@@barking_mad6649 then you would have a much better reason to have space legs, since now you would be able to walk on inside your station. the problem is that odyssey doesn't add anything to the core experience of the game, it's like a different game attached to the original game. it would be great later on when we have more mechanics that could interact with it.
@@danilooliveira6580 Doesn't' add anything? Like the rest of the game it needs refinement. Exobiology is now a success and all they had to do really was increase rewards. Tweaks to gameplay rewards and progression and meaningful experiences. Im glad that this updated is focus on space and ships though.
@@Nopesky5893 read the rest of my comment, please. it doesn't add anything to the core experience, it feels like a different game attached to the original game. if you don't get odyssey the only thing you lose is the ability of playing a mid to low quality shooter. it's meaningless to the game as a whole. if you had the ability to walk inside your ships, stations, and interact with NPCs, like X4 and SC, on the other hand, it would be a lot more meaningful.
It’s weird seeing Frontier starting to care about Elite again. I’d love to know what changed at frontier. I genuinely hope it’s not too late and that we can make elite great again.
Gonna be a long time before we expand that far (Formorian Frontier), but I know exactly what I want to build and where. There’s a system called Hypatia’s Lighthouse, would love to build a starport there called Pharos Station. Feels like they’d need to bring back player faction creation for all of these new systems, no?
Didn't have "Frontier developing something potentially fun for Elite" in my 2024 bingo card, what a pleasant surprise. Hope they don't screw up making it a player group thing, since there is more than enough space in... space.
I stopped playing ED when it shut down consoles. But I did migrate my account to PC and I may start playing again with the system colonization update. I've always said they needed a terraforming mechanism for players.
This is literally what I have had dreams about back when I was first playing odessey missions! With a couple more large features, elite could make itself the greatest space game without a question!
Heh, you made a video last October asking what players wanted to see in the game and this is very similar to what I and a couple of others hoped for! Very cool to see this and it will definitely bring me back to the game.
I am really pleased to see Elite getting some love this year. A while back I was wondering if the game was ever going to bounce back. I have started playing again recently and I must say, the engineering rebalancing and general optimization improvements have been very welcome. I am having great fun raiding settlements as you no longer need to grind so much in order to upgrade your gear.
I came back during the sixth Titan, and had a really fun couple of weeks. The Engy grind got decimated during that week, and in hours I had G5 full in every type.
I am *cautiously* optimistic. It sounds good on paper, but... it's FDev we are talking about. They would find a way to make eating chocolate a boring grind and call it "gameplay". We have to live and see.
It's just another BS time grind to make a new system connected to the bubble. It has all the same assets as the thousands of other systems. It's pointless really.
It's enough to pique interest. I expect it's going to be CG scale, though. Prior station builds have been, including the scale hacks as FDev dramatically misestimate player abilities and interest.
@@afaxmachine5045 Could be a combo of '1st discovery' and credits. 10 billion to hire the construction ship and associated crew and materials to come build the station, rather than delivering a million tonnes of x and y. I agree with OP though, it needs to be solo accessible, whatever the mechanic.
Elite doesn't really have big clans and organisations like some other games. Carriers were originally intended to be Clan owned before being charged to be owned by individual players. I imagine this will be the same.
This will make Deep Space Exploration, tremendously easier. Alot of players already use Fleet Carriers in a web across the galaxy, so having stations dotted in-between will make refueling the carriers easier
They said you could daisy-chain colonized star systems to reach far. I think we'll be able to create a grid of support systems across the galaxy eventually. I imagine it could eventually make STAR and DSSA carriers obsolete.
Perhaps you're merely being short-sighted. It'll be a pre-grind-fest for a larger grind-fest for some end-game perpetual grind that unlocks more grind. They're not ones to pussy foot about when it comes to a spot of tedium 🤌
Sounds promising. I miss ED, and I was sad to leave it when Frontier stopped supporting us console players. Glad to hear new stuff is still being done for the game.
Your sacrifice made this all possible. Sad it had to be this way, but you have to admit the franchise is better off. I appreciate you, and all the other console commanders. Perhaps we'll see you someday on the pc-side. Until then, o7 commander.
@@recon939 I've done my fair share of bashing as you say, but this one was different because the op seems to have made peace with the reality, not sitting around sulking and flaming fdev years on. Its undeniable the game is better off now. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good overall. I stand with fdev in their decision. But the CC's, especially honorable ones such as the op are not forgotten.
@Tamburello_1994 Most people know PC's run the gaming community, but I've been a console play since the Nintendo it's just more comfortable to me. I feel like it is more corporate greed that holds console back more than anything, not knowing all the specifics on hardware new console seem closer to PC more than ever and any reason why they can't make games for both seem to come down to money or corporate nonsense. Just my opinion.
@recon939 I've always been a console player, but I think Elite Dangerous is a rare instance where gaming communities across all platforms came together. It's a shame Frontier chose not to continue with console support, but I really enjoyed my time with the game and it's online comunity
I think its time to go back to Elite. I thought Star Citizen would be my game but I cannot stand the bugs and crashes. Think its time to come home to Elite
Hearing SC is still a buggy mess still makes me sad. I quit playing years ago and thought if I waited a few years I’d try again. Has it gotten any better recently with updates this year?
When my brother and I took a trip out towards the rim of the galaxy, we kept finding awesome planets and systems that we would have loved to set up bases or colonies on. Would be cool if you could build way out there, I guess we'll see!
It would be cool if once you've built your way there you could kind of cut off the chain you made to get there and have an independent little bubble somewhere
Colonizing outwards from the bubble, we won't be able to colonize systems way out in the rim. They made that clear during the stream. Maybe eventually we'll get there, they haven't given details on how far or close to the bubble we need to be.
@@pandafoz9994 That's how I see it, I wonder how close we need to be to the bubble? Also, how many billions or trillions of credits needed? I hoping at least it's not much to start something and maybe the allow others to build more expensive structures.
Every time I watch an ObsidianAnt video I am reminded of how much better the lighting and graphics are in Horizons and what we've lost and are never getting back.
Oh ty for this. I recently returned and noticed it looks horrible! I've been trying to adjust my settings to get it to look how I remembered. I can't do it. I keep asking myself "How is it possible this looked sooo much better on console?" Now I know why.
oh, i actually love the looks of the Cobra V, it looks enough like the older cobra's to still be recognizable, but it also looks new and kinda makes me think of a space stealth bomber
I stopped playing when the game became a targoid target shooting simulator, this might make me come back. I'm still sad a peaceful approach was never even an option.
The one single thing I have always wanted in E:D is player colonization and station building. If they nail this, it'd make a lil dream come true for me!
I hope the colonization ship carries a group of the controlling minor faction from the system in which the colonization ship was paid for (and this can be done in any occupied system) thus, minor factions actually have a way to expand into previously unoccupied territories.
Thanks for the update Ant. Very interesting... Interesting enough to get me back into the game maybe. Sounds a lot like Elite is getting some love again which is great to see and about 4 years overdue. I do wonder what has changed over at Fdev to cause this.
I discovered a few star systems with earth like planets a couple years ago just for the possibility of one day being able to claim it and colonize it. Exciting!
All these new updates have me coming back to the game again. Frontier have surprised me I thought the game was going to dwindle and fade into obscurity but this is all amazing news.
Guys the mandalay is amazing. Not only does it have a pretty decent base increase over the asp explorer in terms of range, but it turns on a dime both in standard flight, and in super cruise. And the benefit I haven't seen anybody talk about quite yet is just how efficient the super cruise overcharge is in this thing. in my asp explorer, i would begin to overheat within about ten seconds of using it, and my fuel gauge would drop so fast that I would never really be able to cross large distances efficiently. The heat in my mandalay, seems to actually cap out at around sixty five percent, it literally just stops going up. Not to mention that the fuel burn rate is far far slower, so much slower that using boost for every destination is actually viable so long as you're not in a dead star region with no fuel for a long while.
I’ve been colonizing systems and building space stations (and destroying stations of my enemies) for years in X4 and SE. Adding this to Elite won’t bring me back because the bugs and performance issues remain. But if I were still interested in Elite, this gameplay would be welcome as long as it is limited (one system per player).
Trading in Elite is a series of "step ups". You start with a small ship and each time you "step up" your ship size, your ability to make money jumps. Once you hit carrier level though you end up wandering "what next"? Even simple colonisation would be fun, but hopefully there's a "step up" benefit. I've always wanted to be able to create a fleet of trading ships where I can find good trade routes, park my carrier(s) nearby, load up with a good comodity then jump to another system and unload (with help from NPCs). Having a colony on a planet that produces ore, which can be loaded onto the nearby carrier would be a great "step up", even if you had to do the run yourself, but each time you did, you had a number of NPCs follow you with additional goods.
@@barking_mad6649I have no expectations for this. Odyssey was supposed to change elite. It was all just a minimum viable product and in the process burned an entire console playerbase. If I know FDev, this will be implemented in such a cheap way or worse grind forever.
Very interesting to see both Elite and star citizen announce player built space stations. It's pretty obvious who will have theirs up and running first, but it's going to be interesting to see how the two games approach it.
Elite's will definitely get theirs out first, but I can see it being very generic, fun for a little while, but lacking in depth and detail, and it basically works as a hold-me-over until Star Citizen adds theirs.
@@Billy-bc8pkIt's just going to be the exact same space station as all the other. You just grind for it to be built. These systems will literally just be the same as all the others.
Star citizen only have 5 systems in 1.0 and jump gates between those 5, elite has the milkyway and no jumpgates. I take generic and wide since I want to build a station far away from everything @@Billy-bc8pk
Meaningful Gameplay ,only missing thing in ED, thank you FDEV , keep up the good work Player Orbital Stations, Trade Outposts , Mining colonies ... And we need variety in game, to buy/find very cheap/valuable things/ thrusters/ engines/ shields in distant god forgoten galaxy dump/cave/bar Ability to buy different mining equipment for our mining stations, orbital stations/ outposts.
it would be really cool if we could colonize far away systems in a middle of nowhere and develop them over time. Just imagine independent societies of players that you could visit while exploring galaxy.
No wayyyyy. I’m very hyped, I hope they add atmospheric planets. I’ve always thought that they don’t even have to put earth like worlds I just wish they have full atmosphere like life less water worlds
I would not get my hopes up for atmospheric planets. It could be very demanding and who knows if they would be able to make it happen. Engine could be limiting factor even.
@@likilike501 your rightttt, idk it’s just something I hope for, cause it doesn’t seem to demanding other than colouring the sky and adding more terrain differences. Since they’d be barren it would only require that. Ik it’s a bit silly but having the option would be nice u know?
@@likilike501 It's not limited at all. A water world would be no different than what we have already. That's probably why they don't waste time doing it.
@@anakinjovanus1135Keep that hope alive, I mean I can’t see a reason as too why wouldn’t let us just land on atmospheric planets outside the bubble as they wouldn’t have too design huge cities on them as we would be colonising them ourselves.
They've only just announced it. It'll be a good 5 years plus before we see anything. FDEV take years just to make a couple of reverse engineer NPCs. ... if we ever actually see anything...
I think the only reason they're starting to give 2 cents about ED is that they see the new features that SC is bringing into their own game. But, they still need to make major changes to keep players interested in the game, have a few new ships won't do it or a space station.
@@bandybushido But isn't it curious that two weeks after them anouncing space stations and base buildings, Frontier suddenly allows something similar? And they don't show anything concrete other than few screenshots of stations build from existing assets... C'mon it looks fishy IMHO.
They teased the feature at the start of this year, and base building is quite frankly not a new concept in the sci fi genre to begin with. @@keeperofthefate
Excellent! I hope at some point they combine it with a sort of Sim-City engine to add more complexity to planetary colonies. They could be self-evolving or player guided.
In system jumps would be great! Limited to 1 jump without docking again, and a big chunky module taking up space again forcing you to choose if you want it
Last time I was excited was for Fleet Carriers, and that was so over promised and under delivered that i moved Elite to my "dead games" category on Steam next to Hawken and Loadout.
Agree. Although I think that this will hit different. Let's be honest. The fleet careers were rather a gimmic compared to possibility of colonization. If done well it will be golden I am just hoping that every new system will expand the area for new colonies (which would make sense). I hope they won't nerf it in a weird name, artificially blocking players for really expanding the game living world
I did not expect that to be honest and I am very, very positively surprised. It's been almost two years that I logged into Elite the last time, but damn, that stuff is certainly bringing me back. Even if the colonization feature is still somewhere in the future (and we all know FDev's delays), I'm eager to get back into the cockpit.
Announcing something and actually producing something playable and entertaining is two very different things for Frontier. Come back in 5 years and they might have done something... maybe... if they haven't abandoned it like they did VR or consoles.
Until servers are shut down and Elite is dead for good, I will not stop asking for ship interiors. And I could not care less if anybody have super bulletproof argument against it. I want my interiors. Anyway, nice to see some new stuff.
A large part of the reason people spend ludicious money to buy ships in SC are the interiors. Giving players the feeling of ownership even if it is just a digital object.
@@Kev-Mulv this *exactly*. give the grind a purpose, there's something that's *yours*. Being able to customize your dashboard with the bobble heads and all that shows that they must kinda get it. Being able to customize the whole interior of your ship, make it feel lived in, would be so awesome.
@@alexanderlane The Large class of ships in E:D are basically flying apartment blocks. The other 2 classes are roomy or comfy, respectively. Part of the sci-fi fantasy is that your starship is your home, and you travel around the galaxy having adventures in it. Interior design is critical to that fantasy; Cloud Imperium understand this. Frontier are selling ships outright now, and they must be making some bank because they're giving E:D increasing attention. Some people disapprove selling ships but if it keeps Elite alive I'm all for it, there is no other game like it.
They've needed to do this. 99%+ of the galaxy is still unexplored let alone occupied. If every active player had a thousand systems it wouldn't make a scratch in the space available to expand.
This is heading in the direction I originally wished for Elite - something like "EVE Online light" background and player economy setup and first person flying ships. I am certainly going to dust off the joystick and pedals and poke my head back into Elite to have a look around.
Stop right here. There not gonna be player based economy. As I understand it we gonna choce if system gonna be more agricurtla, industyr, military etc. directed. Please don't expect nothing they didn't specifilly and directlly said or show
@@fistsofsnake5475 errm I never said there was going to be - what I said was that I *originally wished* that there would be a player economy. I see these changes as going in that direction a bit, but I am not expecting there to suddenly be a full player economy imminently.
There will surely have to be a resource-gathering element to produce expanded facilities in a system including extra surface bases. I love the idea of my own system and maybe defending it from raiders.
There's the potential for so many further systems (in the gaming sense, not the astronomical sense) to spin out of this one, could totally be the start of something really cool!
Well slowly but surely Frontier is adding mechanics that they promised when they were on Kickstarter. And I hope they will add, like this one, mechanics that they didn't even mention at the beginning of the game's development.
A big and fairly surprising step in the right direction for Elite! Wasn’t expecting that! Weird to see FDev start adding meaningful stuff to Elite again, but I hope it’s a sign of more to come. More depth to ship gameplay via ship interiors plz? I can dream… either way, this update is gonna probably get me back into Elite.
the new cobra is genuinely a super cool design and reminds me of why i got into elite in the first place, the ship design. it's a little sad for me that i can't find any reason to actually get back into the game, there's no point in grinding to buy a cool new ship if there's no new gameplay i'm excited about, i just can't make myself care about power play or system building if it doesn't include an on foot survival/base building aspect to help anchor the player
Elite is my favorite game and the one that I spent the most hours in, by far. I got into it on XBox and it doesn't make sense for me to build a PC, so I've not played for a few years now. I missed the ability to transfer my save to PC so even if I did get a PC I can't imagine finding the time to accomplish all of the engineering and wealth that I did on console. However, if there were significant improvements made as discussed here, I might be inclined to start a fresh game on PC. Even if it were base building mechanics similar to Starfield, that would be awesome.
You can still transfer your account, and they give you a free copy of Horizons. Google "Elite Commander Console Migration" You get to keep all your stuff and continue the same save.
I transferred recently. I use Geforce Now and stream it to the TV while using a controller (with wireless keyboard at hand). Bought Odyessy for £6. It's great!
Yo, i moved from console about 4 months ago, only thing i lost is the reputation with the factions in the game. Everything else is transferred from console to PC, all the engineering modules and ships, and materials. Also the fleet carrier will need to be decommissioned from console version and you will get the money back and you can buy a new one on PC. So not sure where you get your will loose everything. You lose 3 things, faction reputation, fleet carrier which needs to be decommissioned, and your AI crew. Other than that everyone else is same….
I feel like the cobra mark v is almost like a statement like this is the new era of elite and the new cobra is announcing the start of a new future for the game.
System Colonization will likely be an immense task which will take thousands of resources to even do, or an immense amount of credits to upkeep the process which could take months of real time to do. I'm for it though, it's a unique take that's 'base-building adjacent' in some ways, and I think that's pretty cool in all honesty. Also that cobra Mk 5 looks AMAZING and I will be buying it with money when it comes out.
Oh, I hope it's possible to make self-sufficient systems and/or lets systems you own (in range of jump drives) trade with each others. And as an eve player ofc I will look keenly into the possibility to make some money with planetary interactions like mines farms and so on to fuel the production chain.
I think it will be the top yier powerplay reward. You'll unlock the colonization ship and get the privilege to colonize in the name of Mahon, Duvall, or whoever you pledged to.
That's a good idea, but from what they said, you colonise the system first and if players want they can push the powers to come there, so the colonisation is probably not originated from powers. Better : you colonise it in your own name ! (if I got it right)
i hope that we get to place structures and manage the system, but i have a feeling it'll be dump tons of resources into something just to keep your name above the door
I could not care less. I just wanted a Freelancer like space sim - a single-player game with normal save-load system; focused on spaceflight, trading, combat, adventure etc; mixing narrative elements with a sandbox universe populated with colorful NPCs, companions, factions, guilds, with a plethora of ships and equipment distributed across different regions and factions; land on planet and space stations, speak to NPCs, get jobs etc. We have added 100+ space sims in the past decade or so. Not a single one has even tried to do even 50% of what Freelancer did 20+ years ago.
@@hibbidyjibbidyy I had high hopes for Rebel Galaxy (Outlaw), but the game world is very barebones in terms of factions, locations, ships etc. But yeah, you are right that RGO is the closest one to Freelancer, however distantly. Impressive how much they achieved with a two-person dev team. If the developers had not abandoned their DLC and modding tool plans, it might have gotten there.
The main thing that would bring me back would be the old Imperial Courier from the Frontier games. There was an awesome modern interpretation done by a fan, looked like a bird of prey styled warship to match my imagination. So far we've got a sports car with the name and a luxury yacht with the size and rough engine layout. Neither evoke my nostalgia for the old ship.
Personally, this new ship being another Cobra is,... sad. I'd much prefer brand new designs instead of rebuilt "variants". Still gonna buy it, but still. :( Colonization sounds like there's a lot of potential in it. I hope they nail it and do tons with it. Hopefully we can get some new community goals and gameplay opportunities to go along with it. 🤞
@valaryc nah, it's pretty obvious it's a development and advanment of a Cobra but every thing has been changed and if you stick a Mk3 and Mk5 side by side they are totally different, but you have eyes and can see that for yourself but you probably wanted something different like a Panther Clipper, which is fine, but I like a new imagened Cobra that will be a proper ship like it should be a the poster ship of the game unlike the Mk3
@@___Snake___ Don't make assumptions on my behalf, thanks. I said what I said and it still stands exactly as it was written. If you're looking to argue, go somewhere else with it. Goodbye. I will not engage further.
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If only Frontier had gone down this road six years ago. A journey into the unknown. They could have called it something like, say, Odyssey!
And you'd have people complaining they still can't walk about on planets 10 years after release..... 😊
@@barking_mad6649 then you would have a much better reason to have space legs, since now you would be able to walk on inside your station. the problem is that odyssey doesn't add anything to the core experience of the game, it's like a different game attached to the original game. it would be great later on when we have more mechanics that could interact with it.
@@barking_mad6649 Yeah now people just complain about how bad Odyssey is.
@@danilooliveira6580 Doesn't' add anything? Like the rest of the game it needs refinement. Exobiology is now a success and all they had to do really was increase rewards. Tweaks to gameplay rewards and progression and meaningful experiences. Im glad that this updated is focus on space and ships though.
@@Nopesky5893 read the rest of my comment, please. it doesn't add anything to the core experience, it feels like a different game attached to the original game. if you don't get odyssey the only thing you lose is the ability of playing a mid to low quality shooter. it's meaningless to the game as a whole. if you had the ability to walk inside your ships, stations, and interact with NPCs, like X4 and SC, on the other hand, it would be a lot more meaningful.
It’s weird seeing Frontier starting to care about Elite again. I’d love to know what changed at frontier. I genuinely hope it’s not too late and that we can make elite great again.
God I hope this means they might look at consoles again
+1000000000 make elite great again - MEGA
I am happy they are showing serious love.
Failure of other projects.
@@mobiusone6994 I wish because its such a shame consoles were left out but its just not something that could run well enough on a console
The idea of putting a space station out in the formidine rift for easier exploration sounds awesome and brings some hope to my little explorers heart.
Mine too, I've been away so long I need to oil the rusted hangar doors.
It's going to revolutionize exploration. We can daisy chain colonies to the center of the galaxy.
Finally development ouside the bubble.
Same here we can finally start to colonize the other side of the galaxy
Gonna be a long time before we expand that far (Formorian Frontier), but I know exactly what I want to build and where. There’s a system called Hypatia’s Lighthouse, would love to build a starport there called Pharos Station.
Feels like they’d need to bring back player faction creation for all of these new systems, no?
Didn't have "Frontier developing something potentially fun for Elite" in my 2024 bingo card, what a pleasant surprise.
Hope they don't screw up making it a player group thing, since there is more than enough space in... space.
For real, imagine how long it would take to colonize even a fraction of a fraction of the explored star systems.
don't get hyped yet. we have no idea how they are going to implement it. it's quite possible they will majorly fuck it up.
@@danilooliveira6580 oh i know, bought the game before the release and have plenty of experience with being let down by Frontier
Not gonna get ahead of myself and get excited.
Frontier ALWAYS half ass shit. Ill be shocked if this is any different
No, it def needs to be a player group thing.
I stopped playing ED when it shut down consoles. But I did migrate my account to PC and I may start playing again with the system colonization update. I've always said they needed a terraforming mechanism for players.
The real question is why you played on a peasant console to begin with?
Lol@@azynkron
@@azynkron You wanna talk about it? ;)
@@azynkron dude....
Gives me a slight amount of hope for a possible re-release on PS5.
This is literally what I have had dreams about back when I was first playing odessey missions! With a couple more large features, elite could make itself the greatest space game without a question!
Heh, you made a video last October asking what players wanted to see in the game and this is very similar to what I and a couple of others hoped for! Very cool to see this and it will definitely bring me back to the game.
I am really pleased to see Elite getting some love this year. A while back I was wondering if the game was ever going to bounce back. I have started playing again recently and I must say, the engineering rebalancing and general optimization improvements have been very welcome. I am having great fun raiding settlements as you no longer need to grind so much in order to upgrade your gear.
I came back during the sixth Titan, and had a really fun couple of weeks. The Engy grind got decimated during that week, and in hours I had G5 full in every type.
I am *cautiously* optimistic. It sounds good on paper, but... it's FDev we are talking about. They would find a way to make eating chocolate a boring grind and call it "gameplay". We have to live and see.
FDev has been doing a great job of late and deserve a bit of praise, and perhaps a look. You're missing out.
It's just another BS time grind to make a new system connected to the bubble. It has all the same assets as the thousands of other systems. It's pointless really.
Word. That's exactly what's gonna happen yet again (by 2030).
@@Tamburello_1994too little, too late
@@cmdrgarbage1895 Why are you here then?
Enjoy out looking in? LOL.
For me personally these would be very interesting updates IF they’re realistic to do solo and don’t require player groups.
It's enough to pique interest. I expect it's going to be CG scale, though. Prior station builds have been, including the scale hacks as FDev dramatically misestimate player abilities and interest.
It might be possible for solos to do some of the content, but I expect it will either take a very long time for solos to build things like space ports
@@afaxmachine5045 Could be a combo of '1st discovery' and credits. 10 billion to hire the construction ship and associated crew and materials to come build the station, rather than delivering a million tonnes of x and y. I agree with OP though, it needs to be solo accessible, whatever the mechanic.
Probably this is not even for groups, probably this is community related.
Elite doesn't really have big clans and organisations like some other games. Carriers were originally intended to be Clan owned before being charged to be owned by individual players. I imagine this will be the same.
This will make Deep Space Exploration, tremendously easier. Alot of players already use Fleet Carriers in a web across the galaxy, so having stations dotted in-between will make refueling the carriers easier
He did say that there will be a limit how far from the bubble you can go, so this isn’t going to be a New Colonia thing.
They said you could daisy-chain colonized star systems to reach far. I think we'll be able to create a grid of support systems across the galaxy eventually. I imagine it could eventually make STAR and DSSA carriers obsolete.
@@PhilHibbs Don't doubt the capabilities of the Eiite community. o7 ;)
Maybe I'm jaded, but I smell another grind-fest.
Perhaps you're merely being short-sighted. It'll be a pre-grind-fest for a larger grind-fest for some end-game perpetual grind that unlocks more grind. They're not ones to pussy foot about when it comes to a spot of tedium 🤌
I quit in 2016 when they dropped engineers.
I don't mind, end game players need something to do.
Exactly my thoughts. Just sounds like they are introducing the engineers all over again, just to slam us with an RNG nightmare
It's elite the grind is its most defining feture
Ok... they got my attention with this update... I'll keep an eye on it
Sounds promising. I miss ED, and I was sad to leave it when Frontier stopped supporting us console players. Glad to hear new stuff is still being done for the game.
Your sacrifice made this all possible. Sad it had to be this way, but you have to admit the franchise is better off. I appreciate you, and all the other console commanders. Perhaps we'll see you someday on the pc-side. Until then, o7 commander.
@Tamburello_1994 Wow, one of the few comments I see that is not bashing console players. Thanks for that.
@@recon939 I've done my fair share of bashing as you say, but this one was different because the op seems to have made peace with the reality, not sitting around sulking and flaming fdev years on.
Its undeniable the game is better off now. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good overall. I stand with fdev in their decision. But the CC's, especially honorable ones such as the op are not forgotten.
@Tamburello_1994 Most people know PC's run the gaming community, but I've been a console play since the Nintendo it's just more comfortable to me. I feel like it is more corporate greed that holds console back more than anything, not knowing all the specifics on hardware new console seem closer to PC more than ever and any reason why they can't make games for both seem to come down to money or corporate nonsense. Just my opinion.
@recon939 I've always been a console player, but I think Elite Dangerous is a rare instance where gaming communities across all platforms came together. It's a shame Frontier chose not to continue with console support, but I really enjoyed my time with the game and it's online comunity
I think its time to go back to Elite. I thought Star Citizen would be my game but I cannot stand the bugs and crashes. Think its time to come home to Elite
I play both. SC game stability is a horror...
o7 CMDR!
Welcome back.
Hearing SC is still a buggy mess still makes me sad. I quit playing years ago and thought if I waited a few years I’d try again. Has it gotten any better recently with updates this year?
where ever you fly best wishes to you. O7
When my brother and I took a trip out towards the rim of the galaxy, we kept finding awesome planets and systems that we would have loved to set up bases or colonies on. Would be cool if you could build way out there, I guess we'll see!
It would be cool if once you've built your way there you could kind of cut off the chain you made to get there and have an independent little bubble somewhere
Colonizing outwards from the bubble, we won't be able to colonize systems way out in the rim. They made that clear during the stream. Maybe eventually we'll get there, they haven't given details on how far or close to the bubble we need to be.
@@mattjohnson7369 They said that would be possible, but you would have to chain your way out there over time. Like the Colonia Bridge Project.
@@mojoxftn1526 "Colonizing outwards from the bubble" That's what I said lol.
@@pandafoz9994 That's how I see it, I wonder how close we need to be to the bubble? Also, how many billions or trillions of credits needed? I hoping at least it's not much to start something and maybe the allow others to build more expensive structures.
They started selling ships and the money arrived, result:
Now they need to sell Odyssey on consoles and maybe a lot more money will arrive.
The star citizen model works!
I'm Def going to chip in by buying some skins etc.
And if the keep adding stuff I'll keep chipping in...
@@Nenolinkbut fdev doesn't abuse it, so far at least.
Now they need to do the interiors walkable and interactable
All of this is cool, but I just wanna walk around my ships in VR 😭
VR? I wanna walk in my ships normally. If they don't do that, I'm not coming back from Star Citizen.
@@oArquidruida Glad to see we have time travelers from 100 years in the future, where Star Citizen is finally released!
@@kristoffer8609 even on alpha it beats elite dangerous in fun and immersion.
@oArquidruida Yet it's still less fun than Freelancer. A game released 20 years ago.
I will absolutely get into this again omg.
Probably going to cost a 1 with 72 zeroes after it to pay for the spaceport and a million tones of Thargoid tears.
I've been waiting for this for more than 5,500 hours and 10 years!
That's the first of the new ships that really works for me, just on looks and concept alone. Frontier has been cooking and it's awesome.
Every time I watch an ObsidianAnt video I am reminded of how much better the lighting and graphics are in Horizons and what we've lost and are never getting back.
Oh ty for this.
I recently returned and noticed it looks horrible!
I've been trying to adjust my settings to get it to look how I remembered.
I can't do it.
I keep asking myself
"How is it possible this looked sooo much better on console?"
Now I know why.
oh, i actually love the looks of the Cobra V, it looks enough like the older cobra's to still be recognizable, but it also looks new and kinda makes me think of a space stealth bomber
I stopped playing when the game became a targoid target shooting simulator, this might make me come back. I'm still sad a peaceful approach was never even an option.
The one single thing I have always wanted in E:D is player colonization and station building. If they nail this, it'd make a lil dream come true for me!
8:50 What star system is that? I haven't seen a star with rings before. Usually its just gas giants, etc...
I hope the colonization ship carries a group of the controlling minor faction from the system in which the colonization ship was paid for (and this can be done in any occupied system) thus, minor factions actually have a way to expand into previously unoccupied territories.
I would love it. My faction weant to go to specific system but we bit far from it right now so it would give us a chance. Let's wait and see
Thanks for the update Ant. Very interesting... Interesting enough to get me back into the game maybe. Sounds a lot like Elite is getting some love again which is great to see and about 4 years overdue. I do wonder what has changed over at Fdev to cause this.
I discovered a few star systems with earth like planets a couple years ago just for the possibility of one day being able to claim it and colonize it. Exciting!
Are we able to land on those type of planets yet? Just wondering since I haven't played the game in about a year.
No@@brianawilk285
All these new updates have me coming back to the game again. Frontier have surprised me I thought the game was going to dwindle and fade into obscurity but this is all amazing news.
Guys the mandalay is amazing. Not only does it have a pretty decent base increase over the asp explorer in terms of range, but it turns on a dime both in standard flight, and in super cruise.
And the benefit I haven't seen anybody talk about quite yet is just how efficient the super cruise overcharge is in this thing. in my asp explorer, i would begin to overheat within about ten seconds of using it, and my fuel gauge would drop so fast that I would never really be able to cross large distances efficiently.
The heat in my mandalay, seems to actually cap out at around sixty five percent, it literally just stops going up. Not to mention that the fuel burn rate is far far slower, so much slower that using boost for every destination is actually viable so long as you're not in a dead star region with no fuel for a long while.
yay, awesome sauce! This sounds like a great thing coming to elite!
I’ve been colonizing systems and building space stations (and destroying stations of my enemies) for years in X4 and SE. Adding this to Elite won’t bring me back because the bugs and performance issues remain. But if I were still interested in Elite, this gameplay would be welcome as long as it is limited (one system per player).
This sounds incredible. I expect the gameplay loop to be a nightmare but i'm willing to give it a try.
This could be a cool idea, let's hope it doesn't have a way to be ruined by gankers so long as Frontier does nothing about that issue with Open Play
Trading in Elite is a series of "step ups". You start with a small ship and each time you "step up" your ship size, your ability to make money jumps. Once you hit carrier level though you end up wandering "what next"? Even simple colonisation would be fun, but hopefully there's a "step up" benefit. I've always wanted to be able to create a fleet of trading ships where I can find good trade routes, park my carrier(s) nearby, load up with a good comodity then jump to another system and unload (with help from NPCs). Having a colony on a planet that produces ore, which can be loaded onto the nearby carrier would be a great "step up", even if you had to do the run yourself, but each time you did, you had a number of NPCs follow you with additional goods.
This game still has so much potential. More potential than any other space game. As long as they never abandon their platform
😂 it is totally has potential but Frontier loves to ruin it.
@@halonkin2yet here we are...
Do you mean how they abandoned consoles?
@@barking_mad6649I have no expectations for this. Odyssey was supposed to change elite. It was all just a minimum viable product and in the process burned an entire console playerbase. If I know FDev, this will be implemented in such a cheap way or worse grind forever.
Another one who lets Yamiks think for him
It's good to see Elite getting some love.
Very interesting to see both Elite and star citizen announce player built space stations. It's pretty obvious who will have theirs up and running first, but it's going to be interesting to see how the two games approach it.
I wouldn't count on SC getting anything up and running
Elite's will definitely get theirs out first, but I can see it being very generic, fun for a little while, but lacking in depth and detail, and it basically works as a hold-me-over until Star Citizen adds theirs.
@@Billy-bc8pkIt's just going to be the exact same space station as all the other. You just grind for it to be built. These systems will literally just be the same as all the others.
Star citizen only have 5 systems in 1.0 and jump gates between those 5, elite has the milkyway and no jumpgates. I take generic and wide since I want to build a station far away from everything @@Billy-bc8pk
Meaningful Gameplay ,only missing thing in ED, thank you FDEV , keep up the good work
Player Orbital Stations, Trade Outposts , Mining colonies ...
And we need variety in game, to buy/find very cheap/valuable things/ thrusters/ engines/ shields in distant god forgoten galaxy dump/cave/bar
Ability to buy different mining equipment for our mining stations, orbital stations/ outposts.
it would be really cool if we could colonize far away systems in a middle of nowhere and develop them over time.
Just imagine independent societies of players that you could visit while exploring galaxy.
Interesting. Thanks for the video Obsidian.
No wayyyyy. I’m very hyped, I hope they add atmospheric planets. I’ve always thought that they don’t even have to put earth like worlds I just wish they have full atmosphere like life less water worlds
I would not get my hopes up for atmospheric planets. It could be very demanding and who knows if they would be able to make it happen. Engine could be limiting factor even.
@@likilike501 your rightttt, idk it’s just something I hope for, cause it doesn’t seem to demanding other than colouring the sky and adding more terrain differences. Since they’d be barren it would only require that. Ik it’s a bit silly but having the option would be nice u know?
@@likilike501 It's not limited at all. A water world would be no different than what we have already. That's probably why they don't waste time doing it.
@@anakinjovanus1135Keep that hope alive, I mean I can’t see a reason as too why wouldn’t let us just land on atmospheric planets outside the bubble as they wouldn’t have too design huge cities on them as we would be colonising them ourselves.
We definitely need thicker atmospheres... Maybe they could call the expansion Elite Worlds...
Wow! This is great news!
interesting...
after years away from elite, i might actually jump back in the cockpit.
Yesterday, after a yatus of a couple of year i reconnected my hotas to the pc... and scratched of the dust from my ships :D
They've only just announced it. It'll be a good 5 years plus before we see anything. FDEV take years just to make a couple of reverse engineer NPCs.
... if we ever actually see anything...
This sounds amazing, cant wait! Now
we are able to put our fingerprint on the universe
OK now I'm excited.
Wonderful news! Elite lives on!
I think the only reason they're starting to give 2 cents about ED is that they see the new features that SC is bringing into their own game. But, they still need to make major changes to keep players interested in the game, have a few new ships won't do it or a space station.
That one. Elephant in the room that Obsidian Ant conviniently don't talk about.
Star Citizen influences no fucking one, unless you are building a bug simulator and Elite, ED came first pilgrim so ?
@@Macskinny76 Star Citizen isn’t a game. It doesn’t compete with anything. It’s just a tech demo that eats cash.
@@bandybushido But isn't it curious that two weeks after them anouncing space stations and base buildings, Frontier suddenly allows something similar? And they don't show anything concrete other than few screenshots of stations build from existing assets... C'mon it looks fishy IMHO.
They teased the feature at the start of this year, and base building is quite frankly not a new concept in the sci fi genre to begin with. @@keeperofthefate
Excellent! I hope at some point they combine it with a sort of Sim-City engine to add more complexity to planetary colonies. They could be self-evolving or player guided.
Back when I was really into ED I suggested they do this on their forums. That was 9 years ago.
Just started playing Elite again with the arrival of the Mandalay. This new feature sounds pretty amazing!
This have a lot of potential, If implemented well...
In system jumps would be great! Limited to 1 jump without docking again, and a big chunky module taking up space again forcing you to choose if you want it
Last time I was excited was for Fleet Carriers, and that was so over promised and under delivered that i moved Elite to my "dead games" category on Steam next to Hawken and Loadout.
Haven't heard of Hawken in a long time -- sad that that game had two chances to become something and died both times.
@@Billy-bc8pksome time ago the original Hawken was revived by the community as the Hawakening project. It isn't dead anymore!
Agree. Although I think that this will hit different. Let's be honest. The fleet careers were rather a gimmic compared to possibility of colonization. If done well it will be golden I am just hoping that every new system will expand the area for new colonies (which would make sense). I hope they won't nerf it in a weird name, artificially blocking players for really expanding the game living world
I did not expect that to be honest and I am very, very positively surprised. It's been almost two years that I logged into Elite the last time, but damn, that stuff is certainly bringing me back. Even if the colonization feature is still somewhere in the future (and we all know FDev's delays), I'm eager to get back into the cockpit.
Announcing something and actually producing something playable and entertaining is two very different things for Frontier.
Come back in 5 years and they might have done something... maybe... if they haven't abandoned it like they did VR or consoles.
Until servers are shut down and Elite is dead for good, I will not stop asking for ship interiors. And I could not care less if anybody have super bulletproof argument against it. I want my interiors.
Anyway, nice to see some new stuff.
I think it's just you bud. Well and me. And like 95% of the community. Tiny percentages 🤏
I love my ship interiors in Space Engineers and X4 Foundations. It makes a HUGE difference in immersion.
A large part of the reason people spend ludicious money to buy ships in SC are the interiors. Giving players the feeling of ownership even if it is just a digital object.
@@Kev-Mulv this *exactly*. give the grind a purpose, there's something that's *yours*. Being able to customize your dashboard with the bobble heads and all that shows that they must kinda get it. Being able to customize the whole interior of your ship, make it feel lived in, would be so awesome.
@@alexanderlane The Large class of ships in E:D are basically flying apartment blocks. The other 2 classes are roomy or comfy, respectively. Part of the sci-fi fantasy is that your starship is your home, and you travel around the galaxy having adventures in it. Interior design is critical to that fantasy; Cloud Imperium understand this. Frontier are selling ships outright now, and they must be making some bank because they're giving E:D increasing attention. Some people disapprove selling ships but if it keeps Elite alive I'm all for it, there is no other game like it.
Hell yea!! About damn time they do something like this.
Time to spread The Dark Wheel's influence to the edge of the galaxy!
Now, finally, this is impressive. I have quite a few planets to my name over the years, I assume I get first dibs on settling them.
They've needed to do this. 99%+ of the galaxy is still unexplored let alone occupied. If every active player had a thousand systems it wouldn't make a scratch in the space available to expand.
Well given active player counts barely registers into the low thousands these days.... that's not difficult lol
Really nice, they are actually trying to make the game better again. I love this game so much, hopefully they keep working on it.
This is heading in the direction I originally wished for Elite - something like "EVE Online light" background and player economy setup and first person flying ships. I am certainly going to dust off the joystick and pedals and poke my head back into Elite to have a look around.
Stop right here. There not gonna be player based economy. As I understand it we gonna choce if system gonna be more agricurtla, industyr, military etc. directed. Please don't expect nothing they didn't specifilly and directlly said or show
@@fistsofsnake5475 errm I never said there was going to be - what I said was that I *originally wished* that there would be a player economy. I see these changes as going in that direction a bit, but I am not expecting there to suddenly be a full player economy imminently.
There will surely have to be a resource-gathering element to produce expanded facilities in a system including extra surface bases. I love the idea of my own system and maybe defending it from raiders.
There's the potential for so many further systems (in the gaming sense, not the astronomical sense) to spin out of this one, could totally be the start of something really cool!
Well slowly but surely Frontier is adding mechanics that they promised when they were on Kickstarter. And I hope they will add, like this one, mechanics that they didn't even mention at the beginning of the game's development.
You had my curiosity, now you have my attention.
This is game changing. My dream was to be able to make stations and expand humanity. I'm so happy it's coming true
A big and fairly surprising step in the right direction for Elite! Wasn’t expecting that! Weird to see FDev start adding meaningful stuff to Elite again, but I hope it’s a sign of more to come. More depth to ship gameplay via ship interiors plz? I can dream… either way, this update is gonna probably get me back into Elite.
They're still going! I'm amazed that they've managed to not end up like Kerbal Space Program 2. That in of itself is pretty cool.
the new cobra is genuinely a super cool design and reminds me of why i got into elite in the first place, the ship design. it's a little sad for me that i can't find any reason to actually get back into the game, there's no point in grinding to buy a cool new ship if there's no new gameplay i'm excited about, i just can't make myself care about power play or system building if it doesn't include an on foot survival/base building aspect to help anchor the player
Elite is my favorite game and the one that I spent the most hours in, by far. I got into it on XBox and it doesn't make sense for me to build a PC, so I've not played for a few years now. I missed the ability to transfer my save to PC so even if I did get a PC I can't imagine finding the time to accomplish all of the engineering and wealth that I did on console. However, if there were significant improvements made as discussed here, I might be inclined to start a fresh game on PC. Even if it were base building mechanics similar to Starfield, that would be awesome.
You can still transfer your account, and they give you a free copy of Horizons.
Google "Elite Commander Console Migration"
You get to keep all your stuff and continue the same save.
I could have sworn they are still continuing limited transfers, aren't they?
I transferred recently. I use Geforce Now and stream it to the TV while using a controller (with wireless keyboard at hand). Bought Odyessy for £6. It's great!
Yo, i moved from console about 4 months ago, only thing i lost is the reputation with the factions in the game. Everything else is transferred from console to PC, all the engineering modules and ships, and materials. Also the fleet carrier will need to be decommissioned from console version and you will get the money back and you can buy a new one on PC. So not sure where you get your will loose everything. You lose 3 things, faction reputation, fleet carrier which needs to be decommissioned, and your AI crew. Other than that everyone else is same….
This is going to be a new era for ED when it comes to player count because this will make the game more favorable when it comes to Player Owned stuff.
this new gameplay feature is just amazing. Didn´t expect that
I feel like the cobra mark v is almost like a statement like this is the new era of elite and the new cobra is announcing the start of a new future for the game.
Fingers crossed you're right!
@@alexanderlane me too. Elite has been my favorite space game from start I don't wanna see it fall
I might actually pick this game up again
System Colonization will likely be an immense task which will take thousands of resources to even do, or an immense amount of credits to upkeep the process which could take months of real time to do. I'm for it though, it's a unique take that's 'base-building adjacent' in some ways, and I think that's pretty cool in all honesty.
Also that cobra Mk 5 looks AMAZING and I will be buying it with money when it comes out.
I love the idea. Im worried it'll just turn into a mix of powerplay and "deliver x of y, here"
Oh you mean what StarCitizen people keep waiting for from that game? Lol
The potential of this game knows no real bounds...I cant wait
I really hope they work and improve on missions, most of them are just soo boring and have no depth.
Oh, I hope it's possible to make self-sufficient systems and/or lets systems you own (in range of jump drives) trade with each others. And as an eve player ofc I will look keenly into the possibility to make some money with planetary interactions like mines farms and so on to fuel the production chain.
Wait... It means that we can build Bases On planets???
And build starports too.
You will be El Presidente of your own system
no
@@cmdrls212 They said you can place settlements and choose the economy type
This is really making me want to get back in the game ! If they use this to make player run economy that would be awesome.
Frontier will add anything, including player owned stations, but won't add ship interiors
I've gone back to Frontier: Elite 2. Happy times.
I think it will be the top yier powerplay reward. You'll unlock the colonization ship and get the privilege to colonize in the name of Mahon, Duvall, or whoever you pledged to.
That's a good idea, but from what they said, you colonise the system first and if players want they can push the powers to come there, so the colonisation is probably not originated from powers. Better : you colonise it in your own name ! (if I got it right)
i hope that we get to place structures and manage the system, but i have a feeling it'll be dump tons of resources into something just to keep your name above the door
I could not care less.
I just wanted a Freelancer like space sim - a single-player game with normal save-load system; focused on spaceflight, trading, combat, adventure etc; mixing narrative elements with a sandbox universe populated with colorful NPCs, companions, factions, guilds, with a plethora of ships and equipment distributed across different regions and factions; land on planet and space stations, speak to NPCs, get jobs etc.
We have added 100+ space sims in the past decade or so. Not a single one has even tried to do even 50% of what Freelancer did 20+ years ago.
rebel galaxy if you like more arcady x4 for sim?
@@hibbidyjibbidyy I had high hopes for Rebel Galaxy (Outlaw), but the game world is very barebones in terms of factions, locations, ships etc. But yeah, you are right that RGO is the closest one to Freelancer, however distantly. Impressive how much they achieved with a two-person dev team.
If the developers had not abandoned their DLC and modding tool plans, it might have gotten there.
This is some great and long awaited news
Eve: Dangerous
God i hope
Finally, colonization!
Can i please walk in my ship first, like come on......
HOLY MOLY finaly finaly this will be elite experince
This is what selling ships gets you. Good to see ED being developed again.
Very very promising... and with the new ships... exciting!!
Don't underestimate Frontier's ability to make any game mechanic an excruciating, soulless grind.
Dang, this is kind of an exciting turn! I hope this is the start of a trend, could maybe finally turn things around and get some life into the game!
I also wonder if they plan on adding terraforming?
Sure. Just like they planned ship interiors, offline play and Linux support.
The main thing that would bring me back would be the old Imperial Courier from the Frontier games. There was an awesome modern interpretation done by a fan, looked like a bird of prey styled warship to match my imagination. So far we've got a sports car with the name and a luxury yacht with the size and rough engine layout. Neither evoke my nostalgia for the old ship.
Personally, this new ship being another Cobra is,... sad. I'd much prefer brand new designs instead of rebuilt "variants". Still gonna buy it, but still. :(
Colonization sounds like there's a lot of potential in it. I hope they nail it and do tons with it. Hopefully we can get some new community goals and gameplay opportunities to go along with it.
🤞
2024 and we are still blueballed by the Pantherclipper :(
Its a totally new design lol
@@___Snake___ Based on? Come on,... you can do it. That's right, based on the Cobra. It's a rebuilt variant, not a wholly brand new design.
@valaryc nah, it's pretty obvious it's a development and advanment of a Cobra but every thing has been changed and if you stick a Mk3 and Mk5 side by side they are totally different, but you have eyes and can see that for yourself but you probably wanted something different like a Panther Clipper, which is fine, but I like a new imagened Cobra that will be a proper ship like it should be a the poster ship of the game unlike the Mk3
@@___Snake___ Don't make assumptions on my behalf, thanks. I said what I said and it still stands exactly as it was written. If you're looking to argue, go somewhere else with it. Goodbye. I will not engage further.
Normally I would jump but... I read colonization and immediately think of a most simple ways they will do this.