Thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. I have always wanted to build my own automatic transmission but never had the confidence until watching your videos. You did a great job with filming and explaining everything! I am currently on video 17, almost there! Again I really appreciate you sharing with us!
Thanks for watching!! Yup, it's not really so mysterious once you start digging in... and the satisfaction of knowing YOU built it is never ending. Good luck with your build 👍
@@wrenchingwithphil You are absolutely correct! I’m installing it in my 74 corvette. I built a 383 stroker that makes a little over 500hp. I built the entire car as well as the engine. I left the 4 speed manual, from my research the 2004r should be exactly what I am looking for on the highway. Again many thanks!
Outstanding videos. I plan on watching every one this winter. I'm a retired ASE master and already tried rebuilding mine out of my GN but i made some stupid mistakes. So i hired someone to do it who claimed to be the "guru" of 200-4Rs but I had to give it to him twice and it's still not right. After he installed a shift kit, it was breaking the forward clutch drum on a 3-2 downshift so we installed the billet drum. The guy who is apparently the real local "guru" on these cars is Vince Janis from Janis Transmissions in Akron Ohio but I'm not sure I want to throw down $1000s of dollars if i can possibly do it myself. Your videos may inspire me to give it another try.
Thanks for watching! As a retired ASE master you'll certainly be able to do it... try again and follow the videos. In the worst case, if you run into some issue that you think can't be addressed, ship it off to the vendor to finish for you. Better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all!! Oh and imagine the pride when you're cruising in the GN and chirping the gears knowing you built the box creating the chirp. Instant smile 😎 Good luck in whatever direction you take (but try it lol!!)
good afternoon friend, I would like to ask you a question to see if you can help me. A friend gave me a complete th200-4r transmission rebuild and everything perfect except the valve body. the overdrive valve when pressed has very little tension, when it is pressed about halfway; that's where it starts to have strong tension. I would like to know if that valve body is like that or if that spring is bad because here in Venezuela we have little knowledge and spare parts for it. I would greatly appreciate your answer my friend.
How do I identify my trans been a while since I have worked on them was a heavy duty mechanic in the 70,80s GM Chrysler thanks for taking the time to do this videio. '
Thanks for watching and asking! Bet you have some good stories from 'the days' for sure... On the back right side by the tailshaft there's an id tag held on by a rivet. The large 2 or 3 letters code is what you want to read. I'm doing a CZF code tranny here. The 8 high performance ones are below until the OZ. BRF 1986-1987 Grand National, Turbo T, T-type BQ 1984-1985 Grand National, T-type BR 1983 T-type TAF 1989 Turbo Trans Am CZF 1985-1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS CRF 1985-1988 Monte Carlo 305 engine LG4 KZF Oldsmobile 442/Hurst OZ 1983-1984 Hurst Olds OM Oldsmobile 350 Diesel Engines OG Oldsmobile 307 Engines BY 252 V6 cars AA Cadillac AP Cadillac
@@wrenchingwithphil Thanks for the response was wondering how much wobble there is on the output shaft the T 400 had none as the main shaft went straight through this tail shaft moves a bit more than I am used to do the use the driveshaft yoke to center it ?
Phil, I just bought a 200-4r from a Monte Carlo SS, I want to rebuild it and put it in my LS swapped Chevelle. Do you have a comprehensive list of components you used to build your tranny? Thanks, subbed
Hi Phil, would a CH code 200-4r work behind a stock 327 engine in a 68 Camaro and what kind of upgrades would I need to it? Or is better to look for different core with one of the performance codes?
is a CRF 2004-r any good online says came from V8 Monte Carlo LG4 not a high output 5.0 , i have a run of the mill roller 305 motor from a camaro installed in monte carlo and just want to daily drive the car nothing performance about it is it any good
Thanks for watching and Absolutely! It's a run of the mill 200-4r non high performance one as you wrote and will be fine for your run of the mill 305 motor daily driver. Being on the highway in overdrive is likely the biggest benefit for you... rebuild it as stock with a shift kit and no need for most all the mods I show as they're likely overkill for your needs. Good luck with your build!
Just sub to your channel great video man i have a 79 z28 n i belive they replace the transmission at some point so now im trying to learn as i go lol keep posting very helpful 👊🏻
So seems my trans is an 84 Olds for a 307 is it worth building I am looking for a good street trans for a 72 GP 455 400HP looks like a lot of hard parts need upgrading thanks Phil.
@@wrenchingwithphil Thanks for getting back to me. I have a Olds 455 built 600hp/680 Tq I want to run a 2004r but want it to last. I found a gentleman by the name of Art Karr in Huntington Beach who has a good reputation. He provided me a parts list and I was wondering if you’d be able to review for me and make any suggestions
@@davidh4969 Sure, post away. **Just know that I'm a shmo not a pro** lol. I built the 2004r for my 66 Chevelle seen in the beginning of part 3 of this 2004r rebuild video series. It's lived about 9 years behind a sbc 383 stroker ( I also built that engine:-) ) with a mini 174 blower that is similar spec but a bit less torque to your Olds engine. The 2004r I'm building in this youtube series is going to live behind a bbc with an 871 blower so a few more billet/rollerized parts than my Chevelle previous build and maybe more than you need for yours. When building my 66 Chevelle 2004r I used (and you should consider using as well... **but remember I'm not a pro just a shmo**): shift recalibration kit bigger servo billet forward drum billet input shaft heat treated pump stator shaft heat treated sun gear shell wide intermediate band hardened pump vane rings (stock 7 vane rotor or change to 10 NOT 13) Deep oil pan 700r4 filter higher stall torque converter(lock up since street car) dual feed direct clutch extra 4th gear clutch Just for reference, in this video series I'll show installation of all the above plus some rollerized parts, billet overdrive carrier, billet overdrive ring gear as well a bunch of internal mods and special setup like modifying tolerances to make them 'just right', blueprinting the oil pump, etc and some basic 'upgrades' like enlarging the pump oil return holes, etc
I highly recommend NOT getting parts from CK performance. I ordered the pro street kit and sent in my parts for modification 4 months ago. I was quoted 2 weeks at that time, and I finally got a human on the phone today (after many tries) and they now say sometime next year but nothing more precise. I may have to sue them to get my parts back. Terrible service.
Thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. I have always wanted to build my own automatic transmission but never had the confidence until watching your videos. You did a great job with filming and explaining everything! I am currently on video 17, almost there! Again I really appreciate you sharing with us!
Thanks for watching!! Yup, it's not really so mysterious once you start digging in... and the satisfaction of knowing YOU built it is never ending. Good luck with your build 👍
@@wrenchingwithphil You are absolutely correct! I’m installing it in my 74 corvette. I built a 383 stroker that makes a little over 500hp. I built the entire car as well as the engine. I left the 4 speed manual, from my research the 2004r should be exactly what I am looking for on the highway. Again many thanks!
Outstanding videos. I plan on watching every one this winter. I'm a retired ASE master and already tried rebuilding mine out of my GN but i made some stupid mistakes. So i hired someone to do it who claimed to be the "guru" of 200-4Rs but I had to give it to him twice and it's still not right. After he installed a shift kit, it was breaking the forward clutch drum on a 3-2 downshift so we installed the billet drum. The guy who is apparently the real local "guru" on these cars is Vince Janis from Janis Transmissions in Akron Ohio but I'm not sure I want to throw down $1000s of dollars if i can possibly do it myself. Your videos may inspire me to give it another try.
Thanks for watching!
As a retired ASE master you'll certainly be able to do it... try again and follow the videos. In the worst case, if you run into some issue that you think can't be addressed, ship it off to the vendor to finish for you.
Better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all!! Oh and imagine the pride when you're cruising in the GN and chirping the gears knowing you built the box creating the chirp. Instant smile 😎
Good luck in whatever direction you take (but try it lol!!)
Awesome video going to apply as much of knowledge and updates to a THM 200C
Thanks for watching and good luck with your build of the 3 speed predecessor!
Currently looking for a kit with a shift kit . Where do you recommend to buy from !? Thanks for the rebuild video gonna use it when I dig into mine !
Thanks for watching!
I like the www.ckperformance.com/List/GM-Transmissions/2004R kits
Good luck with your build
good afternoon friend, I would like to ask you a question to see if you can help me. A friend gave me a complete th200-4r transmission rebuild and everything perfect except the valve body. the overdrive valve when pressed has very little tension, when it is pressed about halfway; that's where it starts to have strong tension. I would like to know if that valve body is like that or if that spring is bad because here in Venezuela we have little knowledge and spare parts for it. I would greatly appreciate your answer my friend.
How do I identify my trans been a while since I have worked on them was a heavy duty mechanic in the 70,80s GM Chrysler thanks for taking the time to do this videio.
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Thanks for watching and asking! Bet you have some good stories from 'the days' for sure...
On the back right side by the tailshaft there's an id tag held on by a rivet. The large 2 or 3 letters code is what you want to read. I'm doing a CZF code tranny here.
The 8 high performance ones are below until the OZ.
BRF 1986-1987 Grand National, Turbo T, T-type
BQ 1984-1985 Grand National, T-type
BR 1983 T-type
TAF 1989 Turbo Trans Am
CZF 1985-1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
CRF 1985-1988 Monte Carlo 305 engine LG4
KZF Oldsmobile 442/Hurst
OZ 1983-1984 Hurst Olds
OM Oldsmobile 350 Diesel Engines
OG Oldsmobile 307 Engines
BY 252 V6 cars
AA Cadillac
AP Cadillac
@@wrenchingwithphil Thanks for the response was wondering how much wobble there is on the output shaft the T 400 had none as the main shaft went straight through this tail shaft moves a bit more than I am used to do the use the driveshaft yoke to center it ?
Phil, I just bought a 200-4r from a Monte Carlo SS, I want to rebuild it and put it in my LS swapped Chevelle. Do you have a comprehensive list of components you used to build your tranny? Thanks, subbed
Hi Phil, would a CH code 200-4r work behind a stock 327 engine in a 68 Camaro and what kind of upgrades would I need to it? Or is better to look for different core with one of the performance codes?
Hi, where’s the filter? The pan was removed and no filter?
lol... I don't recall as it's been a while but I would guess that was 'take 2 or 3 or..'
Obviously don't run without a filter...🤙
is a CRF 2004-r any good online says came from V8 Monte Carlo LG4 not a high output 5.0 , i have a run of the mill roller 305 motor from a camaro installed in monte carlo and just want to daily drive the car nothing performance about it is it any good
Thanks for watching and Absolutely! It's a run of the mill 200-4r non high performance one as you wrote and will be fine for your run of the mill 305 motor daily driver. Being on the highway in overdrive is likely the biggest benefit for you... rebuild it as stock with a shift kit and no need for most all the mods I show as they're likely overkill for your needs.
Good luck with your build!
Just sub to your channel great video man i have a 79 z28 n i belive they replace the transmission at some point so now im trying to learn as i go lol keep posting very helpful 👊🏻
Thanks for watching! I used to have a 77 camaro back in the day... not a z but fun anyway 😎
So seems my trans is an 84 Olds for a 307 is it worth building I am looking for a good street trans for a 72 GP 455 400HP looks like a lot of hard parts need upgrading thanks Phil.
sure... why not!! Shift points might be a little lower than ideal but if you're not going to the racetrack then no worries!
Can I use the 200 4r for 1992 Buick roadmaster ?? 350 / 5.7 engine
Why not rebuild what it came with?
@@wrenchingwithphil4l60 is trash
@@bigtsmotorizedbikes4242 Agreed... but I'm heavily biased to the 2004r lol 🏎😎🤙
I've built th350/th400 but never a GN 2004R i have a BRF with PATC 2800 stall convertor ...
BRF is the king of the 200-4r for sure!!!!! U lucky to have the Grand National as well... must be a fun ride
Hey Phil, by chance are you in California?
Hi David... nope I'm on the other coast in NY. What did you need?
@@wrenchingwithphil Thanks for getting back to me. I have a Olds 455 built 600hp/680 Tq
I want to run a 2004r but want it to last.
I found a gentleman by the name of Art Karr in Huntington Beach who has a good reputation. He provided me a parts list and I was wondering if you’d be able to review for me and make any suggestions
@@davidh4969 Sure, post away. **Just know that I'm a shmo not a pro** lol.
I built the 2004r for my 66 Chevelle seen in the beginning of part 3 of this 2004r rebuild video series. It's lived about 9 years behind a sbc 383 stroker ( I also built that engine:-) ) with a mini 174 blower that is similar spec but a bit less torque to your Olds engine.
The 2004r I'm building in this youtube series is going to live behind a bbc with an 871 blower so a few more billet/rollerized parts than my Chevelle previous build and maybe more than you need for yours.
When building my 66 Chevelle 2004r I used (and you should consider using as well... **but remember I'm not a pro just a shmo**):
shift recalibration kit
bigger servo
billet forward drum
billet input shaft
heat treated pump stator shaft
heat treated sun gear shell
wide intermediate band
hardened pump vane rings (stock 7 vane rotor or change to 10 NOT 13)
Deep oil pan
700r4 filter
higher stall torque converter(lock up since street car)
dual feed direct clutch
extra 4th gear clutch
Just for reference, in this video series I'll show installation of all the above plus some rollerized parts, billet overdrive carrier, billet overdrive ring gear as well a bunch of internal mods and special setup like modifying tolerances to make them 'just right', blueprinting the oil pump, etc and some basic 'upgrades' like enlarging the pump oil return holes, etc
@@wrenchingwithphil this is all very helpful. Thank you Phil,
@@davidh4969 Your b=going to need a billet forward drum those a very expensive like 500 bucks but that should hold up to your 455 Old's
I highly recommend NOT getting parts from CK performance. I ordered the pro street kit and sent in my parts for modification 4 months ago. I was quoted 2 weeks at that time, and I finally got a human on the phone today (after many tries) and they now say sometime next year but nothing more precise. I may have to sue them to get my parts back. Terrible service.
ugh that's not cool Thomas😞
Hopefully it works out for you in the end!