Give Me an Answer - Do We Decide What Is Moral?
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- Опубліковано 6 січ 2023
- Program 3322 ................... - Cancel Culture - Forgiveness - Eternal Life ..............
Recorded at Texas State University - October 2021.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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They almost always walk away when things start making sense.
@@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS Lol because the Earth just popping into existence is not impossible magic nonsense.
@@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS dudes name is mind your own business and he can’t even do that himself 😂😂 what a hypocrite
@@fatboy111989 Oh LOOK! Its a discussion on philosophy and theology, and the theist is slinging mud instead of argument! What a position worthy of compliment! Oh you cant 'Evan 'scribe a' comment without an ad hom!
@@AshleyOssant Indeed! And yet its the Theists that think this is what happened, is it not? What about the magical entity they claim is responsible? Oh? THAT just 'popped into existence'?
Yeah, no, I don't believe impossible magic nonsense, thats why I don't hold the position you attempt to project upon me, AS THEISTS ALWAYS DO.
@@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS
If you are a theist, then you believe in magic.
If you believe in magic, then magic explains everything.
How did this planet form before there were any stars in the entire universe? Magic.
How did the earth populate with vegetation before our sun existed? Magic.
How did humans originate from the dust of the ground? Magic.
How did Balaam have a 2-way conversation with his donkey? Magic.
How did a man survive 3 days inside the belly of a big fish? Magic.
How will the stars of the sky fall to the earth? Magic.
Fortunately for theists, the faithful never have to apply skepticism to their God.
“He who is without sin, cast the first sto…”
These kids: 🤾🏽🤾🏿♀️🤾🏻♀️🤾🏾♂️🤾🏼♂️
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Lol
Love this 😂
After Jesus said, that the first people to cast their stones to the ground were the oldest to the youngest. The oldest have the most sins. That’s why the youngest were not full of mercy.
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isn't it amazing how the audience has changed in demographic over the years but cliff's message in delivering the gospel has never changed !
Ok then. Sounds like the Bible has all the answers. With this debate that’s been going for some time now on guns and gun rights, can you point to the part of the Bible where it tells the right answer so we can finally end the debate?
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Sure, and while I'm at it, I'll point to where it tells us what shirt to wear on a Tuesday. 🙄
What kind of logic is that dude? No one said it had the answers to EVERY question. But it does have the answer to the most important question of all.
@@8thMusketeer really? Nothing about chemical weaponry, biological warfare, weapons of mass destruction? Hmm, seems a pretty big opportunity for a supreme being to maybe dedicate even one sentence to it in the Bible? He DID bother to tell us what not to wear, after all…🤔
Can you give me an example of something the Bible teaches us that we’d not know without it? Being the cornerstone of just about everything (according to Peterson) I’d imagine there are many things we’d be lost about if we didn’t have the Bible to guide us. Probably pretty easy to give just one example, no?
@@Tennethums1
Nobody ever claimed the Bible was a science textbook, so why on earth would it start talking about bio weapons out of the blue? Again, what kind of logic is that? I've spoken to many atheists, but I don't think I've ever heard any of them come up with such an absurd argument. (Also, seeing as how Jesus told us NOT to murder each other, telling us how to make weapons of mass destruction... to murder each other, seems a little counter intuitive)
"Can you give me an example of something the Bible teaches us that we’d not know without it? ... Probably pretty easy to give just one example, no?"
How to get right with God.
@@8thMusketeer But that’s just it isn’t it…the Bible DOES tell us what to wear, it DOES tell us what kind of foods to not eat, no tattoos, stone your children to death if they talk back…that kind of insightful stuff…but nothing of any real use or any reference to a future society who’s troubles and calamities might be far superior to some desert dwelling buffoons.
Don’t kill? God killed EVERYone (just about). He ordered the massacre of so many people it makes Hitler look like a Saint. He gives us plenty of reasons why we SHOULD kill one another.
So no, none of that is useful and in fact, it only complicates things further.
The Bible tells us how to come to be with God? But, the Bible isn’t even required for that, right? Isn’t that written in our hearts? Aren’t there plenty of people who have never read the Bible (like you) who have still come to “know Jesus”?
I don’t know, man. I still find no reason to believe the Bible is anything but a fairytale, contains no information we haven’t figured out for ourselves (and surpassed any “knowledge” it purports) or is necessary. 🤷🏻♂️
Nobody ever claimed it was a science textbook? Then why all the backlash against Evolution?
Sweet Lord he's got patience
😂😂😂😂😂dude fr
Foreal !! I love Jesus but I prolly would’ve fired on dude 😂😂
Gotta have patience when you're that deluded over a fairytale.
Especially that guy who comes in at around 20:00! He’s still
there 6 minutes later 🤣
@@user-so2mj8cj1eMay God soften your heart in due time.
That one girl saying "God would never forgive that!" Has some hard Bible studying to do.
Is still a little girl
It's pride.
She thinks that her sins aren't as bad as someone else's, and that sure God could forgive her sins, but that other guy, no way, his sin is super bad, how could g6od forgive it?
It's prideful thinking that she somehow is more worthy of salvation
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Even in cancel culture the gospel of Jesus Christ stands out as unique and a necessary message. Keep up the great work Cliffe and Stuart!
Satan loves you
Keep in mind that darkness always reveals light. If you take a flashlight, The brightest flashlight out side on a beautiful bright sunny afternoon and shine in the sky you will never see the light but if you take that same flash light or even the dimmest light out in the darkest of night and shine it, the light will not only be visible it will catch your attention. Because darkness is designed by God to reveal the light.
@@godssheep3959 this is a good anology and its really good one. God is good.
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@@jesuscaresaboutyou100Amen
That arrogant preprogrammed "moral superior" rage the crowd had when he mentioned his friends was hilarious, I bet many in that crowd sees no problem with hating conservatives or christians but when the preprogrammed trigger words are brought up ohh noo thats the ultimate evil.
They know they can get away with it because they know Christians or conservatives aren't going to retaliate. Our god who doesn't exist commands us to be loving and compassionate.
Lol oh really perhaps someone should have told him dear 👇👇👇
*JOHN 1:9,11*
"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, *do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his WICKED* *works"*
I would say that a *"date-raper"* was not exactly "abiding in the teachings of Christ" wouldn't you dear 😉
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It appears that the student is more in line with Christs views on the subject than this so called "preacher" 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Christians right 😊
@@twchannel7503 The ignorance and incredulity exhibited by Cliffe is beyond my capabilities
@@trumpbellend6717 gonna explain or just gonna throw out accusations with no basis?
Cliff is the man, God wasn't playing any games when He saved him and his family, I absolutely love your ministry man of God!
what happened to him and his family?
@@Warrior.Apologetics I believe Timothy is saying that God saved them from sinful and meaningless lives and gave them such a beautiful purpose
Love the sinner hate the sin. It’s in the core of Jesus teaching, brilliance, perfection. ❤
I felt Cliffes frustration with last guy lol
Absolutely blinded by emotions but Cliff maintained well
Nailed it. So discouraging to see Regressive Left over boundary by cutting people out who break certain taboos or lines, in this case racism and sexual transgressions.
If we all held to that, we would fill up a penal colony of the Banished(Canceled) the size of a continent.
These people act like they've never done wrong and they're perfect. I hope we can all learn to examine ourselves more than others.
I know I’m guilty of doing this or I want to act perfect all the time and I know that is not God’s will. 😢
@@liliango52 Hey man at least you're self aware of it. You'll be alright.
When a person is soo deep in sin, they can no longer see or feel it.
@@AGR091 can you feel it?
They cannot fathom loving their enemies - so you now see how hard it is? To forgive those who have been so lost as to hurt others?! To care about their salvation…. It is NOT easy. These guys think love is to agree. It’s not. I pray for all of these younger people to be affected by Cliffe! 🙏🙏🙏
It is not the healthy who are in need of a doctor... it was sad to see how they were so quick to reject others rather than try to help cure their sickness
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Lol oh really perhaps someone should have told Jesus dear 👇👇👇
*JOHN 1:9,11*
"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, *do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his WICKED* *works"*
I would say that a *"date-raper"* was not exactly "abiding in the teachings of Christ" wouldn't you dear 😉
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It appears that the student is more in line with Christs views on the subject than this so called "preacher" 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@robertmitchell-tv5yf well…. God does and it’s not about our “works”. He already knows how much we struggle to follow these laws - which is why Jesus has already paid these debts for us to be forgiven and live with Him. It’s through true repentance when we sin and for us all to have changed hearts so that we strive to be more like Christ every day. Our belief, faith and appreciation for his sacrifice and guidance leads to our ultimate forgiveness.
This would have been the perfect moment to talk about what, "love and pray for thy enemy," truly means.
This is well said.
Lol oh really perhaps someone should have told Jesus dear 👇👇👇
*JOHN 1:9,11*
"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, *do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his WICKED* *works"*
I would say that a *"date-raper"* was not exactly "abiding in the teachings of Christ" wouldn't you dear 😉
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It appears that the student is more in line with Christs views on the subject than this so called "preacher" 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why did god kill sinners but Jesus didn’t?
@Chopchop55 anytime God has decided to kill, Jesus fully agrees with. The commandment is properly translated from Hebrew 'do not murder' instead of do not kill because there is a clear difference between the two words. Jesus existed as God before he entered into his physical body through the virgin birth.
To answer your question directly, God kills when it is just, and he sees (because he is all knowing) that for those people, there is no chance in the future that they will turn away from evil of their own free will. For example with Sodom and Gomorrah, the people in those towns were being given a chance to not be destroyed, which would happen if God found 10 rightous people there. Just before God destroyed those towns, 2 angels came to warn Lot so he could warn his family, but because two of those family members thought he was joking and therefore did not believe what he was saying, that brought the total number of rightous from 10 to 8. Before this took place, the people living in those towns took notice of the angels (who showed up in human form), and decided to try and rape them (the bible says 'let us have relations with them', meaning sexual acts. Sexual acts without consent is obviously rape), and had committed other sins they were not turning away from as well.
@@trumpbellend6717 that’s either a very bad translation or you quoted the wrong scripture. That is not at all what John 1:9,11 says.
One unique perspective about this channel: These street conversations that are open to different perspectives talking in the open. Searching for what is true in Christ. Love it.
With respect, Art, but if you don't know how a reasonable person could present arguments/evidence against your chosen (PRIORI) assumption (which I would describe as 'you want to believe in, what amounts to from my perspective as 'magical thinking'') to shift your position, then perhaps you're not as 'open' as you'd like to think.
What WOULD I have to provide to challenge your position/preferred belief?
Having one can prevent you from being open to data that challenges it, and if nothing else, I would at least attempt to expose that to -you- and your own awareness.
Been watching Cliff do these back before there was an internet. He did them on access television. They're always interesting.
What does it mean to "search for what is true in Christ?" That sounds like word salad. Also, I've seen Cliffe try to talk to people with other perspectives before. It's genuinely scary. He gets so angry and belligerent, his eyes go all evil... it's genuinely scary. I urge you to expose yourself to some more reasonable and less evil perspectives. The Bible is disgusting. You're better than this. You don't need a book about child-murder that endorses slavery to tell you how to be moral. You really truly don't.
I suggest searching for that which is true "without" the presupposition of a 'living' Jesus. If the claims of the New and Old Testaments are true, earnest inquiry (skepticism) will bear them out _demonstrably._
@@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS Great point. And you seem to be a seasoned and APT skeptic from my view. Keep posting. Peace.
I studied chemistry and chemical engineering/thermodynamics in college. Essentially, what Cliffe was trying to articulate was that if there is no free will, we are slaves to the process of entropy. Entropy is defined by the second law of thermodynamics that “all matter and chemical reactions tend toward a state of more disorder.” In other words entropy (the scientific term for disorder) is always increasing. An example of this that one can see in everyday life is when i put food coloring in a glass of water. When dropped initially, the coloring and the water are separated. As time progresses, the food coloring becomes equally distributed and random amongst the volume of the cup it was put in (randomness and therefore disorder has increased). Every chemical reaction, including biochemical reactions, behave the same way. In order for an atheist to believe in free will, pastor cliff was saying, he must deny the law of entropy, which he cannot do without contradiction. With God however, and the soul, perhaps God can predict entropy in a way that humans cannot, this creating free will for us and omniscience for Him. This is how God can know about us before we are born. Our bodies are physical vessels for our souls. The soul gives way to higher thought, emotion, love, relationships, and concepts of a higher order like justice , loving your neighbor and whatnot. The young man was arguing from a philosophical standpoint, the problem with that is if the soul is real (which it isn’t in his opinion from what i can understand), then when resurrected its a different body but the same soul. I think that is the simple response to that, in addition to cliffes point that all cells in the human body are different every 7 years.
All true lol my thing with him is, he knows that if HE goes through that process HE will become a different person and that is what he doesn't want because he does not believe in God but what's he's forgetting is to go through the process of renewal he would've already had to become a different person one viable for the renewal meaning a believer clearly he doesn't want to be a believer. I think cliffe I hope cliffe noticed that too n that's why he danced around the answer
That's really fucking cool, thanks for typing all that, screenshot this. Appreciate it
Thank you! Love this explanation
Yes, I'm agnostic. The problem is that he conceded on the free will point, so he says he doesn't believe in free will. So the point of contention becomes the nature of consciousness, particularly whether it's metaphysical or physical. The theist speaker's premise relies on the existence of a metaphysical consciousness, and the atheist speaker relies on a physical consciousness, but we don't really have definitive evidence for either stance.
If consciousness is completely brain based, then in order for the theistic interpretation to work the soul would have to be apart from consciousness, and it would be reasonable to assume that the memory and consciousness stored in the brain would not transfer. Memory being in part brain based is supported by mind deteriorating conditions like alzheimers.
If consciousness is metaphysical then the real you would transfer over but it's still not a guaranteed that your memories and so on would. So the issue would then be what is the soul or consciousness that transfers over, and would that really be the real you in a way that we interpret the heart of the self or our identity. For instance, many would say that without our memories of our loved ones and experiences with them, then it wouldn't really be them reincarnating. The question again is what is the soul that is being transferred. Is it emotion or is that physical too? Is it consciousness, but then when I'm asleep I'm unconscious so it's possible that it's not. What part of me and you will reincarnate?
This is one of the reasons that I'm agnostic. I know that much of me seems to be based on the physical, and besides that, I don't really know what the soul is or if it exists. The other primary reason I'm agnostic is because when I have tried to let God into my life I could not truly believe or give myself over, even though I really wanted to, because I kept having doubts.
I find that with even a grain of doubt I am too heavy to bridge the gap keeping me far from God when I try for a leap of faith. I'm a thinker, and unless I can completely believe in God without any doubt whatsoever, I feel as though I could never be one that is close to God.
@@azraelthecasul4882you can always be close with God
The last guy's summary:
"Oh you don't have an actual answer for my hypothetical question about the future metaphysical body? I win! No? Why? Oh well I said...I win! No? Why?" HAHAHAHAHAH pathetic.
The biggest argument I have for him is the soul will remain because it has been proven that your body slowly changes and is completely different every 7 years. Every single cell from 7 years ago is gone, but your memories, experiences, and feelings still remind the same.
Hypotheticals are the last resort for atheists when they debate
Yeah dude really thought he was slick. My answer is this, if you were not going to be the same “you” then it would be pointless trying to live righteously and live an eternal life anyway… So God just wouldn’t bother setting it up. Feel like he just wasted Cliffe’s time trying (and failing) to make himself look smart.
legit wtf is he talking about 😭
What is even the point of his question?
It’s hard to comprehend that these so called “educated college students” can’t understand what it means to love someone even though they’ve done wrong. We’re not going to see a change in the world if we just reject or shun people. If you can truly change just a single person for the better by the grace of God…that’s already making the world a way better place than anyone could possibly fathom.
notice how the gentleman at 15:00 who was convicted of the preaching had his face completely covered-
Proverbs 28:1 - “The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion.”
Whaaah Cliffe hurt my feelings
that's a nice connection there !! thank you !! 🧡
God help this generation.
Help every generation *
Hopefully the help we get is athiesm bringing people back to reality.
Thankful that athiesm is now growing so fast.
@@user-so2mj8cj1e you know you can't live out your atheism when your morals are subjective
@user-so2mj8cj1e have you noticed that as atheism grows, the world gets more and more hateful? With Jesus Christ, we have something to look forward to. We all strive to be that perfect human. With Christ we have ethics and morality.
@@user-so2mj8cj1e atheism is stagnating actually, because atheists dont have as many kids. atheism is not growing. islam is growing rapidly worldwide and christianity is rapidly growing in africa and asia.
I love watching these kids facial expressions and demeanors change when the truth hits them. The guy in the Orange hat and mask that walked away, he had his whole world questioned and broken down in an instant. Painful revelation.
The last kid had me so confused. In fact, I think his lack of rational thought made him spiral down the rabbit hole that he now resides in. His argument was circular at best.
Great content as always! @ 2:02 I personally wanted to ask those kids if they have ever asked for forgiveness from anyone, and also ask them why should anyone forgive them for anything?? Because, if anyone sits down for awhile and actually thinks about all the evil they as an individual have brought into the world it would be hard to believe anyone who knew just a fraction of it would ever even look us in the eyes let alone forgive us. And yet someone knows everything about us, and does both with grace.
Forgiveness is the bedrock of all relationships.
I think that would be a good question to ask! I personally wanted him to ask: If I (a follower of Christ) is not their friend, then who would be there to tell them that they’re wrong in a loving, caring manner? Who would be there to call them out and still be there for them personally? Are you going to support them, love them through their growth? Who would be their to call them out for THEIR benefit?
For me, I want to get to a point where I can be friends with people from all walks of life as Jesus had been, but I struggle making genuine friendships with people. I have a hard time calling people out and being called out, and idk how to find or be the person that does that in a loving manner. I know it takes practice, but it’s starting to do so that I struggle with.
@@oncefortwice1389I'm not religious but I completely agree with this mindset
He gets too complicated for these kids sometimes
Sometimes he should just say
“The reason I forgive date rapists and racists is that I need forgiveness too and so do you”
Instead of going in circles for 30 minutes
@@robertwomack1411You simplified it extremely well. I help out with the youth ministry and am always looking for simpler ways to answer questions for the kids I work with! I will now use this as a short answer for them so thank you!
Whatever you're going through... STAY STRONG !
The boy at the end really thought that he ATE
Keep going cliff. I need to see stuff like this. I am struggling with maintaining my faith in humanity, especially my generation. I believe in Jesus Christ but sometimes I can just feel myself becoming cold towards everyone.
Just some encouragement, go and read the prayer Jesus prayed in the garden of Gethsemane in the gospel of John. Read it and meditate on the words of Jesus as he prays for the disciples and us. Focus on the heart he has towards all of us. Jesus died for us while we were his enemies. Pray to him to help you love everyone else deeply and remember that God cares for the next person just as much as he cares about you
Just lean on Jesus that much more. That's what I do. Life/ stubborn people can wear on you. That and the pull we get from our own flesh.. it's difficult, but God rewards over comers.
I’ve struggled with this, Try Looking for the good and light in people. CS Lewis says once you start to see dark grey as completely black, then you eventually see light grey as completely black. And then eventually white becomes completely black. And then you get stuck in seeing everyone and thing as bad. Even your closest Christian brothers and church family. But this works inversely also :)
I would suggest you NOT profess faith in either this Jesus or humanity. I suggest, instead, to proceed in life with confidence in YOUR ability to reason, judge, assess, determine, inquire, investigate, deduce, and experiment to ascertain that which is true. You have the means, method, and ability to do so. You are a remarkable living, thinking, and loving being. Peace.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Your ability to reason?? Who defines morality? Are you flawed? Do you have the power to make judgement? How do you define evil?
That last guy was a modern example of exactly what the Word means about “Those in the flesh cannot please God.” He isn’t aware of his own spirit, mind, and flesh. He knows his chemical brain meat. His spirit is entirely fleshly. Hes speaking from his flesh, by which his soul and spirit are totally enslaved.He’s blinded by his flesh to the reality of his own soul. His soul and spirit are “in the flesh”. That is why he speaks entirely from his natural carnal mind, and is fearful of getting a new body, because he knows internally he is entirely in his natural carnal body and if his body decays or is destroyed, so is he, because he is entirely in his carnal flesh. And the fear of death holds power over him because his soul and spirit is trapped in his flesh. He needs the Spirit of Christ to save his soul from his own flesh of sin and death. Then he will be free of sin and death, even while he still lives in his body. And He will by that same spirit , be transformed by the Spirit and will of God.
This is probably one of the most difficult minitries. Cliffe is amazing!
"How do I know that ressurected person will be me and not someone else?"
This is one of those weird, highly theoretical, epistemological arguments that seem to develop while the smoke of funny cigarettes still lingers in the air. I could just as easily say, "How do I know that I am going to be the same person tomorrow morning after I have become unconscious for eight hours? Will it be the same consciousness that will awaken from its slumber or a totally new consciousness? Does that even count as me anymore? Why should I even want to wake up if it's not me that will be experiencing tomorrow?" Well, of course, it's you. Sometimes, common sense gets to the bottom of an issue without the need for an epistemological crisis.
Cliffe is amazing for not backing down
I'm not a religious man, but this message is very powerful. Love the sinner hate the sin. It always baffled me how a lot of people couldn't see that they were spreading hate. They think that by shunning people, they are helping the world, but they are hurting the world by robbing the wrong doer of a good influence. Shunning someone is an act of hate. It divides us and allows sinners to keep sinning.
It is the easy thing to do to just discard people and tell them that you are not friends anymore because of their sins. It is difficult to stay and try to plead with them to correct their sinful behavior. These people do not understand that leaving your friend because of his sins is the worst thing you can do to them at that time, because they will never hear the call to become better. They will just stay in their sinful behavior and find other people who affirm that behavior. It's literally what is happening on the internet. Every behavior has become normal because all you have to do is find your little echo chamber where everyone agrees while cancelling anyone who comes in with a differing view.
Lol oh really perhaps someone should have told Jesus dear 👇👇👇
*JOHN 1:9,11*
"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, *do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his WICKED* *works"*
I would say that a *"date-raper"* was not exactly "abiding in the teachings of Christ" wouldn't you dear 😉
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It appears that the student is more in line with Christs views on the subject than this so called "preacher" 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This advice can actually be good advice from a secular perspective as well. I mean, I think sin is fictional disease that the cult sells the cure for, but putting that aside for discussion of your point, I agree - You shut someone out of your life and you end your ability to HAVE A FRIENDSHIP with them, and friends are generally much better influences upon your actions thoughts and attitudes than those negatively regarded.
I would do the opposite to what someone had alienated me wanted, perhaps out of spite.
I wouldn't talk too much about echo chambers however, you've chosen a very specific branch of a very specific cult yourself (why the HEBREW mythos? The Greeks were way cooler, thats what the Romans said, at least :P) but I'm being facetious - I can't resist taking jabs even whilst I'm replying to agree with you :)
@@trumpbellend6717 You did not quote correctly, but it's fine, I got the idea. The passage refers to people that teach a false version of Jesus. It talks about teachers that Christians should avoid trusting. It does not mean that you cut off anyone who goes against the teachings of Jesus. Furthermore, it's a letter that John wrote stating his own views on the matter. It's not what Jesus did. Jesus didn't turn his back to the people who needed him the most, and he addressed false teachers. I will try to do the same.
It does not take a long time to just read the things in context. Also, think twice before posting a comment with a million emojis ridiculing someone while have a vulgar username. It's easy to point fingers and laugh at others while being completely oblivious to one's own actions.
@@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS It's not about what's cooler, but what's true. Although I must admit that the Christian message bodies greek mythos when it comes to being cool, but that's just my opinion.
I do not think you believe what you said. Because you admit there is a thing as people doing wrong. That is what sin is. It's literal meaning is to "miss the mark", which everyone does all the time. You obviously believe in good and evil, which in a secular perspective falls apart really quick if you want to be consistent. You keep referring to Christianity as a cult (not wrong but derogatory), which you obviously do out of spite or to get some sort of reaction. You assume I'm also in an echo chamber which is false. The reason people join echo chambers is to block out opposing views and affirm their own views, as they want their own views to be true. You assume I do that. I do not. I want to hear from everyone and I welcome any opposing views to be presented, even if it's from someone who posts a UA-cam comment while being very emotional ;)
@@whodis799 Edit: I come off as uncompromisingly pragmatic, but I genuinely appreciate that you took the time to respond and engage. My tone would fail to show that detail without this edit.
Ok, well if you want to talk about whats 'True', then you're going to find me being a bugbear empiricist bringing your poetic skytalk down to earth, because where I'm standing, the 'Truth' is what the facts are, and if you want to go around saying something potentially misleading and dishonest as asserting as if true that which is not demonstrable by evidence, then I'll be forced to stop agreeing with you, and withdraw from this nice neutral ground that we can both stand on and perhaps agree that the bible ISN'T just a collection of lies designed to excuse historical autrocities and prevent the priests from having to go out and get -real- jobs whilst they endorse whatever murderous war their king wishes to engage in,
this nice neutral ground where I can generously allow that even with those issues the bible can have educational or instructive value for its illustrative stories and the implied consequential lessons contained within,
and have to argue with you about how asserting as if true that which is not evidently so is known as 'being dishonest' or 'lying'.
And you want to lecture me about sin, assuming, in your hubris to talk down to me from a place of superior knowledge?
I think not.
>Thats what sin is.
No, no it isn't, its a special category of crime, the thought crime against an invisible omnipresent deity.
You know the invisible omnipresent bits are later additions to the character of Jehovah, right?
As in literal character power-creep.
He was indistinguishable from other mountain deities, walked with people, turned his back on people, that sort of thing.
Meanwhile theres other stories like a character who can turn invisible because of a 'magic ring'. When you have a character that COULD be 'anywhere', he is, effectively 'everywhere', for purposes of story telling.
Watch out! He could be listening!
Jehovah became a sky-god partly to keep up in the storytelling stakes.
But no, its not just 'doing wrong', and if you want to project what you THINK I believe instead of -asking- me, you're off to a bad start, but that usually happens when theists try to model my thinking.
Its doing wrong according to what the LYING ASS PRIESTS pretending to speak for god say. The ones that want your trust faith and money, that you are, for reasons I cannot POSSIBLY fathom, allowing to pretend to speak for a character that, by any measure needed, would never need human agents, books, apologists or middlemen to pass on a message.
The very idea you are proposing as true sounds like an absolute diminishment of what I would imagine as being describable as godly. Why do you believe in such a weak, incompetent, impotent version of divinity?
>which you obviously do out of spite
What if someone was clearly in the grip of Satans clutches and doing his bidding?
I don't actually think thats ever a reality, since the character of Shai'tan was clearly ripped off of and inspired by local rival religion to Judaism, Ahriman the accuser, the (left? Right? I forget) hand of Zoarastrias throne, who tallies all your 'sin' and misdeeds in life for your judgement.
But lets put your fanfiction details aside - if someone was in the 'grip of Satan', as, from my perspective you are, I say 'cult' not out of spite, but in an attempt to reach you.
I'm here to provide my perspective and ideas, no more and no less, and to correct perceived errors in statements made, as the most autistic and truth-minded commenters on youtube are known to do.
Just judging by your post length, you seem to have caught a little of the autism too, though perhaps a Jesus flavored version of the virus :)
To put my provocations down to malice is projection on your part, you'll know when I'm genuinely trying to insult you (and I in turn will be insulted if you attempt to project other faults you possess but I do not, such as a fondness for 'faith', onto me).
I appreciate that you're honest or insightful enough to acknowledge that the difference between religion and cult is only the winds of fashion and popularity.
>You assume I do that.
Ill have to scan my words for that particular assertion, I don't remember it, but I imagine a particular statement may have provoked that view.
> I do not. I want to hear from everyone and I welcome any opposing view
If that is true, then you and I can be on friendly terms, since we sort of share that perspective, although I have a few empiricist rhetorical flourishes that I can keep up my sleeves for later :)
Just for thought (along the lines of 'clever rhetoric to chew on') you may not be as open minded as you think IF you can't tell me what a normal, reasonable person with reasonable resources could do, or show you to change your confidence levels in any given position.
(This is pure rhetoric, and I'd genuinely try to make you consider it, rather than refute it. If I don't know what it would take to change MY mind, I'm saying in that scenario, I am NOT openminded or reasonable).
You can tell they’re related 😂 just by how they stand and talk love it❤
Color hair. Masks outside . ❤
This concept was difficult for me for many years. Same arguments as the college students until the truth of Christ's love came through.
People always start to leave when they realize they’re wrong 😭
“Love and acceptance” repeated repeated repeated” in their minds. Yet they can’t see that their “love” is purely conditional. They are so loving and accepting.
I love that you were able to get some of these youth to ask questions. I was most lost in my life at age 21.
I was once like the few in the students who tried to cancel this speaker. It was because deep down I knew he was telling the Truth and I hated it. I wanted to hide and try to ignore it.
Ignorant, hostile, and uncivilized students attempting to cancel a person's message is not evidence that the message is truthful. The true of any proposition must be assessed on its own merit. Any student trying to cancel the free and lawful expression of ideas should be removed from the campus indefinitely.
The random kid running over getting mad because he just realized in his world view he has no purpose.. LOL
This is just like in a lecture room but free at charge
Great job guys, those students seemed particularly argumentative and stubborn! This was a tough video to watch without getting frustrated, so I can only imagine how you were feeling. Superb job keeping your composure and carrying on.
I watch your videos every day, thank you so much for teaching His word 🙏💟
Seemed more like they were just questioning what sounds like bull shit to them
@@castajc82No. They were blinded by their emotions and weren't able to make any rational argument or provide evidence at all. Talking about the guy with the orange hat that walked away and the lesbian couple.
God Bless you Cliffe. I wouldn’t have your patience. I miss you and your family. Still watching as much as I can. Your heart is so full and I hope to come back to CT in a few years and get back to the best Church and people I’ve met!
Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead
@@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs repenting every day!
I'm an SDA & I really enjoyed listening to this, keep spreading the word of God brother 💯
Why are you a SDA? If you read the
Bible we're just supposed to be a
Born Again Christian! That's what I
am! I don't have no Religion or any
Denominations, Friend! I'm against
ALL Denominations! I just follow in
Jesus Christ & what The Bible says!
Nobody should really be a Catholic,
Protestant, Mormon, Pentecostal,
Jehovah Witnesses, SDA, Methodist,
Lutheran, ect.
JESUS CHRIST NEVER STARTED A RELIGION OR NOT A CERTAIN TYPE
OF DENOMINATION!
JUST TRUST IN, FOLLOW, & OBEY IN JESUS CHRIST (a person) & BIBLE !!!
I don't have any Religion with Jesus Christ, I just have ONLY a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, See?
This generation makes me sad. This makes perfect sense and yet they don’t understand. May God bless them and one day open their eyes.
Once we're born again we are no longer sinners we are set apart, saints and of God, perfect in Christ. We still have the ability to sin and if we do we have an advocate with the Father who will forgive us.
Cliffe is blessed by God, a true apologist, this is very nice to see
Interesting that the crowd who screams "love and tolerance" the most are the ones who can't be friends with the wayward according to their own morality.
Thank you for filming these sessions. You have taught me much 🙏
What a great teacher. Love the videos
The patience is amazing.
Excellent video, love it, lots of great talk had here!
As an African woman, I have experienced racism in every race, color (black, Indian, Asian etc)
Yes, that's true. Our culture demands that only white people are racist. That's not true. Anyone can harbor prejudice in their heart. And anyone can change their heart and learn to love their fellow man.
This was awesome , i really enjoy your channel. listening to young adults from all faiths & belief systems engage in dialogue & civil discourse regarding Christianity.
It's intellectually stimulating.
God bless 👐🏼🙏🏼
well done professor cliff thank you for your videos
Brilliant, as always!
Sad to see people not listening
May God strengthen you sir!❤
Always good conversation
Wow! Thank you❤ I've learned new things
Great audience that is extremely rare in this day!! It's wonderful to see this age group intertaining the teaching of the Word!
Thank God for Jesus always!
Truth hits hard
Well done!!
that last guy just went in circles
Hi Cliff & Stuart - these videos give me genuine hope - thanks so much for doing what you do
It's amazing how Jesus's command to love thy neighbor and love thy enemy is still a "radical" idea that people have a hard time accepting
Amazing video. I’ve never been to church but the spirit of Christ is truly within all of us when we choose to forgive others and do right. Thank you for the video Cliffe!
Great job, may God keep giving you more strength and wiadom to spread the seed of His word. Sooner or later there will be fruits.
Another interesting, informative and inspiring episode... Thanks Cliffe.
Is that an honest answer?
Lol
@@jasonnoble7302
It's a statement , not an answer.
@@GraftedOliveBranch
Hey you’re right Ryan
See how how it’s done
Admitting your mistakes is being honest
To bad you don’t
Aww to easy
Lol
@@jasonnoble7302
Speak for yourself, Jason... How come you can't admit all of your mistakes?.
@@GraftedOliveBranch
Do you mean a philosophical mistake big boy ?
God as the source for objective values
The universal structure is the source for objective values
Both claims are question begging
and exactly equal
However you assert the universe structure is subjective
Which I find to be hilarious and an obvious mistake on your part
This generation is confused. I still pray and believe God to save this generation.
And why is that? Could it be because we were born under a family unit that was under attacked, single parenthood, parents chasing money bringing double income but not focusing on raising the kids?
@@simon_ammi Chasing money shouldnt be the only priority of parents, they must not neglect love and support for them. The govt allows these stupid ideologies to bombard the minds of kids until they dont logic and who they are anymore. Govt shouldnt medel in families lives.
This is one of my favorite episodes.
Proverbs 13:20
“Walk with the wise and become wise; associate with fools and get in trouble.”
I admire the Spirit of Boldness that the LORD has given him
Cliff is going up against Satan’s minions
God knowingly created them
So yeah bud
No they're not Sa'tan's minions they're people like you and me
@@justingary5322 , they are people and Satan is their Daddy
@@justingary5322
Justin Dodger
I'm still waiting buddy boy
How does the prediction of an Devine
agent creator increase the likelihood of
balanced speed of light and dark matter
exactly?
How does the God hypothesis tip the
scale of explanatory virtues in favour of
a Devine agent over a not Devine agent?
If we proposed a verity of possible
worlds why does the God hypothesis
predict this universe over any other
possible universe?
Cliff isn't going against them, he's just the messenger.
Great show....as always. Gotta be honest, these kids have more moves than Walter Payton when it comes to evading what they know to be true. God bless the entire Knechtle Family & Happy New Year to you all!!! Also to Grace Community.
I have to agree with your assessment, but would point out he wasn’t having as many moves as Marcus Allen! Haha I enjoy cheering Raiders!
But love more cheering
JESUS!!!
"evading what they know to be true"? What a goddamned lie! The Truth is what the Facts ARE. Without facts, your truth isn't true at all, and is just, like your opinion, man.
You could start by not being such a dishonest liar if you want to be believed.
lol "evading what they know to be true?" How exactly do they "know" it to be true? That's a really rude thing to say considering you have literally no rational justification whatsoever for your beliefs. I don't care how many times the Bible says it's morally righteous to murder children, you haven't proven or even *demonstrated* to yourself or anybody else that your beliefs are true. Please stop spreading lies like this. Lies like this genuinely hurt people and ruin lives. So many lives have been ruined by Christianity and The Bible, and it's never too late to stop participating in this evil and stop rejecting what you actually do know to be true.
May I demonstrate that you will dodge my series of straightforward
questions concerning your faith beginning with THIS one?
@@Theo_Skeptomai not so straightforward.
Who are you asking
And “may i” is simply a request to ask.
If you want to argue- don’t waste anyone’s time. If you have legitimate questions- ask.
But don’t take some random online people not answering as evidence there is no God.
If I play a piece from Bach poorly, it is not proof Bach was a bad composer. If no one plays you Bach, it is not proof Bach never existed.
So ask away- but please honestly answer:
If Christianity is true, will you give up control of your life and become a Christian?
Thank you!
Thank you for explaining lust like that, because I was not seeing it that way, and now it makes so much more sense
7:15 Is deeper than many know the fact is sinners always believe they're better than others. If you ask anyone are you a good person, they immediately say yes, because they compare Stalin, Hitler, serial killer, etc to themselves, thus makes them appear better. Yet, their SINS make them as ugly to God.
I Love Cliffe! And I Love Ray
Comfort! Ray be hitting them
with the 10 Commandments!
How many lies have you told?
Have you ever stolen anything?
Have you ever Lusted at a Person?
Have you Blasphemed God's name?
Have you committed Fornication?
Have you ever hated another person?
@@-D-I-V-A- It was a great proselytizing question sheet, until today sinners ask Ray if he still commits some of the things on his list. He is a liar if he denies. Then they rebuttal, so we are all the same.
i enjoy this man... i myself am not a follower of any religion... BUT the message he sends is amazing and i enjoy watching it
I learn so much from these public conversations. In fact i think it's super important to watch.
That's right
Most people in America these days would save a dog over the homeless or the "invisible" people over the country.
2 Corinthians 6:14 "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness"
That’s in the context of marriage. If you are a believer don’t marry an unbeliever.
@@chriseasterly5142 Good comeback 👆🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾
Cliff, the next opportunity you get to ask, ask the next one to deny the existence of a soul if they can express themselves, to utter even the faintest of sound without the desire to be heard, understood, and the hope of a response.
When the rich man found himself in hell all he wanted above anything was a drop of water (life) to quench his thirst (desire). But with no connection to life (the life giver, God) his desire was only filled with despair.
Love your channel and love what you do sir, you have my respects!!!
That's what I love about Cliffe! These difficult conversations coming from highly emotional people can be so intense!
And he dosent allow it to amp him up he stays logical and coherent very impressive
Forgiveness is an important value on a fundamental level for civilization that is taught best by Jesus Christ. It's the acknowledgement that people can change and relationships can be improved, without forgiveness we have an endless drive for revenge, vengeance for every wrong in history committed by anyone who shares a group identity or idea that tears things down and elevates conflict. We need forgiveness as a core value but also justice for the individual that is corrective and a deterrent to evil.
This atheist agrees with your comment wholeheartedly. Well reasoned and well written. Keep posting!!!
I forgive you
*"Justice"* is most certainly is not attained through Christian theology dear
@@trumpbellend6717 Substantiate that claim in reality, where is the alternative with more accurate ethics? The whims of people do not show the data of producing justice.
@@boltrooktwo You want to talk about "justice" I work hard providing for my wife and 3 kids and spend most of my spare time doing voluntary work with young children ( many of whom are disabled ) the smiles upon their faces the only reward or purpose one could ever need for it to have "meaning"
But under your theology my inability to believe in magic and extrodinary claims and diferentiate them from the many other such extrodinary claims of other "Gods" with differing scripture and "values" derived from them, means that I'm deserving of eternal torture regardless of how I live my life.
A child killer however so long as he truly repents and accepts Jesus on his deathbed he can spend an eternity in paradise with the children he murdered. Unless if course those children also found the "evidence" for your God unconvincing, in which case your child murder would be looking down from paradise on the children he killed as they too suffered for eternity with me 🤮😡😡😡
Is THIS "morality" ? Is this "JUSTICE" ?? 😡😡🤬
Imagine a girl gets raped, they catch the rapist and he gets found guilty in court. The judge sentences him to life, but then says to him "dont worry I will serve your sentence for you"
Has the rapist recieved "JUSTICE" ??
Has the raped girl received "JUSTICE" ??
Of course not yet that is precisely what happens under the Christian vicarious redemption (scapegoating) nonsense ideology 🤬
That last guy is overcomplicating resurrection. When you're raised from the dead, you're the same person in a new body, with none of the frailties of your old one and none of the sin from your old life. How anybody can say that's irrational is beyond me.
Exactly, also another to point out is that God can achieve supernatural feats, ie. resurrecting someone.
I truly don't think a sinful and nonsinful soul can exist at the same so, it would still be you but like 99.9999% different because of how much sin would be filtered.
@Our Savior We're made new in that we become perfect. I don't believe that entails losing your own identity. Three of the disciples even witnessed Jesus talking to Moses and Elijah on the high mountain long after they died. You couldn't know who they were otherwise.
Love this
To the last guy, your soul and mind is what matters weather you are the same person or not, not your body Lmao. Are these guys even students? 😂
Can you define what a “soul” is and its attributes ?
@@jasonnoble7302 a soul is whatever you want it to be, with no evidence to support it.
This young generations display of insane low iQ level is astounding and quite sad.
💔🙏🏻🤦🏻♂️
Really how so ?
15:15 he ran away when cliff was making sense haha 😛
What a coward.
To not want someone to change from evil to good is evil in itself
I can't believe these kids. Jesus forgave the very people that crucified him. He pleaded with his father in Heaven to forgive them because they didn't know WTF they were doing. Is it THAT big of a stretch that he would forgive somebody that was a racist? That's not the same thing as accepting their racist sins. Christians hate sin, but they are not to hate the sinner. Why? Because we've ALL sinned. Christ wants all of us to repent, and he wants us to forgive. Because if we don't, how can we expect God to forgive us? It's not rocket science. All these kids know is to forever condemn somebody who acts against their Marxist ideology while disregarding their own hypocrisy.
That's just silly talk. Who needs Christ's forgiveness when you can just claim your moral inadequecies aren't as bad as someone else's? Watch, I'll show you. "I might have done a few bad things in my life, but at least I'm not a racist." See? Works every time. (sarcasm)
Exactly he's the mailman delivering Christ's message to this younger generation about how we're ALL sinners. AMEN brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless brother Cliffe and Stuart they're my dudes 😎. I really appreciate their Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 22 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution such as speciation and adaptation because there's no evidence of macro Evolution nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
It’s all by design, the communists took over our colleges and schools a long time ago. Slowly dumbing our kids down and indoctrinating them to act on their behalf. What’s even worse and they can’t see it no matter how obvious.
Hi cliff
Cliffe’s patience and eloquence are unmatched.
God is not moral
which leaves us to create morality through agreement.
It's called the justice system.
Wait until you find out what the germans agreed on in the 30s and 40s
This woke generation man… 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
First one was GOLDEN!!! Keep going!!! 🙏🙏🙏
OKAY I JUST WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE "I" CANTTTT have the same patience cliff has
For me what those teenagers were saying is that you need to have these requirements to be my friend:
Dont be rasist
Dont lust over others
Etc.
If you dont have these ill cut you off, NO!
because for me, as a friend i should be there to help them and be a guide to them to the good things and god, if you're friend truly mattered to you, you would say how they're wrong just like how a loving parent would scold you if you did something bad, you help them guide them or teach them a lesson, not throw them away and say "thats a you problem, solve it or we cant be friends" I LIKE MY FRIEND FOR THEM, NOT THE BAD TRAITS THEY MIGHT HAVE, i want them to be the best version of themselves, and as their friend im willing to help them not cut them off like nothing, its like saying you're only friends for the goods and you wont in the bads
Those poor kids needed to hear all that.
👊🏾 my man. #Morality
Yeah
It’s sometimes good to kill infants
My man 😎
🤢
To be saved today according to our apostle Paul, you must BELIEVE/ TRUST that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins,was buried,and rose again on the third day,and He Shed His Blood as payment for all of your sins forever,( you personally).
@Our Savior ,Bless you always.
@Our Savior ,of course I will.
"BELIEF" is merely an involuntary response to one's level of information. Its NOT a "choice" an act of volition, you are either convinced or you are unconvinced and its EVIDENCE that convinces. I could not just make myself believe in pixies no matter how much I closed my eyes and stamped my feet.
Tell me could you right now just "choose" to be convinced that God does not exist or that the laws of gravity don't apply to you if you step off that cliff?? 🤔
No of course not, yet your PERFECT moral reference standard thinks the above is how PERFECT MORALITY WORKS ? 🤮🤮😡😡🤬
Guy in the purple hat took one too many adderalls that day 😂