And because of this, it and the Old Jedi Order were rightfully destroyed so for the New Republic (later, the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances) and the New Jedi Order to rise from their ashes.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I would love for the Jedi to remain dead and forgotten, they're just repeating the same mistakes they did in the clone wars era, no change and no reformation just defenders of their own Virginia's..
@@LordEmperorHyperion So long as there are people born with Force sensitivity, there will always be a need for the Jedi Order in some form or another... or at the very least some kind of order of Force sensitives aligned with the Light Side of the Force. Also, I have to figure that rehabilitating the image of the Jedi after public opinion swaying against them during the Clone Wars, followed by decades of Imperial propaganda against them would be quite the uphill battle anyway.
@@LordEmperorHyperion In Legends that's false, I'm pretty sure they didn't make the same mistakes the old Jedi order did. And in the sequels, that's true, but the people who made those films had no idea what they were doing. They should've let most of Legends remain canon and follow Lucas' original sequel trilogy plan.
@@michaelandreipalon359 they probably honestly didn’t live well after retirement. Lot of people more than likely held great resentment and hatred for the clones after order 66
Palpatine did all of the legally. That is alway the most amazing part to me. He didn’t force the galaxy the become the empire, he convinced them it was the best opt
Some people truly feel like the prequels and the lore from the clone wars was unnecessary, but I’ve always said it did a great job in showing how something like a large scale galactic empire could even possible come into existence.
Accurate to real history. The Roman Republic was gradually corrupted to the Roman Empire in a span of about a century and Hitler used the unpopularity of the Weimar Republic and the economic crises at the time to make the Nazis control Germany.
Even now we know that democracy has its shortcomings. Ideally, a tyranny of the "wise men" (quoting Platoon, maybe? Can't remember) would be the ideal. There are four problems on that: 1. A tyranny is inherently unfair by its own definition, no matter who rules. 2. It's hard to find a shared definition of "wise men". 3. You just need one bad ruler to ruin the government forever. 4. Corruption runs rampant. The latter two can be shared with democracies too, to an extent. Still, if I knew FOR SURE that someone honest and sane was gonna rule, without racism or other irrational prejudices, probably a tyranny would be the way to go in real life.
@@Alfonso88279 umm freedom/liberty is far better lmao. “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
I mean Imperator and Victory Class Star Destroyers were now being mass produced, Clones were being given weapons such as E-11, Clone Fighters became more like Tie Fighters, Clone Armor Phase II looked very similar to Stormtrooper armor, At-Ats were being made, aswell as At-Sts. Yeah Palpatine was definitely pushing Imperial weaponry during the Clone Wars.
In truth both the Galactic Republic’s Military complex and Galactic Senate was already shaping the Galaxy into the Galactic Empire by giving Palpatine centralized power onto himself, and no doubt that the Sith were expecting such results from this one thousand year plan.
They kept on voting Palpatine more and more executive powers over the years of Clone Wars to the point where the Republic is basically is a republic in name only.
Yeah. The Jedi and a small group of senators like Bail Organa, Padme, and Mon Mothma were the only ones that were really keeping the last bits of the Republic alive. Get rid of the Jedi and silence the disobedient senators, and you'd have no resistance and you could do whatever you want. Palpatine was already a dictator even before the CW ended. It didn't help that the citizens supported the Empire in the early years and that he had an army of hyperloyal Clones.
@@hunterkiller1440 Continental US an unfortunately watching half of it turn into a modern Socialist/Communist nation while the other half sits by with their heads in the sand. Then the rest of us saying something or another but no one does or has ability or power to do much besides that... Heres hoping for ANYTHING to work out at this point
@@robertagu5533 How is it socialism/communism when it's the wealthy capitalists in control oligarchy style? I'm curious because I'm actually living under a communist regime.
Seeing the early days of the Empire, and seeing how it consolidated it’s power within the galaxy is one of the things I really love about The Bad Batch, and I just hope the don’t jump through this time period to fast, as IMO it’s fascinating, as is seeing them adapt to no longer having pre-existing support systems in place to provide for their needs.
I’m really interested in the Purge Troopers and would love to hear more about them. I thought they were one of the coolest additions to Fallen Order, and they were my favorite trooper. I think knowing how they came into service would be really cool!
the aclamator's stayed in use in the imperial navy as well. Also AT-AT's always struck me as unwieldy cumbersome beasts even compared to the AT-TE. I'm curious and maybe this is a potential video topic, just how "all terrain" were the AT vehicles?
@Darth Sidious that‘s during the time immediately before Darth Bane. The republic collapses and only the Jedi remain while the Sith rule the galaxy while fighting them selves. Technology regresses and life gets worse
As someone who serves in the us military, the marines aren’t some elite “stormtrooper” like force. Yes their boot camp is slightly longer than the other branches, but the USMC exists solely to be the ground force for Naval Operations. A marine infantry platoon is pretty much the same as an army one. Even now in 2021 the USMC is moving more towards antiship and electronic warfare than they are infantry. Not to piss on the legacy of the corps but they aren’t some elite branch when 9/10 of them aren’t even infantry but some support MOS
So does this mean that the more elite branches in storm troopers would be considered low ranking lords among the Empire. Then to be an Imperial Guard of Emperor Palpatine would be among one of the highest honoured positions within the Empire .
Did the Rebels ever use any CW era vehicles against the Empire? I know they used Y-Wings and a Lucrehulk against the Death Star, but did they use others?
In legends rahm kotas milltia used the DC 15 blaster since they had pleanty of those left and they were considered a pretty solid weapon still along with the rotary blasters
One could argue the case that the Empire really began ehen Palpatine was elected Supreme Chancellor. Evil Mastermind played the long game, to horrific effect.
I doubt that. Got one thing, Palpatine could be legally elected out. Yeah, he got around getting legally kicked out by creating the Separatist Crisis, but I’m of the opinion that so long as the Jedi Order and Senate still had power, the Republic was standing. The Senate did have the authority during the war to make peace with the CIS and decrease the military budget. If you have to use scare tactics and terrorism to get people to vote on your side, I say there is still hope. I say the Republic died during Order 66, when the last legal enemy of Palpatine was crushed, the Jedi Order. The Senate died sometime between when they gave Palpatine control of the banks and the Battle of Coruscant. Sometime during that period they gave Palpatine the last of their power to stop him, thus leading to them being replaced by military governors after the Battle of Coruscant.
The Republic didn't become the Empire in ROTS, it had already become the Empire by that point. Quote from the ROTS novelization: "To ensure that we will always stand together, that we will always speak with a single voice and act with a single hand, the Republic must change. We must evolve. We must grow. We have become an empire in fact; let us become an Empire in name as well! We are the first Galactic Empire! "
Half of the military changes were actually good. Star Destroyers and ground vehicles were an improvement, whereas the Stormtroopers and TIE fighters where a downgrade.
I used to be a fan of The forced unleased as a video game and the clone wars as a series, so i had some starwars knowledge. But as I've become an adult I've been heavily intrigued with the politics and how the republic became the empire, it's very interesting
I mean by the end of the war, the Republic was very in line with what the Empire was, most power was given to the Executive branch and Palpatine, the Clone Army was already trying out Stormtrooper and Imperial fighters, Capital Ships, armor, and weapons, the Jedi had very few numbers left and were spread thin along with losing support, also most Military leaders were now fully loyal to Palpatine, along with the Senate practically having no power anymore. The Republic was the Empire by the end of the war, but nobody saw it.
Have you done "What if" scenario where Admiral Thrawn's Defender program beat the Stardust project and how that would have affected the Civil War against the Rebellion.
The announcement of the Empire is just the last step. All Sith worked on destroying the Republic and the Jedi. Plagueis and Palpatine were no different. The fact alone Palpatine was elected Supreme Chancellor proves how influential the Sith had already been, even before they were offcially in charge. After his election, he had ten years to prepare the Republic for the transition. The Clone Wars were only the last phase. By the time Palpatine announced the New Order, the Republic had already ceased to exist.
The do or die mentality... Fearing what would happen if the CIS took over if they didn't.. Later fearing what Palps, Vader, Etc Imperial forces would do later
Im really surprised that GAR Clone armor was inferior to the rising conscripts armor. My belief was Fett clones were superior in everyway. However tragic the Jedi purge was, the Clones did get a lot done..."Respect for Clones!"
IIRC Darth Vader's 501st Legion was the last pure Feat-clone unit and only started to take non-feet clone and volunteer replacements when Fett-clones were no longer available.
Question that I've been wondering about. Did Palpatine NEED the Republic to destroy the Confederation, or would he have been just as happy with the Confederacy winning? I mean, he was in charge of both. He would have ruled the galaxy either way, right?
Video Idea: Who's the wealthiest in the Galaxy? Everyone talks about how much they need to pay, but who could really pay the most? If there's a video already, post the link please!
Most of the channels on "Star Wars" dwell on same topics in most cases. Another similarity I found while going through these, whenever they make a video on a certain topic, they provide unnecessary background info too much that become irritating to watch sometimes.
if i may, on the topic of ewok steak, the general size and shape of the ewok wouldn't make for a good "steak" as we think of it (ie. from a cow).. now ewok roast, or ribs, probably a far better idea!
You know, the Empire should have used Venators. They have way larger hangars that can hold all of those TIE fighters, and even though they are slower than the ISDs, they don't really need to be that fast, considering that rebels mostly use cargo ships and transports. Also, the Venators had two bridges, providing a way better view of the battle, which is what the Empire really needed. Remember when Piett couldn't see the tiny A wing heading toward the bridge? If one of the bridges got destroyed, the other one could still function.
Dual bridge doesn't usually mean separate systems - to do what you are suggesting you'd need to duplicate and separate the backplanes for each bridge because a destroyed bridge inc electronics would be throwing shorts and undervolts into the systems and probably cooking them. This is expensive (and is why meatspace battleships often had either limited or no auxiliary electronic systems). And yes, an A Wing is quite small, but add a dose of inertia and lots of nice vulnerable electronics... Even an auxiliary bridge would need duplicate systems in that situation.
Another way to differentiate between the Imperial Army and the Stormtrooper Corps is the see the parallel between German Wehrmacht in WWII and the Waffen SS, respectively.
So basically scout troopers are like the national guard or border patrol You're part of the military but not necessarily as skilled as the other branches. Above local police forces but still somewhat below the normal military
Do someone know where separatist's frigates have hangars? We can see hangar bay in s2 on cad bane's ship during these episodes about jedi kids and holocron, and i think that general grievous should have place to land his fighter somewhere but idk
There hangers were located along the sides of the ship. Republic cruisers did as well but less side ones since their ships had that large central main hanger
Oddly enough, I doubt the transition from Imperial rule to New Republic rule would go over as well. The sudden instability would shake a lot of things up such as currency as seen in the Mandalorian where the Credit is devalued and Mando would prefer something like Mom Calamari Flan. The galaxy was probably a breeding ground for all kinds of chaos and who knew if this "New Republic" could be trusted, let alone had the resources to adequately manage the galaxy that fell into their lap.
If you think about it, all the stuff we see in the movies is entirely unknown to 95% of the galaxy. Hell, most people probably don't even know about the Inquisitors, much less Darth Vader. If they do, the extent of their knowledge is probably "they're guys in black who do secret government stuff". I really liked Andor because it helped to show just how little the average Joe knew about galactic events.
@Darth Sidious Fair, well one example I can think of is the genocide of the sith. Or sterilizing the planet Desevro, Xenocide of the Ubese, secret prison camp on Belsavis, Pius Dea Crusades, Anti-Sith bill (which was used as an excuse for the new sith war), Mandalorian Excision. I admit some I didn't know about until now.
I have to disagree. Yes, Outer Rim worlds paid taxes and got nothing in return and the megacorporations taking over worlds did so after the Senate gave them permission, but I’m of the opinion the Republic only truly became the Empire during the last year of the Clone Wars. The two factions have dark similarities, but that isn’t the same as being practically alike.
@@Mate397 The Old Republic war crimes and Clone Wars war crimes? If war crimes were only a thing totalitarians did, than the Rebels shouldn’t be allowed to run the galaxy. No faction would. Every faction has people who commit war crimes. The Republic at least punished a number of war criminals in its ranks, though of course we know those with friends in high places like Tarkin and Anakin avoided too much scrutiny. Still, the Empire is one of the few factions who made war crimes a policy. Even with the Separatists, it’s more of who has a close or special relationship with Dooku and the Separatist Council. No so much as war crimes are policy as Dooku keeping a loose leash sometimes and needing some atrocities committed at others.
TIEs are faster, cheaper, more maneuverable, and more terrifying. Their weapons systems may have been inferior (for the standard TIE model: TIE Interceptors were better than V-Wings and TIE Bombers were better than ARCs), but with the numbers they were deployed in, they could do everything a V-Wing could, and Star Destroyers had more firepower than they knew what to do with. As for Venators, they had far less offensive firepower and were much less durable than Star Destroyers, which were also far more terrifying figures due to their size. They were better carriers, sure, but Star Destroyers were good enough, and with their other advantages and the Imperial emphasis on firepower over just about everything else, good enough was indeed good enough.
Most Imperial crafts make no sense while Republican ones do. How on earth is an AT-AT in anyway an improvement to anything? It shoots in only one direction. Original trilogy Imperial stuff were just Lucas giving us symbols of evil. Nothing about the Imperial designs make in-universe sense while some Republic stuff kind of do.
The AT-AT had much more powerful weaponry than the AT-TE, and far more space for transporting troops. It also had much better armor, to the point where Rebel weapons couldn't even scratch them until they hit a part that wasn't armored.
The Venetor ships are beautiful. If they didn't have that stupid bridge they would be amazing. Make the brdige like the Stargate Destiny Ship. Give the ship more hangars and make it bigger. More fighters and a slick but bulky design and oyu have the best possible ship you might ever want. Damn I wish I could design a ship.. if it wasnt for my horrible mistrained hands.. I can't draw anything... I'm lefthanded but was forced to learn right-handed during elementary school which killed any and all chance to ever have something like good writing or drawing skills :(
Ok, I Noticed that blaster shots won’t hurt Beskar Steel but, will ricochet off the walls of New Republic jail cells and inside the Empire’s trash compactors. Seams to me a trash can of the Empire’s could make a pretty good set of armor. What’s so special about Beskar besides it’s expensive?
Weight. It would be impractical to use Duracrete/Thick Durasteel in combat due to how much material you would need to wear to have blaster bolts bounce off slowing you down if not leaving you unable to move, not to mention on the off chance that you end up fighting a Jedi they can melt through your armor and some hand held blasters can still get through(the DC-15 A Rifle and the Westar 32 hand canon come to mind) while you need some type of turret or an explosive to get past Beskar if it’s of good quality and thick enough to resemble standard Clone/Stormtrooper armor(aka Mando, Gar Saxon[TCW] and a few others kits with the Fett set and most Death Watch derivative Mandalorians having armor able to be pierced or dented by stronger blasters or Lightsabers at the right angle[ie:every time a Mando shot another one with a Westar, the Boba vs Cad Bane duel, and how Ashoka cut through some Death Watch members in an episode of TCW]). Light Durasteel armor would offer similar protection to a weaker set of Beskar as seen in Legends, however at a cost in long term use(Bo Katan’s armor has existed as an armor set for at least 500 years with only relatively minor non cosmetic and technical changes while Boba had to occasionally make repairs in Legends and Din’s chest plate didn’t survive a blow even a weak Beskar set could take from that mudhorn in the second episode of the Mandalorian).
That thumbnail of the Clone trooper and storm trooper,, where did you get that? it looks amazing, i want that as my desktop background, but i cant find it :C
I guess that Explains why the Empire's Storm-Troopers have such terrible Aim, they're not as well trained as the Republic's Clone-Troopers. Edit: Since the Clones were started to Declined, the Empire basically just started recruiting random people in the Streets to become Storm-Troopers, what a Shocker.
Wait, I knew Ti Fighters from Sienar become the first choice in starfighters production after rebels stole the prototypes from Xwing, so I guess later after Clone Wars end, during the first years of government before rebels became more organized, I guess.
This is just a random question but is the coruscaunt guard the only legion with multiple clone commanders because if I recall correctly they have 5 commanders those being Fox,Thorn🎚️,Thire, Stone and Hound........ also why did they have so many commanders???!!!! As far as I know their the only legion to have more than one commander let alone 5!!!!!
I have to strongly disagree with the comment about TIEs being better than Republic era craft, especially given the existence of the Z95 and the V-Wing, the only real advntage they had was numbers, because they were so cheap
So in the end the imperial stuff was already there during thé clone wars but mostly held back by uncle Palpat... Must have absorbed the forbidden tech from the CIS side as well. Though I still fail to see how the tie fighters are better compared to v wing or even arc 170. Faster than the latter maybe and though you explain well they are not supposed to be used in wars but peace keeping operations against poorly armed rebels, I doubt the efficiency and cost effectivness of switching all those models for tie fighters was worth it in the end.
Just want to point out that tie bombers are way more clunky and slow then the Y wing and ISD's are also big slow and clunky So its very much in imperial taste to have big and clunky stuff its just the ARC170 and Y wing didn't fit with the esthetic of the Imperial navy and they were too expensive compared to the standard tie and they wanted their military to seem endless by having a bunch of stuff that looks the same or similar as a fear tactic.
The Republic would have fallen anyway as individual systems rebelled against exploitation and mismanagement. But it would have been messier and lasted decades. Darth Sidious just took advantage of a political situation that already existed between the Core Worlds and the Outer systems and manipulated the Confederacy into starting a war he could use to exterminate the Jedi and shut down himself (by deactivating the droids). The anti-alien bias in the Empire reflected prejudice against racial minorities that had started a devastating war.
Well acrually i think most of the things the republic had where not so bad, actually the arc 170 has the same stats of the tie fighter... but truth to be it was expensive, like one millenium falcon and a half.... so its a good fighter, fast but expensive for a galxy Wide imperium who baaically preffer the kind of "Police control" to open warfare style i mean: As i said the Arc, ATTE, juggernauts, Y wings, venators, where vehicles for open warfare as counterpart the empire ATAT for example its a super big Apc filled with troops, and ATTE, was more like a tank, or the ATST, its more like a light tank, than a propper tank, because of that "in my opinion" The Arc was perfect as the venators, as the Laats but for an army an a type of war no longer exists, but for example perfect for the rebels which they had an open war with the empire, and need everything they could take.
The republic had ceased to exist long before Palpatine declared it.
That is so true.
And because of this, it and the Old Jedi Order were rightfully destroyed so for the New Republic (later, the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances) and the New Jedi Order to rise from their ashes.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I would love for the Jedi to remain dead and forgotten, they're just repeating the same mistakes they did in the clone wars era, no change and no reformation just defenders of their own Virginia's..
@@LordEmperorHyperion So long as there are people born with Force sensitivity, there will always be a need for the Jedi Order in some form or another... or at the very least some kind of order of Force sensitives aligned with the Light Side of the Force.
Also, I have to figure that rehabilitating the image of the Jedi after public opinion swaying against them during the Clone Wars, followed by decades of Imperial propaganda against them would be quite the uphill battle anyway.
@@LordEmperorHyperion In Legends that's false, I'm pretty sure they didn't make the same mistakes the old Jedi order did. And in the sequels, that's true, but the people who made those films had no idea what they were doing. They should've let most of Legends remain canon and follow Lucas' original sequel trilogy plan.
"What I remember about the Rise of the Empire is...is how quiet it was"
*A retired clone trooper's journal, Battlefront II (2005)*
We never really got used to the new guys
Random clone trooper in the cafeteria “Anyway, looks like they found a recruit added to the Sad Batch🤣”
Other clones: 😐
Hope that retired clone lived well to the end... lest he might get lynched.
@@capslatt7208 Pretty much yah
@@michaelandreipalon359 they probably honestly didn’t live well after retirement. Lot of people more than likely held great resentment and hatred for the clones after order 66
Palpatine did all of the legally. That is alway the most amazing part to me. He didn’t force the galaxy the become the empire, he convinced them it was the best opt
Some people truly feel like the prequels and the lore from the clone wars was unnecessary, but I’ve always said it did a great job in showing how something like a large scale galactic empire could even possible come into existence.
Accurate to real history. The Roman Republic was gradually corrupted to the Roman Empire in a span of about a century and Hitler used the unpopularity of the Weimar Republic and the economic crises at the time to make the Nazis control Germany.
@@hydrogendiamond5830 hate of minorities is other thing that the nazis and empire have in common
Even now we know that democracy has its shortcomings. Ideally, a tyranny of the "wise men" (quoting Platoon, maybe? Can't remember) would be the ideal. There are four problems on that:
1. A tyranny is inherently unfair by its own definition, no matter who rules.
2. It's hard to find a shared definition of "wise men".
3. You just need one bad ruler to ruin the government forever.
4. Corruption runs rampant.
The latter two can be shared with democracies too, to an extent.
Still, if I knew FOR SURE that someone honest and sane was gonna rule, without racism or other irrational prejudices, probably a tyranny would be the way to go in real life.
@@Alfonso88279 umm freedom/liberty is far better lmao. “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Wrecker talking about “the new armory” makes it seem like Palpatine was laying the foundation for the Empires weaponry during the clone wars.
I mean Imperator and Victory Class Star Destroyers were now being mass produced, Clones were being given weapons such as E-11, Clone Fighters became more like Tie Fighters, Clone Armor Phase II looked very similar to Stormtrooper armor, At-Ats were being made, aswell as At-Sts. Yeah Palpatine was definitely pushing Imperial weaponry during the Clone Wars.
Rex: "My loyalty was to the Republic, not your empire!"
Imperial officer: "Are you sure about that?"
In truth both the Galactic Republic’s Military complex and Galactic Senate was already shaping the Galaxy into the Galactic Empire by giving Palpatine centralized power onto himself, and no doubt that the Sith were expecting such results from this one thousand year plan.
Well said!
They kept on voting Palpatine more and more executive powers over the years of Clone Wars to the point where the Republic is basically is a republic in name only.
Yeah. The Jedi and a small group of senators like Bail Organa, Padme, and Mon Mothma were the only ones that were really keeping the last bits of the Republic alive. Get rid of the Jedi and silence the disobedient senators, and you'd have no resistance and you could do whatever you want. Palpatine was already a dictator even before the CW ended.
It didn't help that the citizens supported the Empire in the early years and that he had an army of hyperloyal Clones.
Kinda sounds like a certain faction in my government that keeps trying to do an pull in more an more for themselves
@@robertagu5533 Where are you from? Hong Kong?
@@hunterkiller1440 Continental US an unfortunately watching half of it turn into a modern Socialist/Communist nation while the other half sits by with their heads in the sand. Then the rest of us saying something or another but no one does or has ability or power to do much besides that... Heres hoping for ANYTHING to work out at this point
@@robertagu5533 How is it socialism/communism when it's the wealthy capitalists in control oligarchy style? I'm curious because I'm actually living under a communist regime.
Pretty sure that Vader's Fist is one of the only units that still mainly used Fett clones because Vader liked them more
@Ultra Brian just realised that I did that typo thanks for telling me
Last time I was this early the Rakata still ruled the galaxy
😂👌 this is awesome bro
Damn bro, I remember the day their force powers were stripped
WTF is that pfp?
I like that peasants and kinghts comparison, Geetsly.
More like the Imperial Guard compared to the Space Marines for me.
*knights
Bit random, but between me and my mates, our insult word is peasant
Seeing the early days of the Empire, and seeing how it consolidated it’s power within the galaxy is one of the things I really love about The Bad Batch, and I just hope the don’t jump through this time period to fast, as IMO it’s fascinating, as is seeing them adapt to no longer having pre-existing support systems in place to provide for their needs.
I’m really interested in the Purge Troopers and would love to hear more about them. I thought they were one of the coolest additions to Fallen Order, and they were my favorite trooper. I think knowing how they came into service would be really cool!
the aclamator's stayed in use in the imperial navy as well.
Also AT-AT's always struck me as unwieldy cumbersome beasts even compared to the AT-TE. I'm curious and maybe this is a potential video topic, just how "all terrain" were the AT vehicles?
Corruption, greed, arrogance and fear crushed a republic that stood for a thousand and brought a second galactic dark age to the galaxy.
@Darth Sidious that‘s during the time immediately before Darth Bane. The republic collapses and only the Jedi remain while the Sith rule the galaxy while fighting them selves. Technology regresses and life gets worse
That thumbnail is great
The person who made it deserves a pay rise
Needs V-Wings and TIE Fighters though.
GEETSLYS u bloody legend have a good day
Thank you!
As someone who serves in the us military, the marines aren’t some elite “stormtrooper” like force. Yes their boot camp is slightly longer than the other branches, but the USMC exists solely to be the ground force for Naval Operations. A marine infantry platoon is pretty much the same as an army one. Even now in 2021 the USMC is moving more towards antiship and electronic warfare than they are infantry. Not to piss on the legacy of the corps but they aren’t some elite branch when 9/10 of them aren’t even infantry but some support MOS
I think a more valid comparison would be green berets or Navy Seals as an elite unit i.e. stormtroopers.
@@shaydowsith348 honestly they are more like the ranger regiment if anything
Geetslys: sponsored by knock-off AirPods.
Apple: It’s treason then
Me: I need to get myself some of those Raycon earbuds.
wireless earbuds "knockoff airpods"
The consumer has fallen in love with the company!
@@mcfixer9503 thats the only reason they still exist.
I love the Empire, especially death troopers and shore troopers wish they would make them look as good as they are
I like how Lucas wrote this as an analogy for both the Roman Empire and the USA.
And the british empire as well.
Amazing Thumbnail blew me away
Thank you!
So does this mean that the more elite branches in storm troopers would be considered low ranking lords among the Empire. Then to be an Imperial Guard of Emperor Palpatine would be among one of the highest honoured positions within the Empire .
Did the Rebels ever use any CW era vehicles against the Empire? I know they used Y-Wings and a Lucrehulk against the Death Star, but did they use others?
The video game Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds showed that the Rebels in the early days were not above using old CIS military assets with a repaint.
In legends rahm kotas milltia used the DC 15 blaster since they had pleanty of those left and they were considered a pretty solid weapon still along with the rotary blasters
Yes. In Fallen Order, you see some dropships parked, being used by the local rebel forces we as some of the troopers using the DC15 blasters.
One could argue the case that the Empire really began ehen Palpatine was elected Supreme Chancellor. Evil Mastermind played the long game, to horrific effect.
I doubt that. Got one thing, Palpatine could be legally elected out. Yeah, he got around getting legally kicked out by creating the Separatist Crisis, but I’m of the opinion that so long as the Jedi Order and Senate still had power, the Republic was standing. The Senate did have the authority during the war to make peace with the CIS and decrease the military budget. If you have to use scare tactics and terrorism to get people to vote on your side, I say there is still hope. I say the Republic died during Order 66, when the last legal enemy of Palpatine was crushed, the Jedi Order. The Senate died sometime between when they gave Palpatine control of the banks and the Battle of Coruscant. Sometime during that period they gave Palpatine the last of their power to stop him, thus leading to them being replaced by military governors after the Battle of Coruscant.
The Republic didn't become the Empire in ROTS, it had already become the Empire by that point. Quote from the ROTS novelization:
"To ensure that we will always stand together, that we will always speak with a single voice and act with a single hand, the Republic must change. We must evolve. We must grow. We have become an empire in fact; let us become an Empire in name as well! We are the first Galactic Empire!
"
sure the empire saw the AT-TE as old but i dont see AT-AT climbing 90 degree cliffs lol
Half of the military changes were actually good. Star Destroyers and ground vehicles were an improvement, whereas the Stormtroopers and TIE fighters where a downgrade.
I used to be a fan of The forced unleased as a video game and the clone wars as a series, so i had some starwars knowledge. But as I've become an adult I've been heavily intrigued with the politics and how the republic became the empire, it's very interesting
I mean by the end of the war, the Republic was very in line with what the Empire was, most power was given to the Executive branch and Palpatine, the Clone Army was already trying out Stormtrooper and Imperial fighters, Capital Ships, armor, and weapons, the Jedi had very few numbers left and were spread thin along with losing support, also most Military leaders were now fully loyal to Palpatine, along with the Senate practically having no power anymore. The Republic was the Empire by the end of the war, but nobody saw it.
Maul did.
Have you done "What if" scenario where Admiral Thrawn's Defender program beat the Stardust project and how that would have affected the Civil War against the Rebellion.
Something I have been meaning to ask. What happened to the Council of Neutral Systems after the Clone Wars? How did they deal with the Empire?
As for those Raycons at 0:43, you should see what @GrayStillPlays does to his.
The announcement of the Empire is just the last step. All Sith worked on destroying the Republic and the Jedi. Plagueis and Palpatine were no different. The fact alone Palpatine was elected Supreme Chancellor proves how influential the Sith had already been, even before they were offcially in charge. After his election, he had ten years to prepare the Republic for the transition. The Clone Wars were only the last phase. By the time Palpatine announced the New Order, the Republic had already ceased to exist.
How the hell did republic bureaucrats and civil servants get along with the new authoritarian measures?
The do or die mentality... Fearing what would happen if the CIS took over if they didn't.. Later fearing what Palps, Vader, Etc Imperial forces would do later
Im really surprised that GAR Clone armor was inferior to the rising conscripts armor. My belief was Fett clones were superior in everyway.
However tragic the Jedi purge was, the Clones did get a lot done..."Respect for Clones!"
Excellent video as usual, Lord Geetsly.
Its like what Maul said during the 2nd last episode of TCW
IIRC Darth Vader's 501st Legion was the last pure Feat-clone unit and only started to take non-feet clone and volunteer replacements when Fett-clones were no longer available.
Question that I've been wondering about. Did Palpatine NEED the Republic to destroy the Confederation, or would he have been just as happy with the Confederacy winning? I mean, he was in charge of both. He would have ruled the galaxy either way, right?
The bad batch shows this beautifully
Silly palpatine
What a BUFFOON
Video Idea: Who's the wealthiest in the Galaxy? Everyone talks about how much they need to pay, but who could really pay the most? If there's a video already, post the link please!
The umbara arc from the clone wars really shows how the republic was slowly becoming the empire.
Because good soldiers follow orders
The Republic will be reorganized...into the first... *Galactic* ...EMPIRE!
Easy answer
The republic and the empire werent all that different, main difference was that the republic had jedi and empire didnt
I'd actually love the video about the other aspects of the transition that you mentioned in your intro. Please make those videos!
You deserve more subscribers! You make these really well
Your voice is so smooth while I got the deepest raspy voice ever I sound like cross hair 😭
It's the Aussie accent!
Stop complaining about a good trait.
Why are there thirty different videos about this subject in every star wars lore channel
Most of the channels on "Star Wars" dwell on same topics in most cases. Another similarity I found while going through these, whenever they make a video on a certain topic, they provide unnecessary background info too much that become irritating to watch sometimes.
if i may, on the topic of ewok steak, the general size and shape of the ewok wouldn't make for a good "steak" as we think of it (ie. from a cow).. now ewok roast, or ribs, probably a far better idea!
You know, the Empire should have used Venators. They have way larger hangars that can hold all of those TIE fighters, and even though they are slower than the ISDs, they don't really need to be that fast, considering that rebels mostly use cargo ships and transports. Also, the Venators had two bridges, providing a way better view of the battle, which is what the Empire really needed. Remember when Piett couldn't see the tiny A wing heading toward the bridge? If one of the bridges got destroyed, the other one could still function.
Dual bridge doesn't usually mean separate systems - to do what you are suggesting you'd need to duplicate and separate the backplanes for each bridge because a destroyed bridge inc electronics would be throwing shorts and undervolts into the systems and probably cooking them. This is expensive (and is why meatspace battleships often had either limited or no auxiliary electronic systems).
And yes, an A Wing is quite small, but add a dose of inertia and lots of nice vulnerable electronics... Even an auxiliary bridge would need duplicate systems in that situation.
Using ISD wasn't so much about actual tactical ability - more about the size and image - the fears the thing.
@@rosiehawtrey nerd
Another way to differentiate between the Imperial Army and the Stormtrooper Corps is the see the parallel between German Wehrmacht in WWII and the Waffen SS, respectively.
So basically scout troopers are like the national guard or border patrol You're part of the military but not necessarily as skilled as the other branches. Above local police forces but still somewhat below the normal military
“I AM THE SENATE” said palpatine. That’s how it happened lol 😂
Do someone know where separatist's frigates have hangars? We can see hangar bay in s2 on cad bane's ship during these episodes about jedi kids and holocron, and i think that general grievous should have place to land his fighter somewhere but idk
There hangers were located along the sides of the ship. Republic cruisers did as well but less side ones since their ships had that large central main hanger
A lot of it was external mounting
That AT-XT looks sick!
Which do you prefer AT-TE or AT-AT
MT-AT master race
Interesting explanation
I can never get enough Geetsly's
Oddly enough, I doubt the transition from Imperial rule to New Republic rule would go over as well. The sudden instability would shake a lot of things up such as currency as seen in the Mandalorian where the Credit is devalued and Mando would prefer something like Mom Calamari Flan. The galaxy was probably a breeding ground for all kinds of chaos and who knew if this "New Republic" could be trusted, let alone had the resources to adequately manage the galaxy that fell into their lap.
Funny that the Aquarius Class Frigate/Light Cruiser served through the entire Clone Wars and into Imperial Remnant times
If you think about it, all the stuff we see in the movies is entirely unknown to 95% of the galaxy. Hell, most people probably don't even know about the Inquisitors, much less Darth Vader. If they do, the extent of their knowledge is probably "they're guys in black who do secret government stuff". I really liked Andor because it helped to show just how little the average Joe knew about galactic events.
Officially, there never was a clone rebellion on Kamino.
Let's not forget that even before Palpatine, the Republic wasn't too different from the Empire.
@Darth Sidious Think way back in the old republic times
@Darth Sidious Fair, well one example I can think of is the genocide of the sith. Or sterilizing the planet Desevro, Xenocide of the Ubese, secret prison camp on Belsavis, Pius Dea Crusades, Anti-Sith bill (which was used as an excuse for the new sith war), Mandalorian Excision. I admit some I didn't know about until now.
I have to disagree. Yes, Outer Rim worlds paid taxes and got nothing in return and the megacorporations taking over worlds did so after the Senate gave them permission, but I’m of the opinion the Republic only truly became the Empire during the last year of the Clone Wars. The two factions have dark similarities, but that isn’t the same as being practically alike.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 And the genocides? I listed a few things in another reply in this thread.
@@Mate397 The Old Republic war crimes and Clone Wars war crimes? If war crimes were only a thing totalitarians did, than the Rebels shouldn’t be allowed to run the galaxy. No faction would. Every faction has people who commit war crimes. The Republic at least punished a number of war criminals in its ranks, though of course we know those with friends in high places like Tarkin and Anakin avoided too much scrutiny. Still, the Empire is one of the few factions who made war crimes a policy. Even with the Separatists, it’s more of who has a close or special relationship with Dooku and the Separatist Council. No so much as war crimes are policy as Dooku keeping a loose leash sometimes and needing some atrocities committed at others.
Uploaded 12 mins ago, nice
Governments don’t change over night.
Them raycon headphones are still close to 80 USD
GEETSLY'S WHAT!? ANSWER THE QUESTION WHAT IS GEETSLY'S???????????
Good soldiers follow orders.
Venators? Obsolete? What balderdash?!
And how the heck are TIEs superior to the ARCs and V-Wings?!
you just don't want to hear the truth
TIEs are faster, cheaper, more maneuverable, and more terrifying. Their weapons systems may have been inferior (for the standard TIE model: TIE Interceptors were better than V-Wings and TIE Bombers were better than ARCs), but with the numbers they were deployed in, they could do everything a V-Wing could, and Star Destroyers had more firepower than they knew what to do with.
As for Venators, they had far less offensive firepower and were much less durable than Star Destroyers, which were also far more terrifying figures due to their size. They were better carriers, sure, but Star Destroyers were good enough, and with their other advantages and the Imperial emphasis on firepower over just about everything else, good enough was indeed good enough.
Thumbnail art source? It's freaking awesome
*"Thank you!"* 👍🏼
Most Imperial crafts make no sense while Republican ones do.
How on earth is an AT-AT in anyway an improvement to anything? It shoots in only one direction.
Original trilogy Imperial stuff were just Lucas giving us symbols of evil. Nothing about the Imperial designs make in-universe sense while some Republic stuff kind of do.
The AT-AT had much more powerful weaponry than the AT-TE, and far more space for transporting troops. It also had much better armor, to the point where Rebel weapons couldn't even scratch them until they hit a part that wasn't armored.
The galaxy deserved the Empire.
My boys in teh Courscant guard helped alot
The Venetor ships are beautiful.
If they didn't have that stupid bridge they would be amazing.
Make the brdige like the Stargate Destiny Ship.
Give the ship more hangars and make it bigger. More fighters and a slick but bulky design and oyu have the best possible ship you might ever want.
Damn I wish I could design a ship.. if it wasnt for my horrible mistrained hands.. I can't draw anything... I'm lefthanded but was forced to learn right-handed during elementary school which killed any and all chance to ever have something like good writing or drawing skills :(
Ok, I Noticed that blaster shots won’t hurt Beskar Steel but, will ricochet off the walls of New Republic jail cells and inside the Empire’s trash compactors. Seams to me a trash can of the Empire’s could make a pretty good set of armor. What’s so special about Beskar besides it’s expensive?
Weight. It would be impractical to use Duracrete/Thick Durasteel in combat due to how much material you would need to wear to have blaster bolts bounce off slowing you down if not leaving you unable to move, not to mention on the off chance that you end up fighting a Jedi they can melt through your armor and some hand held blasters can still get through(the DC-15 A Rifle and the Westar 32 hand canon come to mind) while you need some type of turret or an explosive to get past Beskar if it’s of good quality and thick enough to resemble standard Clone/Stormtrooper armor(aka Mando, Gar Saxon[TCW] and a few others kits with the Fett set and most Death Watch derivative Mandalorians having armor able to be pierced or dented by stronger blasters or Lightsabers at the right angle[ie:every time a Mando shot another one with a Westar, the Boba vs Cad Bane duel, and how Ashoka cut through some Death Watch members in an episode of TCW]). Light Durasteel armor would offer similar protection to a weaker set of Beskar as seen in Legends, however at a cost in long term use(Bo Katan’s armor has existed as an armor set for at least 500 years with only relatively minor non cosmetic and technical changes while Boba had to occasionally make repairs in Legends and Din’s chest plate didn’t survive a blow even a weak Beskar set could take from that mudhorn in the second episode of the Mandalorian).
Wish you had links to the other videos below with all your links to patreon, etc.
Does better armor matter when the helmet visabity suffered so heavily with the new models?
That thumbnail of the Clone trooper and storm trooper,, where did you get that? it looks amazing, i want that as my desktop background, but i cant find it :C
6 legs > 4 legs "how does it not fall over?! "
I guess that Explains why the Empire's Storm-Troopers have such terrible Aim, they're not as well trained as the Republic's Clone-Troopers.
Edit: Since the Clones were started to Declined, the Empire basically just started recruiting random people in the Streets to become Storm-Troopers, what a Shocker.
Everybody gangsta till I'm listening to people talk about raycons whilst wearing raycons
Wait, I knew Ti Fighters from Sienar become the first choice in starfighters production after rebels stole the prototypes from Xwing, so I guess later after Clone Wars end, during the first years of government before rebels became more organized, I guess.
This is just a random question but is the coruscaunt guard the only legion with multiple clone commanders because if I recall correctly they have 5 commanders those being Fox,Thorn🎚️,Thire, Stone and Hound........ also why did they have so many commanders???!!!! As far as I know their the only legion to have more than one commander let alone 5!!!!!
could you do a video on the infantry weapons of the imperial stormtrooper corps and army?
Where can I find the art for this thumbnail? It’s so cool!
How does one get all this information?
I have to strongly disagree with the comment about TIEs being better than Republic era craft, especially given the existence of the Z95 and the V-Wing, the only real advntage they had was numbers, because they were so cheap
The Republic ceased to be a republic before palpatine
It became a oligarchy in essentially
This is Canon for me!
So in the end the imperial stuff was already there during thé clone wars but mostly held back by uncle Palpat... Must have absorbed the forbidden tech from the CIS side as well. Though I still fail to see how the tie fighters are better compared to v wing or even arc 170. Faster than the latter maybe and though you explain well they are not supposed to be used in wars but peace keeping operations against poorly armed rebels, I doubt the efficiency and cost effectivness of switching all those models for tie fighters was worth it in the end.
Just want to point out that tie bombers are way more clunky and slow then the Y wing and ISD's are also big slow and clunky
So its very much in imperial taste to have big and clunky stuff its just the ARC170 and Y wing didn't fit with the esthetic of the Imperial navy and they were too expensive compared to the standard tie and they wanted their military to seem endless by having a bunch of stuff that looks the same or similar as a fear tactic.
Seems like a lot more gear was a downgrade then an upgrade
The GAR is still more aesthetic. Change my mind.
The Republic died after the battle of Russan
The death was just that dragged out
The Republic would have fallen anyway as individual systems rebelled against exploitation and mismanagement. But it would have been messier and lasted decades. Darth Sidious just took advantage of a political situation that already existed between the Core Worlds and the Outer systems and manipulated the Confederacy into starting a war he could use to exterminate the Jedi and shut down himself (by deactivating the droids). The anti-alien bias in the Empire reflected prejudice against racial minorities that had started a devastating war.
Well acrually i think most of the things the republic had where not so bad, actually the arc 170 has the same stats of the tie fighter... but truth to be it was expensive, like one millenium falcon and a half.... so its a good fighter, fast but expensive for a galxy Wide imperium who baaically preffer the kind of "Police control" to open warfare style i mean:
As i said the Arc, ATTE, juggernauts, Y wings, venators, where vehicles for open warfare as counterpart the empire ATAT for example its a super big Apc filled with troops, and ATTE, was more like a tank, or the ATST, its more like a light tank, than a propper tank, because of that "in my opinion"
The Arc was perfect as the venators, as the Laats but for an army an a type of war no longer exists, but for example perfect for the rebels which they had an open war with the empire, and need everything they could take.
You literally glitched Ruth's surname to make it Ruth Ugly XD