Dexter throughout his career put on 50+lbs of muscle but a very gradual pace.He never got sloppy during the off season,he trained smart and learned how to put the most tension on the muscle (thanks to Charles Glass) and when he started working with George Farah for his conditioning,he was a revelation.Dexter at his best is pure aesthetics.His physique was ahead of its time.He never caved to the bigger is better crowd.
If you are trying to say any single IFBB pro BB in open makes a conscious decision to carry less muscle than their competitors then that is a misunderstanding. Does it really look like Dexter Jackson was sparing any effort to put as much muscle as humanly possible on his body, I mean sure if you mean, he wasn't getting as high of BF in the off season then yes, but any open competitor is trying to be as muscular as physically possible.
@@FeralFlareMasterYi He's said that he couldve easily put on at least 20lbs more of muscle but that doing so quickly would blow out his proportions.I think its 2014 or 2015 that he showed what working with George Farah brought to his physique.He massed up but was fucking shredded.Glutes,hamstrings,and lowerback were bonkers. I mean watch him on stage.He always looked fresh faced and never looked winded from the mandatory's.Other pros be putting on weight so fast that they develop sleep apnea and need a machine to help them breathe.
@@valasuenos475 That is valid, I'm just wondering how did he know that he could have done that? Was he taking X amount less gear that cost him 20 lbs of muscle gain. Was he lifting X less weight that he knows over time would have yielded him 20 more lbs. Seems like there is something to it and statements are statements, but it just seems a little coulda shoulda to me.
@@FeralFlareMasterYi This could be a rumor but Dexter's drug use was relatively tame compared to most pros.Hes got that light bone structure like Flex Wheeler had.Just made him look freakier.I think its more of getting tests done to see his muscle composition and when you're at that level you know every inch of your physique and what can go where.Then again I believe he did it for health as well as aesthetic reasons.Hes smaller so he doesn't need as much pure bulk.Think of smaller bodybuilders,think of Lee Priest or Rich Gaspari.Rich Gaspari actually decided to lose muscle and mass in order to compete.Lee Priest actually beat Ronnie one time I think.Dexter beat Cutler.Now Im not gonna deny that Cutler came back the next year looking like a fucking Trex lol it can be done though and Dexter routinely did so.
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I am a medical professional and have enjoyed bodybuilding all my life. Heavy weights wear joint's prematurely. Fat people carry heavy body weight and have joint problems. It wear's the joints my friends. Exercise is great but anything excess get's results. How much do you want to pay ? I believe Ronnie gave everything and would do it again. This is why I am not competitive but love the sport. It's a true joy for me at age 54 to train with my 16, 20 and 22 year old sons. These times are better than stepping on the stage.
1:57 Ronnie regrets what he has done to his body. Anyone is going to lie to keep their image up. He has a supplement company now; he will say and sell anything; including fat burner cream.
Ronnie is crippled from a combination of heavy drug use which eats your tendons & ligaments away when you run gear non stop for 25 years, along with lifting too heavy, the combination is a dead end road.
I just turned 41 and still lift pretty heavy. Regularly squat 405, deadlift 405, bench 315. That said, I recently switched to Smith Machine for my bench snd have been considering taking my squat and deads down. I also have been incorporating more machines into my workouts. As you get older those injuries and mistakes are less forgiving.
true brilliance in switching to mostly machines. the slight difference in physiques only matters if you are on the stage at the elite levels. If you are a regular person, normal athlete, then take Dex's advice and make the changes. You will be able to workout well into your 60's that way. I am almost 50 and training harder than guys half my age. But only because I took out my ego and added stabilizing work. Great info!
Tbh it's fine to just use free weights if you are doing regular workouts, why Ronnie and the others got injured is because they were using weights above the limit of their body. Roids were also a problem, they stimulate muscle growth but do nothing for tendons.
@@Kuroganemk2 Yes, thank you. I was saying this to myself through out the video. Nothing wrong with free weights as long as you use proper form and stay natty. lol
@@unknownx7252 Think most of those injuries come from losing the grip, did you see the sizes of those dumbells some of those guys use? One wrong move and they going to twist something. Machines isolate a lot so you just pull or push with no wobble action between.
If aesthetics was the golden standard by which bodybuilding was judged Dexter would have rated higher than Ronnie, no doubts, bodybuilders like Bob Paris, Serge Nubret had it all day.
@@Gygsd big gut? Dexter? I don’t remember his stomach being that big. With stomach muscles that big I’m sure it’s gonna pull some. Lol idk. He always looked like he had perfect proportions. I didn’t know about his calves or arm.
And especially when one is ripped, meaning very low body fat. Very heavy weights (especially) for a long time combined with very low body fat is a disaster recipe.
Been lifting weights for the last 25 years and my observation has always been that form does matter to a point, but if one lifts excessive amount of weight for a long period of time form doesn't matter relating to your body's health. With that being said I have tons of respect for Ronnie, Dorian, and Cutler.
Lifting weights is funny once you think about it. Everybody goes to the gym to lift things lol Standing there lifting dumbbells 😆 Imagine a ufo lands outside a gym and the aliens go inside and see us. They'd be like, "???what the heck..."
Dexter has "the smarts"! Credit to him. One has to make sensible decisions. I would rather follow Dexter Jackson's route not Ronnie's. Dorian's choices were better than Ronnie's in terms of post competitive mobility. He only has multiple Olympia's "under his belt".
Ronnie may have won the Sandow 8 times in a row, but Lee Haney did it FIRST and that record has never been broken. To say Dexter winning it only once is a criticism, but you also need to remember he won it by competing against mass monsters with distended bellies, and never suffered a major injury like Ronnie and Dorian have. I’d rather be a Dexter Jackson than a Ronnie or Dorian.
On top of that look at their life after bodybuilding, Ronnie looks like he’s 20 years older than he is dexter looks 15 years younger than he is Not to mention all the pain and suffering Ronnie has gone through with years of surgeries, id rather be dexter Jackson over Ronnie Coleman any day
That’s because you aren’t a 1% like Ronnie. Mere mortals don’t understand what it takes to go down in history as the best bodybuilder that ever walked the planet.
Totally true....I’m 63 now....trained EXTREMELY heavy in my 20’s, 30’s and early 40’s.....now I’ve had both hips replaced. Fortunately I learned and now train intelligently....light weight, high volume, stretching etc. I feel bad for Ronnie Coleman....he can’t even stand now and he’s relatively young. Best wishes to all.
You're right. Handicapped and have to walk with forearm canes. That's just the beginning and he's only in mid 50s. Unbelievable. Do you have any pictures on Facebook showing your progress and currrent physical shape?
this man just taught me alot just from this video, definitely machines give so much ease than free weights especially amateurs have great risk of getting injured, i workout in an old gym and i see people with bad form always training trying to level up with heavy and end up no longer coming to gym due to straining wrong muscle groups
Nothing wrong with free weights. You just need to stay away from the singles, doubles, triples, and even five repetition sets. Higher repetitions with less weight baby.
@Shawn Cook how do you know what's worth it at the time things are going down? It's a little easier in retrospect. Until you take the big injury it's hard for these guys to know when to stop and to back off. For some it may be worth even if they know what's coming.
I am older now and have been working out practically all my life all through being an athlete as a football player and wrestler, and dabbling in powerlifting. Staying jacked takes so much from your body. It's really not worth it, because it's not a healthy lifestyle. Moderation is the way to go, and staying lean within ones BMI.
It's not free weights that messed up Ronnie it was the incredible amount of weight he worked out with. Even on machines the stress on muscles, joints, tendons and ligament is damaging! Even if Ronnie used machines he would still be in the same position he is now.
Dexter is perhaps the brightest and most refined bodybuilder. I met him in Belleville Michigan powerhouse gym nearly 20 years ago he shook my hand and was gracious ty buddy you're inspiring!!
Dex should have atleast 5 under his belt. He was one of the very few that wasn't walking around with roid gut. For multiple years these mass monsters were walking around looking pregnant while Dexter's waist and abs were very well conditioned, along with the rest of his body being damn near perfect.
@@SB-jn8cw still should have atleast five. And he didn't have a gut nowhere near Ronnie and other top teir guys. The only reason he didn't win was because in the middle part of his career all the judges cared about was who could get the biggest a freakiest looking. Dexter blew those guys away multiple times. Very underrated.
@@SB-jn8cw id have to say great. Being 50 at the 2020 Arnold and Olympia and looking the way he did. Dude is a savage and as I said before very underrated.
Dexters Focus was On Longevity I used to work construction and dishwashing and training 8 hours a day 6 days a week, with The Knowledge and wisdom I gained Over 8 years I know it would be ridiculous to continue that route especially after all that has been done and said hats off to all these bodybuilders but dexter the goat as well as Dorian and Ronny
I agree with dexter after 15 years of not lifting freeweights. I started machine workout and as i get older i focus more on being safe especially my back.
Dexter...made a huge huge huge point!!!!.... it's a mental thing.....from free weights to machines..... because it is easier on the joints and alot safer.... and at the same time if you want to go heavy on the machines you can do it in a much safer manner......and he is so friggin right your joints don't suffer as much as the free weights will do to your body......... Dexter is a friggin legend....... and let's not forget he was in both decades of competing with the best of the best.......Ronny coleman is a bodybuilding king 👑 of kings.... and yes it's sad to see him suffer the way that he has.....but if you ask him he has no regrets...... unbelievable mind set on Ronny and Dexter.....they are both such class acts.....
Because he kept it "lightweight".. did not go unnecessary "ALWAYS UNTIL FAILIURE BRUUUUH, 30sets per muscle group/workout määään, 6h working out per day" Just look at Jacksons physique now.. it's still awsm! No doubt he made the far superior choice in comparison to most.
Dexter,,is the humble, bodybuilder,,he chose the right path for himself, an inspiration for future young people to follow,live a long life, along with becoming a Champions..
I met Dexter Jackson. He looked like he could run n run fast if he wanted and he was just 2 weeks away from his last Mr. Olympia competition 😃 Dexter is the Bodybuilder everyone in the sport should strive to be!!! The nicest man to talk to too 🙏
I am not exactly sure about Ronnie, but Dorian says that he got his 2 injuries (the torn bicep in 94 and torn triceps in 97) because he was training at full intensity before contest while dieting and being dehydrated. Had he trained with less weight before contest, he might had retired injury-free.
@@Eternal-Seven Yeah, I've heard Dorian recently said that he was already somewhat tired of bodybuilding by 97, but in other interviews you can see that he definitely wanted to keep going. Just imagine if he never got any injuries and he eventually faced Ronnie Coleman in 98, that would have been epic.
@@Eternal-Seven I'm no where close to being even an amateur and I was so close to quitting bodybuilding for ever because of injuries I got because I was stupid,in this sport you gotta leave the ego at the door or you're eventually Gona hurt yourself so bad
I capped my strength off. 405 bench 550 squat and 315 clean. I focus on flexibility and gymnastic strength. I see guys at my gym benching 605 for reps hell of impressive but for me I’m cool.
ive preached free weights all my journey to people but now in my early 30s and want to keep my joints good so i use alot more machines now, i feel once you build a great foundation machines are almost as good
Like Flex Wheeler said in an interview ua-cam.com/video/IR0wpDns3Cs/v-deo.html not that long ago, back then the guys believed that they had to do as much weight as possible. Now that he's older he realized it's more about putting stress on the muscle than the amount of weight.
this has nothing to do with free weights. Ronnie and Dorian didn't know how to back off the poundage when dieting. Ronnie got injured cause he waited to start using gear until his 30s and was on that steroid high.
Most machines actually force your body in bad positions and can do more damage then free weights. So I don't agree entirely with him. Performing the exercives correct, even if it is a squat, deathlift, and not taking to much weight, having enough rest, stay away from doping, and you can have longetivity 2, AND build more functional strenght then with machines.
@@jdagreat4595 This opinion is actually scienced based. Just ask a medical expert about the biomechanical position machines like a legg extension bring u in. To be honest, machine that follow the natural movement patterns are rather an exception. Most of them. Force you in dangerous positions. Jackson is no proof what so ever, we call that anecdotical. There are also people that smoked 3 packs a day and live to see 100 without any health problems, that doesn't proof smoking is not dangerous. I would rather attribute Jackson longevity (in fact he isn't even that old) to more repetitions, lesser weight, genetic components. He just didn't do a demolition job on his body like most bodybuilders from that day did.
@@skullleaderx4986 I agree, there are good machines, the trick is that they should follow the natural movement of the body. I'm not sure all nautilus do that. But then there still is the problem that machines don't train functional strenght, coordination and stabilty as well as free weights. I guess for bodybuilders that's not so much an issue, but I like to have strenght I can actually use in real life.
Longevity should always be at the forefront of every athletes mind and implementing the protocols to keep you running at optimal performance. Know when to hold them and know when to fold them.
Depends what you want to do, achieve. Go for it, no regrets or wondering‘what if’, it’s moot and ultimately useless. Well done Dexter, he was always on point imho
The thing is that the hardness, density and muscle quality that Dorian for instance exhibited in his career can only be attained with heavy lifting from free weights. There is always a trade off to everything.
I competed for state bench press and in my federation held the record for 5 years but overtime I’ve learned to train smart and hard and not just hard. The idea is to do it for the long run.
No lies told here...I gave up bench, squat and DL years ago and have never been better. I am even stronger than I was 10 yrs ago. It's the mentality that will be your biggest hurdle. It was hard giving up the big 3.
Very sad to see how Ronnie turned out, but Dexter just proves that you can use machines and look amazing and above all have longevity and good health in the sport of body building.only one win....so what! He's always going to be a legend.
ronnie is old school. Lift heavy! thats the fun. I dont really bodybuildy but the only thing that keeps me in the gym is the fundamentals in powerlifting. Me and people like ronnie started off competing at powerlifting meets
I’ve been lifting weights 5 days a week for 20yrs mostly with free weights but 2 yrs ago when I turned 40 I made the shift to mostly machines for the exact same reason,the older I got the easier it seemed to collect injuries that just don’t heal the same anymore
I find it very strange that nobody mentions ronnies family in these videos. Most people in his family have had the exact same surgeries for hip replacement that he has. I’ve only heard Ronnie talk about it once. Meanwhile people are trying to decode why Ronnie is injured. He exacerbated conditions that he already had genetically.
I think more than anything, if you're talking about non-professional lifting... It depends on what your accessory movements and recovery days look like in regards to how your joints and body respond. It also depends on intention. You can go much lighter, but if your intention of the movement is to move the weight(while keeping control) as quickly and forcefully as possible, you'll still increase muscle mass and build a lot of strength without the need to put excessive strain on the joints themselves. I think intention within the immediate movement is a big part of lifting that is extremely under-discussed. Are you moving slow and controlled? Are you going through movements? Are you trying to explode as hard as you possibly can? All of these different things create a different neurological synapse. I also think contracted stretching is extremely overlooked(i.e. You contract your entire leg prior to attempting a toe touch). Stretching like this stretches the muscle itself, while allowing the ligaments and insertion of tendons to remain taunt, thus reducing the chance of joint injuries overall by improving blood flow to the connective tissues while maintaining structural stability. There's a lot of facets in the human body that are either dismissed or ignored due to pop culture or the community of specific sports. I think it's important if we all learn and discuss every modality possible so we can all achieve our goals and maintain strength and conditioning well into the later years of life. Rather than thinking a single mentality is the only effective method. Dexter here clearly shows you don't have to follow the herd to be absolutely fantastic.
I’m 58 and I have been training 42 years. I prolapsed a disc deadlifting with improper form when I was 20 (showing off how strong I was) and it taught me a valuable lesson. It took me 2 years to recover post surgery and learn how to train for longevity. I’m training 3-4x a week now with 50-75% of my peak weights but at higher reps (10-15 versus 6-8) with much better form and totally focused on the feeling. The results are fantastic. You can train forever if you can avoid injury and focus on the feeling.
I’ve trained next to dex and Charles at golds and his entire approach was just super smart and impressive in a safe and strong way…most ppl would prob have dexters physique in his prime than many others
He’s right. Heavy weight is really not good on the body. Eddie hall said when he did the 500kg deadlift, he felt his bones compressing under the weight. He said it was a feeling he’s never ever got before ever and it was impossible to describe and could only summarise it with that he felt them compress. That’s absolutely insane. People just think lifting heavy weight is the same no matter how heavy. It’s really not, your body really starts to do some peculiar stuff under huge weight. Ask any strongman.
I been training over 25 years with no serious injuries and completely agree that machines are definitely better for longevity. I’m natty af not big or jacked I just love working out
A friend of Colemsn's recommended a certain surgeon who turned out to be not so great. Without the botched surgeries Coleman wouldn't have the sorts of body problems he has today. He is handling his situation amazingly well, though.
The blade used to train for competition season then he would take a ton of time off and completely heal. Then he'd gradually work back into it. Seemed to work for him, he got one Mr. O title
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3 times a day or 3 times a week, you mean?
Nahh Ronnie is a power lifter at heart. He Enjoyed pushing his limits in lifting just as much as he enjoyed the way he looked and felt on stage.
Dexter may not have been as big as Ronnie, but his proportions, symmetry and condition was simply unreal
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Yeah, but also Phil. And Dorian had unbelievable condition in 1996. The strongest point of Dexter isn't that, but aesthetics lines and structure.
Dexs also 230lbs and hot smoked by ronnie and Dorian
24/7
Yeah especially his arms 😜
Dexter throughout his career put on 50+lbs of muscle but a very gradual pace.He never got sloppy during the off season,he trained smart and learned how to put the most tension on the muscle (thanks to Charles Glass) and when he started working with George Farah for his conditioning,he was a revelation.Dexter at his best is pure aesthetics.His physique was ahead of its time.He never caved to the bigger is better crowd.
If you are trying to say any single IFBB pro BB in open makes a conscious decision to carry less muscle than their competitors then that is a misunderstanding. Does it really look like Dexter Jackson was sparing any effort to put as much muscle as humanly possible on his body, I mean sure if you mean, he wasn't getting as high of BF in the off season then yes, but any open competitor is trying to be as muscular as physically possible.
@@FeralFlareMasterYi He's said that he couldve easily put on at least 20lbs more of muscle but that doing so quickly would blow out his proportions.I think its 2014 or 2015 that he showed what working with George Farah brought to his physique.He massed up but was fucking shredded.Glutes,hamstrings,and lowerback were bonkers. I mean watch him on stage.He always looked fresh faced and never looked winded from the mandatory's.Other pros be putting on weight so fast that they develop sleep apnea and need a machine to help them breathe.
@@valasuenos475 That is valid, I'm just wondering how did he know that he could have done that? Was he taking X amount less gear that cost him 20 lbs of muscle gain. Was he lifting X less weight that he knows over time would have yielded him 20 more lbs. Seems like there is something to it and statements are statements, but it just seems a little coulda shoulda to me.
@@FeralFlareMasterYi This could be a rumor but Dexter's drug use was relatively tame compared to most pros.Hes got that light bone structure like Flex Wheeler had.Just made him look freakier.I think its more of getting tests done to see his muscle composition and when you're at that level you know every inch of your physique and what can go where.Then again I believe he did it for health as well as aesthetic reasons.Hes smaller so he doesn't need as much pure bulk.Think of smaller bodybuilders,think of Lee Priest or Rich Gaspari.Rich Gaspari actually decided to lose muscle and mass in order to compete.Lee Priest actually beat Ronnie one time I think.Dexter beat Cutler.Now Im not gonna deny that Cutler came back the next year looking like a fucking Trex lol it can be done though and Dexter routinely did so.
@Vala Suenos and @Feral Flare Master Yi 2014, hats off to you both for carrying a respectful conversation with each other like men (or adults, not to assume) It’s very rare to see nowadays in any comment section. Respect! 👊🏾
I am a medical professional and have enjoyed bodybuilding all my life. Heavy weights wear joint's prematurely. Fat people carry heavy body weight and have joint problems. It wear's the joints my friends. Exercise is great but anything excess get's results. How much do you want to pay ? I believe Ronnie gave everything and would do it again. This is why I am not competitive but love the sport. It's a true joy for me at age 54 to train with my 16, 20 and 22 year old sons. These times are better than stepping on the stage.
A real Dream.
1:57 Ronnie regrets what he has done to his body. Anyone is going to lie to keep their image up. He has a supplement company now; he will say and sell anything; including fat burner cream.
Ronnie is crippled from a combination of heavy drug use which eats your tendons & ligaments away when you run gear non stop for 25 years, along with lifting too heavy, the combination is a dead end road.
@@edmeyer4800 ronnie even had genetic problem on hips he said it was descendent in his family
How about isometrics like for example pushing a wall with full force is that bad for joints too like the knees hips and elbows?
I just turned 41 and still lift pretty heavy. Regularly squat 405, deadlift 405, bench 315. That said, I recently switched to Smith Machine for my bench snd have been considering taking my squat and deads down. I also have been incorporating more machines into my workouts. As you get older those injuries and mistakes are less forgiving.
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Stop the cap lol
not only that, your joints only have so much cartilage to grind out.
I think the squat is worse on the smith machine.
@@The11thDimension91 Smith Machine will fuck your back up for sure.
true brilliance in switching to mostly machines. the slight difference in physiques only matters if you are on the stage at the elite levels. If you are a regular person, normal athlete, then take Dex's advice and make the changes. You will be able to workout well into your 60's that way. I am almost 50 and training harder than guys half my age. But only because I took out my ego and added stabilizing work. Great info!
Tbh it's fine to just use free weights if you are doing regular workouts, why Ronnie and the others got injured is because they were using weights above the limit of their body. Roids were also a problem, they stimulate muscle growth but do nothing for tendons.
@@Kuroganemk2 Yes, thank you. I was saying this to myself through out the video. Nothing wrong with free weights as long as you use proper form and stay natty. lol
I'm not a sports medicine man but wouldn't that just apply lifting too heavy whether it's machine or not?
@@unknownx7252 Think most of those injuries come from losing the grip, did you see the sizes of those dumbells some of those guys use? One wrong move and they going to twist something. Machines isolate a lot so you just pull or push with no wobble action between.
biggest bullshit you can ever do lol. stick to free weights, avoid machines as much as you can no matter what ur age is.
I'm 30... And I'm definitely going take heed to this knowledge. Because I'm not trying to be broke down in the long run
If aesthetics was the golden standard by which bodybuilding was judged Dexter would have rated higher than Ronnie, no doubts, bodybuilders like Bob Paris, Serge Nubret had it all day.
Lol dexter had a couple years where his turtle shell gut was as bad or worse then Ronnie’s
Flex wheeler as well. If we’re talking about aesthetics. Shawn ray, lee labrada. Dexter was ripped and perfect proportions, size and density.
@@talkingcrypto5944 perfect proportions ? fake calves one arm bigger then the other and big gut is perfect proportions
@@Gygsd big gut? Dexter? I don’t remember his stomach being that big. With stomach muscles that big I’m sure it’s gonna pull some. Lol idk. He always looked like he had perfect proportions. I didn’t know about his calves or arm.
Nobody passes FLEX WHEELER
Dexter is absolutely correct, working out with extremely weight is murder on the body, especially as you get older....
And especially when one is ripped, meaning very low body fat. Very heavy weights (especially) for a long time combined with very low body fat is a disaster recipe.
😅😅😅😅 how much Olympia he win
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe Doesn't matter....
@@cnwil4594 ehy it doesn't matter go into any corner of the world and ask who is Ronnie Coleman
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe Still doesn't matter.... Everyone doesn't know Coleman and have no interest in a superficial activity - SMH
Been lifting weights for the last 25 years and my observation has always been that form does matter to a point, but if one lifts excessive amount of weight for a long period of time form doesn't matter relating to your body's health. With that being said I have tons of respect for Ronnie, Dorian, and Cutler.
Lifting weights is funny once you think about it. Everybody goes to the gym to lift things lol
Standing there lifting dumbbells 😆
Imagine a ufo lands outside a gym and the aliens go inside and see us. They'd be like, "???what the heck..."
I am not even 25 now 🐕🐕
Smart man. Gotta love his respect for Dorian and Ronnie at the same time that he sees their mistakes.
At his age. He can still go enjoy life.
Dexter has "the smarts"! Credit to him.
One has to make sensible decisions. I would rather follow Dexter Jackson's route not Ronnie's.
Dorian's choices were better than Ronnie's in terms of post competitive mobility. He only has multiple Olympia's "under his belt".
all respect to the blade , a living legend , wishing u all the best dexter .
Dex is smart. Machines are designed for reason. 👍🏾
Ronnie may have won the Sandow 8 times in a row, but Lee Haney did it FIRST and that record has never been broken. To say Dexter winning it only once is a criticism, but you also need to remember he won it by competing against mass monsters with distended bellies, and never suffered a major injury like Ronnie and Dorian have. I’d rather be a Dexter Jackson than a Ronnie or Dorian.
Dexter Jackson has the most 2nd places of any bodybuilder in HISTORY. .
On top of that look at their life after bodybuilding, Ronnie looks like he’s 20 years older than he is dexter looks 15 years younger than he is
Not to mention all the pain and suffering Ronnie has gone through with years of surgeries, id rather be dexter Jackson over Ronnie Coleman any day
That’s because you aren’t a 1% like Ronnie. Mere mortals don’t understand what it takes to go down in history as the best bodybuilder that ever walked the planet.
Totally true....I’m 63 now....trained EXTREMELY heavy in my 20’s, 30’s and early 40’s.....now I’ve had both hips replaced. Fortunately I learned and now train intelligently....light weight, high volume, stretching etc. I feel bad for Ronnie Coleman....he can’t even stand now and he’s relatively young. Best wishes to all.
You're right. Handicapped and have to walk with forearm canes. That's just the beginning and he's only in mid 50s. Unbelievable. Do you have any pictures on Facebook showing your progress and currrent physical shape?
You can't directly blame your training style though. There's sedentary people who had the same surgeries.
fool he is 8 x mr Olympia, if he puts one booth he will made thousands
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe go back to sleep kid 😝
i trained heavy in 20s but in my late 30s i got my first injuries EVER. i now train smarter and i wear a weightlifting belt on every session now.
this man just taught me alot just from this video, definitely machines give so much ease than free weights especially amateurs have great risk of getting injured, i workout in an old gym and i see people with bad form always training trying to level up with heavy and end up no longer coming to gym due to straining wrong muscle groups
Nothing wrong with free weights.
You just need to stay away from the singles, doubles, triples, and even five repetition sets.
Higher repetitions with less weight baby.
Something you love, shouldn't maim or kill you. I'm with Jackson on this. Do it for the love of the sport and the art, not just to win competitions.
“And that is why no one will remember your name”
He's actually fully crippled.
@Shawn Cook all the greats of anything great. Investors, athletes, etc. risked it all. Only .001 percent will understand or apply.
@Shawn Cook how do you know what's worth it at the time things are going down? It's a little easier in retrospect. Until you take the big injury it's hard for these guys to know when to stop and to back off. For some it may be worth even if they know what's coming.
@@blair2395 yours neither 👍
I think the most important thing when training is how I will be when I get old.
staying natural is the most important. then nutrition. without healthy organs, mechanical aspects like ligaments and joints dont matter.
I am older now and have been working out practically all my life all through being an athlete as a football player and wrestler, and dabbling in powerlifting. Staying jacked takes so much from your body. It's really not worth it, because it's not a healthy lifestyle. Moderation is the way to go, and staying lean within ones BMI.
Dexter had the most pleasing physique full stop.
right dexter and flex wheeler
As someone that never did “bodybuilding training” and started with powerlifting. It’s 100 percent a mental thing. Something i struggle with right now.
Honestly, if you were to give me any body of an Olympian that I can remember, Dexters is up there. Symmetry and proportions were near perfect.
So why didn't he win more Olympia's???
Because it became a freakshow
Dorian was training 3 x week not 3 x a day .. just for the reference.
No hate just correcting ❤️🙋🏻♂️✝️
yeh I thought that was crazy, 3 times a day, I just give up
@@Pastor_Sempa 😂me too😭
3x a day at 20 min sessions each would still be better than 1 3 hr session IMO.
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It's not free weights that messed up Ronnie it was the incredible amount of weight he worked out with. Even on machines the stress on muscles, joints, tendons and ligament is damaging! Even if Ronnie used machines he would still be in the same position he is now.
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Dexter is perhaps the brightest and most refined bodybuilder. I met him in Belleville Michigan powerhouse gym nearly 20 years ago he shook my hand and was gracious ty buddy you're inspiring!!
It's NOT WORTH the sacrifice of your HEALTH!
I'm happy too see Ronnie Coleman still working out,I hope he never lets it go
I agree... I find it amazing seeing ppl squat crazy heavy and deadlift till their spine snaps and they do it just because... crazy
Dex should have atleast 5 under his belt. He was one of the very few that wasn't walking around with roid gut. For multiple years these mass monsters were walking around looking pregnant while Dexter's waist and abs were very well conditioned, along with the rest of his body being damn near perfect.
Dex's gut was just as bad as a lot of the other guys. It became very noticable whenever he lifted his arms up
@@SB-jn8cw still should have atleast five. And he didn't have a gut nowhere near Ronnie and other top teir guys. The only reason he didn't win was because in the middle part of his career all the judges cared about was who could get the biggest a freakiest looking. Dexter blew those guys away multiple times. Very underrated.
@@EIRE1980 Dex was good do not misunderstand me, he was outsized like you said.
@@SB-jn8cw id have to say great. Being 50 at the 2020 Arnold and Olympia and looking the way he did. Dude is a savage and as I said before very underrated.
@@SB-jn8cw Then the same case could be made for Shawn Ray.
You dont need to lift super heavy to build muscle, train to failure and keep the at at about 12 - 15 and you will be okay
Not at their level. To be average; yeah it’s ok
@@phoenixrisin2269 you ain't getting to there level without good genetics and alot of gear.
Excellent video. Very even-handed commentary.
Dexters Focus was On Longevity I used to work construction and dishwashing and training 8 hours a day 6 days a week, with The Knowledge and wisdom I gained Over 8 years I know it would be ridiculous to continue that route especially after all that has been done and said hats off to all these bodybuilders but dexter the goat as well as Dorian and Ronny
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I agree with dexter after 15 years of not lifting freeweights. I started machine workout and as i get older i focus more on being safe especially my back.
Most common consensus is that free weights give less injuries. This is jaw dropping for me.
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Dexter is absolutely right
Dexter...made a huge huge huge point!!!!.... it's a mental thing.....from free weights to machines..... because it is easier on the joints and alot safer.... and at the same time if you want to go heavy on the machines you can do it in a much safer manner......and he is so friggin right your joints don't suffer as much as the free weights will do to your body......... Dexter is a friggin legend....... and let's not forget he was in both decades of competing with the best of the best.......Ronny coleman is a bodybuilding king 👑 of kings.... and yes it's sad to see him suffer the way that he has.....but if you ask him he has no regrets...... unbelievable mind set on Ronny and Dexter.....they are both such class acts.....
yeah and the drawback is, you dont get as big and get destroyed on stage.
I’m pretty sure it’s as obvious as “LIGHTWEIGHT BABYYY” ??? No spine is taking what Ronnie does
Because he kept it "lightweight".. did not go unnecessary "ALWAYS UNTIL FAILIURE BRUUUUH, 30sets per muscle group/workout määään, 6h working out per day"
Just look at Jacksons physique now.. it's still awsm! No doubt he made the far superior choice in comparison to most.
"No pain no gain braaaaa
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Beautiful physique - not grotesque like many in Open. Class act!
Dexter,,is the humble, bodybuilder,,he chose the right path for himself, an inspiration for future young people to follow,live a long life, along with becoming a Champions..
He should also explain why he doesn’t even have half the trophies Ronnie has: GOAT!
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very intellegent man
I met Dexter Jackson. He looked like he could run n run fast if he wanted and he was just 2 weeks away from his last Mr. Olympia competition 😃
Dexter is the Bodybuilder everyone in the sport should strive to be!!!
The nicest man to talk to too 🙏
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I am not exactly sure about Ronnie, but Dorian says that he got his 2 injuries (the torn bicep in 94 and torn triceps in 97) because he was training at full intensity before contest while dieting and being dehydrated. Had he trained with less weight before contest, he might had retired injury-free.
450 pound underhand bent over row is insane! That tore his biceps
Or he wouldn't have retired. He literally had to retire because of the injuries.
@@Eternal-Seven Yeah, I've heard Dorian recently said that he was already somewhat tired of bodybuilding by 97, but in other interviews you can see that he definitely wanted to keep going. Just imagine if he never got any injuries and he eventually faced Ronnie Coleman in 98, that would have been epic.
@@ElizondoAbelardo being hurt and unable to train at your potential is enough to make even a champ retire. Dorian was my favorite
@@Eternal-Seven I'm no where close to being even an amateur and I was so close to quitting bodybuilding for ever because of injuries I got because I was stupid,in this sport you gotta leave the ego at the door or you're eventually Gona hurt yourself so bad
I capped my strength off. 405 bench 550 squat and 315 clean. I focus on flexibility and gymnastic strength. I see guys at my gym benching 605 for reps hell of impressive but for me I’m cool.
What about switching to pure calisthenics after a certain age
ive preached free weights all my journey to people but now in my early 30s and want to keep my joints good so i use alot more machines now, i feel once you build a great foundation machines are almost as good
Like Flex Wheeler said in an interview ua-cam.com/video/IR0wpDns3Cs/v-deo.html not that long ago, back then the guys believed that they had to do as much weight as possible. Now that he's older he realized it's more about putting stress on the muscle than the amount of weight.
this has nothing to do with free weights. Ronnie and Dorian didn't know how to back off the poundage when dieting. Ronnie got injured cause he waited to start using gear until his 30s and was on that steroid high.
This. Plus Dorian trained with a lot of machines so it cant be blamed on free weights.
The guys on gear are also lifting more weight than their bodies would naturally be able to handle. That also will cause more wear and tear over time.
Only a fool would believe Ronnie wasn't on gear before his 30s 😅
@@edmeyer4800 agree lol
Ronnie also had a lot of injuries before he even took up bodybuilding, so the cracks in his frame got more pronounced as he got bigger and older.
Most machines actually force your body in bad positions and can do more damage then free weights. So I don't agree entirely with him. Performing the exercives correct, even if it is a squat, deathlift, and not taking to much weight, having enough rest, stay away from doping, and you can have longetivity 2, AND build more functional strenght then with machines.
😭 your opinion isn’t facts thou just that opinion.. dex is proof of machine are good for body ..
@@jdagreat4595 This opinion is actually scienced based. Just ask a medical expert about the biomechanical position machines like a legg extension bring u in. To be honest, machine that follow the natural movement patterns are rather an exception. Most of them. Force you in dangerous positions. Jackson is no proof what so ever, we call that anecdotical. There are also people that smoked 3 packs a day and live to see 100 without any health problems, that doesn't proof smoking is not dangerous. I would rather attribute Jackson longevity (in fact he isn't even that old) to more repetitions, lesser weight, genetic components. He just didn't do a demolition job on his body like most bodybuilders from that day did.
Depends on the exercise and the body part and not all machines are created equal. Nautilus machines are safer than most
@@skullleaderx4986 I agree, there are good machines, the trick is that they should follow the natural movement of the body. I'm not sure all nautilus do that. But then there still is the problem that machines don't train functional strenght, coordination and stabilty as well as free weights. I guess for bodybuilders that's not so much an issue, but I like to have strenght I can actually use in real life.
Longevity should always be at the forefront of every athletes mind and implementing the protocols to keep you running at optimal performance.
Know when to hold them and know when to fold them.
Everyone chooses what works for them. Dexter did his thing and those others did theirs.
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Depends what you want to do, achieve. Go for it, no regrets or wondering‘what if’, it’s moot and ultimately useless. Well done Dexter, he was always on point imho
I loved your thoughts in this issue
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The thing is that the hardness, density and muscle quality that Dorian for instance exhibited in his career can only be attained with heavy lifting from free weights. There is always a trade off to everything.
Yes absolutely well said. At this top level its all about weights
I competed for state bench press and in my federation held the record for 5 years but overtime I’ve learned to train smart and hard and not just hard. The idea is to do it for the long run.
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So great for so long, damn near perfect, Dexter is the real thing!
The blade..love his symmetry…imma mix machines in my routine..my joints do hurt lifting heavy free weights…
He might not have trained so heavy but to be on heavy gear for so many years it's a miracle that he's alive and well!
He said in a interview that he gets his bloodwork done every 3 months
@@MAHONEYDRO That's good but not enough. Most of them have severe heart issues, SOB and mental problems!
No lies told here...I gave up bench, squat and DL years ago and have never been better. I am even stronger than I was 10 yrs ago. It's the mentality that will be your biggest hurdle. It was hard giving up the big 3.
What exercises did you replace them with if you don’t mind sharing?
Very sad to see how Ronnie turned out, but Dexter just proves that you can use machines and look amazing and above all have longevity and good health in the sport of body building.only one win....so what! He's always going to be a legend.
ronnie is old school. Lift heavy! thats the fun. I dont really bodybuildy but the only thing that keeps me in the gym is the fundamentals in powerlifting. Me and people like ronnie started off competing at powerlifting meets
I’ve been lifting weights 5 days a week for 20yrs mostly with free weights but 2 yrs ago when I turned 40 I made the shift to mostly machines for the exact same reason,the older I got the easier it seemed to collect injuries that just don’t heal the same anymore
i enjoy machine work a lot…definitely can still go heavy and it’s much safer.
Narrator: "He sometimes only trained 3 times a day."
Me: Only 3 a day as if that wasn't beyond impressive.
I think he meant week (judging by the high intensity philosophy Yates followed)
I find it very strange that nobody mentions ronnies family in these videos. Most people in his family have had the exact same surgeries for hip replacement that he has. I’ve only heard Ronnie talk about it once. Meanwhile people are trying to decode why Ronnie is injured. He exacerbated conditions that he already had genetically.
He has stated that his back has had problems since he played football as a teen.
And his first op, the screws sheared off and damaged his back more causing severe nerve damage and loss of feeling down his leg
Then he should have been more careful knowing his limits due to these facts
I think more than anything, if you're talking about non-professional lifting... It depends on what your accessory movements and recovery days look like in regards to how your joints and body respond. It also depends on intention. You can go much lighter, but if your intention of the movement is to move the weight(while keeping control) as quickly and forcefully as possible, you'll still increase muscle mass and build a lot of strength without the need to put excessive strain on the joints themselves. I think intention within the immediate movement is a big part of lifting that is extremely under-discussed. Are you moving slow and controlled? Are you going through movements? Are you trying to explode as hard as you possibly can? All of these different things create a different neurological synapse.
I also think contracted stretching is extremely overlooked(i.e. You contract your entire leg prior to attempting a toe touch). Stretching like this stretches the muscle itself, while allowing the ligaments and insertion of tendons to remain taunt, thus reducing the chance of joint injuries overall by improving blood flow to the connective tissues while maintaining structural stability.
There's a lot of facets in the human body that are either dismissed or ignored due to pop culture or the community of specific sports. I think it's important if we all learn and discuss every modality possible so we can all achieve our goals and maintain strength and conditioning well into the later years of life. Rather than thinking a single mentality is the only effective method. Dexter here clearly shows you don't have to follow the herd to be absolutely fantastic.
Dexter is a alien, his conditionning was unreal, Ronnie still legendary X8 MO.
I’m 58 and I have been training 42 years. I prolapsed a disc deadlifting with improper form when I was 20 (showing off how strong I was) and it taught me a valuable lesson. It took me 2 years to recover post surgery and learn how to train for longevity.
I’m training 3-4x a week now with 50-75% of my peak weights but at higher reps (10-15 versus 6-8) with much better form and totally focused on the feeling. The results are fantastic.
You can train forever if you can avoid injury and focus on the feeling.
I’ve trained next to dex and Charles at golds and his entire approach was just super smart and impressive in a safe and strong way…most ppl would prob have dexters physique in his prime than many others
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Hardly anyone will have Dexters physique. It’s about genetics
The fat burner cream gives me a good laugh lol
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I'm a fan of machine work vs free weights but I like certain movements on free weights especially for leg days...
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It’s all about longevity. Lifting for a lifetime is important. As important as the accolades and the glory.
Dexter is da GOAT. Health is wealth
Some of the best advice on the net regarding weight training. Leave your ego at the door
Machines are a blessing
Most training methods have their merits, just like most have their shortfalls
He’s right. Heavy weight is really not good on the body. Eddie hall said when he did the 500kg deadlift, he felt his bones compressing under the weight. He said it was a feeling he’s never ever got before ever and it was impossible to describe and could only summarise it with that he felt them compress. That’s absolutely insane. People just think lifting heavy weight is the same no matter how heavy. It’s really not, your body really starts to do some peculiar stuff under huge weight. Ask any strongman.
huh? SOP all those steroids and GH hes taking and took for decades is ok on the body? LMFAO
Most regular gymrats will never get strong enough to worry about "heavy weights".
Never heard Brian Shaw complain
Totally agree with Dexter I'm 53 been working out since 20 ,as you get older you definitely have to switch up
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Longevity is better than all titles. Great health at end is what’s important
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Don’t train like the greats…can not be like the greats. It depends what you want.
You only know when you cross the line…when you cross it.
Hell, he is one of the greats
I been training over 25 years with no serious injuries and completely agree that machines are definitely better for longevity. I’m natty af not big or jacked I just love working out
legend! in my eyes he won it 10 in row
Dexter's still huge man.
A friend of Colemsn's recommended a certain surgeon who turned out to be not so great. Without the botched surgeries Coleman wouldn't have the sorts of body problems he has today.
He is handling his situation amazingly well, though.
Its great that Ronnie won 8 Sandows but his quality of life now has suffered from all those 800 pound squats.
Dexter. Longevity is key.
There aren’t 2 many Ronnie’s and Darian’s that’s why their so cherished and admired.
But Dexter has always been a smaller bodybuilder in my eyes. The machines are safe but if you wanna get bigger you gotta do free weights
I agree a 100% machines are much safer than freewaits especially when you start loading on that weight
I fucking admire Dex. True legend!
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Also, I want to know the way that he Cycled his PEDs to last so long in bodybuilding without damaging his organs - his health in general.
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He would always take a months off
From lifting and gear use, Kevin did the same.
@@edmeyer4800 how do you know?
Dorian Yates winning the Olympia was the beginning of the demise of Bodybuilding.
For me Dexter always had the best physique, he was robbed of many sandows
The blade used to train for competition season then he would take a ton of time off and completely heal. Then he'd gradually work back into it. Seemed to work for him, he got one Mr. O title
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Damn that sshhh pic of Dorian is such a classic
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