. Lucky him!
Darth Plagueis best deserves this but in gen, James Luceno reference overdosing gets to Jojo levels. Fans love it but its hard for first time readers.
Yeah, Luceno is exposotion heavy, even in the New Canon he just can't help but say the name of a certain make of Starship or bladter rifle.
It's obvious grievous listens to Gachi.
FINALLY!!!!
Jensaari, the reason Luceno loves Bith is because it rhymes with Sith. Duh! 😃
Can Grievous be disabled with mechu deru or ionize?
I can't speak for my friends, but I would say it would depend on WHO uses them and HOW.
Kazdan Paradus vs Grievous could be interesting, Ionize from Luke, Revan or even Arca Jeth should be deadly.
Also where is season 6 finale?
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I don't really need one. Even though few books totally focus on Dooku the sheer amount of material he is involved with is more than enough. I more want one focused on Syfo-Dias and how exactly he operated and what he thought.
Grievous’ favorite song would undoubtedly be «The Vengeful One» by Disturbed.
Nah, this is Greivous's theme. ua-cam.com/video/mpMg1upld0w/v-deo.html
They could have used order 67 on palpatine