Top 10 BEST (and worst) Sonic villains
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Sonic has a surprisingly vast roster of enemies beyond just Dr Robotnik. In this video, we'll be counting down the best and worst of the bunch!
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Sonic the Hedgehog[a] is a Japanese video game series and media franchise created by Sega. The franchise follows Sonic, an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog who battles the evil Doctor Eggman, a mad scientist. The main Sonic the Hedgehog games are platformers mostly developed by Sonic Team; other games, developed by various studios, include spin-offs in the racing, fighting, party and sports genres. The franchise also incorporates printed media, animations, feature films, and merchandise.
Sega developed the first Sonic game, released in 1991 for the Sega Genesis, to compete with Nintendo's mascot Mario. Its success helped Sega become one of the leading video game companies during the fourth generation of video game consoles in the early 1990s. Sega Technical Institute developed the next three Sonic games, plus the spin-off Sonic Spinball (1993). A number of Sonic games were also developed for Sega's 8-bit consoles, the Master System and Game Gear. After a hiatus during the unsuccessful Saturn era, the first major 3D Sonic game, Sonic Adventure, was released in 1998 for the Dreamcast. Sega exited the console market and shifted to third-party development in 2001, continuing the series on Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation systems.
While Sonic games often have unique game mechanics and stories, they feature recurring elements such as the ring-based health system, level locales, and fast-paced gameplay. Games typically feature Sonic setting out to stop Eggman's schemes for world domination, and the player navigates levels that include springs, slopes, bottomless pits, and vertical loops. Later games added a large cast of characters; some, such as Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, and Shadow the Hedgehog, have starred in spin-offs. The franchise has crossed over with other video game franchises in games such as Mario & Sonic, Sega All-Stars, and Super Smash Bros.
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Neo Metal Sonic is probably my favorite Sonic villain because his whole thing seemed about gaining individuality with the addition of dominance. Imagine your whole identity being just a copy of someone else and your only motivation is just to surpass the original. Neo Metal lifted those limitations by showing that his skills/intelligence make him more than just a lacky and just as menacing as Eggman if not more.
Neo metal was so good in the idw
arent neo metal and metal the same person
Same.
Metal (both his Neo and normal variants) was probably the one and only Sonic villain that had the most character development and impact as a proper rival to Sonic, Eggman just hates Sonic for destroying his machines, Infinite hates Sonic for some reason, Shadow hates Sonic because he thinks Sonic is the fake, but Metal Sonic hates Sonic because he believes he’s the original, not the copy, and in IDW, after almost 30 years of thinking the same thing, Metal had to come to terms with him being the copy, which is honestly really sad, unlike Shadow’s “death” or Blaze’s disappearance in 06, you can just feel Metal’s thoughts through wordless panels on paper
@SoundwaveSuperior6969 Infinite and his jackals were essentially Eggman messing with mad science by creating super soldiers in his final judgement lab, and pretty much giving them fake memories to let them show their capabilities in their mercenary careers, which almost ends up killing him like always. Basically a Shadow born without his own power source.
Ironically I think most people missed the point of Neo Metal. He essentially represents Metal Sonic's identity crisis; the realization that he is nothing more than a clone of Sonic and is not his own person is what drove him to madness. It's why he betrayed Eggman, why he gave himself a voice, why he turned himself into a hulking kaiju. He is trying to distance himself from Sonic and become his own person. Just listen to his dialogue in the boss fight, or hell even the lyrics to "What I'm Made Of".
It's honestly kind of genius and a really cool thing for a kid's video game to do, to this day its probably his most interesting portrayal in a Sonic game.
thanks for understanding
I couldn’t have put this better myself.
Underrated comment
THIS is exactly what I really needed to read this is ABSOLUTTLEY 100% correct and 'm not being sarcasticd
I agree with you
it took me a little while to appreciate infinite. at first i thought he was a poorly written character, but i looked at it more, and i kinda understood him more. it’s like, you have someone who acts all cool and tough that’s super edgy, but under the mask hes just a whiny loser. it’s actually kinda genius, he’s all serious till he gets bested and everyone sees how lame he actually is
I agree, Infinite was basically someone who acted edgier than Shadow. That's cool part, and his voice is great. But like ya said, only the mask makes him look cool, he's only a loser under the edgy as hell mask and triggered because the old Edgiest character from Sonic (Shadow) called him weak.
Infinite basically had two backstories in Forces. The writers wanted him to be a creation of Eggman before changing him to a mercenary. I think his petty backstory works in concept but it needs to be expanded on. There are villains out there with petty motivations that are written really well.
TLDR: Some people in real life are evil for no reason or for petty reasons. If written correctly, petty villains can be intimidating if you show how batshit insane they are.
@@TheTSMBoi l Like Infinite 👍🏼 l Wish Became Remastered better in Sonic Frontiers 🙏🏼
@@TheTSMBoii once heard that infinite didn't become evil, cuz shadow called him weak, but because he killed all of his friends.
@@radmilastupar4235 that’s part of it. Both that and Shadow calling him weak triggered him. (But he never got out of the whiny loser phase and without his mask he don’t do nothing)
I can definitely understand why you left out the comic lore. Zavok was written WAY better in IDW. While only Master Zik seemed to rise above being a mere stereotype out of the supporting cast, Zavok was on a whole other level.
In IDW, Zavok is intimidating, menacing, and actually seems like a legitimate threat. It probably helps that, being depicted on paper, you could imagine a much better voice than the games present.
Also, you never have to see that weird mouth he has. The comic just never shows it, which is a huge plus, in my opinion.
I wanna see him after a shave when his weird mouth is fully exposed.
I wish the comic never showed the mouth, because it actually does. And yes, it looks even worse than in the games.
What’s wrong with his voice? I usually hear Dio Brando from Jojo’s bizarre adventure.
@Austin Jenner The voice isn't bad, but I can imagine something more fitting for the character. Something deeper and more menacing would be my preference, but that's just my opinion. I imagine everyone who reads the comics has their own way of interpreting the voices.
@@M3G4T3RR4 I didn't see it when I last paged through the comics. I'll have to go back and look again. At the very least, it isn't as common as it is in the games.
Kishimoto already confirmed that both Mephiles and infinite can comeback in future sonic titles
I just hope that they’re canon
Fingers crossed there'll be follow up on that.
MEPHILES IN SONIC FRONTIERS 2
Holy heck, he did?
@@Nedum05 what? They were always canon
Keep in mind that Tails Skypatrol was originally a Disney game, Wendy originally intended to be the Snow White Queen's witch form. Also magic and fantasy existing in the main Sonic universe is not too disruptive, maybe as a third party between nature and technology?
I like that they tried to introduce more variations of villains, i just wish they made Wendy important, not just a witch on a minecart. Also, i really like how they dealt with her in archie comics
I thought they were suppose to be witch hazel?
i didn't know that thanks for letting me know though
About The End being seen as the Moon, Sonic has this friend who's into fortune cards, maybe he was unwillingly informed about Tarot symbology. The moon card is a really bad time, the moon is what stares down at you when you're lost and stranded in the night, it symbolizes the cruelty of Nature when you're at your most vulnerable.
So, very fitting.
One of the worst Sonic villains.
Fun fact: that friend into tarot cards is Amy. It's just a rather obscure (well less now that the IDW comic referenced it) character detail
@@bakedbeans5494what do you mean worst ?
@@Nabnab_TheTwistedOne The End was self-overhyped.
@@bakedbeans5494 I technically wouldn't call it the worst since Imperitur IX and Erazor Djinn exist but okay
While I don’t fully agree with your lists, I do appreciate you explaining why your list is the way it is and giving good reasons that actually changed my perspective on a couple of these villains.
While Mephiles is my top favorite Sonic villain. I’m afraid of SEGA possibly bringing him back since I feel that his character may get lost in the newer games or that he won’t be the same. While I’m not as worried now since we now have a writer who understands Sonic lore, I’m still a bit concerned that he could still be ruined. This is the same company that tries to Shadow as an antagonist when he isn’t anymore.
Fun fact: Fang/Nack isn't a weasel - that was a weird localization choice... He's actually a Jerboa, but was later retconed as part wolf, making him the first hybrid in the series.
Lol, this aged poorly
You should make a list of your favorite depictions of Dr. Robotnik/Eggman in the Sonic series. You could lump together the various iterations (Adventure, Boom, Boost, etc.), but I'd personally like to see each game and show rated separately. Robotnik was different between Adventure 1 and Adventure 2, after all. Ultimately, it's up to you what you want to do.
That's a solid idea.
eggman at the end of unleashed, during the egg dragoon fight, was the peak of eggman.
@@ChannelPup You ain't kiddin'!
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A lot of people have already mentioned Neo Metal Sonic's actual motives and drive, and I add to that when I say I feel that's really made most potent BY the fact normal Metal is supposed to cross as fed up, tired, and generally just exhausted by his role under Robotnik. The thing that makes Neo Metal Sonic WORK in heroes is that it's his personal identity, his desire to be MORE, that's what shines through there. I'm not going to beat around the bush though, Sonic Heroes and its writing did this idea basically no favors with Neo being obscured for most of the game and never directly interacting with the main cast outside of the final story, and he only goes over his feelings in the middle of final battle. I feel it best encapsulates the idea of Metal Sonic as a whole, and that, as a raw villain? He's actually kind of bad.
He's more intimidating appearance-wise, but that's why you really only feel bad for him. Many other characters are ABLE to transcend their original motives, their vision, change how the world perceives them. Metal on the other hand has none of that. Whether he is wrung under Robotnik's control fully, or operating on his own, the undeniable part of his existence, that even he is well aware of himself, is that he is and always will be an inferior version of Sonic. Neo Metal is this breaking through, is a desperate cry to be something else. I think that's why he takes the form of Metal Overlord by the end. There's a deeper part of him trying to ESCAPE the part of him that is Sonic, but he's so conflicted because fighting Sonic is all he had ever known. He has to prove to himself he IS better, that he can be more than Sonic. He's tragically bound by the limitations of his being in one way or another that he's frequently STUCK in this loop that prevents him from being himself and just remaining an inferior Sonic.
To this day, I still believe that the best way to bring Infinite back and do him justice would be on Ian jr's debut game, that would just make sense...
if one villain could come back i would love to have infinite
in execution he wasnt a good villain but as you said he had potential
with a little bit of retcon he could become a very interesting villain
Infinite is basically Eggman’s project Shadow. Originally just a prototype to eventually create a final creation with a uniquely powerful source. But then he accidentally bumps into his maker, allies with him, and finds out sooner and later that his mercenary life that he and the jackals had was a forgery (final judgment has the jackal lab). Then Shadow proceeds to end any semblance of Zero as a casual gun mission. There was no one left for Zero to carry on. Only scars of him remained of who he was.
Basically, he and Sage are meant to be top dogs that can fly on their own, with completely different backgrounds to link them to Eggman.
I'd like to see the SatAM Robotnik show up in Prime and just take over everything. It's never going to happen, unless they want to completely change the tone going forward, but maybe that's for the best. The Council of Eggmen just doesn't feel like a competent ruling body to me.
I don't know. On one hand, yeah he is cool. However that would mean demands for Sally and Freedom Fighters would skyrocket. And we all know what type of mine field that can be
Edit: I must have missed reading. My bad
@@maciejas2471 That's why it will never happen.
@@maciejas2471 Satam Robotnik can and should be in Prime, same with Sally etc, there's a large demand for these characters and it's mind boggling that a show by Wildbrain, that's about essentially the multiverse, doesn't have any of them, they'd sell far more than the lame alternatives in Prime.
There's nothing wrong with the demand for those characters rising.
Honestly when I heard The End and Mephiles are very similar I was about to argue otherwise until I thought about what they both did and yeah they’re actually pretty similar, still not sure if The End was meant to be something for people who wanted Mephiles back I think that might’ve just been a coincidence but yeah
Anyway my favorites are definitely Metal Sonic and Mephiles (I’m not counting Shadow in most of SA2 and Knuckles in most of Sonic 3&K), both of them highlighting what’s great about Sonic and Shadow, Metal being devoid of life where Sonic is full of it and feeling like everything Sonic is making sure he doesn’t become and Mephiles being like the devil of Shadow’s shoulder constantly trying to make him turn on his friends and allies only for Shadow to refuse every time and it’s always great in my opinion
Glad to see Boom get some love.
Boom will always get love here.
Eggman solos and I loved the clarification that our mad scientist is the King around here
I really cant wait for more sonic prime. Im hoping we could get some proper background on rusty roses backstory since shes the only one of sonics friends in that universe thats a villain turned into a cyborg. Im excited for a lot of other things that show could introduce, like super sonic potentially because of shadow finding a chaos emerald
Another good reason why Mephiles is better than The End and Infinite is because he actually KILLED SONIC (although temporarily) but still did what no other villains couldn’t do.
Has a big fan of infinite, I'm happy people are starting to at least think he isn't bad. I will admit has a fan, his backstory should've been better but the reason why I love the character unironically is because he reminds me of a late 2000s edgy cartoon character(not edgelord just edgy) and I like edgy characters but also his design,voice and powers are cool too. To me, he's the reason why I somehow enjoy sonic forces. But again, I do agree that he could've been better
It’s less that he has a bad backstory and it’s more like they didn’t fully explain it despite it making a lot of sense with his song and why he views his life as zero to be an illusion (he was created by Eggman to live this manufactured life, similar to Shadow having his memories altered to make his life about killing everyone.
I personally would have to disagree about Neo Metal Sonic.
To me, I think it was rather interesting seeing Metal Sonic’s drive to defeat sonic, no matter the cost take into it the logical extreme. To fill his sole purpose, he concluded that he had to conquer the Eggman empire. With all of the resources he now had he devised a plan to replicate the powers of the heroes and unlike his maniacal creator, metal sonic was smart enough to keep himself hidden until all the preparation‘s were made.
I especially like how metal sonic is finally able to speak. Although I normally like metal sonic being voiceless has a way of mirroring how sonic uses wisecracks, it is nice seeing how metal truly feels about things.
and as a final note, although I agree, it would’ve been awesome just to fight neo, metal sonic in his base form, and argue. The metal overlord is almost a mirror of supersonic. They’re both the ultimate forms of these rivals, oh, and sonic harnesses his true power he becomes a golden god, while metal sonic becomes a hideous, metallic monster.
I will never forgive you for doing neo Metal this dirty
Honestly I like the "concept" of Wendy Witchcart. It's a basic idea of technology versus magic which if the character gets utilized in the future, could bring an added layer of how both affect the word around them. Cause, nowadays I don't exactly think there are a lot of magic-users in the world of Sonic, at least in the modern-games. So introducing a character that dabbles in those kinds of mystical/strange arts against Tails who's moreso grounded in the "real-world" with technology, could bring up an interesting dynamic.
Neo Metal Sonic's story actually perfectly fits what you're describing. He drives himself insane trying to beat Sonic and prove himself as both a unique and superior individual. Just go back to his boss fight dialogue.
Mephiles the Dark is a uniquely fairy tale villain. He's the boogieman in the dark, the shadow stalking the princess and her knight. He doesn't work in another context because you would have to so drastically alter the character it would no longer be Mephiles.
He shouldn't come back. They can't do him justice without repeating themselves and they know it.
Infinite really shouldn't be graded as high as he based on potential alone. Most characters have potential, but few realize it. Melina was definitely a better villain writing wise.
That is completely bias to say neo metal sonic isn’t a good villain in heroes he had more dialogue in the final boss about metal sonic explains that he doesn’t want to be a fake he wants to be the real sonic
Yes I am biased. That is the nature of this list. It is an opinion. You can put him higher on your list.
@@ChannelPup I go by an objective stand point
@@AdamSelvig So... He wants to be the original sonic by transforming to a giant metallic monster 💀
@@JOJO-oj8gy in sonic heroes metal Sonic’s motivation was to be powerful enough so he can be the real Sonic because he was seemed to be an inferior machine to sonic and somehow he was able to break out of eggman’s programming and have his own free will of thought and control of his own actions when metal says but I can never seem to defeat you that is why I transformed my own body with my own hands the whole dialogue of sonic and metal sonic in the final boss shows metal that he wants to destroy sonic so he can be the real sonic
If they made neo have more of base metal sonic’s personality instead of just being a evil overlord, lean a bit more into his identity crisis, and let us fight the neo form instead of just bootleg perfect chaos. He would have been one of the best sonic villains.
I mean he did copy the gene of chaos
I hope we see Shadow back as a serious anti-hero with more humanity than he likes to admit, instead of a simple edgelord rival to Sonic. The dark hedgehog used to be so much smarter, cunning, and complex. He wasn’t that deep, but he wasn’t tragic and edgy for the sake of it either. Sonic may seem more empathetic and caring compared to Shadow, but Shadow does care, he just has reasons for not being so open. He takes his job seriously because he doesn’t want anyone else to suffer like Maria did, and he’ll do whatever it takes to keep the world safe, even if it means utterly destroying his enemies.
So, believe it or not, people theorized that when Sonic was fighting the End, he (Sonic) saw Mephilis as the End's form because he was the only villain to successfully kill him.
I'm quite surprised that dark Gaia didn't make the list. Other than that good video!
Dark gaia, iblis and Biolizard are just giant mojsters with a back lore, there's not much about them, only "we need to destroy them otherwise they'll destroy the world. On the other hand, why were the metarex left aside? It's a crime.
Yeah, Dark Gaia and the Black Arms were sorely missed.
I’d argue that Rusty Rose is an Enforcer for the Chaos Council, like Mecha Sally in the pre-genesis wave Archie Sonic comics
Neo Metal Sonic is the BEST Metal. Yeah he’s supposed to mirror Sonic. But Neo Metal is best because it’s Metal becoming MORE than just a robotic version or Sonic. It’s him finding his own identity. Becoming a better menace than Eggman.
Edit: Bruh, Infinite is in honorable mentions but his whole backstory is that he lost to Shadow, and that was his breaking point. Dude threw a hissy fit and it was one of the cringiest things ever. You put him in honorable mentions yet Neo Metal is in worst?
Well just as well you can put Neo Metal above Infinite on your list.
My villain ranking
Mephiles = 💪
Infinite = 💪
M. Sonic = 💪
Rusty Rose = 💪
Eggman = 💪
E. Nega = 💪
Dr. Deep = 💪
Surge = 💪
Neo MS = 🤷
Sage = 💩
The End = 💩
E. Djin = 💩
Merlina = 💩
The Zeti = 💩
Lyric = 💩
Forgot a few more
Chaos 0 =💪
Black Doom = 💩
GUN Commander = 💩
Whiskers & Johnny = 🤷
Honestly I disagree with you putting neo metal sonic in 4 worst this is metal peak I say and it the only game that game him a voice and of neo metal sonic was 2010 modern sonic where he just eggman servant that would be lame
Mephiles is my favorite Sonic villain
Why
He is coming back?
@@AwshomeHat Because he killed Sonic with no effort. And of course, he has a badass looking.
@@shardsoftime0952 It’s actually more of a possibility than you realize
@@AwshomeHat He’s terrifying and is a serious threat
Where's The Barrel of Doom? Its backstory is amazing and poses a real threat IN-GAMEPLAY unlike most other sonic villains.
Shadow is easily the most complex character in the entire franchise that i wish Sega would just expand upon him. He is the most "human" of any Sonic character and as the ultimate life form has the most potential for growth. I would love a game where you do missions for G.U.N. but see more of Shadow's personal life and reflecting on his actions as well as struggling to prove himself and that he is not the villain or threat humanity sees him as. Play off what Mephiles tells Shadow that no matter how hard he tries, humanity will betray and persecute him in the future due to distrust and his power.
You forgot that mephiles was the only villain who’s goals were reach and the ONLY one to have killed sonic and have dire consequences
Metal is at his best in Mania(Adventures)
It has his menacing side from K-Chaotix and Heroes, with his apathy from everything else.
Sad there are no Archie villains despite many of them are remembered by fanbase. For example, Regina Ferrum, her arc was one of the strongest, Mogul the Mammoth is a great gray-moral manipulator, and Scourge who is still ADORED by many people.
My problem with Rusty Rose reminds me of cyborg in teen Titans Go and teen Titans But it's strange still Rusty Rose lived in New Yoke City But Green Hill Got replaced by New Yoke City 🏙️ LoL 😂 because of Sonic the hedgehog problem 😒
Mephiles is probably my favourite Sonic villain, but Shadow is easily one of the best characters.
There is definitely a lot more potential for him in the future. I'm really looking forwards to seeing him in action in Sonic 3, and if they follow up Frontiers, I'd love to see what they could do with him there as well after all the incredible work they did with Amy, Knuckles and Tails!
No there isn't, Mephiles fused with Iblis to become Solaris and was wiped from existence, you can't bring back Mephiles without Solaris.
@@artistanthony1007 We don't know if Solaris was wiped from existence.
@@bakedbeans5494yes they both were. The events of sonic 06 were removed from existence In the end
Zavok is really amazing in the Idw comics
He better be a playable character in the next super smash bros series
There are three main Sonic comics Fleetway's Sonic The Comic (STC), Archie Sonic comic, and IDW Sonic Comic.
I was mad that Mephiles is so low but then I saw that you put Villain Shadow/Knuckles in the top 2 and saw it was more acceptable. Me personally I'd still put Mephiles as second only to Eggman himself, but Villain Shadow is great too.
here remastered of my top 5 worst list 1 biolizard 2 the END 3 iblis 4 eggman nega 5 gillwing
I’ve always believed that if you changed one thing about infinite, it would’ve made him 1000x more interesting, just make him the Sonic equivalent of the Scarecrow from Batman. Don’t just have Have him conjure any illusions, have him conjure illusions of peoples fears. It’d make him a lot more intimidating as basic every character would be challenged since they’d have to face their innate fears but it’d make everyone else more interesting as well seeing their fears. Hell, he practically sounds like Scarecrow
I could not agree less about Neo Metal, Heroes gave him so much more character and motivation. I think it fits perfectly with Metal Sonic,
He isnt just some pawn to Eggman to do his every bidding, he’a a deeply complex character struggling through an identity crisis as to what he’s supposed to be, and thats what Neo spawned from - a breaking point. He couldn’t take it anymore.
His base character cannot speak and his emotions can be misread, in his Neo form he can. That’s where we truly learn his motivations. He didn’t change suddelt, we were just able to suddenly understand him because he could now tell us directly how he felt
I don't think the Eggman in Sonic Prime is THE Eggman. I think he was split into multiple beings that represent aspects of his psyche, there isn't a sole leader of the group that represents the actual Eggman. He doesn't even have the memories of his former self.
I guess there are some interesting directions they could take him that make him better. But we'll have to see.
About the witch, like i have to agree that she dont have that much with the sonic universe (until the comics made her more fitting) and a contrast with tails i think the way the tails we know now in days is different than the tails was back in the day where he was just a kid side kick unless tails adventure was out early than skypatrol.
But the witch sucks? Yeah she kinda sucks for being a villan but i think she can be a nice comic relief in "classic games era" if they continue making mania games
There ain’t no way you put neo metal as the second worst villain 💀
You're right, there ain't. I put him as fourth worst.
What?
Please go to youtube kids instead.
@@Andrew12105 Please watch better content.
You forgot Black Doom from Shadow the Hedgehog.
BRUH LOL
@@Cooler_FHD jim carrey movie sonic
Yeah he's a great villain
@@EdgyQueen clone sonic
Put him on your list.
I am a big fan of shadow the hedgehog and I love his stories
I would disagree on your opinion with Neo Metal Sonic. I think ti is brilliant for Metal to become a being of his own as he has at that moment, completely compromised the reason of his creation and I think him using the power of the Gods to become stronger than Sonic would be a brilliant idea.
For all the reasons you mentioned, I agree that Shadow does deserve to be in the #1 spot on this list. I think that Movie Shadow may likely get shown more like the SA2 version of him instead of like an edgeloard, especially because I've heard that the director, (Jeff Fowler,) is a big fan of that character and even worked on the CGI movie production of Shadow's own 2005 spin-off game. He likely knows a good amount about what that character was originally like, and from being a fan he may possibly not want Shadow to be written wrongly in it. They said that they will be adapting an amount of elements from SA2 into that highly anticipated upcoming movie, so that could help too.
Are you forgot Silver who is antagonist in Sonic 06?
Mephiles could work well as essentially Shadows metal sonic, a recurring dark reflection style villain, having him rise out of shadows... Shadow every once in a while to manipulate and shit talk him would bring a good spook factor
Sonic doesn’t have Bad Villains but Villains like Infinite,Zavok,and the Deadly Six are Just Disappointing.
True
My favorite Sonic Villains are Mephiles Black Doom Dark Gaia and King Arthur aka The Black Knight.
What about Dark Oak of the Metarex from Sonic X? Am I only one who thinks he should be included as one of the Top Best?
Thank you for putting shadow as number 1 he is my favorite character
Also I kinda like neo metal Sonic mainly all his designs and voice
The Title: "Sonic Villains Tier List" is a "Sonic Villains: A Sonic Fan Film Reference"
Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a future game where Infinite and The End both returned and teamed up? Infinite having been used and cast aside by Eggman for his failure, seeking revenge on both Sonic and Eggman. Meanwhile The End, weakened from its defeat in Frontiers, manipulates and empowers Infinite to aid him in his revenge and ultimately use him as a vessel to continue its relentless desire for destruction.
Plus their names just kinda match in an antithetical way.
Eggman sealed Infinite away because Infinite would kill himself if he kept fighting. The doctor is cruel, but not unreasonable.
@@justice8718 And where is that stated?
@@slenderminion2229 Just look at infinite. He was crumbling to pieces.
All of a sudden I guess emerls name is emel 😂
Awesome video.
Nah bozo said IDW Neo Metal Sonic is cool
Nah bro
IDW was weak and stupid
He lost while being in overlord
Its like bringing back Solaris and make him weaker than base Team Sonic
Neo in heroes was cool and strong, he could fight 3 super forms
They just nerfed him in idw
So Shadow can beat mephiles in stop them at the end of the day I hope so.
Was lyric in this vedio I know he is a mid villa but in a pis of diolog inl sonic it says humanity failed to save and technology is the only keeping him alive he is pretty interesting if Sega did paid attention
People are going to hate me for saying this but, I like zavok. I can't deny how dumb he becomes later in lost world. Pretty sure he forgets that the lost hex is his home not sonics. I guess sonic colonised it.
I always found Gemerl in advance 3 to be what Emerl would be if he was taken control of completely
Remember that time Knuckles mugged a demigod.
I have to state my opinion you did neo dirty he was a perfect villain, but mephilis was done even worse that man should have been in 1st in my opinion people have even said he’s better than egg man for you know killing sonic in his first and only game appearance not only that he succeeded everything else was done by Solaris he killed sonic and got his revenge on shadow and fused with iblis Solaris just had to win the fight mephilis is dark sadistic and the perfect villain you always get a sense of fear when he’s on screen unlike eggman in the games or god forbid infinite or Zavok also shadow maybe a villain than but he was more like a rival at that time. Gerald Robotnick was the real villain of that story the bio lizard was more of a guard dog
Glad that someone else wants Infinite to return, he has loads of potential, especially if he was flushed out.
Also jackals are my favourite animals so that’s also a plus
Chaos would taste like water
While Metal Sonic and Dr.Eggman are the 3rd and 2nd Best Villains in the Franchise,Rusty Rose is Good so Far that I need More to make it Official First,and I Love Black Doom,Merlina,Dark Gaia,Erase Jin,and the End Mephiles the Dark is My Favorite Sonic Villain by a Long Shot,His the Closest we will get to the Devil in the Franchise,He’s Dark and Creethat will make your Skin Crawl,He’s Manipulative and Sadistic to the Point He finds Enjoyment to see Other Suffers and Finds Ways to Bend the Truth on his Lies that You Almost Believe Him,He’s Dangerous and Heartless that You Can’t Reason With Him nor can you Defeat Him Easily,and His Plan is so Simple and Effective that He wants to be Complete again with Iblis that His Only Lust is that He Craves Destruction by becoming Solaris until Reality is Nothing but a Endless Void of Darkness,We All Want to See Him Return and Even Sega,Sonic Team,and Ian Flynn Knows This,Perhaps One Day,Someday He can Finally Come Back.
Why Do You Always Write With Captions Like You Name A Trope From TVTropes?
Everybody knows its Coconuts from AOSTH
Merlina has a releatable motivation . She is afraid of death and fear. Putting Infinite above her is a crime lol
I didn't put Infinite above her. I didn't rank honourable mentions. They weren't in any particular order.
@@ChannelPup sry bro
What is the song called at the beginning?🥺 i know it but i dont know the name or where it comes from
Mephiles has more than 2 Forms. He has 4 interesting Forms.
I like most of your choices except for the Neo Metal one. I don't think you saw the point of him. Neo isn't meant to be like Metal, he's meant to be an evolution of him. Neo is Metal but with higher consciousness, a higher understanding of himself and he's opposition to sonic. Normal Metal Sonic goal has always just been to be the superior version of Sonic. That's how Robotnik designed him. but Neo's purposes goes beyond that. He's adopted Robotniks "Take over the world" persona and made his own decision to betray Eggman in the same way Eggman would do that to his own allies. You comparing Neo to Metal is missing the point, hes supposed to be a departure from him. His abilities, his appearence and even the way he taunts his enemy is supposed to be a direct contrast to Metal. I don't see how the only villian in the series that took 12 people and Robotnik himself to take it down can be the 4th worst Sonic Villian
OK imma make a list
I won't include:
Sonic boom
Comics
Redeemed characters eg. shadow / Chaos
Characters who weren't directly commiting evil e.g: Tikal / Sage
WORST:
5) Eggman Nega
4)Metal 3.0
3)Infinite
2)Master Zik
1)Ther Rest Of The Deadly 6
0)GEMERL / JEMERL
BEST:
5)Neo Metal
4)Echidna tribe (Pachacamac)
3)FinalHazard
2)Silver( I don't count him as redeemed as 06 was erased and forces really dosen't exist in my head cannon)
1)Mephiles
0)DARK GAIA
so ye that's my list bye
(Edit)
I'm adding a 0 to both of them for the absolute best / worst coz I forgot one
My question is what do you think of Black Doom as a villain? Is he good, average, terrible? Me personally I think he's actually a pretty good villains that's quite underrated.
And I now that many may disagree with me but I'd actually have to say that Black Doom is the most evil Sonic villain, not Mephiles.
Mephiles is actually a little bit more tragic then most people realize because Sonic 06 kinda just skips over this. As we both know he used to be good once. As Solaris when he was whole he watched over the people of Solleana and guided them. But then humanity turned on him after all he'd done to protect them, just to acquire his power.
When experimented on he was literally RIPPED IN HALF at birth becoming Mephiles and Iblis, so this guy was literally BORN out of pain. And then Shadow sealed him up inside the scepter for 10 years, so yeah no wonder this guy is all sadistic and evil. He was betrayed by humanity after protecting them, painfully ripped apart, and then crammed into a tiny void prison for 10 years. There was actually a pretty good reason why Mephiles came out to be the way he is.
Black Doom on the other hand is not really given a reason why he is evil, he just is, (however this is one his flaws that hes not really given much backstory aside being involved with Shadows creation) and to the point where he's willing to KILL SHADOW, his own SON just for disobeying him. He also literally unleashes a paralysis gas sending everyone into a very slow and painful demise by letting his soldiers slowly consume everyone, not to mention keeping humans alive as livestock for his soldiers, which is pretty much a fate WORSE then death.
The End is the most canonically evil. Both Mephiles and Black Doom are following their nature. Black Doom is confirmed in the manual and the final story to be planning to feed earth's population to the Black Arms.
Is it pronounced 'EE-merl'? I grew up always thinking it was pronounced 'EM-earl'.
You put a witch above some popular characters what a mad lad
here my best villains list 1 merlina the wizard/dark queen 2 mephiles the dark 3 infinite 4 erazor djinn 5 zavok
4:43 so we’re just gonna ignore the Sonic SatAM cartoon?
I feel like Erazor Djinn could have been salvaged a little bit if they had committed more to the silly hammed-up portrayal they ultimately got... because that performance is honestly pretty entertaining, but it doesn't really fit the character.
And I get a sense like they were trying to commit harder and harder to that characterization, in spite of the performance, instead of really taking advantage of the best elements they had.
Wherever he's involved there's a sense that something's off, like the writing is fighting with itself.
The reason this comes to mind, I think, is 'cause I came to this off watching a review of Doctor Who's 23rd classic season, and it strikes me how BRIAN BLESSED's character in the second story is played completely over-the-top and ridiculous, and the writing absolutely revels in letting him show that to you as much as possible.
Erazor Djinn is played pretty much the same way but he's missing the sense of earnestness that would actually make it work.
As for Mephiles, I think I've said this before but the reason I love the character is he's arguably not a character. There's a strong sense I get from watching him that he's not alive or even really sentient. Just a naked essence of will to manipulate and destroy and cause suffering that doesn't need to have free will or a mind to guide it, because in any situation he's in, he's going to respond in whatever way creates the most pain. His only motive, if you can even call it that, is to somehow absorb or become the universe and then destroy himself.
And I think where The End falls short of that is its goal is horrific, but conceivable. Mephiles's goal is so alien you can barely even call it a goal. The End is still written as a living being, where Mephiles is written as a force of nature that can talk.
Methylus the Duck got me real bad 🤣🤣🤣
34:16 Knuckles and sonic are straight I don’t agree with them being homos if they really were by screen logic If it didn’t happen on screen it never happened they both are straight convince me
...leave it to the dude with the MLP profile pic to take issue with Sonic being gay...
@@ChannelPup just because I have sonic and mlp profile doesn’t make you right when sonic and knuckles aren’t gay there’s no evidence to confirm that do you have a real argument to prove and debunk my claim
I agree with you, that no Sonic character is or should be gay, but sadly, the devs who worked on the games make them do gay stuff and stares in the cutscenes, but fck'em, don't let it bother you.
I'm not one to choose aides although I agree with Adam selvig I don't really like the idea of Sonic and Knuckles being gay it just doesn't feel right.
As chaomix has said Sonic is most likely aroace
I actually like the Deadly Six.
here my second top 5 best villains list 1 sage 2 dark gaia 3 solaris 4 neo metal sonic/metal overlord 5 time eater
The storybook games are canon lol black knight literaly continues unleasched there is a hint at the end of black knight
In Infinite's defense, Sonic Forces did everyone dirty. So maybe Sega will let Ian Flynn fix Infinite in a later game or comic.
wdym, the story book games ARE mainlne!
Damn my boy didn't even bring up Gamma, RIP my forgotten boy.
He isn't a villian
i strongly disagree on Zavok's placement
first, the Zeti are the demons or oni of the Sonic world (that already makes them a lot more intresting)
second, they kinda do use their telepathy, mainly with Zazz's moon mech, Zor's owl mech, Zik's fruit & Zavok's dragon mech
third, Zavok is the perfect foe for both Sonic & Eggman, the Sonic trio is always about Speed, Strength & Flight/Intelligence, but that trio is used as teamwork, what about the opposite? Sonic is speed, Eggman is flight/intelligence & Zavok is strength
fourth, sure he has no goal, but that is just in the zeti nature, they are evil because they are demons/oni
fifth, he is extreme in strength, durability, intelligence, and more (he is able to block Sonic's homing attack, the same attack that took out Chaos many years ago (and we know Sonic gets stronger over the years, thanks to Perfect Chaos in Generations))
also he respects Zik, showing more personality then you think
Trash villains.
I like the Deadly Six as a whole. Zavok, I ironically like the lease because he doesn't have any one specific character trait to build on.
Is he a muscle bound heavy or is he the brains of the operation? The writers can't seem to decide and Zik being there just complicates things unnecessarily.
@fictiontheorizeer4253 Zavok comes off to me as an abuse victim that’s stuck in the destructive programming of his master. Loyalty and order would be his main trait.
8:07-8:12
Why did Naugus have to catch a stray like that. I think he’s a pretty cool villain.
Also this has had magical concepts in it before so what’s wrong with having straight up witches and wizards in the Sonic franchise?
Welp missed the update on this one.
Can I still claim the giveaway?
Good lord. I’m sorry but your take on Neo Metal Sonic. Your opinion on him rlly boils down to “he’s different from the Metal Sonic I’m used to so I don’t like him” which is somewhat the point of this whole form. Metal Sonic is so determined to prove his superiority that he literally evolves. It’s a great direction to take his character in
Ahh yes, Mephiles the gamer from tilted towers