Best Bugout / Tactical /SHTF Vehicles
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2020
- What are the best vehicles for high threat situations? Join us in analyzing a few of the details anyone should look for when selecting a vehicle for tactical mobility purposes, whether CONUS or overseas.
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So... A four door motorcycle with a v6 and auto transmission... In all seriousness lots of good info that most people don't think of.
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Sounds like America's favorite SUV: the 4runner.
Consider fuel choice for the situation as well. When I was operating a diesel ambulance in Texas following Hurricane Rita it was easy for us to get fuel but the majority of gas pumps were sold out or had a line a mile long. We pulled right up to diesel pumps. In a cold climate, you could acquire and use home heating oil in older diesel engines.
The problem with Diesels is not alot of people can work on them, even the general maintaince is different than a gasoline engine.
I would love to see you guys do a video on how to tactically drive. For example, techniques or things to look for when evasive driving, I.E. someone chasing you, or you running away from some disaster happening.
I believe they have, but not on their channel. It was on Wired or something
They did one on wired and they have videos on steering techniques for tactical driving
@@johnpulawski35 Got a link by chance?
They did a video on being chased a while back
This is a rally school, not a counter-terrorism task force. They have no knowledge or experience about those situations.
Gona pick a VW Kombi for this. She break all the rules listed so nobody going to expect she's a bug out car
It'll break alright...
This was FANTASTIC!!! I would definitely like a follow-up to this. It amazes me how much information you pack into every video, Wyatt. Positively GREAT, solid, real-world, no BS advice we should all heed in these uncertain times. Huge thanks to Team O'Neill and Wyatt for sharing this info.
"No BS" - You hit the nail on the head.
A manual transmission is good in case your starter goes out, you can always bumpstart if need be
I know! I'm listening to this guy and I'm like what are you talking about? Never go with an automatic transmission for a bug out vehicle. I've gotten stranded so many times because of an automatic add a dead battery, and the fact that I've had two Transmissions that were automatic failed because the torque converters blew up. manuel transmission has less parts. It's usually stronger and unless you're doing burnouts at 3:00 in the morning you don't need to worry about anything exploding unlike an automatic. I've gotten stranded about a half a dozen times in cars that were automatic and it was always the transmission or the starter going out or the battery going dead.... no thank you
Using the vehicle as your multi-tool makes it more likely that you'll kill your battery. The need for bump starting is a possibility. That said, a jump box is a good idea too. Lots of benefits to a manual transmission.
Would love to see like a top 5 (or 10) list of vehicles on this topic. Maybe a panel discussion on the decision spiral to down-select to a smaller list. Also some basic evasive driving techniques for avoiding getting blocked it, evading car-jacking etc.
basically a sleeper.
Easy access to fuel pump, water pump, starter without the use of a lift or car jack. If there's no access hatch cut one using an angle grinder or power chisel. Water pump needs to be serpentine belt driven for quicker work. Examples: 96-98 and some 99 Sierras and Silverados, Toyota Corolla Camry, Subaru's. Just look at UA-cam tutorials before you buy. Remember: water pump, fuel pump, starter.
Thank you. That was awesome! Gray Man is the way to go... blend in as much as possible and make your mods as stealthy as possible.
I've actually thought a lot about this. If you are in the US - Toyota SUVs are honestly probably one of the best ways to go. Esp if you can armor it from the inside.
Toyota Sequoia
1st gen '97-'01 Honda CR-V with manual and AWD. Cheap, reliable, fuel efficient, surprisingly capable for softroading, and easy-moderate offroading.
Minivans are actually great for the ability to house huey style door gunners if the blend in approach fails!
Lol. Dude. You got me rollin. Lol. But true.
Cargo vans too. Just make it look like crap and people would leave you alone if that's what your scenario makes you worry about. The benefit is you can get a cargo van with 4x4. More robust vehicle.
I love this topic. Please keep it coming
*So the Toyota 4Runner or Land Cruiser. Checks everyone's boxes - especially Scotty's!*
no thanks. atrocious, slow, and bad fuel economy from an outdated 4.0.
@@wantsanewvehicle all I heard is: “no thanks, I’m dumb, I like to break down and call AAA for towing, and I have no idea how hydrogen fuel cells work...”
lol there’s a reason why military’s around the world choose Toyota...and when the vehicle is too big for Toyota’s to make...they base their designs off of Toyota. Fun fact, US and Russia military have developed Tactical Toyota Hilux/Tacoma counterparts. Enjoy charging your formula e cars with diesel/gasoline power generators.....
Add 4wd Toyota Seqouia to the list.
@@jerad4336 Yes you can!!! Really any Toyota with a little bit of ground clearance and 4wd (Tundra and FC Cruiser as well) would be a decent choice in a bug out situation!
Society going down? My first choice would still be the Landcruiser...but then again...you get 2 used HiLux/Tacomas/4Runners/Tundra/Sequoia for the price of 1 new Landcruiser....and I'm single. So maybe it depends on your situation what would be best in full bugout!
He tries not to name a specific car while describing exactly the car just behind him
@Hello Newman ikr
Yup.
Bright red manual Subaru Impreza with a noticable sound... Did you watch the same video everyone else did 😂
@@InitialDIYmods Here in Russia, I know many people who are getting stuck and frightened when they see automatic but everybody knows how to drive manual, because it is cheaper and more wide-spread (now it's maybe changing, as in 2020, but, let's' say, 5 years ago it was definitely true). There are no problems with manual, you don't think of it, and you don't use parking brakes because it gets icy in the winter but leave the car in the first gear, it's common.
Not the quietest car out there, but yeah
Great content. I would like to see more on similar topics!
Motorcycle is also very good tactical vehicle. Imagine the streets full of stopped cars blocking every road ahead.
Not the content I expected from you guys but this is the best video I've seen on this topic! I was a little disappointed to hear the automatic transmission bit😔 but it makes sense. I'm hopefully buying a 2nd gen CR-V this week to build into a camping/off-road vehicle that should also serve well as a "tactical" car. Not a new vehicle by any means, but it's the same K-series engine as my racecar so I know how to take it down to the pistons and know it's extremely reliable. A vehicle you know how to maintain is better than a new one you with loads of electronics and complex parts!
I really like the vids where you talk about the tactical side of things.
The best video on the subject I have seen, excellent job!
VERY good stuff, a few thoughts though....
1) "Grey"... In the kind of scenarios the average person in the US might face "Grey" isn't that important. Sure it's better to be "grey", but to really be grey one must give up a lot of abilities. Things like great tires, sturdy capable bumper, winches, fuel cans, lights, large size etc. These are things that can't really be hidden and must be sacrificed to really be grey. Secondly there can be a big advantage to an intimidation factor, someone out for any decent vehicle is much more likely to attack a "grey" vehicle then a vehicle that looks prepped to defend.
---- However I am a big advocate of being "grey" in both a daily driver and any scenario with an occupying force. The later would include police lock downs, curfews, quarantines, etc.
2) Automatic Transmission... All great stuff, only want to add one of the bigger advantages to an automatic that wasn't mentioned. You can drive an automatic injured. A manual needs all 4 limbs working, an auto only one of each. A twisted ankle, broken finger, strained back, tourniquet on a leg, etc. are all things to be ready for. And things that would prevent effective driving of a manual.
3) Size... Situation dependent but in most scenarios large enough is important. The vehicle likely needs to be large enough to accomplish 3 things.
- A) Carry enough, it needs enough space inside to carry everyone important to you and enough gear. Guns, food, water, clothing, tools, fuel, etc.
- B) Large enough to sleep in comfortably enough, we need sleep and places to safely sleep could be very hard to come by. A vehicle can provide both some security and good shelter.
- C) Large enough to shove, no Subaru is going to push a Suburban. Stalled or abandoned vehicles are likely to be in the way, road blocks are possible, being able to push a concrete divider out of the way, avoiding being shoved of the road by another vehicle, etc.
4) A four door exception... If you don't need more then two seats then a 2 door SUV like a Bronco can be very practical. In something like a Bronco you can trade 4 doors for a larger flatter cargo area. One large enough to do things like lay down on to sleep.
5) Diesel... Diesel engines can provide a large advantage in fuel issues. Yeah diesels generally have an advantage in MPG but that's less of a thing compared to the next two...
-A) Diesels are much more efficient at idle then gas. If you need to spend a lot of time stopped, for example sleeping, but need the heater, lights on, etc. so you have to idle the engine a diesel is going to use much less fuel.
-B) Diesel is much easier to come by(steal) then gas.
Good post.
My SHTF vehicle is my unmodified Dodge Ram 2500.
5.9 diesel reliability - no limp mode
Megacab - space for sleeping/ 6+ passengers
Covered locked bed - more sleeping/storage
4x4.
Fuel tank good for 600+ miles before switching tanks. Good pusher, puller etc.
Unmodified is important because parts are everywhere. Guys with the huge lifted, tuned trucks....where do you find parts? Every stealership put there has stock parts.
Coincidentally it's also grey. Lol
Love this video!!
Never knew you done tactical training!! Enjoyed this one, cant wait to see more tactical driving styles hint hint aha
Do a UA-cam search "Wired team O'Neil". That is how I know them, and got on this channel. Now I am into rally driving.
@@JR-gp2zk Crazy, good call, thanks!!
I’ve always thought a 12v Cummins would be ideal. I guess it’s not too bad of a choice after watching this vid
this is the most rational logical video i've watched on this subject..
Great stuff Wyatt
These guys make great videos. Even for car enthusiasts who think they have seen every car perspective on youtube
Great video and COMMON SENSE ATTITUDE for a change 👍🏻🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I was thinking you would say, " get a blobeye subie" cuz I have a blobeye subie in rally blue! hahahaha I think the ability to jump curbs is also important tho.
it can jump curbs, once
Crosstrek
Wow good advice. So many UA-cam videos have no clue. Never stand out.
Great video! Very timely as life in Seattle is crazy with chaz. Please do a video with ridgeline. Thanks!
This was Awesome!
Excellent information
I was literally just wondering today if you were going to put a video like this out!
These are the only type of vehicles I try to buy in my family. Our checklist also includes a roof rack and a 5 door passenger/cargo compartment, and a tow hitch to be affect a recovery point if needed.
Oh, and no CVT’s can’t push a dumpster out of the way with a slippey drive belt.
Love this lets see more!
Random comment. I think it would be cool to see a video of you guys just going full out on your track there or close and then talking about your maneuvers after the stage. With the foot cam and onboard. Kinda just bringing all your practices into one. Love the videos!
Thank you I Really enjoyed it
Great information. Often in a SHTF situations being low key but effective is the best option.
excellent video. Thank you
Great info thank you brother.
Good video!! Spot on. Afghanistan we used Toyota’s. Definitely sound signature is overlooked by many.
Just found your vids bro...awesome!
Solid advise here!
There are a ton of vehicles that fit the criteria like my Lexus GX 470.
very informative thenks a lot
My silver 2012 base model pilot... super utilitarian. Awd. Low key. Perfect... then the built up focus st for most other days😎
I was waiting for someone to mention a Honda pilot or ridgeline. I used to have a ridgeline and it was a very capable 4x4 in mud and snow.
Now that the next gen Subaru Crosstrek is getting an engine upgrade I'd say it's pretty ideal. Crazy common and lots of subtle mods available.
My SJ forester xt would be good. Lots of ground clearance, decent power and blends in with the billion other NA fozzies.
Seems like Subaru has been making great all around vehicles forever now! I remember seeing the Brat model like a little elCamino and some other ones too, but they were all, all wheel/4 wheel drive which is super important at least for me.
I've been running a number of different ZJ Grand Cherokee's, Esp the select Trac models, which are pretty good for the budget minded People.
during the snow storm here in texas i had to pick up my gf (now wife) from her house bc she had no water and no gas. basically she was stranded in her own home. everyone was SOL bc they had two wheel drive vehicles (including trucks). their tires were spinning and sliding attempting to get up one of the hills however me (tacoma 4wd single cab) and subaru forester easily drove past all of them. 4wd or all wheel drive is a must! and no you don't necessarily NEED big ol' mud/monster tires to do that. the subaru just had normal street tires
Really good reality check 👍
Awesome video again, great info. Thank you Wyatt. I couldn't find you on Patreon?
I'm thinking any auctioned forest service truck.
So true
but they auction them when they stop being reliable...things do get beat on hard
Joe Sponsler nah, a lot of government agencies sell off their cars when they hit a certain mileage, and that mileage is surprisingly low
well... my car fits every category, but the automatic transmission :)
I think it's not a problem. Overcomplicated in the video. Here in Russia everybody knows how to drive manual
@@AndreyPutilov In Italy automatic transmission is becoming a thing just now, and only for those who can afford it...
Furthermore manual transmission is more fun, and gives more control to the driver, I think.
Lifted vehicles with loud exhausts smoke stacks and light bars sounds like every truck in my town 🤣 great video
Sweet! Love the vid and advice man. Really solid points. So then my awd 2015 charger would be a decent option by this criteria. It's a retired police cruiser and chargers are a dime a dozen here in Seattle right now. Though I might want to do a 2" lift on it for additional ground clearance and because I'm 6' 2" and it's pretty uncomfortable to get into vs an suv or truck, especially since my back injury.
I guess older gen diesel hilux would be good
You need to see what Whistlin Diesel put his hilux through. But as with most of his videos, do not become attached to his.
I'm no expert but i feel like anyone can spot one. This was the best advice i've ever heard or read. Reassuring to hear those flashy instagram vehicles will be the 1st to go... because i don't have one :(
So, in Europe - a modern, gray, Audi (R)S Avant.
Coincidentally, a car criminals love and gets stolen relatively often.
The Land Cruiser is probably a good vehicle. It's bland and can go anywhere, but those are hard to find if you're looking for a vehicle on foot. Definitely going with a Subaru for the main vehicle.
16:45 I can hear Suzuki Jimny owners crying
Also, If you are injured, you're gonna want an automatic. You need both hands and both feet to drive a manual effectively. Lol. I've hurt myself snowboarding and my drive home was terrible with my manual transmission. Lol
LoL, yep Same here except I was driving a motorcycle. Once the pain really kicked in(hit the pavement at 55mph and ground 8 of my fingertips and my right palm) I could barely turn the key switch on my aunt's car I borrowed for the next few days..
What are your views on box trucks? International 4300s are everywhere, most are automatics, they attract little attention and can be started very easily without the key. They are also tough and can drive over worse terrain than most cars, and will survive serious collisions. The fuel range is excellent when unloaded as well, and being seated high up gives you a good view of conditions ahead.
I would pic the mk7 golf tdi in a grey, it's perfect imo aside from ground clearance
Restard yes go ahead and choose a new modern unreliable pos gdi injection vw pos trash
Silverado with the 3.0L Duramax is a great option. 660 miles range, Z71 off-road, torque of a 6.2 gas and 4 door. I know we need DEF fluid. Doesn't stand out in a crowd.
J turn in an auto will make you stall, if not put in neutral briefly. Nice video 👍🏼
So just found this channel, and I'm no stranger to fast stuff (boats cars motorcycle etc), but I've never heard of a J turn. Can you please fill me in on this?
And you will go a couple miles before hitting gridlock lock as everybody else trying to get away too..
Valid point with manual trans and being hands free, but if you have a manual transmission vehicle with a dead battery, you can pop the clutch to start your vehicle. Done this a few times...
I’ve always thought something easy to repair, tough etc. I like the old idi diesels from the 80’s and 90’s. Reliable and easy to repair
The only thing I never thought about is being low key.
But I would advice to go for the bigger vehicles. In the US, a Ford F150 will give you a very nice advantage in case of collision, It can come with 4x4, it has a nice ammount of ground clearance, they are automatic, they have a decent range (can be upgraded with a bigger fuel tank), they are so popular you can find pieces on every other corner to fix it. And they are very commonly seen with heavy duty steel bumpers. You might even go for an older iteration of that F150 that has been beaten up due to work change the suspension for the raptor suspension and be unnoticed anyway.
Here in Mexico, you don't wanna have a big vehicle nor a nice lifted offroad rig. You dont wanna be loud (not in looks neither in sound). And if you wanna blend in, you want to get a subcompact to compact sedan or Hatchback from VW or Nissan (Jetta, Golf, Virtus, Vento, Versa, Sentra, Polo) or maybe a Mazda 3, cx30 or CX 5.
Suburban, Tahoe, Durango, big pickups, mid size pickups... those are considered vehicles for the wealthy people, they are bery sourced by cartels and they are very noticeable. Maybe a 10-12 year old chevy full size truck/SUV goes more unnoticed. They are more common in gold/sand and silver colours and they might be seen with a nice "family" sticker in the back window.
I'm going for the 2500 suburban with a very small lift (1.5 - 2 inches), low key capable tires with OEM wheels, upgraded lights (in the OEM housings or similar looking to the faded ones it will have by this time.
And for the bumpers, I might simply reinforce them from the inside with steel plates cuz one with a Heavy dutty bumper would be the only one in the whole city or even the whole region, so everybody would know it is me.
This is an awesome aspect of SHTF vehicle scenarios, thank you for sharing, all really good ideas.
I find a lot of people think the blingy stuff like lifting your vehicle and putting big tires on it is the solution when really staying stock is the easiest way.
10/10 video, you raised some interesting points I had not considered. If I am looking to leave a dense city, is a better strategy to live off the vehicle, or stay in hotels at smaller towns?
Because it's hard to have "livability" out of a small vehicle you can maneuver in tight spaces.
I say live IN the vehicle, there's no way to rely on the ability to get a hotel room. It's also a security issue.
Well, my MTB is really silent and narrower than a car. It's something 😊
Automatic transmissions in military vehicles; they are also easier to swap out or repair.
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Its not Easyer to swap out or repair an auto
Manuals are much simpler to deal with
It's just yanks dont get much exposure to manuals
So how do you bump start your vehicle if it's a automatic transmission? What if the battery dies? How you going to start your vehicle? What if you overheat the torque converter and it explodes? I've had that happen to me twice. No thanks. I would absolutely never ever choose a vehicle with an automatic transmission for a survival vehicle. Too many weak points in liabilities, and when we're talking about survival we do not have that kind of luxury. They also use more gas
Honestly. If we are in a shtf situation. I’m guessing it doesn’t matter what you look like, everyone will be a target for resources. Like you said, as long as you can fix everything you have, that’s good enough to get you going, so it doesn’t matter what it looks like. Just be able to defend it by any means.
Can you guys do a video on the bare minimum you’d need to do to a car to run a stage rally event? I.E. suspension, wheels, tires, other misc. stuff that is necessary to just go out and do an event for fun
Impresa with Forester suspension and a extra fuel tank maybe?
Nicolas Andrés Parra Fiedler Imprezas are slow as shit
-an Impreza owner
2006 Forester XT. AWD station wagon that does 0-100km in 5.5secs stock.
@@jass2085 I know but I like them, awd system is nice and are kind of reliable
As long as you have a trailer specifically to carry a few hundred spare head gaskets...
So a Forrester
Wyatt, I still feel like there might be a second wave to COVID and the States might have more civil unrest. I'd love to see some vids featuring the guys from Ridgeline.
Here I was thinking the Conquest Evade or Knight XV (basically luxury versions of the Gurka, F&F 5 has that) would be awesome, until he started talking. :) It can get up kerbs, is an auto, has AWD/4WD and 4 doors and good for range (definitely due to a huge tank and not the sub 7 mpg (US)), but it's over 8 foot wide and high and over 20 foot long making the Hummer look small and besides the size it will still never be mistaken for a Civic with all its heavily armoured bodywork.
Number 1 I agree with number 2 however most newer modern vehicles will probably be dead in the water off the top but that also depends on what happens
I'm apreciating my auto forester now haha.
I honestly feel like the GMC Acadia is the best option. 3rd row. Good ground clearance, v6, front or all wheel drive. It gives you a lot of room for passengers or luggage. Only reason I don’t say a Tahoe or Yukon is fuel mileage.
Durango would as good maybe better.
yes great video , my mag uses ford explorers and other SUV they have such low profiles etc..
I keep watching the video and the best vehicles that come to mind are rav4 or Tacoma
A manual because only 15% of Americans can drive it so anti-theft.
So only 15% of your team can drive it?
Can you please do a video comparing performance tires, to performance offroad tires, to rally tires.
Many have done standared street tires to rally tires. But no one has focused performance tire to rally tire.
For example. I am currently building a ARA rally truck. Meaning I have the option to run performance truck tires.
So my lifted pink mirage with a roof rack is the wrong move?
Well. My first thought was G-Wagen 6x6. And it was completely destroyed after first 2,5 minutes)
This varies depending on what your bug out plan is tho. If you are aiming to get to an off grid location the "survival vehicle" is needed. I do agree with the ladders and such. But lights and sleeping needs not so much
Chevy Suburban. Enough said.
3rd gen subaru outback has good range, good for soft roads, awesome hatch back and nobody looks at it twice.
The flip side to having a "sleeper" looking vehicle is that you make yourself a target as well. Depending on the situation, cartels\gangs etc will often avoid a high profile rig because they figure they are prepped in more ways than 1, so the average looking vehicle can appear as an easy target. If it's a true concern, might need to consider bugging in rather than out.
Agree on that 100%
2016 Kia Sportage: The perfect vehicle for Mad Max conditions.
Lexus GX. A Landcrusier in disguise as a mall-crawler that most folks wouldn't look twice at.
precisely. what i rock. gx 470 ie Landcruiser 120 series Prado. but w v8 and nicer amenities.
@@ttjoseph1 until u sw to low range and dispense with their vertical orientation and protests (joke haha)
@@ttjoseph1 at least in my neighborhood it's not a wealthy person vehicle at all. Especially an older one. This is very region specific so ymmv of course
I have one, they are cheaper than a 4runner. If you replace the lexus badge with a Toyota one, it looks like a big Rav 4
Put one of the jump seats down and you have a good seat to see what's behind you
Hey, could you do a J-turn in one of Tesla cars? Would love to see it.
Are you teaching Mr. Mike Glover? he just posted a video about building a rally Porsche.
Is everything okay? It's been a while since you folks have uploaded anything
I'd probably go for a second gen volvo XC70. Some ground clearance, AWD, auto, quiet, and reliable
I did just that. Aaaaand the wonderful alternator design failed. Now I got a crapload of work in front of me because the car is immobile. As much as I love it for comfort - I wouldn't pick it for a survival situation.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. A diesel v70 or something like that. Or maybe a newer plugin hybrid volvo
@@PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAful I'd rather die than drive a hybrid
@@Flyingdutchy33 hahaha, but is a hybrid with a turbo and a supercharger does that make it better?
@@PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAful Not really, the 600kg battery is the dealbreaker for me. I'd rather carry 600kg of useful items or have the better handling and terrain capability if I chose to not drag around aforementioned 600kg... But to each their own.
I actually wrote down what I wanted from a car in these types of situations but I ended up building a rebel technical truck (based on a Porsche Carrera GT for some reason). So that's mine. A Porsche Carrera GT with a DSHk machine gun on top. It looks cool but I'll probably not survive anything
A bit old, but an '06 beige ish gold Nissan Murano pretty decent? 4 doors, auto, 350-400 mi range (up to 500 on the hwy but I wouldn't trust that), a bit off the ground for curbs, and good but not insane storage.
Yeah, '01 Nissan Xterra at the moment, though I only got it cause it was super cheap and in really nice condition. I kinda hate it but I'm hoping to find something else that's 4wheel/all wheel and capable, reliable and gets decent milage.