I totally agree with you. I have a full size Rock Island 45 acp 1911. I've put several thousand rounds through it. I bought better magazines for it. The only other issue was the tab on the grip safety that connects with the trigger bow broke off so I replaced it with a Wilson Combat drop-in grip safety. The price of the gun is low enough that I don't hesitate to try my hand at gunsmithing on it. But with all the customizing parts I've bought for it I could have bought a more expensivep1911. Still it has been a lot of fun and I've learned a great deal.
Lol. When I worked in bicycle shops, and had to explain the difference between a $180 bicycle and a bicycle with a $180 brake set, my answer was about the same as yours. The materials which they are made with,, and the precision they are made with. AKA...... time and materials.
I very seldom have commented on a video ever, This was very well presented. An excellent presentation on the 1911. It earned a subscription. Everyone new to 1911 world could benefit from this.
I remember Bockbuster well. My guns never went off when armed and I do remember when they did go off they usually ignored it. As for 1911's I tend to go in the middle. Kimber and Springfield Armory. I have a SA i dumped aftermarket barrels and parts in that makes it smooth as hell but honestly my regular GI Auto Ordinance shoots well enough. I would never pay over a thousand for a handgun. That's just me. I do know Rock Island has been making 1911's since WW11 and they even made them for Colt.
1911’s, the first pistol I started carrying as an EDC from the day it was legal. Gone back and forth from 5” to 4” and now 4.25”. All great reliable pistols
Thanks for the straightforward and humble presentation. I found it informative with levity to boot. As an enthusiast, I’m watching other channels begin to devolve into opinions or fanboys. Not sure if that’s nature of the beast or simply human nature. Keep it up👍
Love 1911s also hunter have many (some custom) even have the same gun i saved my life with in Vietnam. My new favorite is a colt classic not expensive and shoots great. You are so correct (im a metallurgist) MIM parts are gettin better all the time.
Now that was a very simple and informative explanation on why they cost what they cost. And I love the option of buying the RIA and replacing parts over time. Great video!
Great Video! I took a Mil-Spec Springfield Armory 1911 and Build Up with ALL TOOL STEEL STI Parts, Smith and Alexander .220 Grip Safety that I hand fitted with files NO Power tools and that Sucker is Really Tight against the Frame almost NO Gap and Works Great then I put a Match Grade Barrel the Pistol is a Tack Driver. The Mil-Spec build was part of my Rehab after a getting hurt in the Military and it took me almost 2 years to finish the pistol. A couples of years later I was able to pick up one of the First Sig Sauer TacOps 1911 5 inch which my serial number after doing some research and talking to someone I know at Sig Sauer Academy it turn out that there were about 50 TacOps that were build like the Blackwater 1911 with the Same Tool Steel Parts but did not get the Grips or the Claw laser print on the slide. My TacOps rivals my Springfield Professional which is a Custom Shop Pistol and Cost 3 times as Much.
I liked the video, and I truly appreciate your candor when it comes to reviewing a firearm. The truth of the matter as you stated is that either of these firearms will get the job done when it comes to personal protection. My most expensive 1911 retails for around $2,800 and most inexpensive 1911 cost $570 used. I will be 72 at the end of the month, and I shot either pistol about the same. As one gets older, his/her eye sight becomes a problem for most shooters and regardless of the cost of one’s firearms he/she shoots them about the same as it relates to accuracy. I purchased the higher priced 1911 when I turned 70 years of age simply since I thought that it would make a good birthday present. My favorite 1911 in my collection of handguns is a Dan Wesson Valor (9mm / 4.25 inch barrel). All but one of my 1911s are 9mm; however, my Nighthawk Global Response Pistol (GRP) is a 45 acp. I encourage individuals to purchase either a Commander size 1911 (4 to 4.25 inch barrel) or a Government Model (5 inch barrel) unless they are willing to spend a significant amount of time on the range determining which carry round (i.e., hollow point) that their Officer Model (3 inch barrel) will fire reliably. For many years my every day carry pistol was either a Springfield EMP 9mm (3 inch barrel) or a Kimber Aegis Elite Ultra (3 inch barrel). I found the best carry round for both of these pistols to be either Federal Premium HST 124 Grain or Speer Gold Dot 124 Grain. Both of these pistols have a ramped barrel. The only 9mm with a 3 inch barrel which I have had a problem was a Colt Defender which did not have a ramped barrel. Regardless of the manufacture of ammo, the Colt Defender would not fire hollow point ammo reliably. However, I never had a problem firing full metal jacket (FMJ) ammo in the Colt Defender. I have a friend who routinely carries a Colt Defender (Officer Model / 3 inch barrel) in 45 acp and he has never had a problem firing hollow point ammo. I have not seen all of the videos posted by rangehot.com; however, I am almost sure that he has pointed out that the 1911 was originally designed with a 5 inch barrel in 45 acp and any other barrel length and/or caliber can pose problems when firing a 1911 due to length of cartridge and angle of barrel ramp. The 45 acp 1911 was not designed with a ramped barrel since it was an all steel pistol and designed to fire reliably without a ramped barrel. Sometimes I carry a Glock 30S (45 acp) and this pistol along with a variety of other striker fired pistols in this caliber use a ramped barrel. Otherwise, the 45 acp round and/or other calibers would not chamber reliably in these firearms.
Speaking of EGW sears, I just had one put in my Springfield Range Officer to replace the stock MIM sear. The difference in trigger pull is night and day.
Sprucing it up is precisely what I did. I have a GI model Rock Island and I put in a new barrel bushing, trigger, slide stop, hammer, and grip safety. All stainless Wilson Combat furniture. I also slapped some gator leather grips on it because I'm a Louisiana boy.
A decent starter gun to get someone started on the platform is a good thing. Also if someone is inclined to learn and take their time it is a good thing to change parts and fit things yourself. Not everyone wants to or has the ability/will to do that. I like working on my guns. The beautiful expensive guns are beautiful and expensive for the reasons you state here. I love the 1911 and am at a crossroads where I want to buy a nicer one than the one I have, but HUGE cash. I am thinking of getting a Tisas and then swap what I don't like if needed. Great review. Thank you for filming and sharing.
@@darrellbounds9919 He was comparing Nicely finished, expensive guns, and less expensive guns, mentioning that a less expensive one is a good starting point for building your own by adding parts. That is what my comment is referring to. My first 1911 was under $300 and got me started using and shooting A 1911 for the first time. I recently upgraded some parts myself. That is the idea of my "starter" comment.
I started with my grandfathers Remington Rand, then picked up Springfield Milspec that I tinkered on. Now I'm breaking in my Dan Wesson Specialist Commander. I need to run the next batch of 50 through it this week. I kind of wish I had gone for the fullsl size but I still love it.
Excellent pathway to the 1911. The Commander Specialist is a fine looking pistol. I did not care so much between them but a full-size test sample came up first so I went with that.
A friend of mine has a Dan Wesson revolver and it's a cursed gun, he tried everything to make it run and nothing works. On the other hand I can't say I heard of any RIA handgun going completely wrong. Glitches or easy to fix issues, sure, but most work OK straight from the box, they may not be the most inspired gunmakers, but if you want something good enough for a decent price RIA is pretty hard to beat.
I've got three 1911's I carry at work, they are: Colt series 70 built by John Harrison Colt series 70 built by Steve Morrison (MARS Armament) Wilson Combat Experior All 5 inch, all steel, .45acp
I purchased my first 1911 last year. It's a RIA and it came with Extended beavertail with a safety bump ,G10 grips ,skeletonizes hammer and trigger ,and it is ceracoated in OD Green. Not bad for $700. I was told to expect a 500 round break in. It's been through about 1500 rounds of the cheapest ammo I can find without issue. In all fairness it s ball ammo and that is what the platform was designed to shoot. Not saying RIA is any better or worse. I just think it's a good buy. The magazine it came with works. I bought 8 Mec-Gar mags that all run with out issue for around $30 each. If shooting is a recreational activity and not a profession or not your not a competitive shooter ,RIA are a good option.
Something could be worth the extra cost and still not be necessary depending on one's needs. I'm all for owning the best you can afford, but at the end of the day, one should get what they need first, then what they want later. Great video.
It's the difference between a Ram 2500 ST and a 2500 Laramie Longhorn. Same basic appearance and components, but one is economical and the other is optioned out. Which one is right for you? Depends on your budget, intended use, and wants. Either will get you to town. Good review!
Have ran the the entire range from inexpensive to expensive. They all shoot great. Though I will say my Les Baer Mama Bear ($2500) with some slight customization shoots the lights out when compared to my Wilson Combat, Nighthawk and other expensive guns. With that said I have a Girsan G.I. FS ($400), my least expensive, that I would not ever get rid of.
You speak the truth... I come from the loins of a "Custom 1911 Pistolsmith" and Commercial Pilot, Dads philosophy was get a quality 1911, put a good set of sights on it and a trigger job. Take the rest of your money and buy ammunition...when you get as good as you can with that firearm then upgrade accordingly! "The world according to Frank", as my Dad even when he was wrong...HE WAS RIGHT ';-)
I’ve got a Springfield with a lot of MIM in it. Replaced the firing pin stop the first year or so because the factory part fit poorly. Put a Wilson extractor in at that time because the hook looked beefier. After about 12,000 rounds I’ve replaced the slide stop with another stock part part; it wasn’t locking back consistently.. I don’t think you get the longevity out of MIM parts. Most people will never shoot that much, so it’s fine for lost.
I could of bought 2 RIA for what I paid for my DW ECO but I'm very pleased with my DW and it was my first 1911. But definetly not my last, the specialist in 10mm is on my radar.
Great video, I have a 1975 Colt 1911 Combat Commander that shoots flawlessly. Never any malfunctioning occurs even when trying to make it malfunction. I'll take my 1911 all day long over any Glock out there. Love shooting my 1980 Dan Wesson .357magnum revolver as well. The bluing still shines and doesn't look cheap like today's blued finishes.
Dangitman....bringing back some great memories with Blockbuster Video....fun times. Great video, too. I wish folks would watch this prior to going into a gun store on a shopping trip. Shame there aren't more DW pistolas on the store shelves, too.
@@rangehot It was all good, brother. I remember BB video well. Many a cheap date was launched by a trip there...pick out a movie and hopefully never watch it until a day later, lol. 1911's are the ultimate carry guns....in my opinion much safer than other types of semi-autos....especially on the draw. People are so dang impatient and won't take the time to learn their gun....and as you said...get some training..
SA 1911A1 Mil-Spec all day long for my EDC. Everything I need and nothing I don't. On another note...nice shirt. I am a Texas Whataburger lover but INO is got dang good too!
Awesome presentation! Straight forward and to the point. I'm an ex Chicago Police Officer who only carried my 9MM S&W service revolver. Now it's time to step into modern times and purchase a Dan Wesson. Your video has helped me decide what I'll get for the extra dough. It was between it or the Springfield Armory TRP 1911. Be well and stay blessed!!! Peace and love.
@@rangehot you're very welcome. I had a blast! Times were different when I left in 2004 to pursue business opportunities. I've forwarded your content to many others who now also value your opinion! ✌
Nice presentation! I always recommend to those getting into 1911's to begin with something like a Springfield Armory mil spec. Learn the fundamentals of the design, get plenty of practice. And ultimately decide if the 1911 is the best route to take. Then if yes, further on down the road, consider a top tier manufacturer.
Great video and all solid points. I have a question that I’m sure Dan Wesson owners are wanting to know. When is Dan Wesson going to stop making hammers that rust no matter what you do? If it’s not black from the factory, then it’s just a matter of time before your hammer starts rusting.
Love your video brother and your humor I love 1911's oh, I fell in love with the 45 when I used to watch Starsky and Hutch back in the seventies and the AR-15 when I used to watch SWAT back in the 70s to this day those are my two favorite platforms and I own both of them and I own a Kimber pro eclipse 2
In a sea of BS out there on YT this is an honest review. Man hours make those guns expensive, and you nailed it. Fit and finish takes time and skill. The thing im finding is a pain in recent years are all the MIM parts that tend to have bad breaks(catastrophic) vs original steel parts that used to crack and could often be identified before the catastrophic failure during cleaning and inspection. It seems like more companies are going to MIM to save money unfortunately.
Just remember you get what you pay for... MIM parts is ones of those quirky things.. It may last thousands of rounds or it may break on you on the first range sesion. I can say S&W MIM parts are outstanding. Theres police agencies that shoot there S&W MIM part guns to hell and back and they keep going!
I'm using 1911 Israeli Bul Armory .45 ACP. Its a EDC full size. It's as close to a custom pistol that you can buy. I paid around 1k. They have more expensive ones. Mine shoots better than I do.
Fantastic presentation brother. Still honest folks out there . New to the platform, can I assume that you recommend EGW for parts ? I purchased two Wilson 47d for the ria and noticed they sell tool steal parts. Any suggestions on which parts would be good? Want to take the ambidextrous safety for the left side only (the left hand (right side) safety broke. Gun still functions and is safe but I traded for it knowing it was broke. Besides that maybe a extractor and new springs. (Wolf spring?)s. Thanks again subscribed!
Still saving up for my Dan Wesson Pointman Cco. Made the mistake of buying a standard Kimber custom 5 inch, as early middle ground... ended up replacing all the plastic and aluminum and gutting their extra safeties, but was a learning experience. To say the least.
rangehot.com I got the Kimber when it was marked down from the Colt I wanted (only 600). I then spent the money saved however on ed brown/Wilson parts... So I get yah 100%.
I have 2 RIA 1911's and love them. That is....before the boating accident. If I shot competitively, I'd either change out a few parts or start out with a higher end pistol.
By today's standard, the 1911 is not for the new gun owner...think striker fire. Now, do not misunderstand. A new gun owner can purchase a 1911 and begin training, but let's face it, most people carrying handguns do not train. I began carrying a 1911 (Colt) in 45 ACP in 1978 as a police officer. In the agency I worked, officers had to carry a revolver the first year. After the first year, we could strap on semi-automatics, which commonly were 1911s and Browning High Power. I own three 1911s, not a large collection but all I need. All three (two 5" and one 4"). One of those 5" is a Rock Island bi-tone. Initially it had failure to feeds too often to consider it reliable. I contacted Rock Island and they sent me a return shipping label. On their lifetime warranty, they replaced the firing pin spring, a new better fit firing pin block, recoil spring, and polished the ramp. That was many years ago...the handgun has never had one hiccup since with thousands of rounds passing through it.
Philipino’s worship JMB so I have zero problems with a Rock or ATI. But I’m going to open my own gun store in two years. Even if the mark up isn’t huge with wholesale to MSRP I’m still going to own 2-3 Dan Wessons. I need a TCP, a 4.25” Specialist and maybe a Titan.
@@rangehot will do. And you still need to swing up to Connecticut sometime. You said you had friends up here. Well, I’m one of them 🤪. So give me a head’s up whenever you decide to head north for a short spell. 🍕 is on me!
A tisas duty cought my eye in dunhams sports in Ashland Ky other day and I’m no cheap 1911 fan but this one I’d like to try…see what you can do bout gettin one ol buddie and show us..don’t be a stranger..I see you boys doin some my kinda work n residential climbin n riggin…hit a rope in my big maple last wk and safe to say I’m outta shape…pullin triggers and smearin glue n cleaner don’t work many muscles…plumbin has bout ruined me
Hunter, you picked two firearm brands I own and shoot. My Dan Wesson Pointman-9 is flawless still with 5K-plus rounds. One RIA in particular has been a problem since Day 2. Day one with the Rock Ultra 10mm High Cap went okay, but on Day 2 the plunger tube fell off the firearm. During my examination, I noticed the inside surface of the frame was coated with moderately heavy rust. RIA replaced it with another firearm, which has been plagued by failure to feed issues for over two years now and I don't think I am alone. (It does run Underwood reliably and strangely Blazer aluminum case). However, just last week, I disassembled the clean firearm and re-oiled it heavily before going to the range. It ran Remington, Armscor and Sig Sauer 100% for the first time ever, but did balk twice with Sellier&Bellot. It started me wondering about the steel in the frame and slide, have any opinions?
I have limited experience with RIA only reviewing two and shot a few more than friends owned. Of those they were fine but I do hear about a lot of issues. I have to wonder what kind of steel RIA uses. I know the receiver is cast but I heard the slide was forged. What alloy they use I have no idea.
I purchased a Remington R1 1911 in The Lord's caliber 45ACP, back in 2015. She's my EDC and has fired 3000rds of Federal and 5000rds of hot hand loads. She hasn't had one hiccup and she doesn't shake or rattle. I bet my life on her everyday. God Bless America! Long Live the Republic!
You found the only good one I’ll say…haven’t seen any good on the rems and wanted them to because back in the day para ordinance was something and rem bought them so I was disappointed
How do you carry it. I mean, what kind of holster, belt and pants. I’ve found that the heavier guns don’t work with jeans the weight constantly pulls my pants down. Maybe it’s my skinny ass. I don’t know. I can carry a heavier gun but I have to wear tactical pants. Not a good option for me on an everyday basis.
I have bought 2 EAA Girsan MC1911 45 acps , which one cost me $349 and the other $449 and right out of the box was amazed at the performance and was comparing it side by side with my fathers $1400 Kimber and I will tell you this if they both cost the same amount and was able to shoot them before I bought them it would be a tough choice
It is tough to say what RIA would use in a premium model but if they use similar materials as Dan Wesson they price point would increase exponentially.
@@rangehot exactly if the pro model is coming at 1000$ then it must have something than the other model might not have. Idk what sets that price point?
@@keven1101 The cost of materials such as steel over MIM is a large factor in costs, as well as hands on time spent on the gun and they type and quality of the finish. It is for more costly to buy steel parts that require some hand fitting than dropping in a MIM part that fits "close enough".
Man if you put a little money into a lower end $500 to $700 they shoot as good as the experience ones plus in a combat situation the less expensive gun has a better chance of not malfunction due to dirt and grim if something gets in it because of the tight tolerances on the experience ones
IMO , purchase a reasonable quality 1911, install a set of sights that suit you and practice , practice and practice until you become proficient. 1911s don't have to cost big money to be accurate and reliable, the most important component is YOU.
For those who want the dan wesson or other higher end models, just do what i do to afford them. Have 25 bucks extra taken out in taxes each week. When you file your taxes, youll get that money back. Which is an extra 1300 bucks more than you were getting back. Its like a saving account that you cant touch. I get per diem with my job now, so im having 100 taken out each week this year. So next year, baring stupid ass gun control, im getting something custom :)
I remember going in on a Friday night to pick out movies for the weekend looking over the thousands there. Now with all the streaming, there is only a handful of movies worth watching.
several issues 1. that is your opinion in regards to longevity... If you ever have an issue with your RIA gun for the life of the gun, they will fix it
There is no real advantage being that 1911's are built around the bullet. Most makers of 1911's use modern CNC machining so it's very hard to not design the gun and the parts so they function as they should and for parts to be somewhat interchangeable between makers. I have a Springfield Armory loaded model in stainless steel & I also have a 1911 in blue steel loaded model by Tisas. Both guns shoot what I feed them, both have GI guide rods and plugs, both have 5-inch barrels. Despite the cost both shoot 100% with the Springfield costing $1100 bucks and the Tisas costing $550. I have replaced a few parts that are stainless steel by Wilson Combat such as the magazine catch, slide stop, and the recoil guide rod and plug.
It was the first Colt I bought when I turned 21 and carried it for years. I had to have the slide refinished due to wear and retired it some years later.
Bro, I can buy two Rock Islands and all the parts for the price of that Dan Brown. If your shooting 1000s of rounds competitively yes, if not... its not that big of a deal. Its hip jewelry lol jk! Trigger pull boom... everyone way over thinks this stuff lol! Great video tho!
I totally agree with you. I have a full size Rock Island 45 acp 1911. I've put several thousand rounds through it. I bought better magazines for it. The only other issue was the tab on the grip safety that connects with the trigger bow broke off so I replaced it with a Wilson Combat drop-in grip safety. The price of the gun is low enough that I don't hesitate to try my hand at gunsmithing on it. But with all the customizing parts I've bought for it I could have bought a more expensivep1911. Still it has been a lot of fun and I've learned a great deal.
Excellent presentation! Love the humor you put in it too. Semper Fi!
Thank you very much. Semper Fi Devil Dog.
Lol. When I worked in bicycle shops, and had to explain the difference between a $180 bicycle and a bicycle with a $180 brake set, my answer was about the same as yours. The materials which they are made with,, and the precision they are made with. AKA...... time and materials.
Time and materials, that is what it boils down to.
I very seldom have commented on a video ever, This was very well presented. An excellent presentation on the 1911. It earned a subscription. Everyone new to 1911 world could benefit from this.
Thank you very much. I appreciate your kind words. Welcome aboard.
I like the extended dust cover on the Rock Island, reminds me of the Coonan.357 1911.
I remember Bockbuster well. My guns never went off when armed and I do remember when they did go off they usually ignored it. As for 1911's I tend to go in the middle. Kimber and Springfield Armory. I have a SA i dumped aftermarket barrels and parts in that makes it smooth as hell but honestly my regular GI Auto Ordinance shoots well enough. I would never pay over a thousand for a handgun. That's just me. I do know Rock Island has been making 1911's since WW11 and they even made them for Colt.
1911’s, the first pistol I started carrying as an EDC from the day it was legal.
Gone back and forth from 5” to 4” and now 4.25”.
All great reliable pistols
Thanks for the straightforward and humble presentation. I found it informative with levity to boot. As an enthusiast, I’m watching other channels begin to devolve into opinions or fanboys. Not sure if that’s nature of the beast or simply human nature. Keep it up👍
Thank you very much my friend.
Love 1911s also hunter have many (some custom) even have the same gun i saved my life with in Vietnam. My new favorite is a colt classic not expensive and shoots great. You are so correct (im a metallurgist) MIM parts are gettin better all the time.
Now that was a very simple and informative explanation on why they cost what they cost. And I love the option of buying the RIA and replacing parts over time. Great video!
Thank you very much Mike, I appreciate your kind words sir.
Great Video! I took a Mil-Spec Springfield Armory 1911 and Build Up with ALL TOOL STEEL STI Parts, Smith and Alexander .220 Grip Safety that I hand fitted with files NO Power tools and that Sucker is Really Tight against the Frame almost NO Gap and Works Great then I put a Match Grade Barrel the Pistol is a Tack Driver. The Mil-Spec build was part of my Rehab after a getting hurt in the Military and it took me almost 2 years to finish the pistol. A couples of years later I was able to pick up one of the First Sig Sauer TacOps 1911 5 inch which my serial number after doing some research and talking to someone I know at Sig Sauer Academy it turn out that there were about 50 TacOps that were build like the Blackwater 1911 with the Same Tool Steel Parts but did not get the Grips or the Claw laser print on the slide. My TacOps rivals my Springfield Professional which is a Custom Shop Pistol and Cost 3 times as Much.
I liked the video, and I truly appreciate your candor when it comes to reviewing a firearm. The truth of the matter as you stated is that either of these firearms will get the job done when it comes to personal protection. My most expensive 1911 retails for around $2,800 and most inexpensive 1911 cost $570 used. I will be 72 at the end of the month, and I shot either pistol about the same. As one gets older, his/her eye sight becomes a problem for most shooters and regardless of the cost of one’s firearms he/she shoots them about the same as it relates to accuracy. I purchased the higher priced 1911 when I turned 70 years of age simply since I thought that it would make a good birthday present. My favorite 1911 in my collection of handguns is a Dan Wesson Valor (9mm / 4.25 inch barrel). All but one of my 1911s are 9mm; however, my Nighthawk Global Response Pistol (GRP) is a 45 acp. I encourage individuals to purchase either a Commander size 1911 (4 to 4.25 inch barrel) or a Government Model (5 inch barrel) unless they are willing to spend a significant amount of time on the range determining which carry round (i.e., hollow point) that their Officer Model (3 inch barrel) will fire reliably. For many years my every day carry pistol was either a Springfield EMP 9mm (3 inch barrel) or a Kimber Aegis Elite Ultra (3 inch barrel). I found the best carry round for both of these pistols to be either Federal Premium HST 124 Grain or Speer Gold Dot 124 Grain. Both of these pistols have a ramped barrel. The only 9mm with a 3 inch barrel which I have had a problem was a Colt Defender which did not have a ramped barrel. Regardless of the manufacture of ammo, the Colt Defender would not fire hollow point ammo reliably. However, I never had a problem firing full metal jacket (FMJ) ammo in the Colt Defender. I have a friend who routinely carries a Colt Defender (Officer Model / 3 inch barrel) in 45 acp and he has never had a problem firing hollow point ammo. I have not seen all of the videos posted by rangehot.com; however, I am almost sure that he has pointed out that the 1911 was originally designed with a 5 inch barrel in 45 acp and any other barrel length and/or caliber can pose problems when firing a 1911 due to length of cartridge and angle of barrel ramp. The 45 acp 1911 was not designed with a ramped barrel since it was an all steel pistol and designed to fire reliably without a ramped barrel. Sometimes I carry a Glock 30S (45 acp) and this pistol along with a variety of other striker fired pistols in this caliber use a ramped barrel. Otherwise, the 45 acp round and/or other calibers would not chamber reliably in these firearms.
Good review Hunter. I being a Colt DE owner with 10- extra mags been running them in my RIA which works fine.
Thank you Pat. Colt uses the Check-Mate magazines and they are my favorite.
I thought I was crazy! Started putting Wilson combat parts on my RIA, turns out I’m building my mustang peices by peices! Lol good vid
Speaking of EGW sears, I just had one put in my Springfield Range Officer to replace the stock MIM sear. The difference in trigger pull is night and day.
Sprucing it up is precisely what I did. I have a GI model Rock Island and I put in a new barrel bushing, trigger, slide stop, hammer, and grip safety. All stainless Wilson Combat furniture. I also slapped some gator leather grips on it because I'm a Louisiana boy.
Shoulda just bought a Wilson
Les Baer so plain Jane with the ugliest grips you can find. Hmmm 🤔
A decent starter gun to get someone started on the platform is a good thing. Also if someone is inclined to learn and take their time it is a good thing to change parts and fit things yourself. Not everyone wants to or has the ability/will to do that. I like working on my guns. The beautiful expensive guns are beautiful and expensive for the reasons you state here. I love the 1911 and am at a crossroads where I want to buy a nicer one than the one I have, but HUGE cash. I am thinking of getting a Tisas and then swap what I don't like if needed. Great review. Thank you for filming and sharing.
A 1911 is not a dam starter gun a b.b gun is
@@darrellbounds9919 He was comparing Nicely finished, expensive guns, and less expensive guns, mentioning that a less expensive one is a good starting point for building your own by adding parts. That is what my comment is referring to. My first 1911 was under $300 and got me started using and shooting A 1911 for the first time. I recently upgraded some parts myself. That is the idea of my "starter" comment.
Excellent video. Very objective and informative! Thank you.
@@Chip-og1yx you are very welcome. Please consider subscribing and sticking around.
Thank you for this video. It answers a lot of M1911 questions for me. I'm really enjoying your videos.
You are very welcome Ed.
I’m new to the 1911 platform. I got a the RIA ultra ms. For a price I couldn’t pass up. Thank your for thoughts great video!!!
There is nothing wrong with the RIA firearms.
I started with my grandfathers Remington Rand, then picked up Springfield Milspec that I tinkered on. Now I'm breaking in my Dan Wesson Specialist Commander. I need to run the next batch of 50 through it this week. I kind of wish I had gone for the fullsl size but I still love it.
Excellent pathway to the 1911. The Commander Specialist is a fine looking pistol. I did not care so much between them but a full-size test sample came up first so I went with that.
Rangehot is still hot about his 1996 Blockbuster Video experience. He doesn't hold a grudge!! Love my Dan Wesson Specialist!!! The perfect 1911.
You know how it is brother. You are spot on about the Specialist.
@@rangehot the problem is there are so few Dan Wessons out there. Options are limited given decreased production this year.
@@tberkoff yea and I am pretty pissed off about that. I have spoken to my friends at CZ and this Covid mess has really hurt CZ and Dan Wesson.
I have a ATI 1911 GI Commander that came with a crappy mag so I purchased a Wilson Combat mag and it feeds without any problems .
A friend of mine has a Dan Wesson revolver and it's a cursed gun, he tried everything to make it run and nothing works. On the other hand I can't say I heard of any RIA handgun going completely wrong. Glitches or easy to fix issues, sure, but most work OK straight from the box, they may not be the most inspired gunmakers, but if you want something good enough for a decent price RIA is pretty hard to beat.
I just bought a Rock island armory 1911 10mm and I love it!! No failures and several different ammos and everything functioned perfectly!!
Excellent
I've got three 1911's I carry at work, they are:
Colt series 70 built by John Harrison
Colt series 70 built by Steve Morrison (MARS Armament)
Wilson Combat Experior
All 5 inch, all steel, .45acp
I purchased my first 1911 last year. It's a RIA and it came with Extended beavertail with a safety bump ,G10 grips ,skeletonizes hammer and trigger ,and it is ceracoated in OD Green.
Not bad for $700.
I was told to expect a 500 round break in. It's been through about 1500 rounds of the cheapest ammo I can find without issue. In all fairness it s ball ammo and that is what the platform was designed to shoot.
Not saying RIA is any better or worse. I just think it's a good buy.
The magazine it came with works. I bought 8 Mec-Gar mags that all run with out issue for around $30 each.
If shooting is a recreational activity and not a profession or not your not a competitive shooter ,RIA are a good option.
I got the same one. You still got it? Are you putting hollow point in it? Any problems? Thanks
Both excellent 1911 I have a Rock Island and functions with no problems thanks for sharing
The RIA may work for me, I’m looking for a cheap 1911 platform to tinker with, pull apart and learn more about. Thanks for sharing.
You explained this extremely well!
Thank you very much.
Good video. The blockbuster story took me back to my childhood.
Something could be worth the extra cost and still not be necessary depending on one's needs. I'm all for owning the best you can afford, but at the end of the day, one should get what they need first, then what they want later. Great video.
Thank you very much. I agree with you. Everyone has their own opinion of the law of diminishing returns. Function over form.
@@rangehot Exactly brother!
It's the difference between a Ram 2500 ST and a 2500 Laramie Longhorn. Same basic appearance and components, but one is economical and the other is optioned out. Which one is right for you? Depends on your budget, intended use, and wants. Either will get you to town.
Good review!
Josiah, that is an excellent analogy.
Have ran the the entire range from inexpensive to expensive. They all shoot great. Though I will say my Les Baer Mama Bear ($2500) with some slight customization shoots the lights out when compared to my Wilson Combat, Nighthawk and other expensive guns. With that said I have a Girsan G.I. FS ($400), my least expensive, that I would not ever get rid of.
Two Springfield emissaries 45 and 9mm, 3 tisas bobtail Carry's, a stacatto, a girsan, and a bul armory, I love 1911s
You have the updated Specialist. Mine doesn’t have the front slide serrations. It’s still a freaking sweet pistol though. I’m wanting an ECP now.
Yeah. He's a genius. Great info even 3 years later. Thanks.
You are very welcome.
You speak the truth... I come from the loins of a "Custom 1911 Pistolsmith" and Commercial Pilot, Dads philosophy was get a quality 1911, put a good set of sights on it and a trigger job. Take the rest of your money and buy ammunition...when you get as good as you can with that firearm then upgrade accordingly! "The world according to Frank", as my Dad even when he was wrong...HE WAS RIGHT ';-)
Your father is a very wise man.
@@rangehot Thanks, He Surely Was...
great review. appreciate your candor and humor.
Thank you very much.
I’ve got a Springfield with a lot of MIM in it. Replaced the firing pin stop the first year or so because the factory part fit poorly. Put a Wilson extractor in at that time because the hook looked beefier. After about 12,000 rounds I’ve replaced the slide stop with another stock part part; it wasn’t locking back consistently.. I don’t think you get the longevity out of MIM parts. Most people will never shoot that much, so it’s fine for lost.
Excellent explanation, Hunter.
I could of bought 2 RIA for what I paid for my DW ECO but I'm very pleased with my DW and it was my first 1911. But definetly not my last, the specialist in 10mm is on my radar.
Great video, I have a 1975 Colt 1911 Combat Commander that shoots flawlessly. Never any malfunctioning occurs even when trying to make it malfunction. I'll take my 1911 all day long over any Glock out there. Love shooting my 1980 Dan Wesson .357magnum revolver as well. The bluing still shines and doesn't look cheap like today's blued finishes.
Thank you very much.
I don't know if I've told you but I like the way you talk.you sir are a wordsmith.
I do believe you have mentioned that and I really appreciate it. Thank you very.
Dangitman....bringing back some great memories with Blockbuster Video....fun times. Great video, too. I wish folks would watch this prior to going into a gun store on a shopping trip. Shame there aren't more DW pistolas on the store shelves, too.
I appreciate that, I had wondered if I rambled too much with that story.
@@rangehot It was all good, brother. I remember BB video well. Many a cheap date was launched by a trip there...pick out a movie and hopefully never watch it until a day later, lol. 1911's are the ultimate carry guns....in my opinion much safer than other types of semi-autos....especially on the draw.
People are so dang impatient and won't take the time to learn their gun....and as you said...get some training..
SA 1911A1 Mil-Spec all day long for my EDC. Everything I need and nothing I don't. On another note...nice shirt. I am a Texas Whataburger lover but INO is got dang good too!
Really good explanation on what makes a difference in price in 1911s.
Thank you Paul.
Awesome presentation! Straight forward and to the point. I'm an ex Chicago Police Officer who only carried my 9MM S&W service revolver. Now it's time to step into modern times and purchase a Dan Wesson. Your video has helped me decide what I'll get for the extra dough. It was between it or the Springfield Armory TRP 1911. Be well and stay blessed!!! Peace and love.
Thank you very much Jaleel and thank you for your service as a police officer.
@@rangehot you're very welcome. I had a blast! Times were different when I left in 2004 to pursue business opportunities. I've forwarded your content to many others who now also value your opinion! ✌
I am very thankful for helping spread the word, thank you.
I own a RIA 1911 ..I agree the magazines are just...ehhhh...
I replaced the mags using Wilson Combat, CM and Colt mags...
Good video great explanation on the difference on parts learned something today. Thanks
Thank you Jerry.
Nice presentation! I always recommend to those getting into 1911's to begin with something like a Springfield Armory mil spec. Learn the fundamentals of the design, get plenty of practice. And ultimately decide if the 1911 is the best route to take. Then if yes, further on down the road, consider a top tier manufacturer.
Great video and all solid points. I have a question that I’m sure Dan Wesson owners are wanting to know. When is Dan Wesson going to stop making hammers that rust no matter what you do? If it’s not black from the factory, then it’s just a matter of time before your hammer starts rusting.
That is a great question. I have not had any issues with the Specialist so far.
You have to keep your hammer lubed.😉
@@wizardofahhhs759 I did and so did others who had the same issue. They need to stop making their hammers out of whatever they are using.
Love your video brother and your humor I love 1911's oh, I fell in love with the 45 when I used to watch Starsky and Hutch back in the seventies and the AR-15 when I used to watch SWAT back in the 70s to this day those are my two favorite platforms and I own both of them and I own a Kimber pro eclipse 2
Thank you very much my friend. I love your screen name....epic.
This is what I've heard
RIA MIM parts:
slide stop
plunger tube
sear
disconnector
ejector
I appreciate the info.
Appreciate your great videos. I am a Dan Wesson fan, the Valor is my sidearm of choice.
You are very welcome.
In a sea of BS out there on YT this is an honest review. Man hours make those guns expensive, and you nailed it. Fit and finish takes time and skill. The thing im finding is a pain in recent years are all the MIM parts that tend to have bad breaks(catastrophic) vs original steel parts that used to crack and could often be identified before the catastrophic failure during cleaning and inspection. It seems like more companies are going to MIM to save money unfortunately.
You are spot on. When MIM is done right it is fine in many areas but it is impossible to tell if it was done right.
@@rangehot im no genius, just learn a lot the hard way
Just remember you get what you pay for... MIM parts is ones of those quirky things.. It may last thousands of rounds or it may break on you on the first range sesion. I can say S&W MIM parts are outstanding. Theres police agencies that shoot there S&W MIM part guns to hell and back and they keep going!
I'm using 1911 Israeli Bul Armory .45 ACP. Its a EDC full size. It's as close to a custom pistol that you can buy. I paid around 1k. They have more expensive ones. Mine shoots better than I do.
Fantastic presentation brother. Still honest folks out there . New to the platform, can I assume that you recommend EGW for parts ? I purchased two Wilson 47d for the ria and noticed they sell tool steal parts. Any suggestions on which parts would be good? Want to take the ambidextrous safety for the left side only (the left hand (right side) safety broke. Gun still functions and is safe but I traded for it knowing it was broke. Besides that maybe a extractor and new springs. (Wolf spring?)s. Thanks again subscribed!
Thank you Bo.
I really like EGW parts. I have been using their stuff for years and it has never let me down.
Just got my first 1911.
Para Executive Carry
Caliber: .45 ACP
Capacity: 8 + 1
Magazines: Two single-stack magazines with base bumpers
Barrel: 3-inch stainless ramped bull
Sights: Combat-style Trijicon
Frame: Aluminum
Slide: Stainless steel
Length: 7.685 inches
Height: 5.5 inches without the magazine
Weight: 30 ounces
Options: Crimson Trace compatible
VZ G10 Grips
Got it for $650.
Excellent deal. How do you like it?
@@rangehot love it but unfortunately haven’t had the chance to get to the range yet. Was gonna go today but it was closed due to the weather 😢
Just bought a Dan Wesson specialist today, love it, can’t wait to shoot it.
I am sure you will be well pleased.
Damn good review. Thank you.
I appreciate your kind words.
I went ahead and got a used norinco 1911 that shoots straight and works like a 1911 should. Haven’t had a problem yet
Not a fan of the Norincos. I know they are well built, it is more principle.
?.... My Rock Tac came with two mecgar mags and G10s.....maybe some production changes?
Those Mecgar mags suck.
The Dan Wesson Guardian is definitely on my list to buy . They make awesome guns. Great video. 👍🇺🇸
Thank you very much Joe. Good choice on the pistol.
Still saving up for my Dan Wesson Pointman Cco. Made the mistake of buying a standard Kimber custom 5 inch, as early middle ground... ended up replacing all the plastic and aluminum and gutting their extra safeties, but was a learning experience. To say the least.
Just to add in, I carry the sig 938 as a standard every day. It’s never missed a beat.
That is part of the experience of making the 1911 your own. It can get expensive adding and swapping parts on an already expensive pistol.
@@ImperceptibleX Sig makes a fine pistol.
rangehot.com I got the Kimber when it was marked down from the Colt I wanted (only 600). I then spent the money saved however on ed brown/Wilson parts... So I get yah 100%.
@@ImperceptibleX at least you used high quality parts. if you are going to do it that is the way to.
I have 2 RIA 1911's and love them. That is....before the boating accident. If I shot competitively, I'd either change out a few parts or start out with a higher end pistol.
Love my Ruger 1911s but man I probably looked at that Dan Wesson kodiak for months maybe I'll treat myself this Christmas lol.
Rixhard Ruger makes a find pistol. You will love the Kodiak. rangehot.com/dan-wesson-kodiak-handful-of-fury/
By today's standard, the 1911 is not for the new gun owner...think striker fire. Now, do not misunderstand. A new gun owner can purchase a 1911 and begin training, but let's face it, most people carrying handguns do not train.
I began carrying a 1911 (Colt) in 45 ACP in 1978 as a police officer. In the agency I worked, officers had to carry a revolver the first year. After the first year, we could strap on semi-automatics, which commonly were 1911s and Browning High Power.
I own three 1911s, not a large collection but all I need. All three (two 5" and one 4"). One of those 5" is a Rock Island bi-tone. Initially it had failure to feeds too often to consider it reliable. I contacted Rock Island and they sent me a return shipping label. On their lifetime warranty, they replaced the firing pin spring, a new better fit firing pin block, recoil spring, and polished the ramp. That was many years ago...the handgun has never had one hiccup since with thousands of rounds passing through it.
I have a DW Specialist on order. Watching your videos have helped me tremendously. Thank you so much, Sir!
You are going to love it. I bought the Specialist test gun from Dan Wesson after the review and it is still 100%.
Philipino’s worship JMB so I have zero problems with a Rock or ATI. But I’m going to open my own gun store in two years. Even if the mark up isn’t huge with wholesale to MSRP I’m still going to own 2-3 Dan Wessons. I need a TCP, a 4.25” Specialist and maybe a Titan.
If there is anything I can do to help man just let me know.
@@rangehot will do. And you still need to swing up to Connecticut sometime. You said you had friends up here. Well, I’m one of them 🤪. So give me a head’s up whenever you decide to head north for a short spell.
🍕 is on me!
Any info on Para 1911s ..all steel made in Canada..for Tennessee..i have one any short comings?
Para made fine pistols and I hate they went out.
"I wasn't stealing any videos that day" hahaha great video
A tisas duty cought my eye in dunhams sports in Ashland Ky other day and I’m no cheap 1911 fan but this one I’d like to try…see what you can do bout gettin one ol buddie and show us..don’t be a stranger..I see you boys doin some my kinda work n residential climbin n riggin…hit a rope in my big maple last wk and safe to say I’m outta shape…pullin triggers and smearin glue n cleaner don’t work many muscles…plumbin has bout ruined me
Hunter, you picked two firearm brands I own and shoot. My Dan Wesson Pointman-9 is flawless still with 5K-plus rounds. One RIA in particular has been a problem since Day 2. Day one with the Rock Ultra 10mm High Cap went okay, but on Day 2 the plunger tube fell off the firearm. During my examination, I noticed the inside surface of the frame was coated with moderately heavy rust. RIA replaced it with another firearm, which has been plagued by failure to feed issues for over two years now and I don't think I am alone. (It does run Underwood reliably and strangely Blazer aluminum case). However, just last week, I disassembled the clean firearm and re-oiled it heavily before going to the range. It ran Remington, Armscor and Sig Sauer 100% for the first time ever, but did balk twice with Sellier&Bellot. It started me wondering about the steel in the frame and slide, have any opinions?
I have limited experience with RIA only reviewing two and shot a few more than friends owned. Of those they were fine but I do hear about a lot of issues.
I have to wonder what kind of steel RIA uses. I know the receiver is cast but I heard the slide was forged. What alloy they use I have no idea.
I purchased a Remington R1 1911 in The Lord's caliber 45ACP, back in 2015. She's my EDC and has fired 3000rds of Federal and 5000rds of hot hand loads. She hasn't had one hiccup and she doesn't shake or rattle. I bet my life on her everyday. God Bless America! Long Live the Republic!
Those Remington R-1 are good.However, I bought a RIA.
I bought the Wilson Combat magazines and use them in my RIA. The RIA, magazines have done its job but the Wilson Combat mags are better.
You found the only good one I’ll say…haven’t seen any good on the rems and wanted them to because back in the day para ordinance was something and rem bought them so I was disappointed
Had a R1 and sold it & had to buy another one (reliable as hell) ! Also have a Ruger SR1911 lightweight commander !
How do you carry it. I mean, what kind of holster, belt and pants. I’ve found that the heavier guns don’t work with jeans the weight constantly pulls my pants down. Maybe it’s my skinny ass. I don’t know. I can carry a heavier gun but I have to wear tactical pants. Not a good option for me on an everyday basis.
Buy once cry once. Spend the money for the higher quality one and most of the time you won't be disappointed. Learned it a long time ago.
I put the blue vz’s on my ss and pack in a ttgunleather as u know..
I have bought 2 EAA Girsan MC1911 45 acps , which one cost me $349 and the other $449 and right out of the box was amazed at the performance and was comparing it side by side with my fathers $1400 Kimber and I will tell you this if they both cost the same amount and was able to shoot them before I bought them it would be a tough choice
If it were me I would pick a sharp stick over a kimber.
Great video I like Daw Wessons also. I have a Colt 1911 also and even between Colt and Dan Wesson you can tell a real difference.
Thank you very much Mark.
How about a review of the TISAS 1911 A2 ??
I don't know anyone there but I plan to inquire at the next trade show.
@@rangehot I have the 9mm version on layaway right now .. trying to research if I can get barrels and such to make it .45 and or 10mm ..
But what if rock island come out with a premium model does it mean it come with better internals? What about the pro model too?
It is tough to say what RIA would use in a premium model but if they use similar materials as Dan Wesson they price point would increase exponentially.
@@rangehot exactly if the pro model is coming at 1000$ then it must have something than the other model might not have. Idk what sets that price point?
@@keven1101 The cost of materials such as steel over MIM is a large factor in costs, as well as hands on time spent on the gun and they type and quality of the finish. It is for more costly to buy steel parts that require some hand fitting than dropping in a MIM part that fits "close enough".
There's like 3000 videos on this very topic going back more than a decade.
Well there is now 3001.
My favorite is the 1911 in 38super
It is one of my favorites as well.
Man if you put a little money into a lower end $500 to $700 they shoot as good as the experience ones plus in a combat situation the less expensive gun has a better chance of not malfunction due to dirt and grim if something gets in it because of the tight tolerances on the experience ones
Not all expensive guns run too tight. If you buy a cheap 1911 and do all the upgrades you would have more in it than the more expensive pistol.
I def want to pick up a specialist in 9mm !!! You think springfield will ever do a trp 9mm
It would surprise me if they did not with the popularity of the 9mm. I believe Dan Wesson sells more 1911s in 9mm than .45 Auto.
Upgrade to Sig or WIlson Combat mags and a Wilson Combat recoil spring and the RIA will run as good as any Dan Wesson or Kimber.
No. RIA has far inferior parts as compared to Dan Wesson.
IMO , purchase a reasonable quality 1911, install a set of sights that suit you and practice , practice and practice until you become proficient. 1911s don't have to cost big money to be accurate and reliable, the most important component is YOU.
By far the best gun review/comparison on UA-cam. Thank you.
Thank you Evren, I truly appreciate your kind words.
For those who want the dan wesson or other higher end models, just do what i do to afford them. Have 25 bucks extra taken out in taxes each week. When you file your taxes, youll get that money back. Which is an extra 1300 bucks more than you were getting back. Its like a saving account that you cant touch. I get per diem with my job now, so im having 100 taken out each week this year. So next year, baring stupid ass gun control, im getting something custom :)
Depends on your budget.
I like your style. New sub
I used to go Blockbuster in early 2000s used to love renting movies as kid
I remember going in on a Friday night to pick out movies for the weekend looking over the thousands there. Now with all the streaming, there is only a handful of movies worth watching.
several issues 1. that is your opinion in regards to longevity... If you ever have an issue with your RIA gun for the life of the gun, they will fix it
Yea but what if it breaks when you needed it the most? That warranty is worthless in your time if need.
There is no real advantage being that 1911's are built around the bullet. Most makers of 1911's use modern CNC machining so it's very hard to not design the gun and the parts so they function as they should and for parts to be somewhat interchangeable between makers. I have a Springfield Armory loaded model in stainless steel & I also have a 1911 in blue steel loaded model by Tisas. Both guns shoot what I feed them, both have GI guide rods and plugs, both have 5-inch barrels. Despite the cost both shoot 100% with the Springfield costing $1100 bucks and the Tisas costing $550.
I have replaced a few parts that are stainless steel by Wilson Combat such as the magazine catch, slide stop, and the recoil guide rod and plug.
Steel will hold up far better than MIM and cast.
my ria 10mm works fine and is scary accurate!
i can't believe you carried a combat elite. mine is a safe queen. i do want a dan wesson, however.
It was the first Colt I bought when I turned 21 and carried it for years. I had to have the slide refinished due to wear and retired it some years later.
The biggest problem folks make is that with expensive guns, when you go to trade a million you lose by far more money than an inexpensive handgun.
Nice presentation...
Thank you.
Bro, I can buy two Rock Islands and all the parts for the price of that Dan Brown. If your shooting 1000s of rounds competitively yes, if not... its not that big of a deal. Its hip jewelry lol jk! Trigger pull boom... everyone way over thinks this stuff lol! Great video tho!
In a pistol that I may have to depend my life on. I prefer to stack the deck in my favor as much as possible and truthfully skip the cheap 1911s.
Simple answer, you can get a cheap 1911 that works, but if you pay more its better.