Man, that message about being positive is so important. I cannot understate how much of an improvement in mood I've had since I started complimenting my opponent on a round well won, or a whiff well punished. It's made the game infinitely more enjoyable.
Sometimes I lean back and say “damn, you got me good bro gg” feels good when you recognize that your opponent didnt just get lucky or was scrubby, but actually out played you, you learn a lot about yourself and why you got outplayed like that, usually when I look back im like “damn I was spamming this same string too much, should had mixed it up”
A Steve I beat in a ditto in ranked messaged me saying ggs and he was gonna steal my tech, was the most positive interaction I’ve had in online tekken lol
I love getting beaten by a better player, I always hold my hands up and say well played. What I can’t stand is people mashing the same cheap moves and I only have 3 rounds to pick up on what they are doing before they beat me and leave
I understand but you need to relax and try to learn their patterns because they only doing flowchart and 3 rounds is plenty of time to learn and if you loose it doesn’t matter there is replay and you will face the same character and you will be ready
_I must not tilt._ _Tilt is the Prog-Killer._ _Tilt is the Skill-Issue that brings LowTierCrashouts._ _I will soothe my Tilt._ _I will permit it to seethe out of me and through me._ _And when I boot up the game next time, I will have adapted and have the reads._ _Where the Tilt has soothed there will be focus. Only Skill will remain._
I'll never forget when I first learned how to deal with Lucky Chloe low, mid, low, mid infinite kick spam in Tekken 7. It was a quick tournament, I faced her, she destroyed me, and I was so pissed I looked up the counter in the match off times while I fought my way up the loser bracket. I faced her in the final, parried the low, she tried it two more times getting parried both times, then there was an awkward pause-.......She LITERALLY had no idea what to do now that I had an answer from the one cheese they had. So bloody satisfying.
Yes dude lol. I just loved when I face a Lucy Cloe player, on call, each other been able to hear the other, and then the player trying this low mid low mid, and I just countering. I remember he just saying: Noooo, I can't do this with you, u know how to counter, bro is a monster lol.
@@jesse76th96 bro you said the system was broken I didn’t say that. I enjoy playing the game but certain players do just 50/50 all game and that’s not really a balanced game. Especially if I guess wrong twice and die.
Bro it helps humanize your opponent. One of my homeboys plays Lars and we all know Lars is more annoying than op. Sometimes I get caught in his DEN low loops and instead of getting pissy, I just gotta give credit. He forced me to respect his mid threats out of the stance and then killed me lows. What’s harder to respect is DEN 3 being a forced mix up on block, but that’s not his fault lol
13:25 yesterday I got outplayed by a fcking ALISA (she actually played super well and fundamental) and shortly after played against a cr4ckhead autoplay kazuya. felt like I was in some kind of alternative dimension lol
Then what does that say about your defense? 😂😂 Lmao the irony of your comment is hilarious to me. Because if you know anything at all about how Ling works, which I'm assuming you don't since you'd get beat up by a Ling with 38 defense, she has to be very defensive to be evasive and tricky, and to pull off half of her offense. If you getting "spammed" by a Xiaoyu, that's genuinely on you.
@@raycharles6258you got off? That's how you suck at the game. Because instead of going to your replays and learning how to defend against her because it's VERY possible, you get off the game. Lol. You'd never get better with this mindset. It's similar to me how people complain to much about Alisa players.... Like bro ever since I started learning her and labbing against her, I haven't lost to a single Alisa player since. Meeting very good, defensive Alisa players is rare, so when I do encounter one, they're just doing predictable flow charts that I can defend against, since I leaned her moves. It's as simple as that.
@@VillainessAO ummm, dude I was relating to the comment😭 it’s never that serious but you got it twin. I don’t really play tekken, I enjoy it. I be on 2k bruh🤣🤣🤣🤣
I playing this one dude, he was punishing everything and knew his matchups. But instead of raging, I focus on doing what worked for me and It helped. I was able to complement his game and I got better for those losses.
@@spectraphantom777that's just not true... No matter how cheesey u have to atleast some grasp of fundamental to get good at the game... Trust me coming from someone who's abused king's cheese and plateaued for a while in red ranks until actually learning how to play the game to improve
what pisses me off is not the cheese, lag or plugg, its when you have those sessions where you keep guessing more wrong, and to add more salt to it is when the opponent keep guessing right. that s* fkin tilting.
Tekken 8 is one of the first fight games I actually dedicated time to learning, because of exactly the reasons your stating makes it a rage fest. The ability to win as a newbie is fun, you’re motivated to learn why law just ran at you and kicked you into the wall 5 times in a row. I play this with my friends almost every night, and each time someone becomes dominant because they put the pieces together of what we have been doing to win. I think it’s a great game if you have the time to put into it.
Gotta say MainMan, I've been watching your videos for about 4 years now and it's great to see how you've grown as a content creator and as a person. Really enjoy watching your stuff, dude. I hope you get to keep doing this into the foreseeable future.
The only thing that makes me rage are missed inputs. I cannot count the times a throw would win me the match, but instead of doing the command throw, the character does a jumping punch instead and gets floored. I may hit one of the buttons 1 frame before the other, which produces the wrong attack. I may want to roll to the left, but I hit the wrong button and roll to the right. I may want to do quarter circle forward to clear the distance, surprise the opponent and maybe get a hit, but instead my character ducks. I think I've lost over 50% of my matches simply because my hands does something different from what my mind intended, and that can make me scream. That said, this problem has gotten a lot better, and I'm now a lot calmer. I make less mistakes, and even if I make some, I now know it's possible to get good at this, so there's no need to stress out. Just use the replay function, try to stay calm and stop thinking about winning.
7:02 That happens completely naturally for me. I get tilted and then for maybe a week I dont want to queue up because I remember my last experience, until enough time has passed, where my mental is reset.
@ Yes but you need to do a really well timed step, RIGHT before he releases it, which can be tricky because the Devil Jin can mix up the timing on you. Edit : I also forgot to mention that he can also cancel it into Mourning Crow. I’ve seen Devil Jin’s do db1+2 into Mourning Crow into 2,2, trying to take advantage of the opponent trying to press something.
This exactly what I’ve been doing to not only get better myself but also help my opponent/friends in the lobby. MMS said “you’re not as good as you think you are”, I remind myself of that and also give my opponent their props too.
I wish more of the online community was positive and friendly. The game is hard enough without getting kicked, ignored, or called names. The negativity happens way more than it should in my opinion
Thank you for this message. I'm also struggling with spammers especially alisa, yoshi, hwoarang and nina. It's frustating. But now I will focus to learn, I will let go the emotion.
Last weekend I came back after a 2 month break, and I played online for 4 hours without tilting or even getting noticably upset. I had completely forgotten how to play my character, but I still had fun the whole time. I'm not sure I needed THAT long of a break, but taking a week off or something like that can definitely help with a more positive mental state.
I have found it IMMENSELY helpful to send a message to someone after a match is over if I appreciate a play that they made during the game. I am a Tenryu Bryan, and it's almost funny how nobody in red ranks know how to respond to receiving positive feedback for their gameplay.
Red ranks is a cesspool of people that’s salty they can’t get out of red. Most of the red rank cheesed their way through so they get upset when someone with common sense outplays them
This is a refreshing video. I'm currently on a break from the game, because getting good at defense is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do in all of gaming. Harder than Battletoads or the Temple of Elemental Evil. I understand what it's like to lose a lot, and I still gotta take a break
So I should complement all those Jin players who pop heat at the start of every round holding a gun to my head daring me to hit a button. Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiight
Its great that MainMan not only asks you to be positive and give compliments ... he himself practices what he preach ... you can tune in to any of his streams and watch him ...
7:23 I recently faced a Feng, which is a character I maybe played against once before on my way to raijin, and that quite a while ago. This Feng was Bushin and I immediately knew I had 0 chance of winning. The worst thing to think about was, that even tho I play alot around fundamentals, even when playing Dragunov, that I know exactly what that Feng player thought of me: "This is the most carried Dragunov I have ever seen". And this stigma around my fav character doesnt help the mental at all. Well yeah, I have 0 defence vs Feng, cause I dont know that matchup and yet I didnt try to bs my way through with my offense and rematched for the 0-2 loss anyways, while mostly holding b and getting blown up.
Right on, man. I'd say your mistakes in the match come from assuming you'd lose. This closed off your "mental" from some type of game plan. Then, you also assume what your opponent thinks of you. You have no idea what they are thinking. Be honest. Good luck.
And the S+ tier characters are the master cheesemakers. Jin, Dragunov, King, Alisa , Yoshimitsu, Hwoarang . Sometimes I compliment players, most of the times actually. I do not think myself as entitled to win, at all. In fact I consider myself shit and when I win I kind of feel like an impostor .
TMM on the Harada payroll too much. It’s not about not knowing how to take an L, it’s everything to do with how you can lose in this game that just seems so unjustifiable. Mix ups for every character, wonky tracking and every character has a lot more ways to cheese
It happens to me like whenever I play session with other players, I'm like wow that was cool nice punish, good side step. But in rank I get angry with small things
Growing older I find my self complementing a good block or comeback or whiff punish. When I was younger, that was impossible for me😂. Being able to recognize good plays on the enemy side is a step towards being able to enjoy gaming. Understandably it’s a competitive fighter, irritation and anger or even despair come with the act losing, but if you find yourself everyday being angry at any game, step back. Calm down. Do whatever you do to relax a bit. Once I find my self not having fun, I play something else and return next time with a renewed attitude.
Complimenting others in general helps with any game, we focus on what we do well but not other people. Acknowledging what someone has done well against you helps a lot
Honestly, this happens in Street Fighter 6 as well. Punk once said Street Fighter 6 is "random." At the end of the day, it boils down to maturity and game spirit. There are people who beat me all the time and are my best friends to play against on steam. It's just a game don't take it personally. Most of these people are genuinely nice people.
I’ve noticed firsthand that when I just shut up about complaining or how “broken” the game is and focus on the match and my opponent, I play exponentially better. It really does come down to a mindset thing where if you’re focused more on how upset you are or how the game is screwing you over, you’re not focused as much on the actual match in front of you and are more liable to mess up and get outplayed or cheesed
Whenever I'm fighting a scrub with strong cheese strats I try to remind myself that they usually can't deal with your cheese if you throw it back at them. There have been times where I have been scrubbed out by someone only for me to realize that they don't punish MY unsafe moves or setups and then i started winning against them when i began abusing those moves. I think some people when they learn try to get good at Tekken end up being too fixated on learnkng how play safe when they're still in a rank where people can't punish you for it. Using unsafe moves is part of the game and learning when you can and can't use them is part of reading your opponent and defeating them.
I played a few matches of mk11 with this guy once and only won 2 out of the 8 or something but he still sent me a message and said I had a really scary Kotal and it made me feel a lot better lol a compliment goes a long way and I try to do the same ever since then.
It felt so good when I conquered my first scrubby King. They kept on doing that armoured charge, and I (knowing the frames now) interrupted him at every opportunity. He literally never switched his strategy for three whole rounds.
Luckily I got away from that mental state of being mad over losses pretty early on in playing fighting games. Once you consider every match even the most button mashing or wildly absurd matches as learning opportunities to recognize gaps in knowledge it makes everything so much easier to deal with without affecting your sanity. Going from labeling something cheap or nonsense to instead troubleshooting mid match and then post match checking out the moves/flow charts is such a more rewarding way to view these matches and really helps with keeping a level head while playing. Only thing that still bothers me is horribly bad connections but even with those it's more of a considering it an automatic wash regardless of win or lose.
I've been watching you on and off through the years since Tekken 5. You've really matured your mental health when it comes to being competitive. I still remember all the times you've raged against Eddie, Steve back in Tekken 5 and you only played mishimas. You're 100 times a stronger player now from implementing everything you said in this video.
I resonate with this after going from Tekken God Reina to Tekken King, from 98 defense to 80's due to knowledge checks and people mashing in weird places/not respecting anything I do on my offense which made me rage hard. Thank you MaskuMan. One day, ONE DAY I will get that TG back. (i uninstalled the game)
So true about those players. Came across an Alyssa using flowcharts and got wrecked, then I hit the lab. Ran into him again a few days later but I was a little more prepared this time, he ran after the first match. He was still doing the same things. I didn't even have to learn the full match up, just like 2 or 3 punishes and one move to side step.
MAINMAN IVE WATCHED YOU FOR 10 YEARS YOURE THE GOAT. YOU HAVE LIKE 80% GOOD TAKE THESE DAYS. IVE NEVER BEEN PROUDER TO BE A SUB. YOURE THE BEST AND I LOVE YOU BROTHER GL GL GL GL
a knowledge check for 10hit combos is that the 7th hit is always a low, but in the hit of the battle may be a bit hard Special Note: Yoshi's was unscapable if the 4th hit (forgot which hit in fact) makes the rest of the string guaranteed, oh.. and some hits are unblockable xdd
People don’t realize just how beneficial taking breaks can be with this game! I will always hear that Tekken players fear that they’ll get worse after taking a break from playing, however, after taking some time to take a breath and regain my mental I FINALLY made it to “Tekken King” rank. Sometimes all you need is to regain your zen, and take some time to recover, like all things.
I don't get tilted in fighting games, because you can easily accept your mistakes that are your own or acknowledge someone is better than you. As for competitive team-based games, it's a living nightmare to try and not tilt lmao.
Since the last update that gave us the option to go straight to replay from the after match screen I have learned a lot of strings that I was not punishing before. I have not climbed any ranks from it yet, but I do feel more consistent.
Im persobally having so much fun playing tekken, occasionally i get a little salty mainly at myself for not reading my opponent better but in the end its that learning experience that gives me the biggest thrill playing this game.
I find alot of my tilt comes from being harsh on myself. I see the same scrubby moves, or typical strings, I can even feel or predict it's coming but I just don't seem to ever react in time or I input something I thought would counter but instead I just nuked myself. Doing my best to just see the game for what it is, a game, and just try to let go of being so determined to win, instead be look to see if I played better than last time.
Mid Launchers that high crush will never feel good lol also whose idea was it to give Zafina a powercrush launcher? Granted it’s -18 on block but bro 😭😭
After reaching Tekken God, I laid low from Ranked and played more on casuals as I don't like too much pressure when playing. I then watch gameplay vids of other players from time to time, as well as watching tournaments online and try to learn whatever I can from it.
What I like to say is "keep your ego in check, or your ego will check you." force yourself to take a break when you're tilted/raging. I know you dont want to but really FORCE yourself. You'll realize you're completely fine 10 mins later. Don't let it get to you; and if you notice that it does: either just tank it, take a deep breathe and move on (if you're someone that is able to do that) or step away if you can't.
A very good video everyone should watch. Applies for everything imo, the ability to accept that maybe we r not that good as we thought we r is a hugh step for improvement.
in any game i play, i mostly get frustrated when i know it was my mistake, like i had a miss imput or stuff like that. i almost never get super upset when i see that i was just outplayed, like "damn that was nice".
I got into tekken with 7 when it came out. I didn't normally play fighting games until then. Bought a fight stick and poured all of my effort into it. After nearly 2,000 hours of playing, learning, and grinding ranked, I hit Tekken God Prime. My Heihachi and King were disgusting. T8 is wildly different and I recently got my ass whipped by a green rank Eddy.
Its hard to say "damn you played nice" when in this game 99% of people gets smoked and then proceeds to cheese and play random af. Its the bad side of having a game so complex that you need hundreds of hours to know matchups well and people abuse that.
Being labeled random in a fighting game and winning is a huge compliment. Also, getting over yourself is also a huge thing to do as well. Ego can ruin a lot of good things. That’s something I have to remember as well.
Build that intuition and then never run it back after you win vs those people. Don't give idiots the chance to play like a monkey out of spite. Don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking you owe anyone the full set.
As someone who's studying game design one thing I've learned is that a series like tekken didn't get this far by being as broken as people claim it is... No matter how cheesey something is there's always a counterplay it's just how much r u willing to work for it... And if ur there taking the cheese over and over again then maybe the problem is u
I don't have much time to watch MainMan stream but the little time I had watching him I understood all of it he is talking before hand, crazy how it can help to admire the opponent doing well.
MainMan this was a pretty based video and lot's of people who play Tekken or play other games that get tilted can really use this video to help them out. The message of positivity and acceptance of circumstances is really important. big thanks for this and stay awesome!
Complements from the enemy player only hit me after I got to higher ranks, you are less likely to credit your opponent the more exalted your position. I love your advice btw
I realized I wasnt going to become something in Tekken or any competitive thing or anything that requires work, until I realized a winner mentality isnt what gets you wins itself, learner's mentality, grow, adaption, mature, not "win win win win" A Learning Mindset will always outperform a winner's mindset.
another thing that sucks a lot, imo, is getting caught in one of those combos that go on for ten seconds. Like, wow, good job, you landed a hit and now I'm in a cutscene. That very often ends up tilting me. Especially when the combo has one move repeated six times just to get you closer to a wall
I have had the highest highs when countering and executing my gameplan. My frustration comes from the amount of knowledge and execution the game takes. You can get fraud checked over and over again, and it gets rough.
I love mindset topics on FGs, so, forgive my yapping. Mindset is one of the main things that can put your interest in the genre, or even anything that's hard to learn, to a halt. I think the first thing a person should do when deciding to learn this game, is to adopt the learning mindset and creating tolerance to losing. Not just losing as in, losing the set, or the match, but losing interactions, messing up and also like you said, accepting that you won't know how to deal with certain things and face it like a learning opportunity. Frustration is often the cause of lack of knowledge, if you don't know what made you fuck up in the first place, of course you're gonna look at it and be infuriated, but if you do know, it can make it easier to not just learn how to deal with that bs string or gameplan, but also, easier to get into the mindset you recommended, to compliment your opponent. For the majority of FGs but specially Tekken, i recommend playing longer sets against a single person. It doesn't even have to be someone you know or someone you contacted with, just someone in the lobbies would be good (lobbies, not room matches. Those are often empty, at least that's my experience with it). Though, it would be better to be either of those options, for feedback or just for personal requests (e.g could you stick with this one character, i'm learning this MU). When you're fighting a single person, it funnels the amount of things you have to learn, because you're fighting one person, with a set of gameplay habits, and if they don't switch, it boils down to learning how to deal with their patterns and tools. Also, i don't know what are people's opinion on replay takeover, but thats one of the most fun i have in the game, it just feels rewarding to go there and beat the option that owned me in the match, so i also advice yall to try it out too. Thanks for your content TMM!
Feng? Hworang? Panda? Jack-8? NO! My first wild Shaheen appeared out of nowhere after 200 hours of playing the game and gave me a rage-inducing beating because I didn't even know what he was doing lmao
Honestly whenever I start raging at Tekken i just shut down the game and come back to it later with a cooler head. Sometimes it's not even the knowledge checks but really just you being tired or life in general. I used to rage a lot and it did not bring me anything, like you said previously if there's no good feeling coming a gaming session, then why continue playing ?
Very true, I'm curious what people get out of tekken anyway. Cool combos, flashing lights? Personally, I'm not doing tournaments, so what do I gain playing as a scrub?
Honestly, i feel like this against Xiaoyu, Lili, Victor, King, Kuma/Panda, Eddy, Alisa, and Yoshi. I got into this game several weeks ago and i swear, playing against those characters made me wanna throw out my computer.
"I didnt get opened up, I just got tired of blocking" - LowTierGod
A truly evergreen clip
Absolute classic
I will never understand how that complaining ass mf is as popular as he is. Everytime I hear him he's bitching
preach
When I say BUM 🗣️
Hey! I'm not a braindead chainsaw spamming Alisa with 40 Defense!
I have 50 Defense.
Damn he’s good
Yeah, he's pretty good
Keep it up
Being a Xiaoyu player and liking TMM content is like masochism stockholm syndrome every time I boot up a new video
You may win an evo or twt soon
Man, that message about being positive is so important. I cannot understate how much of an improvement in mood I've had since I started complimenting my opponent on a round well won, or a whiff well punished. It's made the game infinitely more enjoyable.
Sure thing than you eat 20 low unlockable from Yoshis, of course you are gonna go and compliments some one else!!!
Tough to compliment abuse
@@EraseTimeyou got to learn the match up
Sometimes I lean back and say “damn, you got me good bro gg” feels good when you recognize that your opponent didnt just get lucky or was scrubby, but actually out played you, you learn a lot about yourself and why you got outplayed like that, usually when I look back im like “damn I was spamming this same string too much, should had mixed it up”
Worst is when you give them a compliment then they kicharge you or tbag 😂
A Steve I beat in a ditto in ranked messaged me saying ggs and he was gonna steal my tech, was the most positive interaction I’ve had in online tekken lol
as a steve, i do this!
What was the tech brother? 👀
steve mirror match for me is the best way to exchange some tech
I love getting beaten by a better player, I always hold my hands up and say well played.
What I can’t stand is people mashing the same cheap moves and I only have 3 rounds to pick up on what they are doing before they beat me and leave
falou tudo
@@AirtonBruno psé MANO.
Once you realize you should play for getting better instead of getting ranked points this will not bother you
@@johnnymonsterrrr when they leave you cant learn from them anymore lmao all you got is the replays but u wont get your rematch
I understand but you need to relax and try to learn their patterns because they only doing flowchart and 3 rounds is plenty of time to learn and if you loose it doesn’t matter there is replay and you will face the same character and you will be ready
Shoutout to all the players that send GGs after a match. Y’all the real ones 💯
They don't all get the gg, but win or lose, sometimes the opponent makes it a good match and should know.
Except the ones that did it after lagging, t bagging, and then one and doneing. Rip twitch streamers
I send it sarcastically
Dumb question, how do you do that in ranked or quickplay? I've only had communications in lobbies or through Steam profiles.
nah it's just copium
_I must not tilt._
_Tilt is the Prog-Killer._
_Tilt is the Skill-Issue that brings LowTierCrashouts._
_I will soothe my Tilt._
_I will permit it to seethe out of me and through me._
_And when I boot up the game next time, I will have adapted and have the reads._
_Where the Tilt has soothed there will be focus. Only Skill will remain._
We have been blessed with the antiltdote prayer! 😡🤬🙅♂🙏💪☺
I'll never forget when I first learned how to deal with Lucky Chloe low, mid, low, mid infinite kick spam in Tekken 7. It was a quick tournament, I faced her, she destroyed me, and I was so pissed I looked up the counter in the match off times while I fought my way up the loser bracket. I faced her in the final, parried the low, she tried it two more times getting parried both times, then there was an awkward pause-.......She LITERALLY had no idea what to do now that I had an answer from the one cheese they had. So bloody satisfying.
That is the best feeling playing tekken and winning is the 2nd best
Yes dude lol. I just loved when I face a Lucy Cloe player, on call, each other been able to hear the other, and then the player trying this low mid low mid, and I just countering. I remember he just saying: Noooo, I can't do this with you, u know how to counter, bro is a monster lol.
Don’t play to win. Play to learn
Nah I wanna win. Can’t learn when the other play is doing 50/50s all game.
@@jjjjjjaylon then play a different game. why play something where the system itself is broken?
@@jjjjjjaylon Real
@@jesse76th96 bro you said the system was broken I didn’t say that. I enjoy playing the game but certain players do just 50/50 all game and that’s not really a balanced game. Especially if I guess wrong twice and die.
@@jjjjjjaylonin order to win you need to learn how to win
This is 1000% more easy to not tilt, learn and be in a good mood, and progress fast when you play with your friends.
Bro it helps humanize your opponent. One of my homeboys plays Lars and we all know Lars is more annoying than op. Sometimes I get caught in his DEN low loops and instead of getting pissy, I just gotta give credit. He forced me to respect his mid threats out of the stance and then killed me lows. What’s harder to respect is DEN 3 being a forced mix up on block, but that’s not his fault lol
@@CD44F You guys seem knowledgeable I need to train with such players
@ I’m only Fujin myself but I’m always down to run some! I’ll drop my Tekken ID when I get home
13:25 yesterday I got outplayed by a fcking ALISA (she actually played super well and fundamental) and shortly after played against a cr4ckhead autoplay kazuya. felt like I was in some kind of alternative dimension lol
Your name looks familiar. Was I the Alisa?
@@AngeloArcanano, you were scrub Alisa. I remember enough to know
@@thomasmcginnis7526 You sound like someone I beat. lul
Bro tryna change the narrative 😂
@@AngeloArcana my nickname ingame is bigode, it could be lol
Nothing feels crazier than getting your ass handed to you by a Ling with 38 defensive
I stg this happened to me yesterday and I’m ALSO a ling player but I have an 88 defense and I’m tekken god. I immediately got off
Then what does that say about your defense? 😂😂 Lmao the irony of your comment is hilarious to me. Because if you know anything at all about how Ling works, which I'm assuming you don't since you'd get beat up by a Ling with 38 defense, she has to be very defensive to be evasive and tricky, and to pull off half of her offense. If you getting "spammed" by a Xiaoyu, that's genuinely on you.
@@raycharles6258you got off? That's how you suck at the game. Because instead of going to your replays and learning how to defend against her because it's VERY possible, you get off the game. Lol. You'd never get better with this mindset. It's similar to me how people complain to much about Alisa players.... Like bro ever since I started learning her and labbing against her, I haven't lost to a single Alisa player since. Meeting very good, defensive Alisa players is rare, so when I do encounter one, they're just doing predictable flow charts that I can defend against, since I leaned her moves. It's as simple as that.
@@VillainessAO ummm, dude I was relating to the comment😭 it’s never that serious but you got it twin. I don’t really play tekken, I enjoy it. I be on 2k bruh🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@raycharles6258 bro I'm sorry 😭 sending hearts 💞
I miss my wife tails
Will you date me? Breathe if yes. Recite the bible in Japanese if no.
*encounters another Yoshi in ranked
"I'M BACK IN THIS FUCKING MATCHUP AGAIN"
I miss her a lot
I'll be back
I miss your wife too Tails.
I really am coming sonic
I playing this one dude, he was punishing everything and knew his matchups. But instead of raging, I focus on doing what worked for me and It helped. I was able to complement his game and I got better for those losses.
Also remember if you lose to the cheese lords, that person will plateau eventually and never get better
Fax
Problem is that this cheese can carry him all the way to high ranks in this game
And he will then gate keep that rank or Smurf
The 20k win yellow Paul main
@@spectraphantom777that's just not true... No matter how cheesey u have to atleast some grasp of fundamental to get good at the game... Trust me coming from someone who's abused king's cheese and plateaued for a while in red ranks until actually learning how to play the game to improve
I just unclogged the toilet
Good job.
Good shit dude
@@thorcolossus Not good enough
I just clogged mine
How did it smell like peepee or poopoo?
what pisses me off is not the cheese, lag or plugg, its when you have those sessions where you keep guessing more wrong, and to add more salt to it is when the opponent keep guessing right. that s* fkin tilting.
That's just statistics it's not up to u it's not up to ur opponent it's just nature we gotta deal with
Tekken 8 is one of the first fight games I actually dedicated time to learning, because of exactly the reasons your stating makes it a rage fest. The ability to win as a newbie is fun, you’re motivated to learn why law just ran at you and kicked you into the wall 5 times in a row. I play this with my friends almost every night, and each time someone becomes dominant because they put the pieces together of what we have been doing to win. I think it’s a great game if you have the time to put into it.
Gotta say MainMan, I've been watching your videos for about 4 years now and it's great to see how you've grown as a content creator and as a person. Really enjoy watching your stuff, dude. I hope you get to keep doing this into the foreseeable future.
The only thing that makes me rage are missed inputs. I cannot count the times a throw would win me the match, but instead of doing the command throw, the character does a jumping punch instead and gets floored. I may hit one of the buttons 1 frame before the other, which produces the wrong attack. I may want to roll to the left, but I hit the wrong button and roll to the right. I may want to do quarter circle forward to clear the distance, surprise the opponent and maybe get a hit, but instead my character ducks. I think I've lost over 50% of my matches simply because my hands does something different from what my mind intended, and that can make me scream.
That said, this problem has gotten a lot better, and I'm now a lot calmer. I make less mistakes, and even if I make some, I now know it's possible to get good at this, so there's no need to stress out. Just use the replay function, try to stay calm and stop thinking about winning.
7:02 That happens completely naturally for me. I get tilted and then for maybe a week I dont want to queue up because I remember my last experience, until enough time has passed, where my mental is reset.
Took like a 3 week break and ranked up outa no where when I hopped back on. This is facts
After a long break I was able to get my Devil Jin to Tekken King, and in general I feel like my DJ improved a lot after the break.
I just came back from a break, i have stronger meds, and i lost like 90% of the sets i played. most fun i ever had with the game hands down
Question: Is his charged punch attack steppable?
@@arvinsim yes
@ Yes but you need to do a really well timed step, RIGHT before he releases it, which can be tricky because the Devil Jin can mix up the timing on you.
Edit : I also forgot to mention that he can also cancel it into Mourning Crow. I’ve seen Devil Jin’s do db1+2 into Mourning Crow into 2,2, trying to take advantage of the opponent trying to press something.
@@arvinsim if the devil jin does down back 1+2 for oki, just stay lying down to avoid getting hit
This exactly what I’ve been doing to not only get better myself but also help my opponent/friends in the lobby. MMS said “you’re not as good as you think you are”, I remind myself of that and also give my opponent their props too.
I wish more of the online community was positive and friendly. The game is hard enough without getting kicked, ignored, or called names. The negativity happens way more than it should in my opinion
I get ki charged alot, i play jin so thats prolly why but like gah damn wth did i do lol
Thank you for this message. I'm also struggling with spammers especially alisa, yoshi, hwoarang and nina. It's frustating. But now I will focus to learn, I will let go the emotion.
Last weekend I came back after a 2 month break, and I played online for 4 hours without tilting or even getting noticably upset. I had completely forgotten how to play my character, but I still had fun the whole time. I'm not sure I needed THAT long of a break, but taking a week off or something like that can definitely help with a more positive mental state.
I have found it IMMENSELY helpful to send a message to someone after a match is over if I appreciate a play that they made during the game. I am a Tenryu Bryan, and it's almost funny how nobody in red ranks know how to respond to receiving positive feedback for their gameplay.
Red ranks is a cesspool of people that’s salty they can’t get out of red. Most of the red rank cheesed their way through so they get upset when someone with common sense outplays them
The rage I get from this game is crazy
This is a refreshing video. I'm currently on a break from the game, because getting good at defense is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do in all of gaming. Harder than Battletoads or the Temple of Elemental Evil. I understand what it's like to lose a lot, and I still gotta take a break
So I should complement all those Jin players who pop heat at the start of every round holding a gun to my head daring me to hit a button.
Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiight
Its great that MainMan not only asks you to be positive and give compliments ... he himself practices what he preach ... you can tune in to any of his streams and watch him ...
7:23 I recently faced a Feng, which is a character I maybe played against once before on my way to raijin, and that quite a while ago. This Feng was Bushin and I immediately knew I had 0 chance of winning.
The worst thing to think about was, that even tho I play alot around fundamentals, even when playing Dragunov, that I know exactly what that Feng player thought of me: "This is the most carried Dragunov I have ever seen". And this stigma around my fav character doesnt help the mental at all. Well yeah, I have 0 defence vs Feng, cause I dont know that matchup and yet I didnt try to bs my way through with my offense and rematched for the 0-2 loss anyways, while mostly holding b and getting blown up.
But did you try to learn the match up during that set or just let him win and i don’t understand ?
Right on, man. I'd say your mistakes in the match come from assuming you'd lose. This closed off your "mental" from some type of game plan. Then, you also assume what your opponent thinks of you. You have no idea what they are thinking. Be honest. Good luck.
Nina and haowrang plus frame abusers beating dragunov.
The game lets you get away with so much bs, that i rarely compliment an opponent unless they’re really well rounded
And the S+ tier characters are the master cheesemakers. Jin, Dragunov, King, Alisa , Yoshimitsu, Hwoarang .
Sometimes I compliment players, most of the times actually. I do not think myself as entitled to win, at all. In fact I consider myself shit and when I win I kind of feel like an impostor .
TMM on the Harada payroll too much. It’s not about not knowing how to take an L, it’s everything to do with how you can lose in this game that just seems so unjustifiable. Mix ups for every character, wonky tracking and every character has a lot more ways to cheese
It happens to me like whenever I play session with other players, I'm like wow that was cool nice punish, good side step. But in rank I get angry with small things
Because you focus so much on the rank part and it’s no diffrent to play session
@solidfury7624 may be you are right. I always Play better in Friendly Sessions
Growing older I find my self complementing a good block or comeback or whiff punish. When I was younger, that was impossible for me😂. Being able to recognize good plays on the enemy side is a step towards being able to enjoy gaming.
Understandably it’s a competitive fighter, irritation and anger or even despair come with the act losing, but if you find yourself everyday being angry at any game, step back. Calm down. Do whatever you do to relax a bit. Once I find my self not having fun, I play something else and return next time with a renewed attitude.
Complimenting others in general helps with any game, we focus on what we do well but not other people. Acknowledging what someone has done well against you helps a lot
“The first one to get angry, loses” applies everywhere
12:33 That kinda hit me… I rolled my eyes in real time trying to deny I was the one being called out. I’m totally that type.
Honestly a great message that actually helps. Whenever I rage my rank just plummets. It's usually when I'm positive that I climb.
"as soon as you get emotional, you are not learning"
Honestly, this happens in Street Fighter 6 as well. Punk once said Street Fighter 6 is "random." At the end of the day, it boils down to maturity and game spirit. There are people who beat me all the time and are my best friends to play against on steam. It's just a game don't take it personally. Most of these people are genuinely nice people.
I’ve noticed firsthand that when I just shut up about complaining or how “broken” the game is and focus on the match and my opponent, I play exponentially better. It really does come down to a mindset thing where if you’re focused more on how upset you are or how the game is screwing you over, you’re not focused as much on the actual match in front of you and are more liable to mess up and get outplayed or cheesed
Whenever I'm fighting a scrub with strong cheese strats I try to remind myself that they usually can't deal with your cheese if you throw it back at them.
There have been times where I have been scrubbed out by someone only for me to realize that they don't punish MY unsafe moves or setups and then i started winning against them when i began abusing those moves.
I think some people when they learn try to get good at Tekken end up being too fixated on learnkng how play safe when they're still in a rank where people can't punish you for it.
Using unsafe moves is part of the game and learning when you can and can't use them is part of reading your opponent and defeating them.
ranking up is a symptom of improving at the game. you will naturally rank up your rank as you slowly improve your fundamentals
Im not complimenting anyone when im being mixed by the game and not the person
Alright, but no one online is ever going to believe you. You're just going to come off as being salty.
I played a few matches of mk11 with this guy once and only won 2 out of the 8 or something but he still sent me a message and said I had a really scary Kotal and it made me feel a lot better lol a compliment goes a long way and I try to do the same ever since then.
It felt so good when I conquered my first scrubby King. They kept on doing that armoured charge, and I (knowing the frames now) interrupted him at every opportunity. He literally never switched his strategy for three whole rounds.
Luckily I got away from that mental state of being mad over losses pretty early on in playing fighting games. Once you consider every match even the most button mashing or wildly absurd matches as learning opportunities to recognize gaps in knowledge it makes everything so much easier to deal with without affecting your sanity. Going from labeling something cheap or nonsense to instead troubleshooting mid match and then post match checking out the moves/flow charts is such a more rewarding way to view these matches and really helps with keeping a level head while playing.
Only thing that still bothers me is horribly bad connections but even with those it's more of a considering it an automatic wash regardless of win or lose.
Bro I don't want to admit anyone is better than me, that means I have to experience personal growth
People online aren't real, though.
@@Sorcerollowhat ?? Explain
Yeah you need to let go of that ego
@solidfury7624 “WHOOSH”
@@liveordie200 really ?
Thank you for this video. It let me start re-enjoying this game again.
They turned this into a system mechanic in Tekken 7
Could you do video about fundamentals in T8 and how to improve?
I go into tekken 8, always while my head tells me, "I'm about to taunt my inner demons to come out"
I've been watching you on and off through the years since Tekken 5. You've really matured your mental health when it comes to being competitive. I still remember all the times you've raged against Eddie, Steve back in Tekken 5 and you only played mishimas. You're 100 times a stronger player now from implementing everything you said in this video.
I resonate with this after going from Tekken God Reina to Tekken King, from 98 defense to 80's due to knowledge checks and people mashing in weird places/not respecting anything I do on my offense which made me rage hard. Thank you MaskuMan. One day, ONE DAY I will get that TG back. (i uninstalled the game)
So true about those players. Came across an Alyssa using flowcharts and got wrecked, then I hit the lab. Ran into him again a few days later but I was a little more prepared this time, he ran after the first match. He was still doing the same things. I didn't even have to learn the full match up, just like 2 or 3 punishes and one move to side step.
MAINMAN IVE WATCHED YOU FOR 10 YEARS YOURE THE GOAT. YOU HAVE LIKE 80% GOOD TAKE THESE DAYS. IVE NEVER BEEN PROUDER TO BE A SUB. YOURE THE BEST AND I LOVE YOU BROTHER GL GL GL GL
Happens 24/7 in Mortal Kombat 1. People just buy the game to play the DLC characters, and literally spam their asses off it’s crazy
a knowledge check for 10hit combos is that the 7th hit is always a low, but in the hit of the battle may be a bit hard
Special Note: Yoshi's was unscapable if the 4th hit (forgot which hit in fact) makes the rest of the string guaranteed, oh.. and some hits are unblockable xdd
"IT'S ALL JUST MASH, THEY JUST MASHING IN MY FACE WITH NO SKILL"
- Ltg
@@Nio-i4x - Dale
People don’t realize just how beneficial taking breaks can be with this game! I will always hear that Tekken players fear that they’ll get worse after taking a break from playing, however, after taking some time to take a breath and regain my mental I FINALLY made it to “Tekken King” rank.
Sometimes all you need is to regain your zen, and take some time to recover, like all things.
You can come to appreciate the intro to this video.
I don't get tilted in fighting games, because you can easily accept your mistakes that are your own or acknowledge someone is better than you. As for competitive team-based games, it's a living nightmare to try and not tilt lmao.
Since the last update that gave us the option to go straight to replay from the after match screen I have learned a lot of strings that I was not punishing before. I have not climbed any ranks from it yet, but I do feel more consistent.
That getting smoked in one second is so true....made it to flame ruler with heihachi...and boy these flow charts hurt
Im persobally having so much fun playing tekken, occasionally i get a little salty mainly at myself for not reading my opponent better but in the end its that learning experience that gives me the biggest thrill playing this game.
I find alot of my tilt comes from being harsh on myself.
I see the same scrubby moves, or typical strings, I can even feel or predict it's coming but I just don't seem to ever react in time or I input something I thought would counter but instead I just nuked myself.
Doing my best to just see the game for what it is, a game, and just try to let go of being so determined to win, instead be look to see if I played better than last time.
Im pretty calm in T8 ranked (Thx DBFZ for teaching 😂)
But 2 things i hate are High crushes and lows that dont look like lows (looking at you Paul)
Fking Zafina...
Mid Launchers that high crush will never feel good lol also whose idea was it to give Zafina a powercrush launcher? Granted it’s -18 on block but bro 😭😭
After reaching Tekken God, I laid low from Ranked and played more on casuals as I don't like too much pressure when playing. I then watch gameplay vids of other players from time to time, as well as watching tournaments online and try to learn whatever I can from it.
What I like to say is "keep your ego in check, or your ego will check you."
force yourself to take a break when you're tilted/raging.
I know you dont want to but really FORCE yourself. You'll realize you're completely fine 10 mins later.
Don't let it get to you; and if you notice that it does: either just tank it, take a deep breathe and move on (if you're someone that is able to do that) or step away if you can't.
A very good video everyone should watch. Applies for everything imo, the ability to accept that maybe we r not that good as we thought we r is a hugh step for improvement.
in any game i play, i mostly get frustrated when i know it was my mistake, like i had a miss imput or stuff like that. i almost never get super upset when i see that i was just outplayed, like "damn that was nice".
Getting mashed out by Eddy is extremely frustrating…I have no clue if he’s attacking low, mid or high😤
Learn your quick jabs. If that's how you win a match, then that's how you win.
I got into tekken with 7 when it came out. I didn't normally play fighting games until then. Bought a fight stick and poured all of my effort into it. After nearly 2,000 hours of playing, learning, and grinding ranked, I hit Tekken God Prime. My Heihachi and King were disgusting. T8 is wildly different and I recently got my ass whipped by a green rank Eddy.
Its hard to say "damn you played nice" when in this game 99% of people gets smoked and then proceeds to cheese and play random af. Its the bad side of having a game so complex that you need hundreds of hours to know matchups well and people abuse that.
Being labeled random in a fighting game and winning is a huge compliment. Also, getting over yourself is also a huge thing to do as well. Ego can ruin a lot of good things. That’s something I have to remember as well.
Build that intuition and then never run it back after you win vs those people. Don't give idiots the chance to play like a monkey out of spite. Don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking you owe anyone the full set.
But that’s Tekken that’s why it is a good game because it has depth and the fun part is to learn and counter the cheese then after that you will win
Agreed. People get smoked and then resort to the cheesiest tactics.
As someone who's studying game design one thing I've learned is that a series like tekken didn't get this far by being as broken as people claim it is... No matter how cheesey something is there's always a counterplay it's just how much r u willing to work for it... And if ur there taking the cheese over and over again then maybe the problem is u
I don't have much time to watch MainMan stream but the little time I had watching him I understood all of it he is talking before hand, crazy how it can help to admire the opponent doing well.
crazy how this comment is absolutelly uselless, I did see so many people on the comments with that mentality, thanks main man :)
"This Dude's Doing Strings!"
-LTG
I told myself the other day never be surprised at ANYTHING that happens in this game.
Tekken is the game where egos either get lifted or destroyed. There is no in between, especially in ranked.
MainMan this was a pretty based video and lot's of people who play Tekken or play other games that get tilted can really use this video to help them out. The message of positivity and acceptance of circumstances is really important. big thanks for this and stay awesome!
Complements from the enemy player only hit me after I got to higher ranks, you are less likely to credit your opponent the more exalted your position. I love your advice btw
I realized I wasnt going to become something in Tekken or any competitive thing or anything that requires work, until I realized a winner mentality isnt what gets you wins itself,
learner's mentality, grow, adaption, mature, not "win win win win"
A Learning Mindset will always outperform a winner's mindset.
"Wow I really respect this Eddy players dedication to only press 3 and sometimes 4. He's really good at abare"
Complimenting your opponent is a great way to reduce tilt.
another thing that sucks a lot, imo, is getting caught in one of those combos that go on for ten seconds. Like, wow, good job, you landed a hit and now I'm in a cutscene. That very often ends up tilting me. Especially when the combo has one move repeated six times just to get you closer to a wall
I have had the highest highs when countering and executing my gameplan. My frustration comes from the amount of knowledge and execution the game takes. You can get fraud checked over and over again, and it gets rough.
Man... in general that was actually a good mesage and speech for people that may have a bad times with this game i really enjoyed that video. thanks😅.
I love mindset topics on FGs, so, forgive my yapping. Mindset is one of the main things that can put your interest in the genre, or even anything that's hard to learn, to a halt.
I think the first thing a person should do when deciding to learn this game, is to adopt the learning mindset and creating tolerance to losing. Not just losing as in, losing the set, or the match, but losing interactions, messing up and also like you said, accepting that you won't know how to deal with certain things and face it like a learning opportunity. Frustration is often the cause of lack of knowledge, if you don't know what made you fuck up in the first place, of course you're gonna look at it and be infuriated, but if you do know, it can make it easier to not just learn how to deal with that bs string or gameplan, but also, easier to get into the mindset you recommended, to compliment your opponent.
For the majority of FGs but specially Tekken, i recommend playing longer sets against a single person. It doesn't even have to be someone you know or someone you contacted with, just someone in the lobbies would be good (lobbies, not room matches. Those are often empty, at least that's my experience with it). Though, it would be better to be either of those options, for feedback or just for personal requests (e.g could you stick with this one character, i'm learning this MU). When you're fighting a single person, it funnels the amount of things you have to learn, because you're fighting one person, with a set of gameplay habits, and if they don't switch, it boils down to learning how to deal with their patterns and tools. Also, i don't know what are people's opinion on replay takeover, but thats one of the most fun i have in the game, it just feels rewarding to go there and beat the option that owned me in the match, so i also advice yall to try it out too.
Thanks for your content TMM!
Couldn't of said it better!
Feng? Hworang? Panda? Jack-8? NO! My first wild Shaheen appeared out of nowhere after 200 hours of playing the game and gave me a rage-inducing beating because I didn't even know what he was doing lmao
honestly one of the most net positive videos for tekken 8, not just for individual mental but also for the health of the game as well
My biggest issue rn is that i put five bar only gives me a "5 bar" proceed to spend the next 5 match at 100-200 ping
This was so cathartic. I unfortunately wasn't able to accept this game for what it is but I still enjoy spectating and mms content
It sucks, as a ling main nobody wants to fight me because my character is too “Weird” Or “Cheap”.
Honestly whenever I start raging at Tekken i just shut down the game and come back to it later with a cooler head. Sometimes it's not even the knowledge checks but really just you being tired or life in general. I used to rage a lot and it did not bring me anything, like you said previously if there's no good feeling coming a gaming session, then why continue playing ?
Very true, I'm curious what people get out of tekken anyway. Cool combos, flashing lights? Personally, I'm not doing tournaments, so what do I gain playing as a scrub?
@Sorcerollo personally I love the game and I learned a lot playing it with a cool head. Combos are definitely cool hahhaha and defensive movement 👌
As a new player i rarely get mad in tekken 8, the only times is when im mad about myself "i know i can punish that, wth am i doing?"
Honestly, i feel like this against Xiaoyu, Lili, Victor, King, Kuma/Panda, Eddy, Alisa, and Yoshi. I got into this game several weeks ago and i swear, playing against those characters made me wanna throw out my computer.
Props to you for saying this!! Well said. Coming from a guy who rages when I loose a close battle.