Give Me an Answer - The Gospel is Foolishness to Those Who Are Perishing
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2021
- Program 0521 ...........................Following a line of thinking - Evidence for Biblical reliability - Events around the Crucifixion - ........................................
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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I'm convinced JESUS is real.
He sure is Amen to that.
@Nosoup899 amen!
Where is this Jesus at this moment?
@@theoskeptomai2535 in heaven.
@@debrabertelli5076 And where is this heaven?
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools…”
Too real
Amen, I haven learned humility through humiliation. “Nothing is worse than to suffer, nothing is sweeter than to have suffered” - Meister Eckhart *paraphrased*
Encouraging that this channel is growing and receiving great views.
Apologetics matters.
Theology matters.
Thank you, Cliffe.
I wish he would use the prophetic texts a bit more, that is some of the hardest evidence of all. Not that I disagree with his current approach, I just would like him to add them in more as examples.
@@Orange6921 Prophetic texts like more verses from the old testament ?
I'm learning how to answer questions from non believer, the same as from the book of Frank Turek. God bless you sir...
we ought to support people like cliff as he is a worker of light as well
beautiful
I love how he teaches them history at the same time
He teaches that a childish fairy story is real.
@@gweilospur5877 Santa is a fairy tail, Easter bunny is a fairy tail, not Jesus. He is a real man who is telling us that we’re in danger, from the devil. That was 2021 years ago and look at what’s happening around the world, in regards to the evilness, just do some research on things and you’ll find a lot of scary shit is going on. Btw the devils job is to device people and get them as far away from Jesus as possible. Ask yourself how well he’s doing to you, and the rest of the world. Think about it. Things get crazier from here on out. Jesus loves you and is waiting for you❤️
@@TickFlicks-You.got.it7 All one big fairy tale. It’s amazing people still believe it in 2021.
@@gweilospur5877 it’s a fairy tail till you need the true evil, what will you think when Anti Christ rises to power?
@@gweilospur5877 crazy how you deny the most written of man in the world and call him a fairytale
I find these wonderfull conversations.
The second guy is clearly very curious and I think you helped him a lot
Trust in the LORD Jesus Christ He will be here soon.
Amen.
Ge better hurry, I'm late on some bills
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@icanfartloud don't worry Jesus paid for all your debts on the cross just trust him.
@@saucetv6430 it’s not just trusting him but abiding in him: so do good works and make sure you are repenting; bearing fruit in His name. Don’t let your hearts be heartened and follow Christ daily. OSAS is a false doctrine.
These were the beautiful years of Cliffe going toe to toe for the Gospel. I learned so much from you brother. God bless you.
These are some of the great conversations. Jesus the way, the truth, and the life. Believe in the redeemer while you have time. God bless you
You sir are a blessing
One filled with word salad and logical fallacies.
@@jasonspades5628 thank you. The dude says nothing of substance. Word salad and bullshit dressing
I am growing and learning so much from Cliff.
Well done Cliff , thumbs up !
Grace and Peace to everyone. The guy who listed supposed internal inconsistencies within the gospels presented an inadequate case. None of what he said falsified the texts or demonstrated any contradictions. His strongest argument was essentially that the gospels can't be trusted because they don't all include the sermon on the mount.
John explained in the final verse of his gospel that all the books in the world couldn't contain the events of Jesus's life, so it's reasonable that the gospel writers would seek to diversify their content so that they could collectively include more about Jesus's life.
I personally believe that the reason why the sermon on the mount is listed in only two gospels is because scripture says that only two or three witnesses are needed to establish actionable testimony. We have those two witnesses of that sermon in Matthew and Luke.
So how do you know that the bible is anything other than stories?
"John explained in the final verse of his gospel that all the books in the world couldn't contain the events of Jesus's life," anyone could just say that. It doesn't make it true.
We don't know that there were any eye witnesses to anything in the bible. All we have is the word of some anonymous scribes
@@colinmatts Grace and Peace to you. I'd be delighted to discuss that with you on Telegram. Email me at StrongerEveryday@gmail.com, and I'll send you the link. I'd post it here, but UA-cam would remove my post as it has done many times before. I look forward to speaking with you. God bless you.
The problem is that the gospel that people in all nations (you and me-Gentiles) need to hear; is not found in Mark, Matthew, Luke and John. The gospel that you and I need to hear, comes from Paul. Paul was the chosen vessel to bring a particular gospel message and method to the Gentiles, to the people in all nations. Paul got it not from men but by revelation of Jesus Christ. Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The Jews had their own gospel message and a particular method to get saved. It was in the first four gospels. Those first four books were written to and preached to, THE JEW, two thousand years ago. You won't find Gentiles having to confess their sins with their mouth audibly and then getting their body dunked fully in water for the forgiveness of sins. Because you and I get buried in baptism. You don't get buried in water.
Paul did NOT preach the first four books when He was sent to preach to the Gentiles. Fourteen years after he was sent to the Gentiles, Paul went up to Jerusalem to show Peter and the other Apostles and disciples THAT GOSPEL that he was preaching. Because it was different. Galatians 2:1 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
Paul's gospel is the book of Romans. Paul's epistles (1 Corinthians through Philemon) are consider the preaching of Jesus Christ kept secret since the world began, but NOW made known by Paul (Romans 16:25-27).
God has a commandment to all real believers who have been sent the Holy Spirit. The commandment is to get established in God's Word the way God shows you to get established in the commandment itself; namely; to START YOUR READING of God's Word AT THE BOOK OF ROMANS, and to get your preaching of Jesus that has been kept secret, FROM PAUL'S epistles, and to also read from the scriptures of the prophets when you read. It is a commandment you are expected to obey by faith.
@@WhatTruthIs Grace and Peace to you. Wow. That was a lot. Would you refer to yourself as a Hyper-dispensationalist?
@@WhatTruthIs Which gospel did Peter preach to the Gentiles in Acts 10:34-43? Also, what gospel did Peter spoil in Galatians 2:14?
Man This guy is good
Glory to Jesus for that!
The level of debate we see here is very rare. Every time One side makes a good point it doesn’t end the argument. Too often today this is the case. This allows a debate to go on in quality and in-depth and for people to really explore their stances and thoughts. I love it!
So much respect for both of these people.
Laugh and call me the fool because I chose to believe in God and creation.
I will be that fool!
But to those who laugh, what happens if you are wrong?
You denied him
Amen Marvin, I have stated that many times as well.
Pascal's Wager is a false dichotomy. It could be that some other "deity" actually exists and you're wrong. What happens? We had ALL better hope that IF such an entity exists, it has far more integrity.
Also, I cannot "deny" what hasn't been shown to actually exist in reality. I can only reject the claims.
@@DRayL_
You can't see God.
You can't see the love bug.
You feel it.
@@marvintalbot6536 just be more correct so he's not confused it's not really like a fuzzy warm feeling but you can sense the power of the Holy Spirit coming over you showing you light showing the truth but only if you're willing to receive it and he's obviously not willing.
@@marvintalbot6536 What you "feel" isn't a legitimate or accurate way to determine whether something is factual.
What lots of people (even pastors) don't (yet) understand.
God created us according to His own image and likeness. Godly.
Mankind/the first Adam fell. The image of God in man got lost. That's why there is all this predicament on earth (selfishness, greed, lust, wars, sicknesses, death, etc).
We are all born into that mess.
For the fall of man a perfect atoning sacrifice had to be made.... that is what God did in Christ.
With His own once and for all perefect sacrifice, He paid the debt for the fall of man for us, so we can be indwelled by His Spirit again and finally receive the divine life of the ages back, the first Adam let got of in the fall of man. An amazing act of grace and love by our creator.
That is what you see happening in Christ's first disciples. They too healed all and walked in unselfish love.
And yes.... that is still avaible today. The holy blood is in place, the Holy Spirit is here to give us understanding, power and transform us back to origin.
Not to be debated about, but to be embraced and be-come.
So: The Kingdom of God already came. Through Christ, in Spiritform, in those that understand.
Hence the divine healing miracles we experience.
God manifested in Christ to give us back the divine life mankind lost in the fall of Adam.
Christ, the exact image of the invisible God.
The image we were created after in Gen 1.
The image we lost in the fall of man.
The image that can be freely restored by Christ's blood and Holy Spirit working IN us.
What a plan. What a solution. What a love. What a God. Jesus is amazing.
It is the ultimate conclusion of the word and plan of God. God came full circle.
He Himself stooped down from glory to restore us back to original created value: Christlikeness. Walking in divine healing power and unselfish love.
Jesus, born of the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God. The "Son" of God, the incarnated word, God in the flesh.
For three years He healed all, raised the dead, casted out demons, controlled nature, spoke pure divine truth.
He said:
"Follow Me. If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. The glory I have IN My Father, I give to you. It pleases the Father to give you His Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power. The same miracles i do, you will do too, because you will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am IN you. Freely I give you My Kingdom/Holy Spirit/divine nature, heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, freely I give, freely share" Etc, etc, etc.
I have experienced thousands of beautifull healing miracles through the power of Holy Spirit IN me already. Broken bones, cancers, covid, all kinds of infirmities healed in seconds. Demons manifesting and casted out by a simple "get out, in Jesus name".
Jesus. De name above all names. In Him all power and wisdom is sourced and.... He calls us one with Him. God in man and man in God again. C'mon Jesus!!
So.... again: God stooped down IN Christ to restore us back to Gen 1:27 were He said: "Let us make man according to our image and likeness and let them have authority.....": walk as Christ.
Christ, the exact image of the invisible God. The image we were created after and being restored to by His atoning blood for the fall of man and indwelling Holy Spirit.
You are free to receive this original divine life of the ages by Holy Spirit of Christ/God. Ask Him to guide you into truth. Read the Gospel of John and fall in love with your creator.
You are not made for the fall of man and its effects, but for the image/glory of God and to walk like Christ. Holy Spirit is the guide and transforming power that will get you there. Amazing grace.
A big leap in faith can be made when we start realizing we are already IN Christ, IN the last Adam.
Free from the fall! Loved! Growing into awareness of our new (yet old) godly identity. Changing by Holy Spirit. The most fullfilled life ever.
Paul healed all on Malta. He understood and wrote:
"As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë (= divine life) again".
"IN Christ (the last Adam) we are co-cruisified (dead to the fall and its effects), co-raised (justified/made righteousness, holy, blameless, above reproach), co-seated (one with Him)"
"The fullness of deity dwells in Christ and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM, who is the head of every principality and power".
So.... thank you Jesus! Thank you for redeeming me from the fall of man. Thank you for your Holy Spirit that makes this new (yet old) divine life come alive in me. You are amazing!
In the shadow of Peter the sick healed... He understood too and wrote:
"By Gods power (Holy Spirit) and knowing Christ, we have become partakers of the divine nature and have escaped the fall of man".
The divine life of the ages has been returned to us by Jesus once and for all perfect atoning sacrifice for the debt of the fall of man and His indwelling Holy Spirit in us. Jesus/God is amazing!!!
Ask Him to give you revelation and change you to the way it was before the fall of man: Christlikeness.
He will do so. For it is written: "the Spirit brings forth after His own kind".
"I have come to give you Zoë (divine life) in abundance...."
These videos are unbelievably awesome.
So what if Matthew saw jesus born in Bethlehem.. saw what happened with herod. Saw jesus go flee to Egypt.
And mark onlyyy saw Jesus just at the 2 cities? That's normal life! Mark was somewhere else when Jesus went to Egypt! That's why he didnt write about it.
These are so interesting
It’s crazy how fast “Science” moved away from the testable reality of the Scientific Method to blindly accepting Theories that based on a ton of assumptions and speculations as fact.
You’re amazing Cliffe ❤️
The whole thing is even if everything was exactly like these kids want the scriptures to be, they would still deny God. Its a sin issue not a evidence issue.
Amen to that.
Did you know that the reason you say Amen at the end of prayers is because Yahweh is based on an earlier deity called Amen Ra?
@@chimpanzeethat3802 you are wrong. Historically, it is referenced Amun Ra. Amen is is a Hebrew word with no ra and means so be it. Most experts even agree it is not the same.
@@chimpanzeethat3802 did you know that’s wrong
@@chimpanzeethat3802 Amen = "So be it."
"My tests are four in number"....haha
GOD bless cliffe. He is so knowledgeable in his ability to refute claims with ease. The holy spirit is strong in him. Jesus christ is so powerful.
God his ministry that you are doing. And God Bless you
As we come to terms with the realisation of God’s never ending greatness, that’s in the realms of infinity itself;
And accept this with all acceptance,
We realise that forever more, as we travel endlessly throughout all of eternity, we, because of this acceptance, will obtain a greater humility that naturally results from realising the truth of this inevitability.
However without Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour and great high priest to soothe, strengthen and befriend us, Our journey throughout all of eternity might be bleak and lonely.
But we the believers are friends of Him who is God, in a form we can understand, namely that of a man.
And we love Him because He has given us the gift of eternal life, at the expense of His own life, when he was tortured and tormented before being nailed to a cross at Calvary.
John 15:13
King James Version
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
I do not like the card game that other person is referring to.
@@godislove363
Out of context
@@jasonnoble7814 There’s poor ole Jason,still there, knock knock knocking, kinda shocking isn’t it.
What a big ole disgrace to the Aussie race, this guy is, Wow huh some kind of head case.
Crassly sitting there on his bean bag drinking away
his fears with Fosters beers.
Rudely doesn’t say hi or bye to the passers bye, just crudely replies.
He’s a such and such thats becoming way too much isn’t he. We’ve asked him to go, but he won’t let go, what can we say to get him to go away. What shall we say, we’ve given him so much pell mell with plenty of heaven and hell but he don’t care that God gives a damn and doesn’t want to damn him with the damned.
John 3:16
King James Version
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
These are questions of unbelievers, growing up in an enviroment full of dis-believe ( unbelieve ).
They are also unbelievers in unicorns, fairies, leprechauns, Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.
@@gweilospur5877 Jesus is a historical figure though! Historians of all types agree to an insane degree. Even the atheist historians and debating community would laugh at you if you compared Jesus to a unicorn or leprechaun lol!
The question for you now is to ask yourself what are you living for and what makes it better than what Jesus teaches! Study the evidence honestly And if Jesus is reliable, put your Trust in what He says!
@@TheRiversideFolk There were thousands of historical figures called Jesus, I myself have a Spanish friend called Jesus today! The biblical Jesus may have been based on a real person, but the miraculous stories are just fairy tales. The only evidence for the Bible is the Bible.
@@gweilospur5877 That’s is such a bad argument isn’t it? There were plenty of people named Plato and Aristotle yet they weren’t the actual historical ones. And their teachings were recorded 400+ years after their deaths. Jesus being recorded by His disciples only 30 years.
(The Bible is the most reliable source from
Antiquity based on actual archaeological / manuscript evidence)
And no the Bible isn’t the only evidence. Historians who weren’t Christians also wrote about Jesus ( The works of Josephus being one!)
The Bible is also not one book. It’s a a compilation of many writers and people.
Each gospel was written by a different person from historical narrative. Same with many other books in the Bible. (Some with different literary styles of course)
It’s completely possible that with all the evidence we have for their being a God , that If God and Jesus was who He claimed to be ( God) does exist, miracles are completely viable.
@@gweilospur5877 The Gospel writers wrote down what they actually saw from historical narrative. Fairytale is not the literary style back then.
And also they died terrible deaths for that truth they saw Jesus do and knew to be a miracle. People don’t die torturous deaths for something they know is a lie and didn’t happen.
In any case. I can’t prove these things to you just like I can’t prove that you are a real person and not a robot typing , but I had the same thoughts as you at one point and these logical arguments made sense. I believe in Christ not by just by a “blind” faith, but seeing the evidences for what Jesus proclaimed and evidenced that God exists. More so than anything else I’ve ever been presented!
Jesus is the Son of man and Jesus is the Son of God. ✝️🙏✌
Thank you!
Intelligent Design!!!!!
Intelligent Design as a scientific concept was disproved in 2005. It's survived as a philosophical argument but it's not even remotely scientific because it's not based on verifiable evidence, it doesn't explain related observations with a measurable degree of accuracy, it offers no mechanisms, posits no laws, has no practical applications, is untestable and unfalsifiable.
@@chimpanzeethat3802 watch Stephen Meyer
I already have.
Meyer works for the Discovery Institute, the creationist organisation responsible for the wedge document. Look up Discovery Institute wedge strategy.
It's an extremely well funded decades long religious movement to undermine science education in the US by spreading as much disinformation about it as possible so that creation can be taught in schools. The wedge document exists, it was leaked online, and Meyer has even admitted to its existence. He just lies about the implications.
Meyer and Michael Behe, ID's 2 biggest proponents, have both admitted under cross examination in court that ID fails to meet the minimum requirements for a scientific theory. Neither man has ever been able to produce evidence because they have no measurable way of determining teleonomic from teleological design.
This is not news. ID as a scientific concept was disproved in 2005.
The Discovery Institute refuses to accept this. They're infamously dishonest. For example, you may have heard of a site called "Evolution news"? It's a creationist site masquerading as a genuine evolution science site, and all the information on it is false. Evolution news is owned by the Discovery Institute. It's their propaganda wing.
@@chimpanzeethat3802 you’re so far down a flawed ideological path I think it may be to late for you. Prayers up.
I feel the exact same thing about you. You're ignoring 99.86% of living scientists and focusing only on Meyer; who hasn't published a single scientific paper in his life, has never submitted anything to a scientific journal for peer-review because he knows that he's wrong, and who relies on self-publishing his articles and books so he can avoid the critical analysis of his peers.
Our atheist friends error much in that they think absence of evidence is thus evidence of absence. I have no evidence I am on a laptop right now, I can't show everybody that, yet I am indeed on a laptop. The atheist errors in saying "Since I have no evidence I am on a laptop the laptop is not there lol" yet the laptop could be there and in fact it is. The atheist must therefore provide proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and correct. They can't they have nothing, nada, zilch, zippo. That is why I left the blind faith based worldview of atheism and I am a Christian based on evidence, facts, confirmation of holy spirit and more.
Amen amen and again I say Amen.
I hope you don't break the laptop. How much do you weigh? How long have you been on the laptop?
atheism is simply a position held on the existence of God, you believe he exists, you are a theist, I on the other hand am not convinced of his existence so I am an atheist. You can call me an agnostic if you wish, it's no big deal to me.
And conformation from the Holy Spirit!!
Amen to that!!
That part really spoke to me.
@@icanfartloud well that was quite rude for no reason
God bless you🙏🏼
The ACA has its own Discord channel. Where's Stuart & Cliffe's?
hi my name is Jack i am 23 and from Scotland, I have no Christian friends and most of my family are not saved I was just w i was in sin for a while and have recently tryed to come back to God and I am feeling more peace and being attacked less I was just wondering if someone would pray for me and let me know you have read this I have a and was raised with a single mother and she is not a Christian am not educated but working class I stated watching cliffe along time ago he is very good at what he dose and seem like a great guy I'm just trying to find a channel with what seems like a decent person who hopefully si followed by decent people who would pray for me
Yes, I shall pray for you Jack. God Bless You My Brother.
Jack, seek and you will find. Keep on this path, light up your torch and let it shine so you may light up the darkness that surrounds you and God will use you to guide others out of the darkness. If you have not been baptized I would encourage you to be baptized in the name of Christ so you may be born again and allow the holy spirit to enter your soul - once we realize that our lives are not our own is when God can really move in our lives. May God be with you my brother. Love from Florida.
Also, this may sound contradictory - do not get stuck in the weeds, apologetics is very interesting but remember the most important thing is: There is a God - who declared the law - who loves you greatly - who became human and fulfilled the law with his own life to give salvation to all, that whoever shall believe in him will be able to spend all eternity with him. God is an emotional being who just wants a friend above all.
@@joecool8965 Amen.
@@joecool8965 hi thank you for your reply I'm still struggling I am trying to come back to God I'm finding life so difficult as i am often on my own as my mother is at work and with the lockdown, i was feeling anxious and panic before the lockdown too, i was so stupid to not get plugged into a local church when i first got saved, i thought i wouldn't fit in and stuff, i have recently seen a church online that's kind of close to my area I'm not sure if its open or not. i feel terrible as I'm letting my own mum down i love her so much
Hi John, Tom, Jason, and all others.
Heh, good morning Jacob, that's a very civil greeting, .. now if you could keep any discussions we have in the same manner we could have a good dialogue. Cliffe is saying science cant prove everything, I agree with him, science does not have all the answers, but neither does appealing to a God that evades the 5 human senses. How does God reveal himself to you Jacob, what is your very best evidence that he's real? Lets talk about this without either side having to resort to mocking or name calling. You speak civilly to me and I will be civil to you. Do we have a deal?
Hi Jacob. If you want my view on what Cliffe is saying in this latest video then I am happy to give it but only if you want me to? I don't want you or any other Christians to feel I am just coming on here to bother you.
@@JohnCashin I concur with you John on 'not wanting to bother you' I'm sure that a few Christians on here think that I come here to try to take away people's faith or to ridicule their beliefs. That is absolutely not the case. I come here because the whole belief in God/Jesus thing is something that is very close to my heart in that, I was raised to believe it was true. I've never told any Christian that they should stop believing something they hold dear. I'm grateful that Cliffe allows us to have these conversations. If something is true, it should be able to withstand any amount of questioning. I think doubting is a fundamental part of what it is to be human, the more we doubt and look for better answers to life, the closer we get to the ultimate truth.
@@bonnie43uk creation testifys to a creator don't you agree?
@@Guthix198 i don't know how everything came into being nicolai, thats what i truly think. how old do you think this planet we all live on is?
Oh yes we can see God. I see God in a child's laughter I see God and they bumblebee at my flowers. I see God in an old person's shaky hand as they tell me something they lived through. I see God when someone makes the right choice. I see God when I look up at the night sky and I see God when the sun comes up each day. There are so many large and small ways to see God but I feel like I am alone in that.
Then your "god" is SO extremely arbitrary and useless as actual verifiable evidence. I don't say that to be offensive, but look at it from another's perspective. And really, ANY religion is equally as valid, especially the Earth based Pagan religions.
The repeatable scientific experiment is our wake sleep cycle . being born and dying.
Thank you for your work.
Thanks u.
Agreed!!
I wonder why they don't think about stuff like that
In Jesus’ name, amen
The more I watch these videos the more I see people refuse to believe there is a God or the evidence that Jesus is God. They will come up with any, and every excuse they can. Cliffe beats them in almost every debate. Now dont get me wrong some do have great questions. Just man.....shows where peoples minds are headed towards more n more especially in these times. 😔😔😔😔😔
Please give me the evidence that "Jesus is God". I'd be fascinated to hear it
@@colinmatts Watch his other videos Cliff breaks it down. I will give you a simple answer though "Emmanuel" God with us. Jesus performed miracles, and other miraculous things that not even all the books in the world could contain them all. The bible doesn't even say all of everything he did. Watch his other videos though Cliffe already addresses this question. God bless you.
@@IloveJesus_-lp9et How do you know that the miracle claims in the bible are true?
Cliffe loses all his debates. You can't see it because you're wearing God glasses and you want him to be right. He's not. He's a scientifically illiterate moron spreading misinformation, and he hasn't constructed a single logically sound argument.
@@chimpanzeethat3802 Seems like you have bitterness towards God as your lenses. A objective look at the evidence would do you well.
Thus says The Lord: For indeed, there are many gifts of the Spirit which I bestow upon all those who love Me, many gifts given to those who are willing to give up everything and follow Me. Thus Timothy is just one among many who hear My voice, one voice in a great chorus growing ever louder, of the number I am sending. Yet to him did I say, “Write that which I speak, and place it in a book”; also commanding him to share that which the Spirit causes him to understand. For the latter is that which My people call inspired of God or inspired in the Spirit; and the former, that which the prophets hear, the voice of The Living God.
Therefore listen to Timothy, for he speaks for Me, he hears My voice. Behold, he has sat in My presence and strives to obey all I ask of him. Do not say then, nor conceive any notion within your heart, that he may be deceived by the devil. Or have you never read these Scriptures: Every kingdom divided against itself will surely be brought to ruin, and every house divided against itself will collapse. If satan also is divided against himself, how then will his kingdom stand?[1]
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?...
For a good tree brings forth good fruit,
But a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit;
Neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit...
And every tree that does not bring forth
Good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire...
Thus by their fruits you shall know them.[2]
And was I speaking only of the false prophets, or of the true also? Is it not also implied that I speak of their message? And what of all these self-appointed scholars, teachers, pastors, preachers, ministers and priests, who have set themselves up as an authority? What fruit do they bear according to the Scriptures?
Come out from among them! No longer embrace their corrupt doctrines, nor take part in their filthy traditions! Stand apart from those who mix the holy with the profane, depart from that which is covered in purple and scarlet, and no more practice that which is an abomination in the eyes of God![3] For it is the humble, penitent man who hears God, one who is willing to give up his life in this world for My sake.
Therefore take My words to heart, and understand: Any man who shares My Word with others is My servant. And any man who hears My voice, in whose hand I have placed the Trumpet, is My prophet. Even all those I send are My apostles. And any who heed these words, and also do them, shall be called a friend of God.
www.thevolumesoftruth.com/Know_That_Which_Has_Been_Poured_Out,_The_Word_of_God
I think the key is, a lot of people think the Bible as a singular book. While it is all gods word breathed, they were separate written accounts. They have all been gathered in one book for convenience. It’s not Like these books were all written at the same time. They are just as much historical documents as any other historical documents we use for other historical knowledge.
Correct. The Bible isn't a singular book. It was written down separately until certain texts were concluded to be "part of the Canon".
What can't be considered correct is saying "they were "gods word breathed". This is a faith claim. We also cannot conclude the claims in those separate writings to be factual history. Just what someone wrote down. Places,....maybe even people,....perhaps. But not the claims of "the supernatural".
Have you ever heard of the Sermon on the mount hahahah
Whoever taught that kid must going back to their own teachers asking for their money back.
Yeah, we need teachers to teach us about the invisible magical man in the sky.
@@gweilospur5877you're another troll I see on this series denying something you disagree with. You go on these videos and troll in the comments.
Sky daddy isn't real, lol got eem
@@randynewman7173 Sure, anybody you disagree with must be a troll.
@gweilospur5877 you who don't believe in God go to Christian content comment sections to argue against those who do believe. I'd day you are because you're not changing minds and no one will change yours.
@@randynewman7173 This is a Christian content channel. You definitely can’t take people disagreeing with you!
I believe In God absolutely he talkes the truth
Cliffe, can you start putting timestamps on your videos with the specific topics being discussed? Would help alot
I am only guessing, but if he foes that, then many may skip much just to get certain clips which can change the context.
T R, Cliffe is not the one who posts the videos so he has zero control over that. This video was 2009 or earlier. And I totally hear you. I'd love to have timestamps as well, but another part of me realizes that it wouldn't matter ultimately because, in the 20+ years I've been volunteering with Cliffe, the arguments are merely variations of about 10 basic arguments. So not much changes from year to hear. Hehe.
@@nabukwe true! I would love to meet him and try to stump him with a question he's never heard before.
@@mmorphy4258 Well, now's your chance. He will be at UT next week, Sep 27 to Oct 1 across from Jester Dorm.
The event is not “Herod killed a bunch of babies in Bethlehem” the event is “He was attempting to kill Jesus” you don’t think that’s integral to the story of Jesus? You don’t think it’s important to note that people have been trying to kill the messiah literally from the day he was born?
That is at LEAST as significant as the story of him turning over tables Bc people were selling shit in Gods temple.
Amen.
"That is at LEAST as significant as the story of him turning over tables Bc people were selling shit in Gods temple.
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I would disagree with you there. Jesus' "rage" in the temple lead to the Pharisees and high priests bringing him to Pilate. Of course, they've wanted to get rid of Jesus before that, but the Cleansing of the Temple really lighted the fuse. So we can say that the cleansing of the temple lead to his crucifixion and therefore to the resurrection, which is THE most important event in all the gospels. If we were to summarize the Gospels with one sentence, it would probably sound something like "Jesus preached about loving each other and rose from the dead."
I don't think we should rank a failed murder attempt in Jesus' early life - which changed nothing about his teachings or his life's journey at all - on the same level of something that directly caused the most important event described in the gospels.
Trust the Lord Jesus and will grow in spiritual wisdom. Victorious Jesus Christ conquered death on the cross. Bless you sir. Need Holy preacher like you to preach and share the good news of living Jesus Christ and Lord bless this channel and reach to many and change hearts.
You’re very good at talking that’s about it
Sir William Ramsay,The Archaeologist who Discovered Jesus.
Sir William Ramsay ranks among the greatest of all the archaeologists, and was by all accounts, an intellect of the very first order. At the time of his death in 1939, he was considered the foremost authority on the history of Asia Minor. In his life, he held the post of Professor of Classical Art and Architecture at Oxford, and he was appointed Regius Professor of Humanity (the Latin Professorship) at Aberdeen. He was knighted in 1906 to mark his distinguished service to the world of scholarship. Ramsay also gained three honorary fellowships from Oxford colleges, nine honorary doctorates from British, Continental and North American universities and became an honorary member of almost every association devoted to archaeology and historical research.
But long before all these accolades were heaped upon him, he was just another Oxford undergraduate, and an agnostic. He believed, as did most of his peers, that the gospel’s accounts of the life of Christ were mostly an accrual of mythology and legend. According to the thinking of the day, the gospels were written so long after the events they purported to represent, they had very little historic value. After graduation, Ramsay’s area of interest was the Asia Minor of the first century AD. He took with him a copy of Luke’s "Acts of the Apostles," not because he thought it would be of much use, but because there were so few ancient travelers through that area of the world who recorded their experiences. He reasoned that although "Acts" was an obvious forgery, it still might have some tidbits of information that could shed some light on his discoveries.
He excavated throughout Greece and Turkey for over thirty years. He broke the ground in many of the ancient city sites. He excavated Ephesus, Iconium, Philippi, and many others. At the end of thirty years his opiniVon of Luke as an historian had undergone a dramatic reversal. He knew through firsthand discoveries that Luke was one of those individuals who were characteristically accurate in the information they presented. Ramsay made discovery after discovery that showed Luke was right and his critics mistaken. It got to the point that Ramsay found himself depending on Luke for interpretation of many of his finds. Also, as the evidence began coming in, Ramsay found it overwhelmingly in favor of an early first century date for "Acts." As "Acts" is a continuation of the gospel of "Luke," then "Luke" also had to have been written at about that time.Those two facts meant to Ramsay that Luke got his information from eyewitness sources, and also, the
early church, which was still filled with eyewitnesses, accepted Luke's gospel as an accurate biography of the Jesus Christ they had personally known. No serious historian suggests they were guilty of deception, they were enduring incredible persecution, precisely because of their belief in Jesus. They were certainly true believers. But what did they believe? While their memories conceivably could have been fuzzy about certain details of Jesus’ life, it stretches credulity way past the breaking point to assume they were mistaken about the main point the gospels make, that Jesus Christ was the greatest miracle worker in recorded history, and that they had SEEN Him resurrected from the dead.
On the basis of those facts, Ramsay felt compelled to accept Jesus Christ as the gospels presented Him, the Son of God, the Savior, Who died on a Roman cross, paying for his, William Ramsay's sins, and Who rose from the dead three days later, defeating death. Sir William Ramsay went to his death trusting this Lord Jesus Christ as his Savior from sin. Information gotten from “The Bearing of Recent Discoveries on the Trustworthiness of the New Testament,” written by Sir William Ramsay. Are You Good Enough to go to Heaven? (The 10 Commandment Test) The Bible is supernatural in origin, therefore take heed to its promise of Heaven and warning of Hell. The Ten Commandments says “Thou shalt not kill.” Have you ever murdered? If you have you are a murderer. It says “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” Have you ever lied? If you have you are a liar. (Think:If one little murder would make you a murderer, then one
little lie makes you a liar.) It says “Thou shalt not steal.” Have you ever stolen? Ever? Anything? If you have you are a thief. It says “Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.” Have you ever used the name God or Jesus as cuss words. If you have you are a blasphemer. Jesus said that if we even look at someone with lust, we are adulterers at heart. Have you ever looked with lust? We have only looked at five of the commandments, yet if God were to judge you by the 10 commandments would you be innocent or guilty? If you have said yes to any of these questions, you are guilty and cannot stand before a holy God. Do you really think a Holy God is going to let murderers, liars, thieves, blasphemers and adulterers into heaven? The Bible says. “. . . all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” (Revelation 21:8) You desperately need a Savior.The Bible says: But
God commendeth His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ, God the Son, died on the cross and paid for all your sins. The Bible teaches that He literally took the entire punishment that was coming to us for our sins, so that we could be forgiven and freely allowed into Heaven. He rose from the dead, and now wants to forgive you and save you from the sins that condemn you. He will give you a salvation that will not only forgive you, but it will turn you away from those sins that are destroying you. If you will repent of your sins, and trust Him for forgiveness and salvation, He promises: “Believe (trust in, rely on, cling to) on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.” (Acts
I'm happy to hear this man defend his faith but my faith has everything to do with the Holy Spirit and His witness in me. When the Lord reveals himself to you personally you know him personally. Jesus is so real. I know his voice. I know his presence. I know the truth of scripture. Please sincerely seek Him and know him to.
My brother claims the same but last year he went through a period of anger with God even though he states he knows him and heard him.
My understanding is once you understand and hear and know him that there shouldn't be doubts after. His faith was rocked because of money and joblessness after standing against abortion and not paying his taxes.
Money. After defending the unborn because God commands that we shall not murder. After all that he was frustrated because he couldn't find a job and wanted to commit suicide.
His faith is pretty frail.
That's true, but we don't really know that Cliffe hasn't also had these experiences with Jesus.
He may well have had, afterall.
It's just that God can use certain types of people to reach certain types of people, if that makes sense? Like, it might be a case that Cliffe is using the logic and reasoning that he has been blessed with in order to reach the more academic crowd that would be more prone to not listen at all to someone without logic. He is an apologist in these videos, but as the role of a Pastor, when he's at church, he might have a different style.
I no longer look for historical narrative from scripture. There’s such a rich source of symbols/metaphors in the simplicity of its usefulness at different times in my life.
I’m not sure if looking at the trees (and finding ‘inconsistencies’, left out notes) and missing the whole message of the forest is useful. Doctrine in precision misses the whole point of the personal relationship we each can have with JC.
THIS GUY IS SUPER BASED
The desire to be accepted is so strong in the college environment.
Since most in academia espouse atheism, it takes real courage and potentially sacrifice to openly espouse the contrary.
“Reason” and evidence are the excuse, not the means.
The Gospel is not foolishness. It is the most dangerous book ever written by humans.
Jesus 💯💯💯
I studied Dr Ryan Reeves especially with the gospels and the early church. I also studied Dr Frank Turek and I find all three of you to be quite similar. If people cannot grasp what is being said in a historical context with logic and reason we are headed for a very bad place.
26:40 not a hard question, he is likely referring to a passage from, "Testomonium Flavianum" of which is widely believed to be interpolation by Eusebius. Which is ironic considering the topic of conversation.
When has reason and logic become pejorative?
Nothing contemptuos at all...
Because now it means: antagonistic and argumentative. People try so hard to look smart when they would get much further in the discussion by just being genuine.
@@JBattlePants And what is the % of people who do THAT?
It would appear---the Louder you are, the more correct you are
in todays discussions.
Keep up the great work my brother. Our America lost gods law. Nobody fears god no more. And our schools r teaching our children that there is no god.
And no unicorns.
@@gweilospur5877 Dnt live ur life that wAy my brother. Thinking u kno exactly what happens after we die. Cuz imagine we do have a Creator and he's omnipresent. And ur sitting b4 the lord when u die. And u have to face him knowing u been making fun of believers and putting us down. If u dnt want to believe no1 can force u. But please don't try to put other people down for wanting to believe. Because u dnt kno 100% what happens after U die. So don't assume like you kno. Because if ur wrong and u have to be judged on judgment day. Looking up at our creator. What was that u said about unicorns. Dnt do that to urself my brother. God bless
@@onlylove556 What if you die and then you have to face the unicorns?
@@gweilospur5877 Well that's why we repent and pray to God. Because he will pour down his holy spirit on u. U will feel him it's like going outside and feeling a strong wind. you can't see it & don't know where it's going. but you feel it all over you. Well imagine sitting on your couch or laying in bed and then all of a sudden you get this gust of wind pouring down on you and you feel the power of his love this high that you never felt before. because I guarantee if you feel his holy spirit on you will repent and pray and that's how I know. There's so much evil that goes around this world. there's millions of lost souls still sleeping. don't believe mankind created moral laws by themselves. God created moral laws and if you got a good heart you can turn your stone of heart into a pure heart and be born again. He will reveal himself. I tell u the truth. So if you really say you got a good heart just pray my brother you keep seeking him out keep knocking on the door he will answer I promise you that. God bless u my brother
@@gweilospur5877 do your research start researching God start researching the history of Babylonian times how religion started how people started believing in pagan gods and why they believed in pagan gods. and where it came from study your history my brother you have to start at day one look at all the evidence and then come with ur own conclusion don't just listen to what people tell you today without researching something yourself. We have the technology today that we never had before so we could all know the truth before it's too late it doesn't hurt to pray you will not hurt anybody you would actually gain more then u could ever imagine by becoming humble and repent you have no idea how special you are and will gifts you truly have. And wear your true citizenship lays
My cousin and I come visit you, you’re giving a speech while wearing a green shirt with brown pants.
We both write down the fact that you’re speaking while wearing a green shirt, except he leaves out the fact that you’re also wearing brown pants while I write that detail down.
That is not an Internal inconsistency just because he left out a detail it goes to show that I felt the need to prioritize that specific detail, while he didn’t.
Both accurate recordings with minor different details
The keyword being minor details. If you had different accounts when there were supposedly hundreds of people resurrected as in Matthew, or a series of major earthquakes, that would be highly suspicious.
@@sirajaxl key word, both accurate recordings, something’s recorded some not, different people writing different details about what they seen as individuals
@@michaelduckett7726
There are many parts of Matthew that match up perfectly with the other three Gospels, but then none of the other three Gospels even reference hundreds of people who were dead now walking the streets?Matthew said there was a mass Hysteria and wailing in the streets. Major earthquakes, and Paul references revelation type occurrences in the book of Matthew.
@@sirajaxl okay dude im not about to argue on YT, carry on 🤣
@@michaelduckett7726
That’s fine, but if you write out a statement on a UA-cam post, you should be willing to defend it. I mean we are talking about the most important subject in the history of humanity, are we not?
You need to want it with all your heart, to invite Jesus into your life and confess Jesus with your mouth as your Lord and Savior! Longing for a personal relationship with Jesus is wise, receiving the gift of faith from Jesus' Holy Spirit is wonderful and above worth, He is priceless because He has everything to do with your eternal good, that is Jesus Christ! ✝ Only fools remain in their refusal to a gift-giver like this!
🐐L.W . ✝️ R.W. 🐑
When that kid said, “you can’t point to a concept.“ Clitt should have pointed to the building and said, “There. That building right there is a concept.“
the concept was in the mind of the architect I guess Jacqui, the actual building came about via lots of other factors.. builders reading the blue print plans of the building etc etc etc.
@@bonnie43uk It’s still starts as a concept. The end result, which is the actual building, is called conceptualization.
Buildings are concepts and physical objects. God is not a physical object
@@colinmatts The kids said you can’t prove a concept.
@@colinmatts by the way, God was a physical object, and his name was Jesus Christ.
Mathew chapter 6, verse 7 but when ye pray,use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do. For they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Just an FYI. It’s a bad idea to quote Matthew, since his gospel is the most outrageous, anti-science, and unbelievable of the four.
@@sirajaxl None of the gospels are anti-science. Science grew out of religion and the philosophy that we are created in the image of God and have minds that can rationally understand creation. It is anti-science to say science and religion are incompatible. It is an anti-theist claim that is completely unfounded. If we were just evolved by accident from dirt, which is a very anti-science claim, there would be no reason to think we could study natural processes only that we are controlled by them. If we stop believing in mind/consciousness and replace that with a philosophy all cognition is just chemical reactions generated by nature the conclusion would lead us back to tribalism and nature worship.
@@boltrooktwo
I’m not sure what you’re going on about, but I am specifically referencing the absurdity of the book of Matthew. None of the other Gospels even reference hundreds of deceased people now resurrected and walking the streets. Matthew speaks of major earthquakes, and Paul references the book of Matthew noting revelation type occurrences.
@@sirajaxl We don’t throw out whole amazing books of scripture just because of a few parts you don’t understand.
@@boltrooktwo
That’s exactly what the Hindus and the Muslims say about their holy Scriptures. I think you may be starting to understand the power of unquestioned dogma. Congratulations and good luck on your journey.
Theology to secular people is like explaining physics to a baby. Some people can not think so high and there's no point explaining. It's ultimately emotional than intellecual anyway, people get blind spots in the mind for moral reasons. It comes down to this: people want power, morality hinders that persuit. So the mind can preform many tricks to avoid what might be theologically true. You can change words around, rewrite history, forge documents, create distractions, many ways to lie to yourself. Millions of people have mental disorders like narcissism and psychopathy, and make everyone else to think their way by force. Such types are unable to see beyond a subjective light so you can not articulate a concept that suggests that they are not ultimate. So you're describing nonsense to them. Also, narcs are demon possessed so the demons wouldn't allow them to process theological concepts.
No one can conclusively prove God or Jesus. So my question is if someone asks you “thats your truth - whats true for you isn’t true for me... so how do you know what you believe is THE truth..”? then they tell you they have evidence also and reasoning for their beliefs and faith ???
Can you give a specific example?
@askcliffe
Im not local and I would love to ask you a specific question to see how you would respond. I have a friend who likes to say that the people who turn religion or GOD are usually weak minded individuals who cannot get out of the crux in their life so they turn to religion to fill the void. How would you respond to something like that?
I think people are missing the point of the teachings of JESUS CHRIST.
What is important to you now will not be important in the age to come.
What is important is what JESUS came to teach us all about........
Amen
Peace be unto you Brother
Hi Alexander. I would say that your friend has a fairly weak and uneducated argument against Christianity. If you look at the life of the apostle Paul, he was advancing very quickly beyond most of the other Pharisees within his inner circle. He had absolutely everything to gain from continuing his life as a Pharisee, yet nothing to gain (in the eyes of his peers) by giving up his religious beliefs and his position of authority as a Pharisee. Yet Paul encountered the risen Christ on the road to Damascus, and that completely changed him. He gave up on his former way of life as a Pharisee, and chose to follow Christ.
In his letter to the Philippians, chapter 3, Paul writes about a few of the reasons he had to boast about, by being a Pharisee... Yet, in Philippians 3:7 he clearly states that everything he had to gain as a Pharisee, is basically insignificant and worthless when those temporary things were compared to knowing Christ.
In Philippians 3:7 Paul writes -
"But whatever gain I had, i counted as loss for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead".
So, There you have a person (Paul) who had the opportunity to gain everything from NOT turning to Jesus Christ. Yet, he threw it all away because he knew that having a relationship with God was far more important than chasing the praise and riches of this world... There are more examples I could give you but that example of Paul was the first one that came to mind.
God bless you brother. Greetings from Australia.
EDIT: I hope that makes sense to you?... Let me know.
I would ask your friend how he defines weak mindedness. Then ask him if he's ever been mad, jealous, upset, lustful, nervous, anxious. Once he says yes, then tell him he's weak minded and needs Jesus. Jesus said the spirit is willing but the body is weak.
Yes again.unless you are born again,as a new vessel with a love and desire for the ways pertaining to God..it is impossible to gain understanding of the plan of God ,and salvation ,or understand the cross and the shedding of His blood for you.
I like these videos , but this statement you have made I believe is truly missed in some of these conversations , but I understand that he is trying to reach the young minds on this platform , thank you for your comment
block boy,and thank you for realizing my imput is just to help others in their journey for the everlasting Gods truth .
Such scripture says no December: rebuke thee those who made the year of the world into a lie.
This channel is actually growing fast why?
I don't know what you mean if you mean the way he speaks he speaks that way a lot to all of us videos at the same time the speed of the actual video seems to be normal.
@@godislove363 *growing
@@johnl.5046 oh okay, thanks, lol. His approach though not perfect is very good and many do not speak directly with the young people anymore.
Dude is such a genius that he is so off. Cliff keeps tearing down all that he is saying. Quiet easily
This is the 21st century and people still believe in Bronze Age mythology.
It's 2024 and you still believe your ancestors are fishes and monkeys lol.
Gospel are good news! And it is offer to everyone! Now if we dont belive to our LORD JESUS CHRIST ✝️🙏 we will perished it is clear in the scripture in John 3:16 For GOD so love the world that HE gave HIS BEGOTTEN SON That whoever Believes in JESUS should not perish but have eternal LiFE it is clear that Believing to JESUS are only way out to punishments! Believing to GOD are good decision that people do! Accepting HIM as our LORD and SAVIOR ✝️🙏 Obey HIS commandments to LOVE GOD with all our heart,soul, mind and stenght! And love others as ourselves! It is good to our life specially in our spritual life! It is good to others Yes it is! Because loving other as ourselves are peaceful life why? If we love others we kill them! Of course not, we commit adultery? Absolutely not! We speak lies that cause other people perish? Not! We steal things from other people? Definitely not! We covet the things that they have and other wife or husband of other people! Not at all! Why because we love others as ourselves! GOD doest want anybody to perish!there are people want a smooth lives no responsibility! They want only a comfortable life! A Self centered people! And dont care about other people on our environment! These are all the characters of satan! They dont like the rules!dont mind them They take care of ourselves!
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Cliffe you don't need the mike!
Ouch. 6:28
Science believes there is no purpose for our existence yet believes everything has a purpose. If everything has a purpose then it has a reason to exist.That contradicts the essence of science. So if science has a reason then that that requires intelligence which means science is contingent upon an intelligent designer to give science its purpose. Thus God exists.
Apologists have an interesting way of getting some of the most powerful and common arguments against God and destroying them with simple answers
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Why should science and theology be separated? Science means “proven facts”(by what you can touch, taste, and see. The meaning of Faith is the complete opposite, Hebrew 11:1 Now faith is the [a]substance of things hoped for, the [b]evidence of things not seen.
However, the Word of God must always be tested and examined. Through such proof, our faith can increase.
@@billyholly God Word is already tested.
Psalm 18:30 says “
As for God, His way is blameless. The word of the Lord is tested [it is perfect, it is faultless]
Psalm 33:6 says
“ By the word of the Lord the heavens were made,
and by the breath of his mouth all their host.”
Psalm 18:30
@@meatdiggy1 Oh, so Christians should blindly accept whatever they read...even though they might be misunderstanding what they read? I think you are misunderstanding my point, perhaps.
@@billyholly if you believe in God words than what else proof you need??? God word spirit based, the carnal mind can’t comprehend spirit. 1Cor chpt 2 says “[10] But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
[11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
[12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
@@meatdiggy1 1 Thes 5:21 Test ALL things... www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/1478/Testing-Scriptures.htm
How many years ago were these clips made? November 17 on a Tuesday came in 2020 but also 2015. VERY recently, like a month or two ago, an archeological dig turned up a lot of corpses of male babies and toddlers...not females in Bethlehem. I will look for the source and post it here later. However, as Cliffe said, does this affect the narrative of Jesus coming to save us and the world?
Hi Billy, it seems to me things have always been the same regardless of whether Jesus came to save us and the world, was the population of the planet aware that the creators son had just died for all of mankinds sins the day after he died on the cross? Where in the New Testament does God say specifically and incontrovertibly that he is going to take away all mans wrongdoings by having himself crucified? .. and he's doing this in front of how many people? ... for millions upon millions of people. For me, the whole thing does not make logical sense. Esp if, after 3 days he comes back to life, then flies up into the clouds to live in eternal bliss in heaven?, Isn't a sacrifice something you give up, forever.? Any compassionate mother would, if given the choice sacrifice her own life for that of her child. If she came back to life a few days later, then it's not really a sacrifice is it?
@@bonnie43uk Hey, bonnie!! How have you been?
About the sacrifice, Jesus is still sacrificing Himself to this day. He is washing away our sins to this day and has never stopped. Cliffe talks about it on this clip, I believe. Jesus was fulfilling the scriptures from the Old Testament by being the sacrifice. All this was written, over 100 prophecies in about 30 categories. Jesus "did this" in front of enough people that Christianity grew exponentially. He especially appeared to the 12 chickens who went into hiding when Jesus was arrested, crucified, and then the Romans came looking for them. What then changed these cowards? They saw Jesus. The 500 mentioned is quickly questioned by skeptics but since these 500 lived RIGHT WHERE THE 12 BEGAN THEIR PREACHING, they could have been quickly refuted by the people of that town. If it were all a lie, they would have started their preaching elsewhere but the Disciples chose to begin in Jerusalem, where it all took place. It's best we go one question at a time, again, if that is OK with you.
@@billyholly Thanks for that billy, always good to hear from you and to get your perspective. Yes, this whole sacrifice thing never seems to make sense to me. I've said many times in these comments that any wrongdoings I commit, belong solely to me.. i own those wrongdoings, they are part of who I am, as the expression goes, you take me "warts and all". I would not feel comfortable with someone paying any kind of price for something I did. And even if someone did pay a price for my wrongdoing, ultimately it doesn't erase my guilt. Nor would I want it to.
Surely it's better to take ownership of our own 'sins' and to accept them, and hopefully learn from them. We can also of course ask forgiveness, .. not to Jesus, but from the person we've wronged. That makes much more sense to me.
The more I hear this claim that Jesus died for our sins, the more it doesn't add up to me anyway. I asked someone this question this morning, where in the New Testament does Jesus clearly explain to anyone that he is going to die for the sins of mankind, where can I find Jesus saying that?
@@bonnie43uk The most obvious place Jesus, Himself, says it is in the Book of Matthew 26:28, at the Last Supper, "...this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins."
Any reference to "lamb" is also a reminder what Jesus was going to do and did.
Christians STILL need to apologize to those they've wronged, by the way. There is no "free pass" to keep on sinning, either. No one is allowed to sin. We are all human and it is difficult but in our hearts, we must strive to be better every day. People have bad days and I know I certainly do so I try to sincerely ask for forgiveness right away, when I realize I've messed up.
Recently, I've had three commenters say that since they've accepted Jesus, they are now perfect and don't sin. False teaching and dangerous. It is NOT true. We are all human. I want a t-shirt that says, "Under Construction" on it.
@@billyholly Cheers for that billy, well, it's good that we can agree that asking for forgiveness is a good thing. Maybe Christians buy into this "asking Jesus for forgiveness" is, it's a way of being truly apologetic for something you've done which has caused someone hurt, without having to apologise to someone face to face, I would say that is a far far harder thing to do on many levels, to look someone straight in the eye and to truly say you were wrong, and to ask for their forgiveness is much more difficult. Esp if they turn round and reject your sincere apology, and for good reason.. esp if what you did caused a lot of heartache and chaos in someones life. Much much more easy to sincerely ask Jesus for forgiveness in private prayer and mean it ... you know he's going to forgive you... that's the beauty of it.
I'm still not convinced that drinking wine and taking it to be human blood is a good way to tell your friends that you are Gods son, and you're going to die for all of mankind's sins. Wouldn't you say it was a failed mission given how at no point after the crucifixion we all stopped sinning, we're sinning as much today as we've always done. And what people regard as "sinful" is very much a personal opinon. I love admiring good looking women, even better if they're in sexy underwear !! .. i don't see that as sinning, more a free pleasure in life 😊
But yes, we're none of us perfect, and we are all "work in progress" so to speak, i am in full agreement with you there. 😊
Ugh these people dont know!
Look at like this... if me and you met... and I wrote about you... I'd write about the actual times we spent together. I wouldnt write stuff about things we didnt do together. They wrote what they saw and heard.
Maybe. But how could anyone demonstrate the truth of what you wrote?
The Bible is not evidence. The Bible is the CLAIM.
@@chimpanzeethat3802 that's the point man. It's hard to explain. But faith is required. Jesus said if you had faith the size of a mustard seed... you could say to thos mountain move and it would move for you.
When jesus died and rose again, when he came back his own disciples doubted... one of them said unless I see with my own eyes and stick my hand into his wounds.. I will not believe...
If you got all the proof you wanted.... how would it even be a "choice" anymore? Eternal life is the greatest prize anybody could ever have or ask for... life is the biggest mystery for most... the battle between the good and the evil in man is also one of the biggest mysteries. If God is real... do you honestly think all these things will be just be in the open? You'll never be able to fit God into a science beaker or a technical equation.. he will evade and elude and run away every single time.. he cant be caught... theres story's in the bible about giants... about a man being swallowed by a giant whale.. about things "so fantastical " that only the humble would be so foolish to believe them. Gods uses underdogs. God uses the dirty and broken. God uses foolish things to confound the wise.
You will have to set aside pride of life.. pride of knowledge.. pride of self.. you will have to be willing to become like a little child again.. trust Him..... trust Him... he will show you in ways beyond your wildest dreams hes worth knowing and pursuing
@@jesus-is-rad9684 Amen, so nicely explained or expressed.
@@godislove363 thank ya thank ya
@@jesus-is-rad9684 you are most welcome.
I wish he would touch on the book of Enoch
I believe he has, but if not I think the explanation is that the book of Enoch wasn't written by Enoch, it was written after Enoch died as far as I know. So it's inauthentic
I'd like to ask those in the comments, what reason would you have to take one holy book as fact/ accurate historical accounts over another? For example, why is the Bible correct in your eyes but the Quran is not? I'm an agnostic (ex-atheist) and trying to find answers and research into God and spirituality. Thanks in advance!
To answer your example, the Quaran was after the Bible, also, the Bible directly proclaims who God is, what God has and is doing and lastly, on the Quaran it states that the Godpels are true and ought to be believed and trusted. With that in mind, the Gospels proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord n Savior and as God. If that is the Case, then the Muslim faith is false. Hope this helps. I was a searcher just as you are. God Bless you.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 great job saint paul and I answered his q about the Quaran.
@@godislove363 but i thought Islam proclaims jesus as a profit but not the son of god?
@@captainciz that is why I said their faith is false, because they say obey/believe the Gospels but they do not they do what they say to do.
The Bible is the only book that gives all humans value, puts women equal with men, and has a God that humbles himself in order to live among us and pays our debt of sin. The WAGE of sin is death. Death is a not a punishment but a payment. Jesus(God) pays the price for us but we have to accept it. If humans would die for their children but God wouldn't I think many would believe that is something we would have over Him, but Jesus did die for us. What other deity showed us that type of humility?
5:16 is scary
Cliff these men come to you for debate but not with an open mind. So you debate with them to prove too much. Faith is what takes them there. Challenge them on faith. convincing them is not enough since you depend on your ability to show your ability to counter their points. You must allow the Spirit and not your ability to explain the science. Submit your ability to God and he will do the convincing and convicting.
The Gospel is Foolishness to Those Who Are Perishing this people will believe only in the things they see John 20: 29 Jesus said, “Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe. I can only give an advice to this young people of today, accept Jesus with all your heart and then read the Bible, and i guarantee you after that. that all does people that knows you they will see Jesus in you. God bless you all.
It's not about "belief". It is about demonstrable and repeatable data. Just "believing what other people tell you is true" is a great way to be deceived without knowing it.
BTW, accept what "in your heart"? If you don't have a reason to see any "Jesus" as a literal existing deity, you cannot legitimately "accept it". As for the Bible, I'm well familiar with the Bible and claims of the Jesus character in it. That doesn't make it real.
So,....where any claims of "foolishness" might be suggested is with those who others insist that their claims are actually factual without backing it up with demonstrable data....not just that people believed it, but that the claims were factually legitimate.
I hope that helps.
One addressed to all the resident trolls! (Ya all know who ya are!)
No doubt you are referring to myself and a few other atheists on here Jesse, have you ever had a discussion with someone who is skeptical of the Bible and the concept of a God without having to resort to mocking and scoffing. It would be good to have a chat with you about exactly what it is you believe and what, if any, denomination do you follow as a Christian? Are you a Biblical literalist who believes every word in the Bible as written or inspired by God, or do you take some of the writings as written as allegorical and not to be taken literally? Where do you stand on that?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 I am actually trying an experiment with this conversation.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Same applies to you saintpaul, it would be good to have a discussion with you about what it is you actually believe regarding God without resorting to mocking and scoffing. One of the things I've noticed about your interactions with a lot of atheists is, you will pick up on something fairly trivial, and focus on a triviality rather than give your point of view on a theological issue. What is your view on Hell for example, is it a place of eternal torture or simply an absence of God ( whatever that entails). You are quick to mock, but not quick on explaining your own theological views on various aspects of God or the Bible. As I said to Jesse, it would be good to get your views on what it is you actually believe and why? Are you a biblical literalist or do you think a lot of what is in the Bible is allegorical and not meant to be taken as literal?
Feel free to give your views on that, or simply mock me. As a Christian, what you actually believe matters doesn't it. My non-belief has grave consequences for me, doesn't it? If I'm hellbound that should be of huge concern to me, shouldn't it? That's what I was raised to believe. Yet somehow, it doesn't ring true. You can't make someone believe in God if, in their heart of hearts they truly don't believe it. Yet, as i've told you lots and lots of times, If the evidence was strong, I *would* believe it.. I've even told you and many Christians what *would* convince me. God, if he existed, would know what it would take to convince me. This is a serious subject isn't it?, what happens to me when I die is something I think about a lot, and the more I think about it, the more I don't believe the stories that have been told in ancient books.
These conversations are helpful to me in figuring out what is true and what is not true. That is worthy of discussion is it not saintpaul.
@Jesse Bryant
@saint paul
Experiment over, he crashed and burned.
@@godislove363 Explain to me how I "crashed and burned" Jacob?, we were having a civil conversation, I tried to explain to you how, you giving me your opinion on something, while it makes sense to you, for someone with a different opinion, it only brings up more questions. If you asked me a question, lets say about the non existence of God as i see it, ... and I give you my answer, would you say to yourself, ah, ok, now I understand why you are an atheist" and that would be the end of the conversation? .. no, I dont think my answer would not be sufficient for you, and you'd have follow up questions, .. that is the nature of conversation. How do you not see that?. It's a shame that John tried to explain it for you, and you've chosen not to speak to him ( or indeed me) anymore.
Note that I even said to you that we're not going to agree Jacob. But having these conversations is still worth the effort as it's something we're both passionate about. Ah well, you're always welcome to speak to me Jacob, I will never close the door on someone. saintpaul and Jesse are also welcome to have a civil discussion as I've stated above, but they've both gone silent.
I wonder why Cliffe doesn’t address the major inconsistencies, like the hundreds of people supposedly resurrected in Matthew. It’s easy to point to minor Variation in details, but things like that are more honest and challenging.
Hi. Because it doesn't matter, the author has the right to choose what he wants to put in the book and the importance of advancing it's meaning to the reader.
If you read better, you'll find that there are no inconsistencies. Just read it repeatedly. Sheesh
@@kryptokn
I believe you just made my point for me. If it doesn’t matter why does Cliffe even bother bringing up the small “perceived“ inconsistencies? If you’re putting your cards on the table, you go after the big fish. You tell people it’s the preference of the other three gospel authors not to mention resurrected saints walking the streets.
@@sirajaxl Aight it matters. you got me. Now go read ✊😁. You'll see no variations of the details, only an account adding detail to an account to an account ending up on a complete consistent story.
@@kryptokn Inconsistencies or not, what reason do we have to believe it is true?
@@colinmatts I do not understand your question and I'm serious in that numerous people like you say the very same thing everyday on here and it's not right and it's not intellectually honest. Numerous writing longer back from even the Bible days around the same time or after the Bible days are all written materials do not always have a witness groovin in the way that you guys demand yet it was written materials from 2,000 years ago or fifteen hundred years ago or three thousand years ago our documents or books or stories that you guys rise up in a pool like a god you guys accept them without question if you do question a little bit as you should you did except you find on the spot is hypocritical it's inconsistent until logical and the Bible or droplet of the Bible meaning the written Pages manuscript Etc there were professional people I have had too many others who wanted to destroy it even the Catholic Church wanted to destroy the Bible so that Common Man wouldn't have it it's very simple to understand why it is so precious and so true and so consistent but yet you guys will accept Plato Socrates and many other writings for many other people putting pagans of all times but you won't accept the Bible your Hypocrites answer that please I dare you answer it all of it?
The second guy seems to think that the kids being murdered in Bethlehem is super important, and there's no way someone could have written the story of Jesus decades later without bringing up that point. That seems very odd to me. That's like thinking it's impossible to write that "my friend John Doe was born in 2001 in New York City", but didn't bring up the whole Twin Towers thing. It's certainly possible that some biographer *may* choose to see that as an important aspect of John Doe's birth, but it certainly isn't a necessary requirement, as this guy tries to claim.
Either way, if his criticism is valid, then it literally proves the New Test is very close to the events it describes. THE single biggest event to occur in their entire lives, and the entire history of the Jewish religion for a thousand years, occurred in 70 AD, the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the holy Temple. Jesus prophesies this in Matthew for instance (therefore secular scholars date Mark to after 70 AD, because obviously prophecies can't be true). Acts and none of the Epistles, nor the Revelation even so much as mention the killing of approximately 1.1 million Jews, and the seeming destruction of their entire religion.
That's just the point though, isn't it. This guy didn't come up with this criticism himself. Secular and atheist Bible scholars do this all the time. If this silly criticism is true, it literally proves that their dating is all wrong, and the New Test is much closer to the events the describe than the try to claim.
And don't say not all satanist follow their commandments, because then that would be a hypocritical satanist and people love attacking hypocrisy in christians and accuse them of not knowing what their own belief truly says.. So why wouldn't we hold satanists to the same scrutiny.
The same way there's hypocritical Christians there's hypocritical satanists. Difference is that one preaches good and occasionally does good..And the other preaches bad and occasionally does bad. Still I'd rather be surrounded by people who 90% of the time do nothing and 10% of the time do good. As oppose to someone who 90%of the times does nothing and the remaining 10% decides to do follow through with what he says he believes and do evil. I'd still rather be surrounded by Christian hypocrites than satanist ones.
Cliff I want to know Jesus what do I do?
Besides reading scripture let the Holy Spirit speak to you through his word but also speak to Christ directly directly call out to them in the name of Jesus to the father that you loved his son that you want to turn your skins in your life over to them that you want to repent that you want to give you life new and have it be made new by the father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and then do your best every day to worship them I also following the Commandments because when you love him you want to keep his Commandments you know not to steal lie Etc all 10 of them but not out of works but I have love and respect. Just have a relationship with him the way we do with our parents were strict with their parents.
Been a couple days I hope you had an opportunity to give yourself over to God even if it's for the moment to speak to him allow yourself in time to hear his voice or the Holy Spirit or look at his word right I'm praying for you God bless you.
@@godislove363 I was praying this morning I believe Jesus died for my sin. He is the only way to heaven
@@crusoebower3391 that is 100% correct. Amen.
@@crusoebower3391 He Loves you and is your advocate. He says anyone who draws nearer to me draws nearer to and knows the Father. If you need any other info let me know. God Be With You.
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ONE True GOD Is = The Father, Son & Holy Spirit
▪︎"The Son of God is fully God. When Jesus was born, it was his humanity that came into being but he has always eternally existed as God" (John 8:58; 1:1-4)
▪︎Jesus Said, "Go to all Nations & Baptise in The Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:18-20)
▪︎The Angel Said To Mary, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you and Eternal power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One born will be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35)
▪︎Jesus Said, "I Am God's Son" (John 10:27-36)
▪︎"God is called God the Father" (Matthew 6:9)
▪︎"And Jesus is called God the Son" (1John 4:15)
▪︎“For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9)
▪︎The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High..”
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:28-35)
▪︎"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1)
▪︎"And The Word became Flesh full of grace and glory" (John 1:14)
▪︎"Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made" (John 1:3)
▪︎The High priest asked, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?
"I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven” Mark 14:61-62; Daniel 7:13-14
▪︎“May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all" 2 Corinthians 13:14
▪︎"Because you are His sons, God sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out Father" (Galatians 4:6)
▪︎As soon Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love.." Matt 3:15-17
▪︎The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him" Col 1:15-16
▪︎“Come near me and listen to this:
“From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there. "And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, endowed with his SPIRIT" (Isaiah 48:16)
▪︎OT Prophet Isaiah understood plurality within the One God as being the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
▪︎"Almighty God humbled Himself becoming lower than the angels, a servant, a man, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" Phil 2:1-11
▪︎“We have a law, according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God" (John 19:7)
▪︎"What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?" (John 10:27-36)
▪︎Jesus said, "I and My Father are One”
Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them,
“I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:27-36)
▪︎"So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." (John 5:16-18)
▪︎The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!” (John 8:57-8)
▪︎Jesus Said, "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began" (John 17:5)
▪︎"Jesus Said, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End" (Revelelation 22:13)
▪︎“While we wait for the blessed hope - the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” Titus 2:13
▪︎"The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven" Hebrews 1:3
▪︎Jesus said, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you" John 14:26, 15:26
▪︎“Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you"? 1 Corinthians 3:16
▪︎"Love does no wrong to a neighbor therefore Love is the fulfilling of the Law" Rom 13:10; Matt 22:30-40
▪︎ "Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him" (1John 3:15)
Christ's 2 Greatest Commandments are:
▪︎"Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together.
One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
1. Jesus replied, "The first is to Love God.......and the second is like it..
2. "To Love your neighbor as yourself and love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 22:30-40)
☆ "On these 2 hang all the prophets and law" (Matt 22:30-40; 1 Cor 13)
▪︎Christ's Law, the New Covenant, overrules Mosaic law; Matthew 5:38-48
▪︎Jesus said, "You have heard it said, "an eye for an eye', etc. But I tell you, to Love your enemy" Matt 5:38-48
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▪︎ "The Son of Man will give you everlasting life, because God the Father has set His seal on Him" (John 6:27)
▪︎Jesus is God Incarnate,
The Word became Flesh in Jesus, God took on human nature..
So Jesus is both fully God and human...
Jesus has 2 natures.. Both Divine and human
Jesus as Human: ate, slept, wept, spoke to the Father and was crucified etc.
Jesus as God: is One with the Father, raised the dead and created etc.
Jesus rose from the dead on the 3rd day victorious over sin and death.
Jesus Christ atones for our sins and not only ours but for the sins of the whole world (1John 2:2)
Jesus Christ and the Gospel are the final revelation (1John 2:22; 2John 1:7-11; Galatians 1:8-9; Revelation 22:13; Revelation 22:18-19)
Amen..
▪︎The One True Lord God is 3 divine Persons, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit existing in eternal Union - inseperately, i.e. not separately or individually..
But they work together in Union whilst also having specialised roles
For example, where ever the Father is also is the Son and the Holy Spirit, etc.
So the Father sends the Son (Word) who is God incarnate (Jesus being both fully God and human) and the Son sends the Holy Spirit..but they are fully the One God..
And so the Father, Son and Holy Spirit do not speak or 'work' individually because Being in Eternal Union they are the One God..
Amen...
Cliffe says he looks for internal consistency in determining whether the Gospel writings are true, one of those things he mentions is 'literary style', I think my and Cliffe's view of literary style differs greatly, .. when I read the Gospels it seems clear to me at least that much of it is written as storytelling prose in which you have specific dialogue between Jesus and other characters. Who witnessed Jesus and Satan's conversation in the wilderness?.. from a storytelling perspective it makes for great reading, but for me, it seems far more likely these are made up, especially all the miracle stories, again, fantastic stories, but in reality not true.. there is no way whatsoever to prove they occurred.
"there is no way whatsoever to prove they occurred."....prove it
"Who witnessed Jesus and Satan's conversation in the wilderness?.. Jesus and Satan did....
@@icanfartloud Prove it?, that's just the point Sir, I cannot prove it, neither can you, we have to take what is being claimed on faith, either you believe it, or you don't. I'm in the "I seriously doubt it" camp, whereas you're in the "I believe it occurred" camp. I'm of the opinion that the New Testament is based on a tiny grain of truth, .. maybe this Jesus character did exist, and he may well have preached things like love and forgiveness, and he may well have been crucified for whatever reason. But all the other stuff, him being the son of God, and coming down to planet earth to die for all our sins, and the miracles etc...I have a hard time believing that.
Just when i thought i was going to have a relaxing day, Tom inevitabley appears in the comment section with another stupid thoughtless comment...
Tom, firstly, why do you insist on spending the last few years of your meaningless, accidental, atheistic, existence commenting on Cliffes videos about a topic that you are convinced is absolute nonsense?.... Especially due to the fact that you are not willing to discover the truth, but rather express your opinion.
As "IcanFartLOUD" has previously explained, Jesus and satan were witnesses to the conversation between them in the wilderness. Have you ever considered the fact that it is more than plausible that Jesus could have explained that conversation to his followers who then wrote it down in a book?... 🤔
It's really not that hard to understand if you actually use that blob of highly-evolved primordial slime inside your skull.
@@GraftedOliveBranch Tom is this way deliberately, we are no longer talking to him.
@@godislove363 understandable.
What he is saying essential is the historical stuff is true therefore everything else in the Bible is true to, I’m not sure that’s a good way to do it. What if someone picked up a Spider-Man book and read it than found out New York was a real place, should they believe spider man is real also since somethings are true or should they go claim by claim?
He never said that just because the Gospels are true, the whole Bible is true. He's saying because the Gospels are historically reliable, that makes Jesus a reliable person, and because Jesus, who is reliable, treated the OT as the word of God, he trusts Jesus that it is.