Very nice video, not only are your videos gold dust as far as Dota 2 coaching is concerned, but the opening quips and your personality shine through making already useful videos engaging and enjoyable. Very glad you've continued to produce content and hope you continue to enjoy making these as much as I do watching them.
thumbs up if u run out of soap and shamefully use shampoo instead Edit: USING THIS MEME TO POINT OUT I FORGOT TO EDIT OUT AN INCORRECT ROSHAN RESPAWN TIMER. It respawns in 8-11 minutes. But my point is it's random, and that's why you need to leave the courier. Edit: fixed it thx youtube editor
Used to do this every game when neutral items first came out, doesn't seem worth it anymore as you essentially lose the tree the second someone walks by, wasting the potential mangoes you could have gotten simply placing it in base. It worked the first couple games where people were still figuring out what the fuck items do, but a week into release placing mango tree next to rosh became the oldest trick in the book
@@-ne0nlightning Such a waste putting free vision by placing into base, I usually place it in the triangle jungle near the stairs, people tend to forget that it's there
@@ralph4466 Yes, I think so. At least, that's where I put it (people don't see it much near your secret shop because they're unlikely to position so aggressively in the first 15 mins of the game) This also lets you quickly pick up mangoes and nuke the enemy jungle (works with underlord lvl 5 or any hero with weave clear)
Andi Adrial Patoppoi imagine doing a chill rosh when all enemy team’s dead and when you kill him all those 5 couriers jump out of nowhere on you like those homeless kids at McDonald’s. “Sir, you wanna clean your windshield?” “No” “Lemme clean it for you sir. Got some change?”
2:19 how does this let you get the creep wave outside of your tower? I've been having trouble finding good info on controlling waves and how to get them closer to the offlaner tower. EDIT: Nevermind, I missed the part about rebounding.
Usually when these get blocked. My supports body the enemy creeps at the edge of the tower range until our wave meets them. Ofc considering enemy heroes so it doesnt happen all the time
I like that you keep us updated with the Papa John's dumpster bums and that you're slowly upgrading your pizza slices. Now they weren't rotten! I wanna see you grow and be able to eat real pizza slices from the Papa John's with UA-cam money
DO NOT block the enemy wave if as Jenkins pointed out that the enemy has a power spike at lvl 2. For example, I play a lot of drow and when I see people do this, often times, it just helps me. Because when I hit 2, I can zone them from gettting level 2 and can hit 3 before they even hit 2 themselves.
if enemy support have skill provides vision, they will just put sentry near cliff and use skill to get vision and deward anyway. works well only when enemy support does not have such skill and have to put sentry directly on the cliff(or use courier to deward)
holy crap that is actually so good. And the courier mechanics are something I definitely would not have thought of, I don't feel like icefrog thought of it either. This definitely seems unexpectedly strong
The ward trick is pretty cool and should stay, makes hero's who have spells that give vision more useful and still requires them to spend a mana/time to know the sneaky ward is there. As for the creep blocking in the bottom lane, they need to nerf that by delaying dire side or just make that lane phased or something.
But I like Dire's offlane. Smh it's easier to double-stack hard camp and ancient camp (if you're pos 4), and you can cheat by having ward *almost* on radiant's hg near outpost (the one explained on video, I have used it since long ago). It's OP if you want to prevent rotation and stealing outpost is safer.
In that first tips, u can counter it by placing your item in that spot thus revealing i think small amount of vision. therefore u can deward without the needs to put sen3 and obs altogether,
What's really broken and you didn't mentioned is placing disco ball from the consumables on top of your head and TP-ing back to base where enemies simply cannot click you.
Excellent video as usual Jenkins, I really think you give the best advice on Dota, advice that matters even if it's not "flashy". I have something to ask though, since today I just uninstalled the game after just one week of playing. I decided to give the game a go after like 4 years of quitting (battle pass and your videos brought me back) and man I was disappointed ... the hacks are huge. My friends started sending me a couple of replays everyday showing some very very obvious hacking. I googled and it turned out to be real. Why isn't this addressed by the community influencers? I'm not singling you out but I think you're really the most genuine speaker out there. All the big Dota channels don't speak about this. Dota turned out to be hackable big time, every other game is full of hacks on both sides; you place a ward, you teleport, you attack neutrals you trigger their hack ... it's a circus.It even happens in tournaments. If pros are doing it then what about regular players? I was just taking a break from a losing spree (1-9 because maybe I still have my old mmr although now I suck hard since I haven't played for years) and decided to watch one of the featured live matches ... guess what it's full of hackers on both sides and everyone was commenting and laughing about this. But here, all the youtube channels are ignoring this ... before we play the game we should fix it. I don't care how valve balances the heroes, or how they change the AP mode or how cool the next arcana is or whatever. How about you just fix the game valve? Why isn't anyone saying this? Something is fishy .. none of the big youtube dota channels ever bring this up ... they talk about mmr boosts or about smurfing but like no one brings up hacking which is way worse ... what's happening to people? Did they all sign an NDA about hacking or something?? Is it like a taboo or something for casters/streamers? Since you're on the other side, any clue on why this is particularly ignored? Is it just too ugly to bring up? Don't they care? People will quit if this keeps going on ... I would appreciate some honesty and if I expect it from someone it would be from you.
i think that second tip is still kinda stupid? what if our hero doesnt have any some sort of spell that could help with blocking such as clock's cog, fissure or even a slow like brew. And the enemy line up is strong even at Lvl 1, it will just make u lose more, u waste healing, may failed to do the blocking, and even miss many lasthits ?
Thanks for these tips man! I've been owning offlane with the courier sniping wards and giving the 3 position the xp when the wave comes under the tower
i've seen a moment when AWF put 2 sentries to deward the obs like you show and haven't found it. He put sentries between two cliffs and tried to find obs with his courier but he didn't found in the end
Rosh spawns 8-11 minutes after its death. Very nice content. I'll definitely look into stealing cheese/aghs/refresher shard since my team is usually reluctant to take roshan and enemy team usually ends up taking it xD
The first trick is probably not gonna work in lower mmr games. They tend to mindlessly place both obs and sents in the same place without knowing why they should or shouldn't
What I always do is put a sentry on the cliff and if there is a sentry but not an obs i just place an obs right onto the sentry without hitting it. Usually never gets dewarded. Only problem are the idiots in your team that hit the enemy sentry that they now have vision on. "I sE3 a wArD i cLiCK"
I guess another cool (but completely random) trick is to check from the beginning of the match if your courier can use items from his inventory. I KNOW they nerfed it to not ever use items I KNOW we are in 7.26 already BUT for some unexplained reasons, in some normal games (like 1 in 4 games) my courier can use items from lv1, YES LEVEL1, courier. I don't care if you don't trust me (btw i have proofs recorded on pc); try to check on your own; at the start of your next games buy a quelling/ward (whatever can be used without mana cost EXCEPT SMOKE OF DECEIT) and try to use it from your courier inventory on a near tree/spot. I'm not the only one that found this bug, it also happened to some of my friends someone else.
If I ever get my items stolen by a courier I am coming for you jenkins.
ikr, now I am gonna have to watch out for couriers stealing my god dam rosh items
oh my gahd hahhahahaha jenkins reported hahaha
hhaahahahahahhahaahahhahaahahhhahahhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :D
Online class with Jenkins is very useful
Unlike school ones
Yeah.. I won't even touch any chemicals, yet need to learn about it
He makes it very boring
I tried so kuch of his guides but the problem is either the enemy support is good or my support steals last hits from me
@@naoerusspatena2452 its prolly cuz you're in a 2k or below bracket, get out of that bracket first :3
Very nice video, not only are your videos gold dust as far as Dota 2 coaching is concerned, but the opening quips and your personality shine through making already useful videos engaging and enjoyable. Very glad you've continued to produce content and hope you continue to enjoy making these as much as I do watching them.
jenkins: "...that are actually broken"
me:
speeed:
speed: It's literaly broken.
Valve:
jenkins: This is broken.
Valve: 7.27 ASAP OR GG
Hahaha dudeeee
Jenkins's broken is more accurate than Speeed's broken, though
I can’t agree more. I have started ignoring Speed broken because it’s more situational/high level. Jenkins broken is actually broken/really cool!
thumbs up if u run out of soap and shamefully use shampoo instead
Edit: USING THIS MEME TO POINT OUT I FORGOT TO EDIT OUT AN INCORRECT ROSHAN RESPAWN TIMER. It respawns in 8-11 minutes. But my point is it's random, and that's why you need to leave the courier.
Edit: fixed it thx youtube editor
NO SHAME IN MY GAME BOI
Nice joke
bro my shampoo costs way more than my soap.
omg
your channel is a gold mine,
I'd kill because it's in Spanish since I understand half of what you say
I'm doing the opposite, using bar soap as shampoo :/
curious on how well this works when pulling or blocking the enemies creeps. the two examples u showed had no support/heroes at all contesting them
also the mango tree behind the Rosh pit
Used to do this every game when neutral items first came out, doesn't seem worth it anymore as you essentially lose the tree the second someone walks by, wasting the potential mangoes you could have gotten simply placing it in base. It worked the first couple games where people were still figuring out what the fuck items do, but a week into release placing mango tree next to rosh became the oldest trick in the book
@@-ne0nlightning Such a waste putting free vision by placing into base, I usually place it in the triangle jungle near the stairs, people tend to forget that it's there
@@Swesher9 Where? The one at radiant's top jungle?
@@ralph4466 Yes, I think so. At least, that's where I put it (people don't see it much near your secret shop because they're unlikely to position so aggressively in the first 15 mins of the game)
This also lets you quickly pick up mangoes and nuke the enemy jungle (works with underlord lvl 5 or any hero with weave clear)
@@-ne0nlightning Yeah I watched a high mmr game the other day and it struck me odd that he planted it in base. But I suppose it makes sense.
Speeeed from Gameleap: "Broken, Broken, broken course."
Jenkins:"broken. This is broken."
Confirmed Jenkins joining Gameleap kappa or not kappa?
Jenkins had already made a lot of guides for Gameleap in the past. His guides on how to play support are the actual reason I followed him.
It’s good to have short videos but useful information. You have done great jobs!
What do when your enemy carry goes to also block their own wave (assuming you can’t fight them off with your support vs them and their support)
Laugh at them when they die because the wave is too far forward
@@lemon5704 say gg and abandon
I do this in order to get lvl 2 faster than the enemy offlaner and to be able to deny more creeps from them.
Thank you jenkins, now i can tell my team to send all 5 cour whenever they rosh
Andi Adrial Patoppoi imagine doing a chill rosh when all enemy team’s dead and when you kill him all those 5 couriers jump out of nowhere on you like those homeless kids at McDonald’s. “Sir, you wanna clean your windshield?” “No” “Lemme clean it for you sir. Got some change?”
@@valelelentin this is weirdly specific. Should've given those kids some change.
I got cut up by some Domino's dumpster bums. Stay safe out there.
Were you in a David Lynch movie?
@@whatdothlife4660 Gotta Light?
Wow. My low level pubs are gonna hate the Rosh drop steal bits. Thanks Jenkins. Keep up the content.
2:19 how does this let you get the creep wave outside of your tower? I've been having trouble finding good info on controlling waves and how to get them closer to the offlaner tower.
EDIT: Nevermind, I missed the part about rebounding.
The 1st trick usually dont work in lower bracket they would plant obs and sent at the same time
Hi Master Jenkins, do u have any other warding spots like 0:37 ?
Question: why is the creeps not attacking the hero when body blocking???
1st wave of creeps do not aggro anymore because people abused it some time ago
2:20 my carry does it for them.....
Usually when these get blocked. My supports body the enemy creeps at the edge of the tower range until our wave meets them. Ofc considering enemy heroes so it doesnt happen all the time
I love this video, I have a question tho.
The enemy creeps seem not to be attacking the enemy hero when bodyblocking them, how does that happen ?
First wave never aggros
Until they see enemy creeps, that is
Always a like and comment for my boi Jenkins.
Bless your soul jenkins , thiking I need to block the creeps in the lower brackets while the safe lane carry always blocks it for me.
Top notch intro and outro as usual
I like that you keep us updated with the Papa John's dumpster bums and that you're slowly upgrading your pizza slices. Now they weren't rotten!
I wanna see you grow and be able to eat real pizza slices from the Papa John's with UA-cam money
DO NOT block the enemy wave if as Jenkins pointed out that the enemy has a power spike at lvl 2. For example, I play a lot of drow and when I see people do this, often times, it just helps me. Because when I hit 2, I can zone them from gettting level 2 and can hit 3 before they even hit 2 themselves.
thanks for this webinar mr Anton Jeffery. Leaded a lot about molecular biology
Lilias : i missclick
Jenkins : what a move
Is there a way to do the blocking of enemy creeps if they are at the wave too?
Dude you have helped my game so much. mad love man.
wait why does beastmaster able to block the enemy creep? why dont the creeps attack him?
if enemy support have skill provides vision, they will just put sentry near cliff and use skill to get vision and deward anyway.
works well only when enemy support does not have such skill and have to put sentry directly on the cliff(or use courier to deward)
Thanks man, nice tricks, hope to see more.
lmao i love the storys you make man. those are storys roght? xd
Didn’t know about the courier hide spot behind rosh. Learnt sth new amazing thx my bro 💜 much love from Germany
Why don't you attract aggro when you block the enemy creeps?
The funny thing is that in sea the safelane carries are the one who actually block the creep wave
wait, so, why the first creepwave doesn't aggro?
About second method ,How do I counter it?
Great video especially that ending XD Any advice for playing pudge?
holy crap that is actually so good. And the courier mechanics are something I definitely would not have thought of, I don't feel like icefrog thought of it either. This definitely seems unexpectedly strong
The ward trick is pretty cool and should stay, makes hero's who have spells that give vision more useful and still requires them to spend a mana/time to know the sneaky ward is there. As for the creep blocking in the bottom lane, they need to nerf that by delaying dire side or just make that lane phased or something.
Dude as a first scrub coming from league little tips like this are so helpful thanks
I dont even play the game, but your videos well made and very informative and fun. You got a new sub.
Nice Thanks for this Sir Jenkins. I really learn alot for the videos that you uploaded.
You can have the courier return to a default location?
I haven't played in weeks, but why doesn't the 1st creep wave, aggro the enemy?
Do you think it is sort of easier to play the Radiant safe lane than the Dire one?
yes movement between the tower the lane and the jungle camps is much more convenient for the radiant safe laner
But I like Dire's offlane. Smh it's easier to double-stack hard camp and ancient camp (if you're pos 4), and you can cheat by having ward *almost* on radiant's hg near outpost (the one explained on video, I have used it since long ago). It's OP if you want to prevent rotation and stealing outpost is safer.
In that first tips, u can counter it by placing your item in that spot thus revealing i think small amount of vision.
therefore u can deward without the needs to put sen3 and obs altogether,
that first wave block is mind blowing bruh.
What's really broken and you didn't mentioned is placing disco ball from the consumables on top of your head and TP-ing back to base where enemies simply cannot click you.
In my last game our refresher shard and cheese was stolen. Thanks to you Jenkins!
Damn I am really proud of myself doing the lava courier trick before this video showed up, thank you Jenkins-sensei ❤️
Random roshan respawn? It was 10 min after the last roshan killed right?
simple, useful and cool. Ty man. GJ. Keep it up.
Jenkins video really helped me improve alot. Was 4k now 4.5k just by doing some of his tips
Unfortunately the warding tip won't work in low mmr because most people just put sentry and obs in the same place
02:41 wtf why does am have Monkey King's attack range? 😂
I died too many times from a melee sniper.... fix volvo🤣🤣
I get it. But why Refresher Shard shouldnt work?
Double click your hero Icon to lock the camera on him. 5 years in and I never new that untill now
Excellent video as usual Jenkins, I really think you give the best advice on Dota, advice that matters even if it's not "flashy". I have something to ask though, since today I just uninstalled the game after just one week of playing. I decided to give the game a go after like 4 years of quitting (battle pass and your videos brought me back) and man I was disappointed ... the hacks are huge. My friends started sending me a couple of replays everyday showing some very very obvious hacking. I googled and it turned out to be real. Why isn't this addressed by the community influencers? I'm not singling you out but I think you're really the most genuine speaker out there. All the big Dota channels don't speak about this. Dota turned out to be hackable big time, every other game is full of hacks on both sides; you place a ward, you teleport, you attack neutrals you trigger their hack ... it's a circus.It even happens in tournaments. If pros are doing it then what about regular players? I was just taking a break from a losing spree (1-9 because maybe I still have my old mmr although now I suck hard since I haven't played for years) and decided to watch one of the featured live matches ... guess what it's full of hackers on both sides and everyone was commenting and laughing about this. But here, all the youtube channels are ignoring this ... before we play the game we should fix it. I don't care how valve balances the heroes, or how they change the AP mode or how cool the next arcana is or whatever. How about you just fix the game valve? Why isn't anyone saying this? Something is fishy .. none of the big youtube dota channels ever bring this up ... they talk about mmr boosts or about smurfing but like no one brings up hacking which is way worse ... what's happening to people? Did they all sign an NDA about hacking or something?? Is it like a taboo or something for casters/streamers? Since you're on the other side, any clue on why this is particularly ignored? Is it just too ugly to bring up? Don't they care? People will quit if this keeps going on ... I would appreciate some honesty and if I expect it from someone it would be from you.
i think that second tip is still kinda stupid? what if our hero doesnt have any some sort of spell that could help with blocking such as clock's cog, fissure or even a slow like brew. And the enemy line up is strong even at Lvl 1, it will just make u lose more, u waste healing, may failed to do the blocking, and even miss many lasthits ?
i dont get it why the creeps aren't attacking you while you're blocking them is that a new update?
Not gonna sleep today
Thanks for these tips man! I've been owning offlane with the courier sniping wards and giving the 3 position the xp when the wave comes under the tower
If enemy offlane does not stop creeps, I just meet them at the edge of the towers range, and keep them there, until my creeps arrive
icefrog is a legit genius, so many hidden eggs in dota its insane. The complexity of the game is next level
Oh yeah another Jenkins video !!!
i've seen a moment when AWF put 2 sentries to deward the obs like you show and haven't found it. He put sentries between two cliffs and tried to find obs with his courier but he didn't found in the end
Rosh spawns 8-11 minutes after its death. Very nice content. I'll definitely look into stealing cheese/aghs/refresher shard since my team is usually reluctant to take roshan and enemy team usually ends up taking it xD
Why are ppl still going so much tango as opposed to ring of tarasque
I'm not playing Dota 2 anymore, but watching this really fun
Funny and helpful, keep up the good work dude!
That courier rosh trick is lit af.
Thanks . First time I saw how courier can steal item from Rosh on iceiceice stream few days ago
Nice courier trick on rosh btw, never seen that in my games.
appreciate the content, Jerkins! :)
Can courier pick aegis?
The first trick is probably not gonna work in lower mmr games. They tend to mindlessly place both obs and sents in the same place without knowing why they should or shouldn't
How wasn t that first wave of creeps attacking you ?
nice video dude
Do warding and camp pulling guide
Jenkins you're a genius man. Thanks for spreading the cheese info
the intros are always my favorite
Comment to support. Great content!
*plays video*
*instantly hears the most relatable thing in his life*
Never thought online class will be so useful and enjoyng
You gotta treat yourself every now and then, Jenkins. The Luby's down on main has semi-fresh leftovers in their trash bins.
What I always do is put a sentry on the cliff and if there is a sentry but not an obs i just place an obs right onto the sentry without hitting it. Usually never gets dewarded. Only problem are the idiots in your team that hit the enemy sentry that they now have vision on. "I sE3 a wArD i cLiCK"
my god man thank u for the OBSERVER WARD trick
everyone in dota learnt about puppey ward because of u jenkins! XD they re becoming pro
Thank you Jenkins, very cool
jenkin please make more herald analysys video please
it's 3am, get a life Jenkins!
4 am for hahahaha
Ah the Canadian luxury of leaving your house at night. God bless America.
4 am here now
the outro XD i love u
Can you do more OG analysis
Awesome stuff dude.
aPPRECIATE THE CONTENT THANKS JENKINS!
Rosh respawn is not random! At least not for me. Its basically guaranteed to be between 10mins40 and 11mins. :D
The last.. I'll absolutely do that. Thanks for that
I guess another cool (but completely random) trick is to check from the beginning of the match if your courier can use items from his inventory.
I KNOW they nerfed it to not ever use items
I KNOW we are in 7.26 already
BUT for some unexplained reasons, in some normal games (like 1 in 4 games) my courier can use items from lv1, YES LEVEL1, courier.
I don't care if you don't trust me (btw i have proofs recorded on pc); try to check on your own; at the start of your next games buy a quelling/ward (whatever can be used without mana cost EXCEPT SMOKE OF DECEIT) and try to use it from your courier inventory on a near tree/spot.
I'm not the only one that found this bug, it also happened to some of my friends someone else.
Thank you jenkinz. Ur the best