Hey Joe! I’m new to fly fishing. I’ve been learning from your videos and saving money to try and get the gear. I’m going to head over the pass and hit your shop up as soon as the weather is better so I can get over the pass! I appreciate your videos! Keep tight lines! Thank you Sir!
I have several gloomis rods and am very impressed with all of them. I have been euronymphing with a 10’ 5wt Orvis Recon dry fly rod. It’s pretty clunky and I need to buy a true euronymph rod. Likely it will be this rod in a 3 wt.
I have a couple of 10-ft rods but both are heavier. One is an Orvis 10' 5-wt. Access rod and the other is an older 10-ft. 6-wt Orvis PM-10 rod. The older PM-10 has a more delicate tip. But I have nothing as light and long as this 10-ft. 2wt. I primarily use the hinged-nymphing method developed by Dean Schubert and Dave Hickson back in the late '70's/early '80's. I taught fly-fishing schools with Dean for 10-years (1987 through 1997) and done properly, that is a deadly method. I have also used what came to be known as the Euro-nymphing method on the Upper Sacramento River (and elsewhere) where it was just known as short-line nymphing or the Ted Fay Method (back in the 60's and 70's) long before we heard about the Euro-nymphing method. The flies used there were typically known as the "Bomber' series of flies tied by Ted Fay from his fly shop in Dunsmuir, CA alongside the Upper Sacramento River (Upper Sac). Although this short-line nymphing method became known as the Ted Fay Method in the 60's, it was originally introduced by Ted Towendolly (Tauhindauli of the Wintu Tribe) in the 1920's, as was the Black Bomber fly he used to catch fish at the end of his fly rod in the pocketwater of the Upper Sac. Unlike the modern Euro Nymphs, these were large flies typically in sizes 8, 10, and 12. There are lots of Stonefly species in the Upper Sac including the 3" long Giant Salmonfly, the Western Green Drake and other fat clinger nymphs. You'd start tying the fly by running a bed of thread along the hook shank and then putting 0.30 lead wire all along the shank. Then a hackle tail followed by various colors of dubbing and a hackle collar. Some even had some hackle tip wings sloped low like a wet fly wing but split out to the sides as opposed to being married together. The profile wasn't a lot different than that of a bomb and they were very heavy flies. Most importantly they got down to the fish very quickly and you were fishing right away. Most folks lobbed them out and let them sink. Then they raised he tip of the rod until the slack went out of the leader and then led it slowly downstream just slightly faster than the current. The fish in the pocketwater of the Upper Sac would just slam them. There was no subtlety to the take. I've also used that method with flies as small as a #18 PT with a BB shot located about 6" above the fly. I like to fish that along the outer seams of current and then through the seams. Not as explosive of a take as the pocketwater fishing with a bomber, but takes are always solid. Anyhow, I'd love to have a long 2-wt. to use with the Euro-style hard-body nymphs. I like the tip on my old PM-10 10-ft. 6wt., so this would probably replace my Access 105 rod. Thanks!
The rod I have is old and no writing on the rod. It does have a nice aluminum tube. I caught a 9# Brown and a 15 # Rainbow it was my pb of both species. White river in Arkansas. I’m old too! Thanks
If I were the lucky duck, this rod would replace my 10’ #3 Echo Carbon XL Euro Nymph rod. Would be a big upgrade I’m sure! Thanks for the great content!
I’m using a 9 ft 4 wt sage II with one reel set up for drys and another reel with the SA euro nymph line and leader kit….not ideal but it’s allows me to get my feet wet in the euro nymph game here in VA/NC.
Actually, I've never owned less than a 5wt, but it could replace my Cabela's 9' 5wt and be my go-to with my Sage 9' 5wt =) Thanks for the great videos!
Yea, you wouldn't want to replace that rod. The 3106 ESN II is practically cheating haha. It's a tuning fork for feeling strikes. That and the T and T are next level, but this rod is an excellent choice. If someone told me I had to use this rod the rest of my life, I'd be stoked. Nice rod.
Hi Joe, just purchased this rod from your shop on close out. Thanks for all your great content. By the way, if using traditional fly line as a plan B, what weight line would you recommend for the 3 wt 10 footer?
I would just use a WF floater, a 3-4 weight line will work just fine. Heck, you could try a 5 weight if you already have one and see if it works. Maybe make use of the gear you already have.
I’m fishing a 2 wt 10’ sage esn and a 2wt 10’4” epiphany moonshine euro rods. The moonshine tip is more flexy than the esn. Id like to have a euro rod in a 0 or 1 wt for my extreme ultra light nymphing. Red’s, do you know of a rod like this ? Any info will be appreciated!!!! Thanks!! How is the flex on the tip section compared to the esn 2wt?
Oh the ESN is going to give you more feedback than this rod. I would say the ESN is thinner and stiffer, but that's just my gut. I have an ESN 2 Weight, it's sweet. The 10' 2 Weight T and T Contact IMO is the "most telling" out of any rod I've ever personally used. It's a real challenge getting that tip stiff and thin/light without breaking. It's like a mechanical pencil. It's the most precise, but the most brittle.
The IMX PROe seems to be more durable than the Echo products, (which are great, very sensitive) just more fragile than most. I do like the Echo, but it's a good idea to purchase a spare tip.
Hello In usa market nymphing rods Thomas contact 10.8 #3 Cortland MK2 10.6#3 Syndicate pipeline 11#3 Recon 10#3 The better quality Price is Syndicate A nymph rods quality are Length with adaptation to the type of size of river power correspond with size of Beads and fish Distance handle first ring enter 35 45 cm using a leader of 2x size of rods And a 0.55 fly line is better for finger touch And everytime you shoot our nymph Ask you ? Good size and Weight Good length of tippet (1.6 x depth) Speed of indicator = Speed of current
Hey Joe! I’m new to fly fishing. I’ve been learning from your videos and saving money to try and get the gear. I’m going to head over the pass and hit your shop up as soon as the weather is better so I can get over the pass! I appreciate your videos! Keep tight lines! Thank you Sir!
You bet J, thanks for the props and we look forward to helping you out.
I would love to my arsenal, next to the echo shadow x i got from Red's a few years ago!
I'm new to the EURO Nymphing fishing, just like to add a new fly rod to my arsenal!! Love all the videos.
Beginner Canadian Euro Angler here. This would def. replace my noob 10'2 2wt Maxcatch rod in a flippin' hurry! Tight lines!
I have several gloomis rods and am very impressed with all of them. I have been euronymphing with a 10’ 5wt Orvis Recon dry fly rod. It’s pretty clunky and I need to buy a true euronymph rod. Likely it will be this rod in a 3 wt.
I have a couple of 10-ft rods but both are heavier. One is an Orvis 10' 5-wt. Access rod and the other is an older 10-ft. 6-wt Orvis PM-10 rod. The older PM-10 has a more delicate tip. But I have nothing as light and long as this 10-ft. 2wt.
I primarily use the hinged-nymphing method developed by Dean Schubert and Dave Hickson back in the late '70's/early '80's. I taught fly-fishing schools with Dean for 10-years (1987 through 1997) and done properly, that is a deadly method. I have also used what came to be known as the Euro-nymphing method on the Upper Sacramento River (and elsewhere) where it was just known as short-line nymphing or the Ted Fay Method (back in the 60's and 70's) long before we heard about the Euro-nymphing method.
The flies used there were typically known as the "Bomber' series of flies tied by Ted Fay from his fly shop in Dunsmuir, CA alongside the Upper Sacramento River (Upper Sac). Although this short-line nymphing method became known as the Ted Fay Method in the 60's, it was originally introduced by Ted Towendolly (Tauhindauli of the Wintu Tribe) in the 1920's, as was the Black Bomber fly he used to catch fish at the end of his fly rod in the pocketwater of the Upper Sac.
Unlike the modern Euro Nymphs, these were large flies typically in sizes 8, 10, and 12. There are lots of Stonefly species in the Upper Sac including the 3" long Giant Salmonfly, the Western Green Drake and other fat clinger nymphs. You'd start tying the fly by running a bed of thread along the hook shank and then putting 0.30 lead wire all along the shank. Then a hackle tail followed by various colors of dubbing and a hackle collar. Some even had some hackle tip wings sloped low like a wet fly wing but split out to the sides as opposed to being married together. The profile wasn't a lot different than that of a bomb and they were very heavy flies. Most importantly they got down to the fish very quickly and you were fishing right away.
Most folks lobbed them out and let them sink. Then they raised he tip of the rod until the slack went out of the leader and then led it slowly downstream just slightly faster than the current. The fish in the pocketwater of the Upper Sac would just slam them. There was no subtlety to the take. I've also used that method with flies as small as a #18 PT with a BB shot located about 6" above the fly. I like to fish that along the outer seams of current and then through the seams. Not as explosive of a take as the pocketwater fishing with a bomber, but takes are always solid.
Anyhow, I'd love to have a long 2-wt. to use with the Euro-style hard-body nymphs. I like the tip on my old PM-10 10-ft. 6wt., so this would probably replace my Access 105 rod.
Thanks!
This rod would replace an older Orvis Recon 10ft 2 Weight that is growing ready for retirement. Thanks for the review!
Great video my friend,
I would replace a Orvis encounter 9f 5wt.. thanks for the tips
The rod I have is old and no writing on the rod. It does have a nice aluminum tube. I caught a 9# Brown and a 15 # Rainbow it was my pb of both species. White river in Arkansas. I’m old too! Thanks
Have this rod love it
Excellent!
This would be a great replacement rod for my five weight Cabela’s rod that I have now,
If I were the lucky duck, this rod would replace my 10’ #3 Echo Carbon XL Euro Nymph rod. Would be a big upgrade I’m sure! Thanks for the great content!
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I’m using a 9 ft 4 wt sage II with one reel set up for drys and another reel with the SA euro nymph line and leader kit….not ideal but it’s allows me to get my feet wet in the euro nymph game here in VA/NC.
Actually, I've never owned less than a 5wt, but it could replace my Cabela's 9' 5wt and be my go-to with my Sage 9' 5wt =) Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks Joe, I would not replace my Sage 10'6" ESN, I would just add it to my stable of rods.
Yea, you wouldn't want to replace that rod. The 3106 ESN II is practically cheating haha. It's a tuning fork for feeling strikes. That and the T and T are next level, but this rod is an excellent choice. If someone told me I had to use this rod the rest of my life, I'd be stoked. Nice rod.
I would replace an Orvis Recon 10ft 3wt (previous model). Thanks for the great videos!
Love it!
I've heard great things about the Diamondback Ideal Nymph rod.Some say as good as the top two but at the mid price point.
Not familiar with those, but have heard they are super straight.
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@@ryantherock7664 Just meaning a tight and well built rod.
Imx pro E vs Shadow X??? Would love to hear your opinion
This would replace my old winston vapor!
Would replace my cortland competition nymph 10ft 6; 3 weight
Yo! Replacing my orvis Clearwater 5wt
Hi Joe, just purchased this rod from your shop on close out. Thanks for all your great content. By the way, if using traditional fly line as a plan B, what weight line would you recommend for the 3 wt 10 footer?
I would just use a WF floater, a 3-4 weight line will work just fine. Heck, you could try a 5 weight if you already have one and see if it works. Maybe make use of the gear you already have.
a Sage RPL 9' #3 weight
I would be replacing a Sage Discovery 9' 5 wt rod
I would be replacing a Redington Classic Trout rod.
Would replace my Echo Shadow II rod
It would probably replace my Echo carbon 3 wt.
Replacing a 9’ 5wt sage RPL
I’m fishing a 2 wt 10’ sage esn and a 2wt 10’4” epiphany moonshine euro rods. The moonshine tip is more flexy than the esn. Id like to have a euro rod in a 0 or 1 wt for my extreme ultra light nymphing. Red’s, do you know of a rod like this ? Any info will be appreciated!!!! Thanks!! How is the flex on the tip section compared to the esn 2wt?
Oh the ESN is going to give you more feedback than this rod. I would say the ESN is thinner and stiffer, but that's just my gut. I have an ESN 2 Weight, it's sweet. The 10' 2 Weight T and T Contact IMO is the "most telling" out of any rod I've ever personally used. It's a real challenge getting that tip stiff and thin/light without breaking. It's like a mechanical pencil. It's the most precise, but the most brittle.
@@redsflyshop thanks. I do love the esn I bought from yalll. Thanks!!
Not replacing any rods I'm going to butry all them with me. lol
I don’t have a Euro rod so wouldn’t replace any of my rods.
Do these rods have the same issues that the Echo Shadows have with their tips breaking easier than other euro rods?
The IMX PROe seems to be more durable than the Echo products, (which are great, very sensitive) just more fragile than most. I do like the Echo, but it's a good idea to purchase a spare tip.
Gonna replace a junky max catch rod. Come on draw me
Replace my Redington.
Replace my redington
Hello
In usa market nymphing rods Thomas contact 10.8 #3
Cortland MK2 10.6#3
Syndicate pipeline 11#3
Recon 10#3
The better quality Price is Syndicate
A nymph rods quality are
Length with adaptation to the type of size of river
power correspond with size of Beads and fish
Distance handle first ring enter 35 45 cm
using a leader of 2x size of rods
And a 0.55 fly line is better for finger touch
And everytime you shoot our nymph Ask you ?
Good size and Weight
Good length of tippet (1.6 x depth)
Speed of indicator = Speed of current