Replacing a Weatherproof Outlet
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- I’ve been wanting to replace an older outlet and weatherproof outlet cover for some time now, so why not make a video about it? I installed a weather resistant outlet (which are required for outdoor installations) and a new weatherproof cover to go with it. I’m glad I got the old out and the new in. Thanks for watching!
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Another electrical install done the RIGHT way. Thank you for not back stabbing. It's annoying how many people take the easy way out and just shove the wire into that connector and call it a day.
I appreciate hearing that! Thank you! Yeah, it’s crazy how manufacturers don’t seem to improve them, and some electricians don’t seem to know or care.
@@ExitSign250 I had to renovate a part of my house which involved a replacement of some outlets and switches. All of which were backstabbed and I was so annoyed that I just went out and bought new fixtures I didn't even bother trying to remove the wire. It wasn't until I was putting everything back that I realized that the electrician that was working on everything used 2 different sized plates. Some places had the larger covers while the rest were smaller. I guess he just put whatever he felt like it.
Interesting. I know some just buy whatever is available. I like to keep things consistent. I’m glad you replaced the old backstabbed devices though.
Eww backstab wiring! Good thing it's being replaced and wired properly anyway. Nice work! 😎
It’s so satisfying when you replace all the outlets
You are smart at doing electrical work
I love electrical, I have always loved working with it. I'm happy you did not use the quick connect... they suck and aways are a bad idea.
Great video! I would suggest not using the silicone caulking though. It makes it a pain to replace the weather proof box, also moisture could become trapped and build up behind the caulking if you don't get a perfect seal. That is why the gasket is porous.
Thank you very much! I have been told by other experienced people, as well as found out myself, that overtime these gaskets will deteriorate and begin to allow water/moisture through. I use the silicone caulking to provide a more durable seal. Plus sometimes mounting surfaces aren’t completely level, such as in the case of brick. And the gasket may not be able to flex enough to seal the box. Again hence the silicone use also.
Thanks for very detailed steps. Best video I’ve seen so far.
I had old metal outside cover over the receptacle, wired into GFI line. My Wifi power is also plugged into that GFI line in the garage, so when it rained it tripped the line and out goes the wifi! I needed to install the weather resistant receptacle and the cover as well...
Great video. I personally like to use a circuit breaker locator when I do installations. Good tip on the silicon and using the screw connections. I hate those old electrical plates as well, too many of them fail.
I have a circuit breaker finder, and I use it a while ago to rename each breaker, so I knew what breaker was the right one. Yeah, those plates are too common and aren’t the best. I like the Hubbell one, and similar models. A lot heavier duty.
Thanks for the how to! I never done before. New home 5 yrs and 2 exterior outlets gave out. 😮
Wow...great job on this instructional....I am going to do that today...I have both outdoor outlets that have died for 2 years now, will be nice to have Christmas lights again!
Awesome video mate!
Nice install! I was thinking of doing the same thing with the outlets outside of my house
Nice video I’m glad you didn’t use backstab
Love that Hubbell cover. Nice install!
Do you not need to run a ground wire from the outlet to the ground screw in the box?
These videos are oddly satisfying to watch..
I live in a 7 year old house which has a gfi outlet in my lower level patio level.It has a plastic cover kind of like the one in your video although a little larger...still only contains one outlet under the cover. I recently had some work done on the patio and when the contractor had left i found that they had pulled the cover pretty much off of the outside wall of the house. Im not that handy but i discovered that when the original install was done the electrician only connnected the outlet to the blue outlet box. The outlet cover was not screwed in or connected to anything other than by a thick line of silicone caulk! Anyway i proceeded to find out that the electric outlet top and bottom screws do NOT line up with the holes you screw them into in the blue outlet wall box.It looks like the GFI outlet is actually too large for the blue box which is why they dont line up. I want to not only line them up but also screw the outlet in place while also screwing the outlet cover base plate into the outlet box so that they cant be pulled out like last time. My question is whether or not these actual outlets of the type i need come in different sizes because this outlet definitely doesnt line up with the wall blue box. I hate to call an electrician on something as simple as this but Im not sure what to do at this point . I can replace both the outlet and/or the outlet cover if i have to but i cant replace the blue outlet box. Appreciate any helpful advice you can offer. I did manage to use a saber saw to enlarge the opening in my hardiplank which was also contributing to my inability to fit the oulet into the wall and connect it to the box. Thanks for any help you can provide. Very high quality video.
Thank you! I’ll try my best to help you out. All outlets and switches as well as electrical boxes are a standard size. And in regards to the box’s hole spacing, that is also standard. Meaning they only come in one size. The only thing I can think of is the blue box is being pressed upon by something which is making it flex and not being the correct size/shape. The blue boxes are made of plastic which is why they can be deformed easily. Typically outdoor outlets/switches/fixtures have metal boxes installed when the device is flush. Metal boxes are much more heavy duty compared to the plastic box. If this is the case that the blue plastic box is deformed, I’d suggest (if you feel comfortable) to try and see what is causing it to be the way it is. It may be a bit difficult since it is flush mounted. Hope this helps and I can try to assist more if needed.
@@ExitSign250 Thanks for your help. I finally juryrigged it and got it to fit adequately by reinstalling the outlet cover properly with 4 screws into the hardiplank like it should have been when the house was built. All i need now is to get some silicone caulk for around the outlet cover and ill be all set. Thanks again.
Thank you very informative... Living in à hoa and they won't cover it I have to do it myself?? Thanks for the info again.
your video made it easy to follow and I was able to do it myself! Thank you so much!
How come the ground doesn’t have isolation cover like the neutral and hot?
For NM-B cable it’s not required for the ground to have insulation as it normally doesn’t not carry current.
What job are you going to get when your an older is it electrician, fire and security company or engineer?
I appreciate the question. I want to try and be both an electrician and fire technician if I can. I have an equal interest in both, and have had an interest in both for a long time. I wouldn’t be interested in being an engineer, although I had thought about it for a while. Again, thanks for your question!
Nice job. Well done.
My friend, you did an excellent job! Just a friendly tip. It’s always good practice to ground the box. I always wire nut pigtails. The ground ties to the pigtail to the box and the second goes to the receptacle. I love how you used the silicon on the weatherproof cover! Also, how many double (Tandem) breakers do you have in your panel?
Thank you! Actually, I originally was going to ground the box as I noticed that too. However, during the recording process, I used a continuity tester to show how the box is not bonded to ground and I received a dead short to ground. I’m not sure if the box is grounded on the opposite side of the wall, or what. But I cut that section out of the video and moved on with the replacement. Also to answer your question about the double breakers, there are 9 in my panel.
ExitSign250 that’s a problem
How so?
ExitSign250 getting a dead short
The metal box is shorted or connected to ground. Not sure how, but it is. I don’t see that as a problem.
Thanks for sharing! Will be doing this tomorrow!
This was a really good video. Thank you so much
Thanks for the detailed install
Thank you for making this video! It was very helpful! 😊
If you crimp the wire around the screw the next guy will have to umcrimp it?? The outlet is required to be GFCI??
If you watched the video fully, you would’ve heard this outlet is protected by an upstream GFCI. And yes I have changed my practice from crimping the wires around the terminal screws. While not unsafe it can be annoying for the next person.
Why not get a dark brown outlet to go with the brick? 🧱
That would be neat, but I like the contrast between the outlet and brick. Plus the other outlets in this location are white so I would have to change them to brown so they all match.
Very thorough job
Very detail instructions thank you
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing!
Great video 😀👍👍
Very informative!
What’s the reason why I don’t have power on the weatherproof outlet? But the breaker isn’t tripped?? Any ideas ?
Is it just one outlet, or many? Perhaps a GFCI outlet is tripped. If so, try resetting it. If it trips again there may be a ground fault problem.
I was successful thanks to your video, thanks!
Great install!
What is the depth inside? (White socket surface to clear plastic cover inner surface distance?) Thanks.
It is around 2 1/2 inches. They also make an “extra deep” model which is around 4 1/2 inches in depth. This inside depth may vary between manufacturers.
I have one of those outlets as well. I had to do the same thing so I know how to do it.
awesome work dude
Exit sign 250 I forget if I asked. When will their be a video on the security system? Nice video!
I plan to have a video of my house’s security system soon, and I also have a demo system I’m working on.
Thanks that was crystal clear.
Nice video
Thank you doing this tomorrow
At 6:20 My House Has Those Outlet Covers
Great video. Thank you
So I assume it’s wired to a GFCI in a dry location?
Correct. As stated in the video, this outlet is being protected by a GFCI upstream. In my case, the GFCI is installed in the garage. Garages require GFCI protection as well.
Very very very great explanation.
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Thank you!
What was that gel water proof thing?
That is silicon. It is used to seal out water from surfaces.
Good job. Thank you.
If you have to replace the outlet do you have to replace the box as well?
No. Unless the box is in a broken or unusable condition. For example, a cracked or bent box. Or severely rusted. In most cases a flush box in brick is difficult or impossible to replace.
@@ExitSign250 thanks, yes I bet those in brick would be extremely hard to replace.
Damn good tutorial
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@@ExitSign250 thanks.
Nice Install! Also, what year was your house built?
Thanks! The house was built in 1999, so weather resistant outlets weren’t a thing.
Where did you get the outlet tester at?
You can find those at any hardware store or online. They come in a standard tester, or one with a GFCI tester as well.
Nice! I’m thinking of installing one on my front porch because we have a cheap cover that exposes everything inside. It’s a weatherproof gfci under a covered area but still. we have a ten gauge extension cord running to some pool pumps on the side of our house. Is it big enough to fit a ten gauge cord? And no it’s not a flat plug.
Thanks! I really love these in-use weatherproof covers. Most conventional outdoor covers are fully weatherproof unless being used, while the in-use cover remains weatherproof even with things plugged in. Also about your question, it really just depends. 10 gauge is thick for an extension cord. Most cords are 16 gauge. You’d need to find the current draw of the pumps, (amps or watts) then determine if the cord is the correct spec.
@@ExitSign250 ok what I meant was if it would fit under the cover. It works fine for the pumps I just wanted to know if the cord would fit under the cover or if I need to get a deeper cover. Thanks for replying!
Ah I see. I misunderstood you, sorry! The 10 gauge cord should fit just fine in the in-use cover. But if not, the extra deep in-use cover would be your best bet.
@@ExitSign250 ok thanks so much for answering my question I probably will just go with the extra deep cover to be safe. Thanks again!
Sure thing! Good luck on it!
can that also be controlled with a light switch
That is possible if it was wired that way.
How did you know that this is a GFCI protected outlet? Where is the reset?
This particular outlet is not a GFCI, however this outlet was wired to another GFCI located elsewhere. Meaning that this outlet has GFCI protection from the actual GFCI outlet installed in another location.
@@ExitSign250 thx
Good video.
So what happens if you need to replace the receptacle after you've done all of this?
Why would I need to replace it? Everything with it is fine. This should last 15+ years. And if the time comes that it must be replaced, it is easy and possible.
@@ExitSign250 I'm glad that you responded lol. I actually need to do the inverse of your setup. My outside receptacle is tripping my garage GFCI because rain water got behind the water box (the original gasket was broken). I can literally see water seeping from the TR slots. I don't have a hair dryer to dry the moisture, so I wanted to replace the old receptacle with a new one but it looks like I'm forced to break the new silicone seal that I just applied to the weather box. Will the cover/face plate pop out or do I need to remove the entire box? Thoughts?
Of course! I try to respond to most comments that I can. Unfortunately you must break the silicon seal to remove the weatherproof cover and access the inside of the outlet and box. I’d suggest to just replace everything since you have to remove it anyway, especially if water was inside the receptacle.
@@ExitSign250 actually I just finished replacing the receptacle because it was full of water...also had to break the seal which wasn't that bad because I applied it yesterday evening. Thanks for upper help
No problem, I’m happy I could assist in a small way. Hopefully this new setup should last you much longer.
Nice video!
I don’t like to use the back stab either
Very entertaining 👏👏
Can you have a gfci outlet outdoors?
Yes, as long as it is a weather resistant type.
What is the brand of non-contact voltage detector did you use in the video?
It is by Southwire. I’ve found it pretty reliable over the many years that I’ve used it.
Thank you very much....would you happen to know the model #?
Sure thing! I believe the model is 40116N.
@@ExitSign250 Again thank you...your video was very helpful.
I appreciate hearing that! I’m glad I could help.
Silicone bad idea for outside. Use a non-silicone outside caulk for outside the box if someone thinks it is needed.
Never heard of “non-silicone” caulking. Standard silicone caulk is ideal and fine for outdoor use.
My only problem with the in use covers is I’ve had wasps in them 😨
That is true, things can get in from the bottom.
ExitSign250 I had a major wasp problem with the ones I had. So I put the old style covers on my outlets. Otherwise I cannot use them and it’s pointless 😔
What’s the outlet code for South Carolina?
You’d have to look it up. Most states have basic codes online. If not, you can always ask an electrician or an inspector.
How come you not putting in gfi on this outlet?
As said in the video, this outdoor outlet is already wired to a GFCI in a different location.
@@ExitSign250 thanks
There's that four letter word again! CODE is more about supporting an organization than your safety! The NFPA /NEC publishes millions of dollars worth of books annually. Last time I checked the NFPA had 600 permanent employees? With regard to this video; Why is a weather resistant outlet required behind a weatherproof outlet cover? Because the NEC needs changes in order to require a new issue every two years at a cost of $125, $190 with tabs?? Why not publish the NEC in a binder style. That way you would only need whatever pages contain changes every two years?? There are about 8 fatalities annually associated with residential outlets.
Regardless of your opinion on if codes are for safety or for manufacturers profit, it is the law in most areas and must be followed. I do agree with some codes being a little excessive, but most are for safety purposes.
you should've grounded the metal box
The box already had continuity to ground somehow.
@@ExitSign250 oh well then its safe
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Sure thing! Go right ahead. Is really appreciate you asking.
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Go ahead! That would be great! It’s a fun type of video to make.
@@ExitSign250 fantastic! it looks like fun to do. you and S.E.R Safety both gave me a great starting point/ideas that i can now expand upon and make my own in many ways. thank you guys both so much for making such inspirational content over the years with your passions. they always show through and inspire others.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt". (Lincoln) Your disclaimer stating this video was for entertainment proved prophetic. I have 57 years experience as an electrician and seldom is my opinion involved in any thing related to that. My original comment was based on facts that I researched, albeit briefly. America needs more law abiding citizens to maintain the status quo? FYI Your "wire cutters" are referred to as wire strippers by electricians. Also, that metal device box is required to be grounded??
I really don’t know what you are trying to prove. Code is the law and must be followed. Does that mean we all have to agree with it? Not at all.
My disclaimer was legal advice given to me and to relieve me of any liabilities. You would understand if you made electrical videos like I do.
I’ve never heard of anyone get upset about what tools are called… That’s a first and honestly funny to read.
And that box had continuity to ground. I had a segment in the video discovering and discussing this but cut it out due to time constraints.
No need for GFCI
A GFCI is required for outdoor locations. I did not use on in this replacement as there was already one upstream protecting the outlet I installed.
awesome thanks!@@ExitSign250
Nice video
Can a padlock go on that outlet cover?
My particular model does allow for a padlock. Some other may not offer this feature though.
@@ExitSign250 can u say what model and store to get same
@@maryannsinopoli8957 The cover is from Hubbell. Not too sure of the particular model though.
You can find them typically in hardware stores, such as Lowe's, or The Home Depot.