Memphis Tennessee surely is one of,if not the best sonic villain. His first line being "welcome to tilted towers" is enough to show us that he really means business
Honestly, I would consider SA2’s villain to be Geralt Robotnik. Sure, he’s already dead by that point in the story, but every important plot point happens because of him (Shadow, the ARK,). The Biolizard is just an extension of Dr Geralt’s will, who wanted to destroy the whole world as revenge. I think he ranks pretty easily in A-Tier for how his presence looms all over the story.
This. Biolizard isn’t the true villain of SA2, Gerald is, and in my opinion he’s one of the most compelling villains in the franchise. His actions between altering the entire space colony to be a planet shattering nuke, and effectively brainwashing Shadow (and perhaps even the prototype) into sharing his twisted worldview are absolutely monsterous, but at the same time you have some sympathy for him and understand just what horrible things happened in his last years that turned him into the evil bitter old man we see in SA2’s finale
I mean Perfect Dark Gaia has the fact that it is one of the only if not the only entity in the history of sonic capable of actually harming Super Sonic.
@@ulforcemegamon3094 the end was only fighting the Supreme Titan in that fight, so we don't really know if the end can harm super since they didn't fight
@@marcxworld5708 I would assume he could considering Sage who has ran countless simulations stated directly that Super Sonic could not defeat The end alone.
That whole part about Dark Gaia was straight up wrong, the people were shown all the time to be concerned about the planet being split apart. That one ice cream guy was the only person really trying to stay happy despite everything and honestly he probably didn't even know the planet split. The townsfolk in Spagonia all danced around because they were possessed, they weren't just not caring about the planet breaking. The clips in this video are cut in a way that purposely misleads the whole story of Unleashed, they never play it off or act like we shouldn't take Dark Gaia seriously. They do the exact opposite and always picture him as the gigantic threat he is. Furthermore I can just tell this guy is another typical "Meta era is Satan's spawn and villains must be super in depth and have book like motivations" that mindset is just really bad.
"Villains must be super in depth and have book like motivations" My dude literally gave Mephiles a triple S for evil for the sake of evil with no motivation other than evil
@@nidhogg8446 Yet he shows the "Meta era" villains and acts as if they're garbage despite even having more motivation then Mephiles. My point completely stands. Heck even Mephiles wasn't just evil for the sake of evil, he was Solaris's mind.
Infinite's backstory could be improved easily by making Shadow's attack the straw that broke the camels back; make the events that his phantom copies are part of be the cause of his development into the villain he is. Make him a background character that experienced the parts of the story that are glossed over; station square flooding, Metal's Egg Fleets attack followed by the Black Arms invasion, maybe some dark gaia planet shattering, and the siphoning of life energy by Zavok. In the actual story is a different story.
Shadow's attack was the weight that broke infinite's back. Infinite and Jackle squad were bounty hunters that would kill or find valuables for money. Not exactly fancy living. Infinite is clearly fed up with the world and wants it to burn (which he even states in the prequel comic. Shadow killing his squad is what finally tipped him over into volunteering himself for the phantom ruby, so that he could make the world( and by proxy shadow) suffer for his pain that he's endured. My only big problem with infinite's backstory is that Shadow was the one to kill his squad. Shadow wouldn't kill people that stand next to no chance at beating him. To Shadow a bunch of mercenaries are nothing to him. That was so out of character. That's my only big gripe with Infinite's backstory
@@Sinister_Sundown i actually agree with your last point maybe they could have been killed off by the snake(s) and/or the various hazards in luminous forest? (and infinite couldn't save them cause he was busy dealing with shadow) edit: (and he would also assume his squad had betrayed his trust, which would fill him with even MORE resentment, considering the only people that meant anything to him are gone, and he believes that they betrayed him)
Honestly Erazor Djinn is actually a whole lot more evil than you give him credit for. For starters Erazor Djinn was already erasing many numerous worlds in the Arabian Nights, so that means that he has been outright killing who knows how many beings already before Sharah met Sonic. Second Erazor Djinn tries to actually outright get Sonic killed not once but multiple times throughout the game, either indirectly or not. And last but not least he was the first and only villain in the Sonic franchise to have killed someone who Sonic considered to be a friend and make Sonic turn into a completely dark form. Sure Erazor may not get alot of screen time compared to Mephiles or make a huge impression like Neo Metal Sonic, but Erazor Djinn is undoubtedly one of the few Sonic villains who has successfully gotten on Sonic's nerves
True, which is why Erazor Djinn does more than just "look at me, I'm a big bad meanie who needs to be put down", which describes Biolizard and Dark Gaia in a nutshell. While Erazor Djinn on the other hand presents himself on who he is and what his personality is like. He shows himself to be a mischief causing killer who enjoys causing pain in others and will go far enough to actually try and kill another living being to achieve his own goals, even if it means having to deal with Sonic
I like Infinite in a "so edgy and stupid he's endearing" way. He's up there in my top three, behind Metal Sonic and whether I prefer Mephiles or Infinite as second place depends on the day.
I agree with the UA-camr salty DK Dan that it would be cool if they brought him back but with the personality of meta-era shadow well having Shadow have an actual good personality
8:34 I fully agree. That OST feels like it’s your back up to the wall, no way out. Open your heart feels like the 2nd chance and we are going to make the most of it. Having it the opposite way feels very odd, like sonic was wining, but then lost, when in reality it’s the other way.
Tbh would be cool if the first phase of perfect chaos was the second phase song, and the thing you had to do there was collect 50 rings for super sonic, then when you turn super open you heart starts playing
This might be an unpopular option but I believe infinite needs a second chance and better motivation to drive him to villainy, the reason I believe this is because he reminds of silver, both were underutilized, misunderstood and fans have made fun of these characters misfortune, but unlike infinite silver was able to grow as a character in the comics and become useful and back then when he was introduced I would defend silvers character because he has a lot of potential the problem was sega didn't write his character properly and made him annoying but if u give him a chance u can bet silver can be one of the coolest sonic characters out there and I believe infinite is in the same boat until sega get there shit together I believe infinite needs a second chance Anda better thrive to become baddest characters out there
I don't think he'll get a second chance. Pretty sure he's confirmed dead. Or at the very least, he's permanently out of the picture for the rest of the Sonic game canon.
@@rabiahbosriali4218 I mean I don't he's dead last time we saw him he ran away when things weren't going his way but u could be right that he might not show up for a long time tho I believe there's more that can be explored with this guy even tho this guy needs a lot of work
Genuine question: how is Silver annoying? His appearances in every other game since 06 (notably Rivals and Colors) have cemented him as a determined and relentless guy, if a little naive and desperate to solve the problems of the future, which the comics only escalate even further with some of his coolest storylines like Secret Freedom Fighters, Silver Age, and of course the Metal Virus Arc in IDW
11:58 “He’s just a poor man’s Chaos” That’s cause he literally is. The Biolizard was modeled after Perfect Chaos while Shadow was modeled after Super Sonic.
11:18 My theory: They originally wanted something big to literally crush the opposition with, hence they made the Bio-Lizard but soon discovered due to its size, power and overall animal behaviour, it was difficult to control (Just imagine trying to transport that thing to battle). They then decided that something smaller, intelligent, more likely to listen to commands and still powerful would be better route....hence shadow was created. Although how the Bio-Lizard survived for years with no food or water is beyond me (Perhaps it’s Back-device acts like food).
The way you said "Oh.. Oh this a VILLAIN villain" made me crack up 🤣 I always loved Mephiles, played the whole game again just for him, thank you for giving him much deserved credit and respect!
33:41 Technically speaking, it was either one of the devs, or one of the plot writers for sonic generations, HAS gone on record saying that the strange creature eggman found in space to create the time eater, was in fact what remained of mephiles after escaping the destroyed timeline, this is why crisis city shows up in generations at all.
That's pretty cool how they used some elements of Sonic 06, although Mephilis should have completely stopped exiting after blowing out the flame of Solaris; and having such an amazing villain as Mephilis being associated with "The Turd Eater" is an affront against God.
Best content creator I’ve seen in a while. I can tell just how much work you put into the video and the editing, oh god the amount of editing! I respect you so much for the work put into this video. Start-to-finish a great, funny, and overall entertaining experience. If the rest of the content is like this you’ll be big in no time!
Chaos is my favourite. I was 10 years old playing that game and chaos used to terrify me, over coming that fear and beating him as well as the game was a worthwhile moment I treasure
i honestly think that Zavok is very underrated calm, calculative, honorable, ruthless, strongest mortal Sonic ever faced as for those who say who is evil for the sake of being evil well... yeah, he is based on a demon or oni, they are evil in nature also IDW that shows that it wasn't Lost World that was the problem, it's writers that are the problem
I would argue that, if you're gonna consider Metal Sonic an extension of Eggman, shouldn't the Biolizard be considered an extension of Gerald? Also, Merlina is 100% a villain. she's a tragic villain, and I think a very well realized one, but a villain nonetheless.
I like to think part of why project shadow went from a Kaiju to Shadow, and why shadows quilts resemble Super Sonics, is because Gerald and his team were researching the ruins. The mural from S3&K depicting Super(or Hyper if you managed to get the Super Emeralds) Sonic duking it out with Eggman as well as the mural of Perfect Chaos in SA1 could’ve provided Gerald with the idea of what an ultimate life form could be, and I think the proof of this lies in the core of the Ark, that’s shrine is obviously meant to mimic the one on Angel island, at least in the Adventure era. This could be entirely crackpot or hell even untrue, but a solid and sound explanation of why project shadow went from Kaiju to edgie the hedgie from Sonic team would be nice, but I doubt we’ll ever get a proper explanation.
Good video!! I don't agree with your standards fir what counts as a villain (I can get excluding Shadow, but Malenia definitely counts, she's just a sympathetic villain), but your style is great, abd your opinions are also good (metal sonic is factually awesome).
I definitely see Merlina as an antagonist, but not a villain. The difference between those two terms is that an antagonist is someone who is in opposition/serves as an obstacle or threat to the protagonist, while a villain is a character whose evil actions affect other individuals or the plot itself. Thus, all villains are antagonists (unless said game narrative takes place via the antagonist's perspective making him/her/they the protagonist), but not all antagonists are villains. Hence, because Merlina's actions can all be steemed under "good but drastic" and she is against Sonic's efforts towards the end of Black Knight, she passes the antagonist requirements, but not the villain one. Or at least, that's how I see it. But even still, she's a great character none the less that I feel for.
Why you done did my boy Ix so dirty? I thought he was a cool villain, he's basically an evil dictator who's so powerful and menacing that he scared an entire dimension of convicts into serving him unconditionally. He emotionally manipulated his entire kingdom to the point that Shade was convinced of his pure intentions despite how obviously evil he was, and even when she was broken out of his grasp she still was unable to really lead a normal life, needing to follow someone because that's how she was raised. Also despite not really having any "forms" Ix is one of if not *the* strongest base form character we've seen, so that's gotta count for something. I think he deserves more credit then you're giving him.
I love that you mentioned vergil and ardyn as villains for example. Ardyn is so often forgotten but his absolutely great (sephiroth too 🙏). And I must say mephilles and shadow have got to be the two best villains in the sonic series
Pretty sure it is, saying how that's how Sonic met Silver, since Sonic 06 has been confirmed to not be canon or at least it's story didn't leave an impact to the canon and basically never happened.
@@Bluelightspeed26 there are some theories that the villain for rivals was supposed to be a different person but the devs thought it was too much work for a spin off game so they just slapped Nega in it
Unpopular opinion: Erazor Jinn is an actually alright villain for me. I think the arrow heart was an interesting of keeping suspense through Sonic’s journey, as it’s a race against time before his death. I don’t think Erazor’s motivation was bad in any means. And he has history with Shara that could be further explored.
I think for SA2, Gerald is more of the villain than the biolizard. Cause the events of that game only happens because of his mission for revenge for what happened on the arc. He manipulates Shadows memories to carry out his plan, leaves a vague journal that "coincidently" made its way to Eggman so that he'd find and wake Shadow up and re-purposed the ark and biolizard to destroy the earth. All to complete a plan that wouldn't fully be carried out till 50 years after his death.
I was first impressed by the editing and then the skits with yourself and I absolutely need a folder of all of your sonic memes because they are fucking hilarious xD Especially the one with Erazor Djin was RUTHLESS I bursted out in laughing I really like the flow and jokes in the videos while also analyzing it nicely! You have a very personal style and I like it! Thanks for the video and thank you for your absolutely based opinion on Mephiles S tier tbh w
just gotta say, huge breath of fresh air to see a teir list be this well scripted and edited. a lotta ranking videos are just what's essentially a livestream on a fad internet page, meanwhile this is legit an entertaining video.
I feel like Neo has to be the coolest boss of all time, an evil robotic doppelgänger gets so sick of getting his ass handed to him by the being he’s supposed to defeat that he kidnaps his own boss, upgrades himself with the biggest emerald of all time, copies the powers of some of the strongest life-forms in the universe, becomes a giant metal monster for the sole purpose of punting sonic into the sun. Not to mention the song ‘What I’m made of’ is written for him. It’s like all of Metals goals and drive to succeed put into one song! Epic.
Great video my friend, I look forward to watching all of your content. You're great editing. Keep up the great work 😊 *chefs kiss to Open Your Heart vs Chaos*
My favorite scene of Sonic Rush is the one where Eggman says "What's up, my Nega?" to his evil twin. On a more serious note, does Orbot count as a meta era villain? He was in Unleashed, albeit with a different voice and color scheme.
really cool video, especially the way you made a trailer out of unleashed, and also the joke about ice cream made me chuckle! But sorry to say both Erazor Djinn and Alf Layla wa Layla are my favorite Sonic bosses
Very entertaining video. At first I just skipped to the end to see who was #1, but the humor really drew me in and encouraged me to watch the full thing. Subscribed asf. You deserve at least 100k subscribers.
honestly- the only reason why I like black doom so much is because of the Snapcube fandub, Doom is my favorite is my favorite *_only_* because S.C fandub is my cannon version of them 💀
Actually Eggman Nega is a lot more interesting than people think he is, for one his goals and his personality are the opposite of regular Eggman, one example being Eggman is very inpatient and rude, meanwhile Eggman Nega acts very polite and is extremely patient
Zavok is an incredibly boring and basic villain in Sonic Lost World. But in the IDW Comics, Ian Flynn actually makes him a somewhat interesting villain, easily taking him from F up to at least a B. I genuinely want him to bring back Infinite because I really think he could turn that garbage into a cool character post-forces defeat.
Going if of your take on Neo Metal Sonic I just want to say I agree with you and tell you that Neo’s threat level is also sampled in the comics. He almost beats the hero’s and takes over the world without anyone to prop him up and it took all the powerful characters from across the games to defeat him. Tbh Metal was beaten by a square inch of luck. If that doesn’t say how powerful he is, I don’t know what would.
honestly I kanda like Erazor Djin, mainly because of how good a job he does of making the player hate him he constantly insults sonic, puts him on timer to bring him the seven world rings or he will die, and even kills Shara while trying to kill sonic, this makes his final defeat where he's forced back into his lamp all the more satisfying
Honestly infinite gets hate for bad writing more than anything. His origin is he snapped because his team died and he was helpless to stop it. Thus the I am weak line. Give him a good writer and I guarantee he will succeed as a villain or anti hero.
one of my favorites has got to be mammoth Mogul. I know he was kind of getting humiliated in the early issues but in the later issues he was such a fun villain to read!
There are some wrong part with Dark Gaia The guy specificly only spread Negative Emotions during Night Time while Day Time its Chip's Positive Emotions, its also why its Shattered Pieces only exist in Night Time and its also the reason why Sonic turned into a Werehog, except Sonic's Nature is FAR surperior than most corruption that exist in his homeworld(I say most because whatever The End is, its the most Powerfull Entity in the Sonic Lore that Potentially is still an active threat, the thing is Evangelion Angel level of Eldritch Strength)
Technically Gerald's the villain of SA2, idk why he considered the Biolizard as that instead since it's barely a character lol Gerald is very dead tho, so that may be an argument against him being an actual villain
The editing of this video is on point, big props But is just ironic how you shit on how metal overlord's transformation cutscene drags on too much, while half of the jokes in this video drag on just as bad.
So as to why the Biolizard is a prototype of the perfect lifeform and how we go from giant lizard to hedgehog the answer is actually quite amazing: The perfect lifeform was based on a mural Gerald Robotnik saw on his travels, implied to be the prophecy of Perfect Chaos vs Super Sonic. Do when making the Perfect lifeform Gerald based the Biolizard in Perfect Chaos but seeing how it needed a life support to exist (do to chaos being a water God like being, see the artificial chaos for future references of life supports) he moved on to create Shadow the hedgehog based on super Sonic. Hence why shadows normal quills look like super sonic's
I completely agree. Infinite should have been Mephilies and I LOVE him as a villain! Hell, I'm still willing to believe the fan theory that Mephilies is possessing Infinite via the phantom ruby. I know it's a stretch, but I want him to come back somehow!
Oh this video is awesome!! Your editing skills are INCREDIBLE and the video was so much fun! Definitely got a new sub!! :D My fave villain has GOT to be Mephiles, you said it all in the video, he's just an amazing villain. He has it all, cool music, creates a perfectly tense atmosphere, the looks and the mannerisms, like how he walks towards Shadow in his intro, the way he talks is so. perfect . and his manipulation of the characters is so cool to see. Also YES!! unleashed!!!! chip and the werehog
Kind of a hot take but I kind of like Erazor….I mean at best he’s still d or a lucky c but I kind of enjoy the fact he’s just a flat out ham onscreen (I mean you still get better in that department with eggman but you can still get worse in that field *coughs in infinite*). Plus he does unironically have a cool design and his battle as Alf Wayla Wa Layla is the best boss in secret rings…yeah low bar I know. The big problem I have with him is that Secret Rings does nothing in regards to elaborating his ties to Shahra which could’ve gone somewhere interesting….but they just say she wants to be with him for some reason and that’s it.
Memphis Tennessee surely is one of,if not the best sonic villain. His first line being "welcome to tilted towers" is enough to show us that he really means business
not funny
I got the chills when he said "I am going to sniff you little man"
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My personal favorite is "That just makes you a beta cuck"
@@madao1702 get a sense of humor then
"I swear if Sonic Frontier's final boss is named Dark Death or something--" *laughs in the End*
Ironically, the final boss’ name is literally *_The End_*
@@Hexsmasher2099 he Said the end in purpose
@@Winterrfox I know, I’m just spilling the irony LOL
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IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTERRRRR
i think the animators/modelers were just REALLY proud of how they made metal overlord and wanted to really show him off with a *really* long cutscene
they probably had these ideas of how he would look they way he does and said "holy shit that's so cool" and actually animated it xD
In defense of the cutscene, i had a really nice 1 hour sleep while it was going
Dude, that Chaos introduction was seriously epic! You have amazing editing skills!
I agree with this.
Another reason Chaos is a perfect sonic villain: he is literally made out of sonics biggest weakness.
Honestly, I would consider SA2’s villain to be Geralt Robotnik. Sure, he’s already dead by that point in the story, but every important plot point happens because of him (Shadow, the ARK,). The Biolizard is just an extension of Dr Geralt’s will, who wanted to destroy the whole world as revenge.
I think he ranks pretty easily in A-Tier for how his presence looms all over the story.
This. Biolizard isn’t the true villain of SA2, Gerald is, and in my opinion he’s one of the most compelling villains in the franchise. His actions between altering the entire space colony to be a planet shattering nuke, and effectively brainwashing Shadow (and perhaps even the prototype) into sharing his twisted worldview are absolutely monsterous, but at the same time you have some sympathy for him and understand just what horrible things happened in his last years that turned him into the evil bitter old man we see in SA2’s finale
I mean Perfect Dark Gaia has the fact that it is one of the only if not the only entity in the history of sonic capable of actually harming Super Sonic.
What about heavy king in sonic mania
So can Solaris, it hurts super sonic, super shadow, and super silver too
What about The End ? , Super Sonic has to fight alongside Supreme and Sage to defeat it and the Big laser that the end can shoot is an instakill
@@ulforcemegamon3094 the end was only fighting the Supreme Titan in that fight, so we don't really know if the end can harm super since they didn't fight
@@marcxworld5708 I would assume he could considering Sage who has ran countless simulations stated directly that Super Sonic could not defeat The end alone.
That whole part about Dark Gaia was straight up wrong, the people were shown all the time to be concerned about the planet being split apart. That one ice cream guy was the only person really trying to stay happy despite everything and honestly he probably didn't even know the planet split. The townsfolk in Spagonia all danced around because they were possessed, they weren't just not caring about the planet breaking. The clips in this video are cut in a way that purposely misleads the whole story of Unleashed, they never play it off or act like we shouldn't take Dark Gaia seriously. They do the exact opposite and always picture him as the gigantic threat he is. Furthermore I can just tell this guy is another typical "Meta era is Satan's spawn and villains must be super in depth and have book like motivations" that mindset is just really bad.
Thank you. Someone said it.
I'm proud of you for saying this
"Villains must be super in depth and have book like motivations"
My dude literally gave Mephiles a triple S for evil for the sake of evil with no motivation other than evil
@@nidhogg8446 Yet he shows the "Meta era" villains and acts as if they're garbage despite even having more motivation then Mephiles. My point completely stands. Heck even Mephiles wasn't just evil for the sake of evil, he was Solaris's mind.
Infinite's backstory could be improved easily by making Shadow's attack the straw that broke the camels back; make the events that his phantom copies are part of be the cause of his development into the villain he is. Make him a background character that experienced the parts of the story that are glossed over; station square flooding, Metal's Egg Fleets attack followed by the Black Arms invasion, maybe some dark gaia planet shattering, and the siphoning of life energy by Zavok.
In the actual story is a different story.
ooh, that's genuinely a good idea!
Background secondary turned main. I like that.
Shadow's attack was the weight that broke infinite's back. Infinite and Jackle squad were bounty hunters that would kill or find valuables for money. Not exactly fancy living. Infinite is clearly fed up with the world and wants it to burn (which he even states in the prequel comic. Shadow killing his squad is what finally tipped him over into volunteering himself for the phantom ruby, so that he could make the world( and by proxy shadow) suffer for his pain that he's endured. My only big problem with infinite's backstory is that Shadow was the one to kill his squad. Shadow wouldn't kill people that stand next to no chance at beating him. To Shadow a bunch of mercenaries are nothing to him. That was so out of character. That's my only big gripe with Infinite's backstory
@@Sinister_Sundown i actually agree with your last point
maybe they could have been killed off by the snake(s) and/or the various hazards in luminous forest? (and infinite couldn't save them cause he was busy dealing with shadow)
edit: (and he would also assume his squad had betrayed his trust, which would fill him with even MORE resentment, considering the only people that meant anything to him are gone, and he believes that they betrayed him)
@@Victini7472 very good idea
Honestly Erazor Djinn is actually a whole lot more evil than you give him credit for. For starters Erazor Djinn was already erasing many numerous worlds in the Arabian Nights, so that means that he has been outright killing who knows how many beings already before Sharah met Sonic. Second Erazor Djinn tries to actually outright get Sonic killed not once but multiple times throughout the game, either indirectly or not. And last but not least he was the first and only villain in the Sonic franchise to have killed someone who Sonic considered to be a friend and make Sonic turn into a completely dark form. Sure Erazor may not get alot of screen time compared to Mephiles or make a huge impression like Neo Metal Sonic, but Erazor Djinn is undoubtedly one of the few Sonic villains who has successfully gotten on Sonic's nerves
Being “evil” doesn’t make him a good character ;)
True, which is why Erazor Djinn does more than just "look at me, I'm a big bad meanie who needs to be put down", which describes Biolizard and Dark Gaia in a nutshell. While Erazor Djinn on the other hand presents himself on who he is and what his personality is like. He shows himself to be a mischief causing killer who enjoys causing pain in others and will go far enough to actually try and kill another living being to achieve his own goals, even if it means having to deal with Sonic
@@megajam4837 "First of all, Your Jordans are completely fake"
- erase jeans in a nutshell
@@megajam4837 bro, he may be up there with the top 10, but he doesn't take mephiles's 1st place trophy
I like Infinite in a "so edgy and stupid he's endearing" way. He's up there in my top three, behind Metal Sonic and whether I prefer Mephiles or Infinite as second place depends on the day.
I wish infinite pulled an EJ from spark tej 2. Where:
Infinite: **Will you flee screaming?**
Avatar: "Who the fuck are you?"
I agree with the UA-camr salty DK Dan that it would be cool if they brought him back but with the personality of meta-era shadow well having Shadow have an actual good personality
Cringe.
I agree, he gives me Leon from Pokémon vibes, like he's trying too hard to seem cool and get your attention
8:34
I fully agree.
That OST feels like it’s your back up to the wall, no way out.
Open your heart feels like the 2nd chance and we are going to make the most of it.
Having it the opposite way feels very odd, like sonic was wining, but then lost, when in reality it’s the other way.
Tbh would be cool if the first phase of perfect chaos was the second phase song, and the thing you had to do there was collect 50 rings for super sonic, then when you turn super open you heart starts playing
This might be an unpopular option but I believe infinite needs a second chance and better motivation to drive him to villainy, the reason I believe this is because he reminds of silver, both were underutilized, misunderstood and fans have made fun of these characters misfortune, but unlike infinite silver was able to grow as a character in the comics and become useful and back then when he was introduced I would defend silvers character because he has a lot of potential the problem was sega didn't write his character properly and made him annoying but if u give him a chance u can bet silver can be one of the coolest sonic characters out there and I believe infinite is in the same boat until sega get there shit together I believe infinite needs a second chance Anda better thrive to become baddest characters out there
I don't think he'll get a second chance. Pretty sure he's confirmed dead. Or at the very least, he's permanently out of the picture for the rest of the Sonic game canon.
If you ask me, I think that the Time Eater is even worse
With Ian Flynn it could be foxed
@@rabiahbosriali4218 I mean I don't he's dead last time we saw him he ran away when things weren't going his way but u could be right that he might not show up for a long time tho I believe there's more that can be explored with this guy even tho this guy needs a lot of work
Genuine question: how is Silver annoying? His appearances in every other game since 06 (notably Rivals and Colors) have cemented him as a determined and relentless guy, if a little naive and desperate to solve the problems of the future, which the comics only escalate even further with some of his coolest storylines like Secret Freedom Fighters, Silver Age, and of course the Metal Virus Arc in IDW
25:41 - 26:58
Why did u make such a badass intro?
This videos editing is seriously top notch overall.
Black Doom will always be "The Devil" to me
And Mephalis as "Memphis Tennasse"
The Devil from Da Bible
@@twilight_potato heyyy it’s meee, the devil
11:58 “He’s just a poor man’s Chaos”
That’s cause he literally is. The Biolizard was modeled after Perfect Chaos while Shadow was modeled after Super Sonic.
Neo metal and mephiles are on of the most badass characters in the sonic franchise the dialogue is perfect the boss is creepy the tracks bone chilling
It's actually shocking to me how little subscribers you have when your editing is this good
He recent
This only means he’s going to get subscribers faster than an S-Rank on 1-2 in Frontiers!! (Hopefully, since he’s really good 😊!!)
you're ridiculously good at editing for how small your channel is, hope it grows well in the future
That's nice, now let's see Dr.Starline's Rank
*_I heavily agree with this comment_*
To be honest? With what he did to Surge and Kit, I’m thinking A rank.
All of the introductory scenes for the villains feel like actual movie trailers
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My theory:
They originally wanted something big to literally crush the opposition with, hence they made the Bio-Lizard but soon discovered due to its size, power and overall animal behaviour, it was difficult to control (Just imagine trying to transport that thing to battle).
They then decided that something smaller, intelligent, more likely to listen to commands and still powerful would be better route....hence shadow was created.
Although how the Bio-Lizard survived for years with no food or water is beyond me (Perhaps it’s Back-device acts like food).
Those transitions between games were really cool!!
The way you said "Oh.. Oh this a VILLAIN villain" made me crack up 🤣 I always loved Mephiles, played the whole game again just for him, thank you for giving him much deserved credit and respect!
I loved this video bro I’m a huge sonic fan and the way you explain all the villains makes it hilarious and your editing skills are top notch!
33:41 Technically speaking, it was either one of the devs, or one of the plot writers for sonic generations, HAS gone on record saying that the strange creature eggman found in space to create the time eater, was in fact what remained of mephiles after escaping the destroyed timeline, this is why crisis city shows up in generations at all.
Still not a remainder of Mephiles.
That's pretty cool how they used some elements of Sonic 06, although Mephilis should have completely stopped exiting after blowing out the flame of Solaris; and having such an amazing villain as Mephilis being associated with "The Turd Eater" is an affront against God.
@@FierceDIO time eater seems like the only bridge to being him back tho
I don’t know how I wasn’t subscribed before but you definitely deserve it the editing is on point
Metal Sonic is my favorite designed character. Fell in love with him in sonic cd and still love it years later
Eggman is definitely my favorite villain of all time. He is timeless like the Joker.
Oh finally someone understands how much Mephiles the Dark Is great as a villain
We all do
Best content creator I’ve seen in a while. I can tell just how much work you put into the video and the editing, oh god the amount of editing! I respect you so much for the work put into this video. Start-to-finish a great, funny, and overall entertaining experience.
If the rest of the content is like this you’ll be big in no time!
The editing in this video was crazy good. Too good😂😂😂 got me rolling
Chaos is my favourite. I was 10 years old playing that game and chaos used to terrify me, over coming that fear and beating him as well as the game was a worthwhile moment I treasure
i honestly think that Zavok is very underrated
calm, calculative, honorable, ruthless, strongest mortal Sonic ever faced
as for those who say who is evil for the sake of being evil
well... yeah, he is based on a demon or oni, they are evil in nature
also IDW
that shows that it wasn't Lost World that was the problem, it's writers that are the problem
IDW Zavok is amazing
IDW picked up the mess that was Zavok and actually made him a badass.
subscribed the second after chaos' intro finished. fantastic editing oh my lord-
I would argue that, if you're gonna consider Metal Sonic an extension of Eggman, shouldn't the Biolizard be considered an extension of Gerald?
Also, Merlina is 100% a villain. she's a tragic villain, and I think a very well realized one, but a villain nonetheless.
Found you via this video, you make very good content and hopefully you get a lot more popularity than you do now
Imo I find Erazor Djinn to be intimidating as a villain. Though thought his E rank segment was hilarious.
I love the editing bro wtf that shit was crazy keep doing your thing loved the O6 love and the editing with and O6, Unleashed
I like to think part of why project shadow went from a Kaiju to Shadow, and why shadows quilts resemble Super Sonics, is because Gerald and his team were researching the ruins. The mural from S3&K depicting Super(or Hyper if you managed to get the Super Emeralds) Sonic duking it out with Eggman as well as the mural of Perfect Chaos in SA1 could’ve provided Gerald with the idea of what an ultimate life form could be, and I think the proof of this lies in the core of the Ark, that’s shrine is obviously meant to mimic the one on Angel island, at least in the Adventure era. This could be entirely crackpot or hell even untrue, but a solid and sound explanation of why project shadow went from Kaiju to edgie the hedgie from Sonic team would be nice, but I doubt we’ll ever get a proper explanation.
2:39 that infinite bit was golden 💀
With how quickly you brushed him off, i'm now curious to know you hate Erazor Djinn so much.
Good video!! I don't agree with your standards fir what counts as a villain (I can get excluding Shadow, but Malenia definitely counts, she's just a sympathetic villain), but your style is great, abd your opinions are also good (metal sonic is factually awesome).
I definitely see Merlina as an antagonist, but not a villain. The difference between those two terms is that an antagonist is someone who is in opposition/serves as an obstacle or threat to the protagonist, while a villain is a character whose evil actions affect other individuals or the plot itself.
Thus, all villains are antagonists (unless said game narrative takes place via the antagonist's perspective making him/her/they the protagonist), but not all antagonists are villains.
Hence, because Merlina's actions can all be steemed under "good but drastic" and she is against Sonic's efforts towards the end of Black Knight, she passes the antagonist requirements, but not the villain one.
Or at least, that's how I see it. But even still, she's a great character none the less that I feel for.
The irony is that Eggman and chaos came out before beerus and Dr gero
27:32 Best part of the video
This video convinced me to subscribe. Great editing skills man. Made me laugh so hard 😂
I love how you just completely ignored Generations and onward villains until Frontiers
I cannot agree with you more
Come on man how could you pass over all time greats such as
zavok
lyric
and who could forget
∞
Why you done did my boy Ix so dirty? I thought he was a cool villain, he's basically an evil dictator who's so powerful and menacing that he scared an entire dimension of convicts into serving him unconditionally. He emotionally manipulated his entire kingdom to the point that Shade was convinced of his pure intentions despite how obviously evil he was, and even when she was broken out of his grasp she still was unable to really lead a normal life, needing to follow someone because that's how she was raised. Also despite not really having any "forms" Ix is one of if not *the* strongest base form character we've seen, so that's gotta count for something. I think he deserves more credit then you're giving him.
I found this video extremely entertaining. You deserve alot more subscribers! I subscribed :)
I love that you mentioned vergil and ardyn as villains for example. Ardyn is so often forgotten but his absolutely great (sephiroth too 🙏). And I must say mephilles and shadow have got to be the two best villains in the sonic series
Thing about Eggman Nega is that Rivals is not canon so everyone can 100% agree he's from sol dimension, case closed
Pretty sure it is, saying how that's how Sonic met Silver, since Sonic 06 has been confirmed to not be canon or at least it's story didn't leave an impact to the canon and basically never happened.
@@Bluelightspeed26 there are some theories that the villain for rivals was supposed to be a different person but the devs thought it was too much work for a spin off game so they just slapped Nega in it
@@Bluelightspeed26 Crisis City appeared in Sonic Generations and Eggman stated that he used Time Eater to erase his past defeats.
@@bakedbeans5494 Sonic Generations is an anniversary game, 06 was a Sonic game wether people like it or not, therefore it will be referenced
Unpopular opinion: Erazor Jinn is an actually alright villain for me. I think the arrow heart was an interesting of keeping suspense through Sonic’s journey, as it’s a race against time before his death. I don’t think Erazor’s motivation was bad in any means. And he has history with Shara that could be further explored.
Great editing, laughed all the way through
Solid list too 👏
I think for SA2, Gerald is more of the villain than the biolizard. Cause the events of that game only happens because of his mission for revenge for what happened on the arc. He manipulates Shadows memories to carry out his plan, leaves a vague journal that "coincidently" made its way to Eggman so that he'd find and wake Shadow up and re-purposed the ark and biolizard to destroy the earth. All to complete a plan that wouldn't fully be carried out till 50 years after his death.
I was first impressed by the editing and then the skits with yourself and I absolutely need a folder of all of your sonic memes because they are fucking hilarious xD
Especially the one with Erazor Djin was RUTHLESS I bursted out in laughing
I really like the flow and jokes in the videos while also analyzing it nicely! You have a very personal style and I like it! Thanks for the video and thank you for your absolutely based opinion on Mephiles S tier tbh w
just gotta say, huge breath of fresh air to see a teir list be this well scripted and edited.
a lotta ranking videos are just what's essentially a livestream on a fad internet page, meanwhile this is legit an entertaining video.
The video isn't even half over bit I'm already subscribing
Okay okay your editing and skits ar spot on, I'll give you that.
Honestly my favorite 'modern' Sonic villain was Time Eater....purely because of the theory it's actually Mephiles. ^^,
I feel like Neo has to be the coolest boss of all time, an evil robotic doppelgänger gets so sick of getting his ass handed to him by the being he’s supposed to defeat that he kidnaps his own boss, upgrades himself with the biggest emerald of all time, copies the powers of some of the strongest life-forms in the universe, becomes a giant metal monster for the sole purpose of punting sonic into the sun.
Not to mention the song ‘What I’m made of’ is written for him. It’s like all of Metals goals and drive to succeed put into one song! Epic.
Chaos and Metal Sonic are my two favourite Sonic Villains of all time.
I'm not the biggest sonic fan but, funny, passionate, good editing, long form analysis? buddy, you got yourself a sub.
I am absolutely stunned by your edits
We need a petition to get mephiles back into sonic games
Just no.
@@bakedbeans5494 just yes , dont tell me you rather see zavok again
Maybe not in a game but hopefully in the movie one day
@@rwby900 Stop trying to salvage characters from bad games.
Don't. Mephiles was awesome in 06 for a reason, we don't need him to be ruined in future games.
Great video my friend, I look forward to watching all of your content. You're great editing. Keep up the great work 😊 *chefs kiss to Open Your Heart vs Chaos*
Erazor really got an e sheesh, felt like as a villain he’d be at least on par with biolizard with a C
Deadass, if djinn e biolizard shoulda been triple z or sumn
My favorite scene of Sonic Rush is the one where Eggman says "What's up, my Nega?" to his evil twin.
On a more serious note, does Orbot count as a meta era villain? He was in Unleashed, albeit with a different voice and color scheme.
I love that you referenced the uncanny resemblance to Biollante from the Godzilla franchise.
5:20 Thank you. Finally someone mentions the similarities between chaos and beerus.😊
Your edits and memes are on point; It’s easy to see you are a passionate and talented content creator.
Instant sub!
Metal Sonic, is easily my favorite Sonic villain, and Shadow although not an out and out villain is just my most favorite Sonic character in general.
Erazor was pretty active and his defeat came down like a castle falling because his defeat was the bitter sweet
really cool video, especially the way you made a trailer out of unleashed, and also the joke about ice cream made me chuckle! But sorry to say both Erazor Djinn and Alf Layla wa Layla are my favorite Sonic bosses
Very entertaining video. At first I just skipped to the end to see who was #1, but the humor really drew me in and encouraged me to watch the full thing. Subscribed asf. You deserve at least 100k subscribers.
Oh that mephiles intro is just too good
honestly- the only reason why I like black doom so much is because of the Snapcube fandub,
Doom is my favorite is my favorite *_only_* because S.C fandub is my cannon version of them 💀
**Black Doom Rises from underground **
“HEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHATS UPPPPPPPPPPPP. ITS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”
Shadow: “STAHP”
Ah, yes, Metal Sonic, Too Much Water, The Devil™ from The Bible™, [REDACTED] and Memphis, Tennessee, my favorite Sonic villains!
Actually Eggman Nega is a lot more interesting than people think he is, for one his goals and his personality are the opposite of regular Eggman, one example being Eggman is very inpatient and rude, meanwhile Eggman Nega acts very polite and is extremely patient
Zavok is an incredibly boring and basic villain in Sonic Lost World.
But in the IDW Comics, Ian Flynn actually makes him a somewhat interesting villain, easily taking him from F up to at least a B. I genuinely want him to bring back Infinite because I really think he could turn that garbage into a cool character post-forces defeat.
Going if of your take on Neo Metal Sonic I just want to say I agree with you and tell you that Neo’s threat level is also sampled in the comics. He almost beats the hero’s and takes over the world without anyone to prop him up and it took all the powerful characters from across the games to defeat him. Tbh Metal was beaten by a square inch of luck. If that doesn’t say how powerful he is, I don’t know what would.
honestly I kanda like Erazor Djin, mainly because of how good a job he does of making the player hate him he constantly insults sonic, puts him on timer to bring him the seven world rings or he will die, and even kills Shara while trying to kill sonic, this makes his final defeat where he's forced back into his lamp all the more satisfying
Honestly infinite gets hate for bad writing more than anything. His origin is he snapped because his team died and he was helpless to stop it. Thus the I am weak line. Give him a good writer and I guarantee he will succeed as a villain or anti hero.
I think that was the case in the og Japanese dub
one of my favorites has got to be mammoth Mogul. I know he was kind of getting humiliated in the early issues but in the later issues he was such a fun villain to read!
Unpopular opinion: Zavok and Lyric the Ancient are underrated villains
Trash villains
There are some wrong part with Dark Gaia
The guy specificly only spread Negative Emotions during Night Time while Day Time its Chip's Positive Emotions, its also why its Shattered Pieces only exist in Night Time and its also the reason why Sonic turned into a Werehog, except Sonic's Nature is FAR surperior than most corruption that exist in his homeworld(I say most because whatever The End is, its the most Powerfull Entity in the Sonic Lore that Potentially is still an active threat, the thing is Evangelion Angel level of Eldritch Strength)
28:10 that Sticks gravestone did not age well lmao
Is Gerald Robotnik not a main villain? He comes up in several games.
Technically Gerald's the villain of SA2, idk why he considered the Biolizard as that instead since it's barely a character lol
Gerald is very dead tho, so that may be an argument against him being an actual villain
Clearly the idea for the video is "villains that are also the final boss fight", not just villains in general
The editing of this video is on point, big props
But is just ironic how you shit on how metal overlord's transformation cutscene drags on too much, while half of the jokes in this video drag on just as bad.
The eggman nega segment is hilarious.
omg. the persona and overwatch references were so good HAHAHA i like this video a lot!!!! excited to see more :D
So as to why the Biolizard is a prototype of the perfect lifeform and how we go from giant lizard to hedgehog the answer is actually quite amazing:
The perfect lifeform was based on a mural Gerald Robotnik saw on his travels, implied to be the prophecy of Perfect Chaos vs Super Sonic. Do when making the Perfect lifeform Gerald based the Biolizard in Perfect Chaos but seeing how it needed a life support to exist (do to chaos being a water God like being, see the artificial chaos for future references of life supports) he moved on to create Shadow the hedgehog based on super Sonic. Hence why shadows normal quills look like super sonic's
I completely agree. Infinite should have been Mephilies and I LOVE him as a villain! Hell, I'm still willing to believe the fan theory that Mephilies is possessing Infinite via the phantom ruby. I know it's a stretch, but I want him to come back somehow!
Banger vid
Oh this video is awesome!! Your editing skills are INCREDIBLE and the video was so much fun! Definitely got a new sub!! :D
My fave villain has GOT to be Mephiles, you said it all in the video, he's just an amazing villain. He has it all, cool music, creates a perfectly tense atmosphere, the looks and the mannerisms, like how he walks towards Shadow in his intro, the way he talks is so. perfect . and his manipulation of the characters is so cool to see.
Also YES!! unleashed!!!! chip and the werehog
I would have given Dark Gaia A Rank, but close enough to a perfect video. I'll give you the sub and like.
Best sonic UA-camr since Some call me Johnny!
Totally subbing!
Perfect Chaos most definitely gave me Biollante vibes and Metal Sonic as a whole is one of the best Sonic villains
I love how he he makes a small edit for most villans
the editing with that chaos intro FUCKS bro, kudos
Great vid !
if you need I could run your voice take in a mastering program to get better cleaner voice ( I'm not a pro, but I have the tools )
Kind of a hot take but I kind of like Erazor….I mean at best he’s still d or a lucky c but I kind of enjoy the fact he’s just a flat out ham onscreen (I mean you still get better in that department with eggman but you can still get worse in that field *coughs in infinite*). Plus he does unironically have a cool design and his battle as Alf Wayla Wa Layla is the best boss in secret rings…yeah low bar I know. The big problem I have with him is that Secret Rings does nothing in regards to elaborating his ties to Shahra which could’ve gone somewhere interesting….but they just say she wants to be with him for some reason and that’s it.