Give Me an Answer - If There Is NO GOD, All Choices Are Equal, Or Unequal, Or Bad, Or Good -WHATEVER
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Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US. Recorded Nov. 2019
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
#Evidence #Christianity #Jesus #apologetics
Finally, someone who can initiate and have a civil conversation. How refreshing!
This wasn't quite civil. Doesn't it sound demeaning, even though he may be right?
Actually there are quite a few ppl like him. Answers in Genesis etc
No kidding
Check out living waters channel. Ray comfort does this everyday but yet does it better in my opinion and more gently.
@@Glorified_ink yea but ray Comfort has a fake gospel
I see that no one mocks, ridicules, or shouts down this pastor; because he speaks the truth in love and sees these people as God sees them.
Don't mistake being civil for thinking that the pastor is correct while presenting fiction.
@@MyContext well, considering that even respected atheist and agnostic scholars agree that Jesus was a historical person that certainly died on the cross under the jurisdiction of Pontius Pilate, I don’t know how you can say this is fiction - unless you’re saying that the New Testament has miracles and therefore is fiction and didn’t happen, but that’s based on quite a huge presupposition and faith position that God and the supernatural isn’t real and miracles can’t happen. And that is a faith position.
@@ultrastar23If a claim and/or various components of a claim are not shown to be aspects of reality, then the claim is fiction (unsubstantiated). Thus,claims entailing God, miracles, spirits, and various other notions which are not shown to be an aspect of reality are fiction.
@@MyContext But you understand that in a universe where God does exist, miracles and supernatural phenomenon is rational. Just like in your worldview, where God doesn't exist, miracles and supernatural phenomenon is irrational.
@@richardcastillo2640 What is God? What shows what you are labeling as God?
This video reignited my interest in following Christ. I thank you!
Bible:Exodus
If you buy a Hebrew servant,(D) he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free,(E) without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.
5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’(F) 6 then his master must take him before the judges.[a](G) He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce(H) his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.(I)
7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[b] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.(J) 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
If you read the bible you find out tje religion is founded on slavery and misogyny,this is fucked up and wrong and for people to cherry pick or ignore the fucked up parts of the bible mean they are disingenuous
I advise you to understand you can be a great person without having to worship any god let alone a fucked up on like the Christian one
@@TheWilfredolorenzo I appreciate your comment I will start reading the Bible and studying more so I can be better informed
@@TheWilfredolorenzo if you don’t believe in God why do you care so much what that guys is trying to do lol ?
@@richardvera8886 believe me brother if the Bible wasn’t true . An atheist like that guy up there ^ wouldn’t go that far to prove that God doesn’t exist . He would just go about his life and not care . But instead he’s trying to stop you from learning the truth. He wants you to be like him . Do you know why that is
@@TheWilfredolorenzo if there's such a thing in a book that u guys called "Book of truth"
Then that's fucked up
This man legitimately changed my religious beliefs
@@LookOutForNumberOne
If anything you should be grateful!
The Holy Spirit does the work in you not man. All the glory you have goes to God.
Cliffe would say the same@@jamesedington9126
The first man was one of the most respectful debaters I've seen on this series thus far. I pray this experience touched his heart and he is now seeking God.
This is what i imagine that philosphers in ancient greece looked like speaking their philosophies to anybody that would gather around and talk
@Darth Quantum calm down :|
@Darth Quantum Why do you believe in Plato and Aristotle? Have you seen them?
@@allanherrera2489 read the books
@@timerson41 but have you seen them? That’s my question. You know the existed because of the historical evidence, same as Jesus (God) . Or you are going to decide to just believe in what you want to believe?
@@allanherrera2489 historical evidence? Well I mean science has disproved the bible, most of the bible is hyper metaphorical language that cant be taken at face value. Sure it has amazing potential to teach and dissect the human condition, but not as if it were reality. Plato and all the other philosophers just talked about things that they were trying to understand and understood. I just need to see if I can replicate the teachings of the philosophers through quantitative analysis.
I am one of Chinese who follows Jesus in China under risk and oppression. I became chrisitan 16 years ago when I was in China. Jesus is living God. He loves us so much.
“If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first. - Christ
Remember what I told you: 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.- Christ
Amen
@Jit 8 the story isn't over..we will find out who is stupid and who isn't...ultimately.
@@3joewj thank you
Wow, I never thought of it like that...the phrase "good samaritan" comes from the bible when Christ saved a lost samaritan woman who was good in heart and put her faith in Christ and was saved 🙌
I sat and enjoyed Cliffe Knechtle in 1983 on Chico State Campus. He drew a crows of hundreds of people out on the grass and delivered structural witnessing logic that I use today. He has a great book out, "Give me and answer." Bought it back then and have it on my shelf behind me. Praise the Lord for evangelists like Cliffe!
I was a Christian since birth around my 30 i have nothing to do with Christ. 4 years ago i was born again. I study Bible regularly at Sunday school WOW WOW the Bible is so deep I learned so much the history, events the beginning of everything in life.
What an amazing apologist. Seeing this man for the first time.
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@Darth Quantum Would be good to hear the reasoning for the morals you hold...
I will look for Cliffe to be one of my professors. He brings clarity to difficult questions. There is nothing more painful than to see people in the background and so detached. They've determined in their minds that they will live forever and celebrate 19th birthday all over gain every year.
"Remember your Creator in the days of your youth, before the days of adversity come and the years approach of which you will say, “I find no pleasure in them,” before the light of the sun, moon, and stars is darkened, and the clouds return after the rain" - (Ecclesiastes 12)
Good Pastor and Theologian to study under. I have enjoyed his teachings for years. I have met Pastor Cliff and Ass't Pastor Stuart and heard them. You should go.
I love the passion, and reasoning that these young men, and women get to hear about the Bible without feeling like they weren't being heard. Great video.
@@darkeen42 One year later, and you are making a comment? Have you seen what he's edited out? The bitterness in your post is something you have to deal with, not me. Bye.
Cliffe has the best defensive fundamentals of any apologist ever. Feet shoulder width, slightly bent at the waist and knees, chin up, palms up... you're never slipping by and going baseline on Cliffe!
He'll take a charge, too.
*Seriously, tremendous respect for Cliffe.
Mann, I love this pastor -all glory to God. Grace and peace.
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 Is the Burning Bush God? Who was the Burning Bush?
@@guard213 Jesus Christ/God.
if you ever get a chance, go hear him and his son, and meet him and Ass't Pastor Stuart.
@@Brucev7 right. If they ever come to San Diego - Most definitely!
I love this guy, I hope all goes well for him.
Started following Cliffe the other day, glad I found this channel. Good information and knowledge of God’s words.
Honestly, I can remember asking my mom as a young child if Mt. Rushmore was made by people or not. I can also remember the way she laughed at my question. 😂
The world by wisdom knew not God!
But all will stand before him one day!
And every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that his son Jesus is Lord!
I love your show my sons all watch with me thank you 😂😂😂😂❤🙏🙏🙏☘️🌹
This guy doing a sumo pose while intensely philosophizing is hilarious and awesome.
Power pose
Dominance stance
The same way when you are teaching a child, you need to be at their level….Cliff is much taller & when he crouches down, he is simply evening out the eyes
Notice the last guy, he’s tall, Cliff doesn’t lower himself
Grateful to stumble across this video! New subscriber!
Watch out for trolls.
God bless you too. Bravo for impacting lives with God's wisdom.. Glory
God bless Pastor Cliffee. ❤️🙏
I am a Street Preacher but I don't Street Preach with most Street Preachers, because they don't street preach in love, I'm learning a lot from these videos thank you a lot.
Blessed are they who preach the words of God.
While I love this guy, I find the way he preaches to be so funny 😂 the way he gets into the power stance and paints a picture with his hands is just so entertaining.
Prime mantis
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@mitchellc4 - 300+ identical comments on this channel? Sad.
Why is it that salvation requires confessing that Jesus is Lord, and believing that God raised him from the dead?
It's about Jesus, you blind, lost man
@@mitchellc4 Jesus is God.
@@nathanielowusu7688
Who is his God?
Who is Jesus repeatedly referring to as “my God”?
Rev 3
12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
Who is Peter and Paul referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Watching from Thailand
Jesus Christ is Lord and saviour.
Amen
God bless you man. Praying for those who are listening to come to Jesus.
I'm lost for words,, very articulate thought provoking, passionate and well scriptured pastor.. I applaud him,, very loving way to share the gospel in a teaching style way.. Its inspiring.. and yes as it is commented, nobody interrupts him or refutes him,, very effective way to bring others to the one true GOD AND SAVIOR, THE MAN JESUS CHRIST
@@thechosen2545 You are the second person that says this to me, is this revelation directly from the umbilical cord as I call it of the LORD through the HOLY SPIRIT.. Perry Stone Ministries spoke this word to me and this same words were spoken to others in the comment section as well. How do I know the veridity of it, please excuse me for questioning it but I'm skeptical to take it at face value
God bless pastor Cliffe!! 🙏❤️
@@thechosen2545 You sir are a wolf in sheep’s clothing praying on the innocent people, extorting money from Pastor Cliffe and I will be doing everything in my power to send you to the authorities. Turn from your wicked ways and repent Jesus still loves you and can renew your heart. He makes me to lie in green pastures, I shall not WANT! You worship money and are ready to give your soul to ah devil that whispers in your ear.
B- basis
I.- instructions
B- before
L -leaving
E- earth
The buybull
The goat herders guide to the galaxy.😂
B- brain-dead
I- imbeciles
B- believe
L- lame
E- excuses
Leaving Earth? Where are you going? Another planet? Because after death there is only the dark oblio!
B - Bullshit
I - Insane
B - Bogus
L - Lies
E - Erroneous
@@johnhines1336 That ain't right... the Bible's the truth, otherwise why the heck would God have written it...
Beautiful teachings, may GOD bless you
I hope all Muslim and atheist should watch this explanation by clif.
Cliffe you are so smart..explaining concepts so easily...love it
@3:50 “and if you believe that he’s a hunk of primordial slime...” LMAO OMG 😂😂😂 the guy just standing there.
Lol he does that :D
Just got violated
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
I just subscribed listening and watching the love expressed by this man of God..
@@LookOutForNumberOne What reason does he have to be a charlatan? Why go around on college campuses speaking about a God who doesn't exist when that can't bring him any personal gain?
Wow....so glad this gentleman blessed us with these breakdowns of the Bible....beautifully done
Wonderful witness, loving and peaceful; yet intelligent and to the point. Nothing was condemning and young people were drawn to simple explanation of TRUTH.
Thank you for your witness and demonstration of the love of Christ!
God bless grace community church!
This is a very civilised and educational debate.
Beautiful answer ! Can’t stop listening.
Wow saw small parts of his conversation & preaching in Tiktok. Wanted to see more of him in my FYP but only saw like 3 clips. I’m glad this popped up in my UA-cam recommendation. Wow Praise God 👏🏽
God bless you Cliffe 🙏
Thank you brother Cliffe 🙏❤️ your so intelligent and you have the wisdom of God ❤️ i've learned alot
Thank you sir for being understanding and helping people to understand. I Bless you
Thank you for allowing God to use you!
I love these talks so much. It really stimulates my mind . I have my own debates within these conversations although I may disagree with people talking It can still bring out perspective . I am a god fearing man . I love these talks and what you are doing. Keep it up
This man is just inspired me to the point where I can’t stop watching this video I’ve been here all day you’ve blown me away I think you’re the worlds smartest man ever I wish I could meet you I could probably listen to you all day you are the man I’m a believer but spend most my life backsliding but this is amazing teaching for everyone keep it up your doing amazing work helping people 👍
Cliffe is a real 1
Yes, the same God that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, put on flesh, sacrificed Himself, for the sake of the world! Praise Him!
Let me ask you a question and I hope you will give a good answer from your mind. My question is do you have any evidence of god's sacrifice?? If not then all of this makes no sense that person is just wasting his and others people time. It's all Bullshit!
@@ShivendraXsingh when you have stated a clear, and albeit angry opinion on the matter at the end of your comment, do your think that deserves your time?
I am SO thankful that I’m not an atheist anymore. I can’t believe I was fooled by these ridiculous, self-serving arguments for so long. I’m finally free of professing myself to be wise but becoming a fool.
John 12:26
If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.
Preach Pastor Cliffe 🙌
Glory to God Jesus Christ !!! Amen
Cliffe needs his own “change my mind” booth.
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
God cannot lie, but I must know why He allowed a lie to exist
@@abashedsanctimony154 (Truthfully), that is easy why, but a long reply. If you want to know, I will copy n paste the answer or email.
Cliffe has terrible arguments that have long been disproven to be reliable
@@abashedsanctimony154 how do you know god can’t lie? Or is this a case of “god is right because he’s god” regardless of whatever it may be
I would love if he came to my University. He'd manage some very interesting conversations for sure
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Jesus Christ!! University? Maybe he can visit at Christmas time wearing a Santa suit. You'll have some very interesting conversations for sure.
Maybe instead of talking with kids(young adults) he should talk with actual renowned intellectuals, ie Richard Dawkins
How have I not seen this guy till now? Subbed
Same
100's of Videos
AMEN, Great apologists are brought forth by the LORD these days, the LORD BLESSED YOU...🙏🙏🙏
im glad he allowed comments.. THANK YOU.. and my comment is that no one is righteous, according to the scriptures, and will end up in hell unless they are saved. Thus all need a Savior. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ because he is that Savior. Why didn't he answer this way when the guy asked why would he believe in Jesus, seeing he doesn't believe in religion. I think the guy just needed to have that reason for why we are a Christian as Christians.
Even though you are right, Cliff has done this for decades and he doesn't get everything right because he's not perfect either, but being on college campuses as he is he does bring up just what you said numerous times but a lot of times the kids are interested in philosophy or discussing it out as if it's a.m. debate or thinking exercise that trying to say it so if you just give him the facts of scripture which is absolutely true of the Gospel Noah may they be turned off too quickly but their brains don't function that way see you try to leave him in with the philosophy but especially with the critical thinking and then they can be moved towards the direct thinking of the gospels and its message.
@@godislove363 yeah.. but really it moreso caused him to misunderstand the kid after the discussion continued and it played out worse.
Yeah God bless this man
This guy almost looks like wretched and he has a similar style of public conversation
Exactly my first thought. Was "whoa that wretched guy put on a few years I guess".
You talking about Todd Friel ? Lol cool
I really enjoyed listening to you please make more videos.
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
Amen n Amen, Bro.CLIVE !
God has created the best mystery of all time.
It’s really unfortunate that the Chinese guy didn’t understand the Mount Rushmore reference. That was a good point.
It wasn't a good point. He just rephrased William Paley's watchmaker analogy, which is simply an admission of scientific ignorance. It's an argument that's been refuted many times over, and it relies on the limits of human understanding to invoke a god, who is also supposed to be beyond our understanding, thus we can't assert a deity.
It was a very good point. Limits or no limits, the chances of such a creation being random and yet so perfect defies even scientific explanation. It is more rational to believe in intelligent design than not to, unless of course a person chooses not to
@@jamesfortin4525 The point was not so much to point to the existence of God but get the guy to use his own logic uniformly across all things.
It didn't work because God made the mountains too in this example. Why do the faces stand out as designed, but not the whole mountain?
@@kofiashiboe-mensah686 I don't agree with the premise that the universe is perfect. So what then?
God gave you a freedom of choice I behoove you to do the right thing repent your sins and follow the commandments. Here these words O Israel...
Amen.
u sure about freedom of choice there pal?
because i dont remember being asked which parents ,country , body do i want,nor was i asked do i want to exist to begin with .
@@andrewmuse2756 bro don’t be like that, u know he means in regards to your actions 🤦🏾♂️
UA-cam recommended me this and it blessed me! God bless you Pastor! I'm from CT as well!
Wonderful Truth
These kids have some serious questions and the way they think but Cliffe is a very smart guy he needs to be the perfessor for these kids.
All praise to GOD. the FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRT. Please put all your trust and faith in the
KING OF KINGS the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
And keep the sabbath day along with the other 9 commandments
Why?
@@noahmagallanes5853 because God says so
Wow, this guy is still going. Gotta respect his determination.. I used to watch this back when I followed organized religion.. I'm free from that now, but I respect everyone's beliefs.
So you follow disorganized religion? A road to chaos. Blessings
@@larryluch8178 This is probably one of the lamest responses I've gotten in a very long time.. I don't follow anything... Especially man made organized religion.
@@hereistruth4440 neither would l follow a man made religion. But I’d like to be a member of the Church that Jesus founded. The church He established to go teach all nations. The go it alone philosophy is not what Jesus preached. Many who claim to have the light of the Holy Spirit are suffering from delusions. Jesus left a teaching church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.
@@larryluch8178 Programming from a belief system which was put together by primitive men. It's okay, I was there at one time. Sure I do believe in a creator, only difference is that I don't subscribe to man made books as having all the answers. Bible is just an alagorical book, plagerized from many religions and spiritual systems that predate it. It's clearly man made, but I understand the power of religion and beliefs.
@@hereistruth4440 For instance you could not say any of the Gospels or the writing of St Paul is primitive. If Jesus rose from the dead then we can accept His teachings. 10 apostles met gruesome martyrdom rather than deny the resurrection. Can we trust their testimony? I do but we have free will to weigh up the facts and decide! Jesus mentions Noah and there is evidence of a worldwide flood, well hidden by a controlled media. I wish you every blessing in your search for truth.
I subbed right away. Good stuff! To Jesus be the glory!
"God reveals Himself through the Bible". This is the Truth. "You shall know the Truth and the truth shall make you free" thank you Lord
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾LOVED THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! Be bold for God bro!!!! This was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Cliffe, for another interesting and informative video.
Hey Brother good to see you.
@@godislove363 you too bro. I haven't been on Cliffes videos for a while up until now.
@@GraftedOliveBranch yes I know and I have not either due to serious family business.
@@godislove363 fair enough. Working out your family issues is obviously a main priority.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 good bro... Yourself?. Still fighting the good fight against the career trolls?.
They want to believe in ANYTHING but anyone who might hold them accountable for thier choices in life making up arguments as they go or posing questions to avoid the obvious truth God exists and he is someone who is the ultimate standard of morality
Is that the same god that sent 12,000 warriors to Jabesh Gilead with orders to kill everyone including women and children besides virgin women to be given to the men of Benjamin? Hmmm wonder why we don’t commit acts of pillaging today! God seems to condone it! And that pillaging instance isn’t only seen in the book of Judges either 😉
Can I bring in how forced labor should be a given to those who open their gates up for the invaders? That’s a great one in Deuteronomy
Exactly, humans are driven by a common ground of what’s good based on the basic functionalities we’re born with. Is it really so hard for you to believe there’s a possibility there isn’t an all knowing being governing the universe with a set of rules, making everything equally meaningless or meaningful
my issue with god believing people is when asked who created god they either say nobody or he always existed .
But ironically have a hard time processing that may be the universe also just existed or nobody created it
@@andrewmuse2756 ahhhhh logic *hissssesss*
@@andrewmuse2756 yeah some people seem to think they can just choose and be certain of one possibility out of the hundreds
@@andrewmuse2756 vice versa. How can you say that something has to have made God when your belief in the existence of the universe revolves around something that was created out of nothing
@@OceanAPG wrong. I didnt type universe was created out of nothing. I said it always existed . Just like God.
If i ask where did god came from or who is the creator of.god. Christians will say he always existed or he just popped into existence from out of no where.
Similarly the universe always existed or it just popped into existence like god.
Cliffe´s great. He still hasn´t gotten past some literal issues, which takes modernizing. As a progressive, I got my liberal arts degree in bio anthro, was an interfaith seeker, a big fan of Daoism and Buddhism, doing a lot of 12 step group and self-help relationship work. I first engaged with a healing and effective blessing denomination, Christian Science, and began sampling more regularly the range in a big city area. I also value Unitarian Universalist interfaith, and with that foundation, knew how love involves learning, and figured out that that was Jesus´ central message. Not, "I am the truth...(therefore exclude everything and everyone else)" It turns out that Jesus also taught a few things more specifically like "go and learn..." Matt 9.
The way Christians took up ancient Greek philosophy early on, and up to monastic schools is another basic feature of immediate and long term Christian modernization. By now, with Luther´s inspired Reformation, even more fragmentation has occurred, with the monk T Aquinas acknowledged and even made a mascot of the Catholic church denomination. However, he was the pivotal University-based figure for Christians and Luther himself. By now, merchants et al led colonization and Universities got spread, which spawned Gandhi´s interfaith and powerful example, as WWi and WWII led to FD Roosevelt´s Social Gospel vision and legacy in UN human rights, and now sustainability and Civil Society NGOs.
United Church of Christ and other progressive denoms and groups all go far, although Cliffe´s belief in the supernatural is not often promoted by progressives. I´ve seen that as crucial to advance, and had to develop actual terms like Multidisciplinary Philosophy with empirical methods and beyond natural methods in physical and life "sciences," psychosocial subjects, and then spiritual-religious phenomena and knowledge. That´s actually then where individuals get spiritually empowered and can influence churches with their doctrines. Universities are a kind of spiritual sleeper cell in Jesus´ legacy.
Every one chooses their god. Their god can be themselves or the money or...etc. but in the end they find a god to follow. GOD is who we should look to and follow. He who is divine. He who provided us a path to an everlasting life.
"You know." That's all I heard from the second guy.
I agree you know
He was probs just nervous.... Heck, I'd be stuttering out my arse, were I to take part in one of these public speakings, face redder than a tomato, hotter than the sun (。_。)
His heart was in the right place and he was respectful, wouldn’t hurt to be respectful back
Prolly just nervous and had a hard time finding words. You know, so, uh, um, etc are all filler words to let the mind find the correct words
the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
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Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
He paid the debt for our sins, he died for us, it should have been each of us on that cross. He died for our sins past present and future although some will argue with that, it’s grace. Believe, repent is a change of mind in the original language. Believe, and you WILL be saved. That’s all you need to do is believe. The gospel is in Corinthians. He gave us a gift we do not deserve and he will not snatch it away. Once you are saved there is no snatching you from his hand. I hope this helps someone out there
Amen.
No help at all Courtney.
Its just the same old mumbo jumbo nonsense.
The idea somebody died for your sins his just ludicrous.
Denny is wrong.
@@godislove363So prove to me I am wrong Jacob.
“Jesus died for your sins.” I know, this is an all-time Christian favorite. But even if you buy into the concept of substitutionary atonement (the idea that God set Jesus up as a sacrifice to make good for all the bad stuff we’ve done), this is a abysmal way to introduce your faith to someone. I didn’t ask Jesus to die for me.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp and God gives you the free will to say no or refuse the Gift. If your heart was really sincere God will make Himself known. I assure He is real. As for the Sacrefice, you need to study the Old Testemant to understand. If you really wish to discuss it, I will be happy to.
What obviously these kids are twice as smart, the guy hits a wall every 10 seconds.
God bless Cliffe !
Nice to see the communication here. Very Respectful. Just my observation, I've noticed many young people believe it's all about them. They question everything except for what they believe. They have faith in their intellectual selves. Morals are just dust in the wind. Do as you please. The world needs to see to believe. Many young people go with majority. Their strength is their weakness. The Ultimate sacrifice is Love. It is easy to Love those who Love you, but to Love those who hate you takes more than just you. Christ Loved the world. I am un-deserving. Thankyou
@@thechosen2545 I've run into you again. Can you be honest, why do you keep soliciting donations in the comments?
I love watching cliff get frustrated trying to explain hahahahaha. I love it.
Can you explain your own worldview and give a rational defense for it? My guess is that you would find it difficult and may become... frustrated! Hahahahaha?
@@jessebryant9233 I share the same worldview as cliff. The Bible is the most reliable explanation of reality that exists.
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I agree. But that doesn't mean it isn't challenging or frustrating when attempting to explain, does it? (I was confused by your "hahahahaha" bit. Were you making fun or merely identify with and going, "That's so true!")
@@jessebryant9233 I was laughing because I feel his frustration. Sharing in the suffering so to speak. I try talking to people about God and the reliability of scripture all the time . But people are so wacko only their beliefs these days. They don’t realize that have no basis from which to stand on
@@patrickrutherford5553
Generally, any time you try to get down to brass-tacks you discover that most folks (including believers) take so much for granted and simply can't give good reasons for what they believe about anything. Too many Bible "stories" in church and "the culture says so" nonsense; too little critical thinking and too often, virtually no apologetic. Thankfully, the Church seems to be waking up. Hopefully it isn't too little, too late.
Came here from randomly seeing a video on tiktok. I enjoy debates as such. I'll love to see the IUIC vs this guy.
Random works sometimes maybe divine guidance
@@paulwilfridhunt please tell me what's that supposed to mean in context of what I expressed?
@@OKLAHOMALOVE2 Perhaps I misunderstood you. I got the impression that it was a fluke that you came across this video. And if it was then from the point of view of one who believes in God, it can be seen as divine guidance. But now that I see you are an atheist I can see that you won’t see it this way.
@@paulwilfridhunt oh no, it was I who misunderstood you. I do believe in God and yes, I believe it was meant for a reason that I came across this video. I just will love to see him debate with others that are familiar with the bible as much as he is. I believe it'll be great content but more so a good lesson for us all. My apologies for misunderstanding you.
@@OKLAHOMALOVE2 the fault is all mine. Yes Cliffe and son are great. We have all learned so much on how to defend our faith. Great you are a believer.
Excellent discussion as usual. I asked this question in a previous video, it went unanswered. It would be good to hear any response from a Christian perspective. Q: Which of these 2 commandments would have been more beneficial to mankind from God?
1. Thou shalt not enslave another human being as thy property, regardless of color, creed, faith, or culture, for it is an abomination unto God.
2. Remember the Sabbath.
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Tom.. Good to see your here 😂..
Thought I'd check in and see where the usual suspects are and what we're discussing today.
Just me and you I guess. 😂.
Can you explain your 1st commandment?
Is this a real commandment .. Broken down?
Or
Is this a new commandment based on observation of humanity and society?
@@thywillbedone3334 As you read those 2 commandments Thy will Be done, which one of those do you regard as being more beneficial to society/mankind as a whole? Does that 1st commandment not sound logical and sane to you? .. this is the point I'm making, .. you'd think that it *would* be a commandment from God, but it's *not* . If you were going to write a list of things that mankind should/should not do to one another, does it not sound reasonable to ensure that mankind should not own and enslave other people as their property. Especially knowing how mankind have treated other people as their own property.. to do with as they wish.
That's probably why the question threw you perhaps, because it's not one of Gods 10 commandments. Do you think it would be a worthy commandment? ( sorry, did you tell me your first name.. it seems odd calling you 'Thy will Be done' ).
Thanks for responding.
You miss understood me my friend.
I know that 1st commandment is not from God. I wanted to make it clear between us and anyone who reads this.. Because I don't want you pulling a "uno reverse card" when I answer your question 😂.
Before I answer.. Are you putting these 2 commandments against each other.. Or are you saying which one should be omitted or included?
@@thywillbedone3334 Yes, you could say I'm putting those 2 commandments against each other in terms of what would be more beneficial to mankind as i stated in the question.
Clearly keeping the Sabbath is not a moral question as such, it's very much open to question depending on your faith whether or not you regard saturday as the sabbath or sunday? .. I guess at the time it was just meant that it was important to keep one day of the week aside to worship God. There is the famous story in the Old Testament of the man gathering sticks on the sabbath, and he was stoned to death. But that's a whole other can of worms.
I'm simply asking which one of those 2 options would greatly benefit mankind?
The pastor does make some fascinating points.
So much respect for those who listen not to debate but to understand. I certainly didn’t listen to anyone’s points on religion when I didn’t believe in God.
I think 🤔 he speaks the truth about Jesus 😊 the problem is the devil is speaking to people all day long through tv 📺 music and other influences
I can't get over the guy's face in the background at 12:50
That dude creeped me out the entire video when he'd pop up. I'm like is this dude the local ex dealer or something he walking round with a stable of ladies and this weird 40yr old man vibe.
8:40 to me is a prime example of people falling into the belief of knowledge . Yes we know the cause of Mount Rushmore but we to act as if we fully know the cause of the universe based on the Big Bang theory is odd. The great architect (GOD) is not some simple thing to understand. Pastor is trying to deploy the idea that without the knowledge of the creation of Mount Rushmore we may draw conclusions that are totally false because the cause is so abstract . If you know what I’m trying to convey.
If God is more complex than universe then from where did God came from???🤭🤭 It's all bullshit!. Hard truth is "Evidence of any religious figure has not been established" so we all arguing about something that we can't prove or even say that he even existed. This man is just wasting the time of those people.
You missed the point. The point was simple. Something doesn't come from nothing. If the universe and all life exists. . . however it began. . . .it had a cause. He is just trying to get people to step one. . . "Does God exist?" Either it's yes. . . .we can logically conclude there was an intelligent driving force and cause. . . then by all logical and deductive reasoning we can conclude there is a God. The only other option you have is to throw all logic and I mean all reason out the door and recognize there is no purpose, no design, and no objective outside your biological existence to suggest any meaning. And the next time something happens bad in your life. . . .such as you find that your car was keyed or something to that nature. . . you only have one logical response. It means nothing, there is no right and wrong. It's all just individual subjective perspectives. Go you way and find out how to indulge in as much biologically felt pleasure and take no interest in other people. Because there is no cause and effect and reason has no foundation. --- So, there is only two choices. 1. Cause effect proves there is a God and a designer / creator and life has meaning and objective truth. or 2. You and everyone else is an evolved random meaningless blob of cells without any measurable or standard for reality or existence. Romans 1:28 (amplified version) And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or consider Him worth knowing [as their Creator], God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do things which are improper and repulsive, ------ The bottom line is, each one of us will give an account for our lives before the Living God. Justice is a thing. And apart from Jesus Christ payment for sin there is no just payment for your sin. Rejecting Jesus Christ by faith and accepting Him as Lord is the only way out of your terminal situation. Judgement will come. You have a choice.
@@RoughDraftChristianVids You have done a great job of copying and pasting someone's else comment and telling me about origin of universe based on a holybook!. Good luck!
Still I didn't get my answer if so called lord(holy shit Christ) created universe then from where he did came from or who created him? and one more thing next time don't reply me using quotes from your holybook. I need hard scientific proof otherwise keep jurking in front of your lord because he loves you! 🙏🙏
If you are triggered by my above statement : then you have no valid point so follow my last line
@@ShivendraXsingh Your question "Who created God?" is fallacious, man. If you're arguing against God, as presented in the Bible, then you have to acknowledge that God is stated to be eternal. Meaning He has no beginning or end, He has no creator. There's no room to ask if He was created.
You need to be consistent, and properly represent your opposition in refutation.
For you to ask "Who created God?" is to present a different God than the God presented in scripture, as the "God" presented in your question is presupposed to have been created. Stop asking that fallacious question, please. It defeats itself.
If the atheist was right then he would also think that Hitler’s doings were also just “living his best life.”
Obviously that would be false, on so many levels.
Why did god allow Hitler to do what he did?
@@timerson41 everybody has their own free will, it wasn’t just Hitler that corroborated that whole genocide. Highly decorated members of the military were his puppeteers and Germany turned a blind eye to it as well. Then God’s men from different countries came and ended his terror.
@@gilsgarageofficial so what about all the people burned alive? I mean an almighty god who could create this world could have stopped it
@@timerson41 I literally just told you all people have free will, they were forcibly burned by people choosing to do that to them. He is almighty, everybody will be judged according to their works on Earth.
@@gilsgarageofficial why would he do such a thing tho, if he truly is a god, he wouldn't have made such a mistake for a system, if he was almighty he could have just destroyed all evil to begin with. If he was a god his IQ would have been beyond a minuscule humans IQ... therefore he wouldn't have created such a flawed system where bad things could happen. Only reason your logic works is because you're basing god off our reality rather than what a god would truly be... so basically just a more "perfect" version of us humans
Jesus bless you! thank you for the information
I'm excited ahead of watching this.
The most reasonable answer about any unknown is ... "I don't know."
Jesus from the description of the Bible. Is what most would call a man of color. Just as Solomon and other people of the Bible. Back then I think there was more cultural differences than race issues. In those regions tan, brown and black was the norm.
Isn't everyone on the planet a person of color. People have colors upon their bodies that can be descriptive of their physical appearance.
These terms colored people, negro, yellowman, redman, black, Afro American, African American and circling back now to people of color.....
All imply that you are measuring people as Northern European "white" and not Northern European. Why should that be the measure. It implies one is normal, not really needing description, and the other is bizarre or "different" or those people.
To use such terms you are not seeing things from your POV as my family is what I see as normal and other people are different. Instead seeing yourself as different from some idealized normal. Any other family that doesn't fit the normal description is lumped in as collectively different. The only thing we all share is that we are not the normal "white folk"
These terms can be juggled as much as one likes, but they are all pan bizarre. It would make more existential since if you are, Michelle Obama to say, those non dark complexion people next door in Martha's Vineyard are all "people of color" or "colored people" since they look different from myself, my daughters and husband... And we are normal.
Food for thought from a tannish pink guy who assumes all our ancestors came out of Africa.
@@STho205 that’s your viewpoint. I respect it. But, we all use descriptive terms on a daily basis. For example: let’s say you were robbed. When the police arrive they want a description of the suspect. Black male/white male etc. Those are just the terms people use without getting to deep. It has been stated that Africa as a continent has a very diverse DNA makeup. Basically if every other place except the continent we’re to die off. You could restart with the very unique DNA makeup in Africa. My main issue tho. Deals with the truth of the Bible gives a clear interpretation or description of Jesus. How do we take that description and draw a European man with blonde hair and blue eyes?
And correct we are all descendants of Adam and Eve. So yes we would essentially be of one race. With different nations/cultures.
@@dw8730 these distinguishments are mostly visual. Cats are distinguished by hair color, doesn't make them really different as animals. I do not think of myself as brown haired through the day, but neither do I think of myself as skin color X either.
The traits of modern Africans are not the traits of ancient Africans and those with African or European or Native American families of 400 years ago, are not the same visual or even genetic people of their ancestors, as they have ancestors in multiple historic era sources. The peoples of the Mediterranean crescent have little resemblance today as they did 2000, 2500, 4000, 5000, 70000 years ago.
So categorize as you wish, but it 8s just superficial.
What does "God reveals himself in the Bible" mean? Like, you just understand his love and personality? Or you start seeing images of him in the pages? You start hearing things out of the book? Do people actually start to hear things, is that possible? I would like to hear such things..
Legitimate question.. I just don't get it. I believe. But I'm confused when people can say things with such conviction when there's so much evidence of the fact that we don't know what it's like to die..
We can know for certain all these things that we have observed happened and make conclusions and theories about them but we are left with only relying on Hope until death.
Moses, who had first hand knowledge and perspective of God's power died with full knowledge and understanding he would die and be saved and that there's an after life after death because he literally split the sea with God and saw Him in a bush on fire and spoke to him.
Everyone else is just told "yes this happened believe me, but you just have to die and find out."
I have panic attacks most nights thinking of death and being scared of losing my consciousness and memories and ability to think and feel loved and love... which also makes me feel like nothing matters so long as I don't bring upon anything bad into the world. I believe,
I pray, I love. But.. maybe I lack conviction. I'm unsure.
I feel like I can't doubt him. I feel like I believe him. I'm just scared because of the literal possibility of the fact that it could not be.
Like we don't know he is or isn't for real for real. Like... because I can't see him like I can see my hand in front of my face.
But I believe him and hope he exists because I need him to exist.
I beg for him to exist.
God bless you so much! First off, let me write that you are a fighter! I love your last line "I feel like I can't doubt him..." I too felt this same way. As a matter of fact I couldn't eat, I felt hopeless, I thought there was no meaning to life, family, friends, nothing. So much so it hurt my wife, but she with authority told me I NEEDED to get up. At the same time she also asked "How could someone like you, (I was called to be an evangelist for the Glory of God), who preached, etc. Not believe? I didn't know how. I mean, I saw people get healed, God used me to heal people, I've seen demons casted out... why was I doubting? It took me a while but I like you couldn't give up. I started praying and praying and praying and I felt.... Nothing at times. Well the I asked God to let me see a miracle, I did... still so much doubt. But you know what I didn't do? Give up, I knew my God was real. I knew he loved me. He showed me, I've seen too much no matter how BIG the doubt was screaming in my mind.... I didn't stop praying. I asked for prayer and kept going. Until God let me feel him again, let me experience him again. He showed me how awful life was without him and it got me closer to him. I had to learn that faith wasn't a power that we try to believe and God will show up. Faith is believing He will. Don't ever give up, and watch what kind of relationship that will open for you and God. The anxiety I was feeling, I would feel literally weight being taken out of my heart. My life had hope and purpose again. And I got closer to my God, to our God! Glory to him! I was away, I decided not to go to Church and to indulge in sin. And through adversity and doubt, I actually ended up falling in love again with my Creator. Don't be afraid. Give all your worries to the Lord. I'll leave you with this verse my wife left me with: Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
Isaiah 41:10 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/isa.41.10.KJV
P.s. I haven't erased it from our Board since she put it there. God is good! God bless you! I did a prayer for you my friend!
This is one of the repugnant things about religion
Your religion has convinced you that you are in danger , not now, but after you die
And the only way you can be saved , is to believe , the unbelievable, with very little evidence to support its claims
Religion is the poison , and antidote
Luckily , ejected that poison from my mind years ago , so am in no need of the antidote.
Moses was Jewish , so had no concept of heaven and hell , as was Jesus.
It’s doubtful Moses existed , it’s doubtful the story of the exodus is true.
You fear death because you’ve been convinced that death is not the end , when there is no evidence to suggest that is the case.
Death is the price we pay for living ,
What lives, must die
It’s a natural part of life
I imagine death will be like I was before I was born , or if you’ve ever had a operation like being under anaesthetic.
You will not know you are dead
You will have no fears, no hopes, no dreams, no wants, no needs
You, will not be, and the world will just keep in turning.
I would direct your attention to enjoying the life you have now , take joy in nature, your family , your friends .
👍 good luck
Take a deep breath and understand God loves you he knows your pain and your confusion and knows everything about you he knows every hair on your head or the lack thereof hitting on your situation because I'm bald, but my point Aesop's Fables very clear about God's love and taking care of you both now and when you die the Bible is very clear what happens when you die a lot of scriptures in describing you don't go directly to heaven when you die you sleep and it is clear in the Bible when Christ comes bring his living and dead in Christ home then you'll be in heaven until then death is like a sleep the dead know nothing they have no suffering no pain no dream nothing but when Christ comes in the blink of an eye you're open and you'll see him and you'll feel the glory from him and you'll be able to go to heaven and rain with him it goes on from there. Trust in him trust what it says in the Bible.
@@godislove363
Is that aimed at me?
Have you any evidence that this god of your exists?
Not just assertions about what you believe about the concept and f what a god is.
@@mickqQ did I attach your name to this no I did not I have respect we parted ways with you I wouldn't have done that unless I was telling you. Also if you read the opening post, then you'd know my post is in reference to them to bring them peace which you need not worry about since you don't want to know of God which is your free will choice oh, I don't know why I think it's past the post name to my post it should since I put the comment comment directly on their initial post.
This man's reasoning is good!!
Amén Brother Cliff