Trout Spey // What NOT to Do!

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  • Опубліковано 21 кві 2021
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    Anglers with the big rods always seem to cast WAY too far! Trout spey fishing is about efficiency, not distance. Consider how your fly rises in the water column, plan for that rise to take place as close to where you feel that the trout are holding as possible.
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  • @jamesgarrison3901
    @jamesgarrison3901 10 місяців тому +2

    I dig everything that you are saying about what not to do, and I get it. I typically start close, work my way out, and then repeat the process moving down stream. From a practical standpoint, I've covered all of the water.
    That said, sometimes I jsut want to open it up. After all, when one is at spey commitment level , is it about catching or casting?
    I mean, if I just wanted to catch, wouldn't I have a tub of nightcrawlers?

  • @SurfSkagit
    @SurfSkagit 3 роки тому +6

    This clip might be short, but it’s absolutely top level guys.
    We actually have more time the fly in the water and in control than when casting far. Repetition cast in short definitely it’s more productive also in my local surf spots, looks the concept also can be applied in fresh water!
    Thank you Reds fly shop!!

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much! Keep it tight right?!

  • @mikekuczynski1552
    @mikekuczynski1552 2 роки тому

    It’s about time , so many of my trout Spey fishing partners send every cast and totally miss what’s right in front of them . Good advice start inside and work your way out . Thanks for the video

  • @TheFlyFishingFilmmaker
    @TheFlyFishingFilmmaker 2 роки тому

    One thing that really stuck out to me on this video is approaching the water as if I were nymphing. When I nymph (especially euronymphing) I've usually very specific about where/how I'm fishing. I think when I get the trout spey rod in my hand I think "Oh I'll just cover the whole river" but I bet I would get more fish if I fished it more methodically and target specific spots like I would nymphing with the rise up. Always appreciate the great content.

  • @SledorFish
    @SledorFish 3 роки тому +4

    I see a lot of steelheaders making the same mistake of trying to cast too far. Even on a big river like the Skagit I am only making full length casts on maybe half of the runs.

  • @awaken77
    @awaken77 3 роки тому

    very good point! when fishing for trout, fish isn't on the far side. most trout I caught on large river were near the MY bank, not the opposite bank. especially if the bottom has sort of abrupt "edge" parallel to the bank, there's almost always trout holding there

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  3 роки тому +1

      Oh yes, thanks for the feedback. Trout aren't typically migrating, so we need to dig them out of their homes! :).

  • @justal4844
    @justal4844 3 роки тому +1

    What a great video, Joe. Look me up if you ever come over to fish the North Fork of the CdA (or any of our other great rivers).

  • @coreygolphenee9633
    @coreygolphenee9633 Рік тому

    The Mike Kinney book on winter steelhead swinging changed my entire perspective on what the tactic is capable of

  • @SultanofSpey
    @SultanofSpey Рік тому +1

    It's called effectively covering water. When steelheading with a 2-hander, I always see people standing in thigh high water where they should be swimming their fly.

  • @PeachyFlyFishing
    @PeachyFlyFishing 3 роки тому

    Very nicely explained Joe, thanks!

  • @awaken77
    @awaken77 2 роки тому

    Great explanation! I love your channel

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you, love what I get to do here. We appreciate the feedback.

  • @johnparrish336
    @johnparrish336 3 роки тому

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @LouisianaSpey
    @LouisianaSpey Рік тому

    Tru story, just got back from branson and trout were literally swimming at my feet.

  • @Outdawrzman
    @Outdawrzman 2 роки тому

    What's your rod set up ?

  • @clueless4085
    @clueless4085 2 роки тому

    Is that an off hand snake roll?
    Snapping those off like a pro!

  • @719angler
    @719angler 2 роки тому

    I like this farmer joe look

  • @TaupoTroutSlayer
    @TaupoTroutSlayer 2 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @elkhtr8472
    @elkhtr8472 3 роки тому +1

    Great info Joe! What line setup are you using ?thx

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  3 роки тому +2

      That is a RIO InTouch Skagit Trout Spey 275 on a Loomis 11'11" 3 Weight

    • @elkhtr8472
      @elkhtr8472 3 роки тому

      @@redsflyshop I appreciate the reply and information.

    • @mikdin1
      @mikdin1 Рік тому

      @@redsflyshop Great line.

  • @Nrussell11
    @Nrussell11 Рік тому

    The people are asking where the trout spey Scandi videos are at?!

  • @alekmellen935
    @alekmellen935 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video Joe! Is that a scandi or skagit shooting head?

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  3 роки тому +1

      This is a Skagit, for trout I much prefer a Skagit line as it easier to make the short casts.

    • @alekmellen935
      @alekmellen935 3 роки тому

      @@redsflyshop thanks Joe! When I lived in WA I bought an 11.5’ switch rod with a skagit head. Trouble I’m having is finding trout and steelhead rivers in MN large enough for the big switch rod. Can I use my skagit on a shorter 2 handed rod?

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  3 роки тому

      @@alekmellen935 Oh absolutely, you can even use the line system on a single hander with a shorter sink tip. Maybe that would work. Single hand Skagit casting is a ton of fun.

  • @Nrussell11
    @Nrussell11 Рік тому

    This being said, is it possible to use trout spey on mid-sized rivers in the Rockies? My home water is the South Platte River watershed and I'd love to swing on it. Could an 11ft trout spey rod with a Skagit head be used for an environment. A river that is anywhere from 20-50ft wide?

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  Рік тому

      Yes absolutely, you might consider some of the shorter heads. Stick with OPST for tight water, it makes the short casts easy. You might start with an OPST system for your single hand rod first however, then work up from there towards a two hander if the presentation is effective.

    • @Nrussell11
      @Nrussell11 Рік тому

      @@redsflyshop I already use a 10' 4wt OPST Micro Skagit rod and it works pretty well for me. It's great, but as it's a "true to weight" system it's a bit limited in what it can throw.....more of a light switch rod, really. I'm thinking that only adding an extra foot and a bit more backbone via the 11'3wt Trout Spey HD would be viable....and it could play a bit up in Wyoming/Montana.

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  Рік тому

      @@Nrussell11 Oh absolutely go for it then, yes at 11' you'll see a huge advantage in large fly turnover. You obviously have proven the swing, step, swing step, program will be effective for you.

  • @flyguy2021
    @flyguy2021 3 роки тому +4

    Great information. One of the few videos where you don’t hook a fish while you’re demonstrating.

    • @gregbelcamino7239
      @gregbelcamino7239 3 роки тому

      Agreed. Best six minutes of info on this subject I can imagine.

  • @Mr777manbearpig
    @Mr777manbearpig 3 роки тому +6

    Don't tell me how to fish Joe. I'll cast into tomorrow if it makes me happy

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  3 роки тому +5

      Haha yes that is funny, and if you want to cast really far into the future I have a Flux Capacator and some Plutonium that will get you way out there.

    • @Mr777manbearpig
      @Mr777manbearpig 3 роки тому +1

      @@redsflyshop only if it's made by Sage!

  • @rushthezeppelin
    @rushthezeppelin 2 роки тому +1

    One handed rod: I'm going to strategically fish through the fishy sections from closest to furthest
    Two handed rod: Skagit head go WHIRRRRR!!1

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  2 роки тому

      Send it! Same. It's hard to shorten up with the long rod.

  • @cachi-7878
    @cachi-7878 8 місяців тому

    But it’s fun to cast all the way across to the opposite bank…😂

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  8 місяців тому

      Oh heck yea it is. FULL send.

  • @Ryan-yp7zb
    @Ryan-yp7zb 3 роки тому +1

    This really begs the question (for me) do we even need a trout spey? I don't own one... yet 😏

    • @jkdurden
      @jkdurden 2 роки тому

      It’s a lot of fun and a very relaxing way to fish.

    • @jkdurden
      @jkdurden 2 роки тому

      I Spey with single- and two-handed rods.

    • @gregkosinski2303
      @gregkosinski2303 10 місяців тому

      I think if we compare niches, a single handed rod of similar weight if going to be more for swinging nymphs and small soft hackles at the same distance as a trout spey would be with streamers and larger wet flies.

  • @larrycoonrod5563
    @larrycoonrod5563 4 місяці тому

    Hard to take anyone serious who uses a Spey rod for trout

    • @redsflyshop
      @redsflyshop  4 місяці тому

      I'm not sure whether that's funny or sad.

    • @lanemortensen1952
      @lanemortensen1952 4 місяці тому

      Plenty of use cases for a light Spey rod for trout out in the rivers I fish. It’s just another tool. If you want to limit your tools, then that’s cool cuz it just leaves more fish for me.