So You Wanna Know About Bob Glidden's Ford 351 Cleveland, See Inside The Engine, The Shop
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2025
- I made this video to document, a week with Bob Glidden, with his early cars, initially, and then just the '76 Pinto. He raced a Fairlane, and Mustangs, in super stock, my favorite is his 68 Cobra Jet Mustang. The paint now, if it is the same car, is Killer Candy Red. I wanted to make it a week with Bob Glidden, Seeing the Pinto race, coming back to the shop, and get torn down. See inside the Ford 351 Cleveland he raced, check out his shop inside, I narrated it to give more insight, and detail on things you might know, if it was not pointed out. The Pinto is back together, and goes, and off to race The Gapp and Roush Pinto, wheeled by Ken Dondaro. Bob takes the win. I hope you guys appreciate it, stay tuned... MOre on the way. Credit for pics goes to Petersen Museum, all pics found on the net.
I am not really a Ford guy but appreciate all fast cars. It was in 88 or 89 when on the western swing the prostock guys would stop on their way Seattle at Woodburn to test. I was at the Warren Johnson pit watching him sign autographs. Got bored and went over to the Glidden pit to watch him for a while. There was a kid in a wheelchair towards the back of the line. Bob got up from his seat, walked back, got the kid, picked him up and sat him in his car and posed for pictures. Changed my perspective of Bob Glidden forever.
Wow, that’s a real story. I love that. No doubt Glidden was like to fans very cool and out. I will tell you this. I talked to Warren Johnson, and last Friday, second time we have talked about 45 minutes. What a story he has to tell. It just amazes me. He’s going to be on DragBoss Garage live. Chat soon. I’m waiting for Miss Arlene to get things ready. It will be a story to tell my friend. I’m glad you’re here. I’m not a Chevy guy, but I appreciate any car. Any engine no matter what. That’s what makes a difference.
My first race when I was 13 was in '89 at Pomona 2 as a die hard Ford fan I'm standing at the rope of Bob's pit just in awe of the car when I see the rope lift up, I look to my right and it's Bob saying come on in and get a closer look, fan for life, I already was anyway.
It's no secret that Bob and Larry Morgan were good friends, years later at Pomona with my family standing there looking at Larry Morgan's Mustang, Larry walks over lifts the rope and tells us (myself, wife and both kids) come get a closer look. I talked to Larry for a bit and told him that Bob did the same thing to me when I was 13 and here we are and my kids are getting the same treatment, his eyes welled up a little. Ford guys are the best.
That’s what I’m talking about. That life long lasting impression. I met him once when he was with Billy early 2000s. I need to get Larry on for a live chat. Bob used to work at Larry’s shop at one time. Thanks for sharing your story. 💪💯🏁
I looked up Glidden in the dictionary it simply said " LEGEND". Bob won with various makes and models. He also won with both Ford and Mopar small blocks and my personal favorite his 500 inch Boss. Always had time to talk with fans unless he was thrashing. A great racing family.
200% on that, he’s the man, the and the legend. Always had time for his family. I need to get Rusty back on for a live chat. He’s always fun to talk with.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland can't wait to hear more about the legendary family.
Lots more in store believe me, I just need 36 hours in a day and I’d be OK
Growing up a Ford fanatic & living less than an hour from Bob,when they lived in Whiteland. I never get tired of hearing about this legend! I don't know what illness he had all I know is,it's a damned shame he left us all,way too soon! ❤💔😔😥🏆
Thank you Robert, for the dedication and kind words. Yes gone too soon, rip Bob. Thanks for all you did fore the Cleveland
Mr. Glidden died of colon/rectal cancer.
@@cutlets6152 Thank you for the info,I appreciate it.
This is a good interview, I never knew Ford pulled the plug at the end..I thik they realized NHRA was going to change the rules to help GM regardless ua-cam.com/video/Ciu1DNRhOsc/v-deo.html
Yeah, that grin as he was cooking up his combustion chambers was PRICELESS !!
I know it, because he knew he had the edge....
Thank you for this I was 8 years old in 1976 and I've been a Ford lover all of my 55 years on this earth. Bob Glidden is/was the MAN!!! Once again thank you for posting these videos...
Same here Thomas. Agreed💯🏁 your most welcome. Hope you stick around
Just want to say thanks for keeping the memory of this historic period of motor racing alive. The cleveland engine and pro stock racing was a special time.
Your most welcome Michael, this is a time we will never see again, the development was exponential. Stay tuned my friend.
Bob Glidden is my all time favorite racer, what got me into drag racing, use to love watching diamond P sports on the weekends as a kid.
Me too Jim, but I was only lucky enough to catch it on a Saturday afternoon. We had no tv guide or menus, lol
The Cleveland's are still impressive today. Jon Kasse race engines based off the 351 Cleveland consistently wins the engine masters competition most years. Glidden was ahead of his time. And that was also a Cleveland that Ernie Elliot built that helped Bill take the fastest lap around Talladega at 216 mph .
Thanks Thomas. Cleveland’s to the front. Have heard the Cleveland was most outlawed engine. Those were the days when they still looked like cars.
A late stepfather set a record at Daytona in 68 in his 67 Shelby GT350, with his 289. 167.86 mph lap, 210 back stretch. Black flagged for possible cheating. Long story, but it was legal and made 504@9k rpm all season.
FYI, Ted Haywood. God bless his soul. :-) Taught me much. He learned from Smokey. After a stint in the Marines, and a tour with Jax PD. They weren't fond of racing officers. Seems you would promote him to train the rest and reduce fatalities, but that's just me, I guess. I think LA caught on 40 years later.
The Wood Brothers also had Bob build engines for them.
Great history Bryan. I forgot who Ted Haywood is? Can you refresh my memory. Thanks
I loved the fastback Mustang when I was a teenager. A friend of mine's big brother had, I think, a Mach II? It was very similar to the Nitro 9 in the beginning of this video. It was nothing for these cars to pull the front wheels up off the pavement. Back in the early 80's in Midwest City, Oklahoma, Air Depot Blvd was the main drag on Friday and Saturday nights, and I was lucky enough to cruise in the back seat a half a dozen times when I was 18, I think, or somewhere around that time. It was a tight fit back there lol but it was something to ride in! When I was 17, I got to drive a 67 GTO a friend had built and modified with a 3 speed on the floor and slick 50's on the back, and that thing would burnout from first to 3rd at a roll. I was on a new residential neighborhood street and burned out from one end of the block to the other, I don't know, two or three hundred feet? Man, the power it had! Fun days back then with all the street racing.
Oh yeah that’s what I’m talking about. The roll in burn out and shifting gears that’s what I am talking about As in burn out machine. Yeah that’s cool. they never made a Mach ll, but Mach l came out in 69.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ok, that was the first time for me to have seen or heard of a Mach I. Man it was something! You could tell Ford made it for racing because the back seats were big enough for a kid lol
You are the MAN. Being a big fan of Bob's I'm loving this. Thank you.
thanks Steve, I thought you would dig this.
I find the Ford Pinto so cool man , beautiful 70’s lines , I’ve got a ‘79 F100 with an Australian Made 351 Cleveland, it’s a beautiful engine I absolutely love it , when I bought the truck I used to flog it , and it never let me down , one day this mechanic did a dodge work on the hose felt on the 750 Holley butterfly locking it I was with my daughter behind this B-Double the truck kept pulling forward I tapped the accelerator to try unlock it it went further up on the high revs I pulled onto my drive way it was high as high I turned the key off even made this blast noise of petrol , unlocked the butterfly she runs like a queen up to today it was almost 10 years ago , 351 Cleveland are very loved in Australia, thank you for this documentary.
Adelaide, South Australia 🇦🇺
Leandro, looks like you got it going on. I love Ford trucks too. Glad you did not have throttle stick and get into an accident. Your still driving her, take care of her and enjoy the cleveland, cheers mate 🇦🇺
Remembering him at Englishtown in the late 70s in the pits working on his engine taking to us guys like a normal guy really a extremely wonderful time in racing in the 70s
James, those are the days. We will never see those days again. Very sad. I bet you that was wicked. Thanks for sharing with me. Stay tuned for more Bob Glidden.
I myself am a Warren Johnson fan because I'm a oldsmobile man but I got nothing but respect for Bob Glidden truly a awesome person and good racer
I am trying to get him on my live chat, Rusty is going to talk to him. The professor was the man, still have a signed card by him.
Bob was a very smart man, all the videos and pictures detailing his work is priceless. Keep bringing new content I’m a huge glidden fan
I am too, I enjoy seeing this type of stuff, from a day when there was no comp, or internet. Only Blood, sweat, and gears.
Mr Glidden built some very fast Fords. What a legend. I was a wee kid watching NHRA on TV in the 70s and 80s. My mom had a Maverick and I had an aunt that had a Pinto. That Budweiser car was insane. Thanks for this video.
Your welcome. I did the same in 1975. Had neighbors with mustangs, corvette, and super bee. Too bad, my dad had a rambler
Thanks Tim!
I was a big time pro stock fan through this period. This is great stuff.
I met Bob at the Mile High Nationals in 1982. He was standing inside the doorway of the trailer checking spark plugs when I first saw him. I brought two of those spark plugs home with me and still have one on a shelf in my living room.
I have always been a naturally aspirated engine guy and enjoyed learning as much as possible about racing engines in general.
Thanks again Tim for helping to keep this history alive.
Your most welcome, Love the spark plugs, I would do the same. I am also a NA guy, too much monkey business for this old school guy.
Absolutely my favorite Pro Stock Driver (Builder) of all time by far! Those were the best days of that class in my opinion.
For sure. Never see times like that again. Thanks Phillip
@@DragBoss351Cleveland You're very welcome and thanks for the excellent video.
Stay tuned for more, Phillip
Hello from deep south of nz thats how far bobs followers reached a lone ford going against all those gm brands never underestimate the underdog!!
All the way my friend. Hope all is well f D own there. 🇳🇿
I dont think I've ever commented in UA-cam. I happened across this and couldn't believe how I was taken back in time. My best friend and I were 13 and working on his 289 the summer we got to see Bob Glidden at Thunder Valley in Bristol, when it was IHRA. We thought we were in the club, knowing how Bob would cover his motor. :) The details you show are amazing and very cool! Thanks a lot for putting the work into this and for sharing it with the world. Watching this video took me back to the early 80's. Now off to watch some nostalgic pro stock videos. Thanks!!!
thanks Tyler, you get it, and that is cool. You lived it too. Thanks for taking the time to watch, and learn about the mods he made to stay ahead of the pack. More in store Tyler, thank you
That was a hard working family. I seen the same valve grinding machine I have. Love seeing all the old footage. Thanks 😊🙏
I agree Mike!
Tim you just keep out doing yourself this is heartfelt stuff thanks so much for what your doing with this nothing like this anywhere
Thank you Terry
Great vid!! 👍👍👍
I miss Bob, always would see him in town and talk to him, he was a GREAT guy!!
Hell yeah!, your welcome, way more on the way
@@DragBoss351Cleveland 👍👍👍😉
If only Ford would bring back an all aluminum block all aluminum headed 351 Cleveland again. pushrod motor they would corner the market, thanks Tim
Wishful thinking, but now the parts are coming to fruition, so we will have to do it ourselves, Rono, your welcome, appreciate it.
It’s just starting, stay tuned Johnny.
Godzilla is pretty much filling that niche. Of course we have to remember that the Cleveland is the most BANNED engine in “racing” history.
Damn straight on that man, but I do appreciate the new innovations and technology, love to put that Godzilla in my 40 FORD Coupe. Hey, you never know me and Brian May work on something thank you.
and while they're at it how about a SOHC head for it too?
Although I'm an FE guy of 50 years literally, mainly pulling truck motors, wish I had his secrets back in the 70's . Fortunately, our sideoiler and a few head and port tricks of our own kept us on top locally in the stock class. But, when I watch this I see how far behind we were in knowledge, skill and work ethic. As I build what will be my final FE (428 cj) you can bet I will have some intake runner experimentation going on. Ray Paqueut, legendary t-bolt racer has allowed us good looks at his 427. We shall see this Sumner. Thank you for all that you do brother. Glidden deserves nothing less
Your most welcome Bob, Yes he was a man way ahead of his time, hope you saw my other Glidden videos, especially why he was faster than other racers, I show how he modified the combustion chamber of the Cleveland, to what is standard today. That was like 74 or 75 ish. Good luck with the build. My buddy has two aluminum FE blocks, that need finished, these are as cast. He designed the Pond 427 block. If interested in a block let me know. Working on deal to get 2 as casted Cleveland blocks from buddy. My other new friend, is going to machine them.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland appreciate the response a ton. Have your email saved ttys. Thx again
@@bobleenko512right on, If you ever want to feature your build, or FE tricks let me know, we can make a video ...
GREAT footage Tim, words can't begin to get a hold of this guy and his family's utter hard work and determination; day in and day out, for more than TWO decades. They worked harder in one year than I've done in my 60 !!
you are so right. More than I have done in 56 years, lol
cheering for Bob was like being a BAMA football fan today .. you enjoyed winning .. i gotta look up his brother in law here in bama and get some stories out of him ..
Bama all the way Willie. Thanks for watching commenting. Find him and get the scoop
Exactly, it didn't really matter who he was running against, you expected him to win, just like the Tide. Roll Tide
Tim, love the retrospective. Through the 70's and 80's I was both a hard-core Chevy guy and tired of seeing the Glidden Cleveland head advantage. Nothing thrilled me more than seeing RMS take the title away and hold it until Lee Shepherd's death. But I came to appreciate Bob's work ethic and I even had a 4bbl Cleveland in my collection for a season. Thanks for posting.
Miles, I appreciate your candor very insightful, I love Lee Shepard too, another amazing racer in all aspects. Hope you subscribed, lots of live chats about everything, check out the Darin Morgan Interviews thanks for being here
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Thanks Tim those early Videos and Pictures are priceless. Bob Glidden, Grumpy Jenkins, Don Garlits worked tirelessly and with limited funding were way ahead of the curve
Its awesome that you're bringing back this history - Thank You 🦘🦘🦘
They sure were Hemi, I appreciate you enjoying the things that I do. Great minds think alike.
That was fantastic...I remember meeting him at Natl Trails in Ohio...we were running aa/f at the time with Don Vest. Greatest Ford ever.
Thanks man. Raced at trails all the time when. Lives in Columbus. He sure was thanks.
The harder you work, the luckier you get. Work smarter AND harder. That was the Glidden way. Bob and his family set the benchmark. Cool pics, Tim.
Bill he always said he was just lucky, lol.
One in a million what a true genius people like that don't come along every day you'll be sorrly missed
They sure don’t, and now they are even more few and far between. RIP Bob. Thanks Robert explore the channels see what other Gliddens secrets are there.
This man was as serious as they come, I always wonder why does he wins so much race's. After watching this video, I do now know...thank you for this clip 👍
Yes, he was a man way ahead of his time. Glad you could learn something, see you tonight on live chat with Lake Speed Jr.
Love BG!! My dad owned the Ed Martin Ford 1963 lightweight Galaxie for several years. Great episode!
Hell Yeah! Chris, thanks for watching, lots of Glidden videos.
This is such a great video. Just a Glidden fan here, graduated hs in 1975 and my car was a K code four speed mustang. My girlfriend lived in Franklin, IN and I lived on Indy's southside. So to get there was I65 south, take the Whiteland exit, west to Graham Road then south to Franklin where the RR tracks cross. Went by the Glidden's complex on the way there many times. Most times I would push the clutch in and give a high-rev salute. Thanks again.
Love that story. 🫡. He had such a strong fan base, even more now. Rip Bob Glidden.
Pretty cool video Tim im a big chevy guy but I just bought a fox body and im going blue oval on it💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
That's the best way, no LS, it SHOULD be Fordified !!
@@arkhsm yeah planning on building a 393 or 408 clevor but cant find any 4v closed chambers at my area
Now your talking, sounds like you prefer Chevy, but love any engine that has been made. Thanks for watching, and keep us posted.
What area is that?
@@DragBoss351Cleveland southern california/mexico
that was some amazing time for the 70's! 8.84 seconds, wow!
Bloody awesome job your doing Tim 👍. Long live the Cleveland
Bloody well right, from a song, Thank you Patrick for watching, long live the king....Cleveland
This is truly incredible! So much knowledge and food for thought here.
This has to be the best video I have ever seen about Bob and the Glidden family as a racing team.
Makes me appreciate the times I saw him race in person even more.
Especially like the 1970 Mustang and the all American livery!
He really did us blue oval guy's proud.
Thank you Tim.
Your welcome. Tried tie it in to a week at gliddens. I agree with you 100 percent. Makes you wonder if the walls could talk, what would we hear. DBG moving forward unlocking the secrets of pro stock history
Another "Great" Bob Glidden video! I love seeing those days, it brings back tons of memories. As I've said many times, I was dirt dobbing when Mr. Glidden was tearing up the strip, but we ran the Clevelands too. I'm always amazed at how advanced he was on those engines. I could have used a few of those spare parts he had laying around myself lol.
I have to agree with you 200 percent. Would have loved to take away his junk parts.
Building engines on the floor. Thank you. It's like being an apprentice again. My old man did that for 50 plus years. With no problems
Your welcome Guy, bring it back and get a build going
Many moons ago in a small machine shop in Pooler GA I remember coming to work one day and the old man who ran the shop said he had some eye candy for me. A guy had dropped off a set of Rousch Cleveland heads. I remember that the exhaust ports were completely milled away. As in the factory exhaust ports were completely gone. In their place was a plate that ran the length of the head with exhaust ports relocated. The plate was bolted into the head wherever they could find a spot to drill and tap on the head. That and epoxy everywhere. Not only that but all the head bolt holes were drilled out and sleeved, due to the extreme angle the heads were angle milled. The rocker bosses (all of them) appeared to be all welded and redrilled and tapped as well. The intake ports were filled with epoxy and resembled the shape of a BBC intake port. The guy that had them said he had spent a lot of time trying to buy them. I believe he said they were an early nascar head. They were pretty neat. I don’t know what ever happened to them.
Very cool history, to be there at that time.I have a few sets of them, and have a video, that is almost done, that shed some more light on the subject. Coo to hear about the angle milling, requiring pushrod tubes, never seen the rocker arm pads all welded and redrilled, and tapped. thanks for sharing with us, stay tuned for more...
@@DragBoss351Cleveland this brings back a lot of great memories for me. Back in the day when the aftermarket cylinder heads for SBF’s started to come along, I was a diehard Cleveland guy. For awhile at least. They definitely were challenging when spraying the ever living hell out of them. But all in all it worked well for me.
@@jeremy31326 I hear ya, me too. Started racing Cleveland’s at 16 and never looked back. I’m old school and happy with that type of technology and of course incorporate new methods, if not too much for my brain to handle. Thanks
Great Stuff Tim! Love seeing the inside of the Mighty Cleveland
Me too very surprised to see it.
Great video! Bob was then man! I sat on one of his slicks at Fremont in 82, and watched him and Etta change one of these mountain motors in his EXP. He wasn't doing a well then. That all changed a few years later with that Thunderbird!
Oh yeah, he did not like the boss 429 initially, then the AR stuff started to be developed and made. Pretty fast I bet they were changing that mill
Loved watching Bob. He was the man. I live right down the street from his place. Our road was his little "test" track.
So cool to hear, I bet you have seen some action.
I watched Bob in the finals against Dyno Dons Pinto at beeline dragway AHRA Winternationals in 1973. Have video of that final. Don took the win against Bob in the finals. But I don’t believe Bob had won his first race as a Pro Stock driver yet. Watched Bob in the following years up until he passed Dec 17 2017…. Great photos of Glidden racing Tim. Thanks.
John that is so cool, to have been there. If you have a video you should send it to me and I will post it, be kind of cool to see the real deal, seeing the way it really was. Yes I followed him too rip Bob Glidden
Awesome compilation of Glidden history.......I can't wait for someone to gather his life story of racing and publish a book.......that I can add to my large collection of books....
I’m working on some new stuff that I think you’ll like. I should bake a book, I have enough photos that’s for sure. Stay tuned for that.
I love all of this old drag race stuff.especially this one on Bob Glidden.
Bringing back pro stock one last time before the sands of time cover it.
Pst...pst. Hey Tim, don't forget to mention how incredibly incredible it was that Bub came in 2nd to the Pro Stock Champ...in his very first Pro Stock race and knowing literally nothing about Clevelands. Truly...incredibly incredible. But there'd be more incredibly incredible moments in his career...occurring most often just when he needed it most. 😜😜😜
I won’t. Like he always said he was pretty lucky when he needed it. 🍀
I ran into Bob Glidden once just walking around the pits at the Winter Nationals back in the early '80s. Have to say he was one of the most approachable drivers in the Pro classes, a class act. Custom sheet metal tunnel ram intakes became pretty much the standard by the mid 80's if I remember correctly and VERY expensive too. Great video my friend, thanks 👍👍.
Thank Chris for the story, sounded like it was a great convo, he was there for his fans. Definitely expensive, I think Dick Maskin made the first one.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Unfortunately it wasn't much of a conversation. I was 14 at the time and he was the MAN as far as I was concerned. He shook my hand, said hello and I just froze. But it was frickin' BOB GLIDDEN! What a great day that was. Thanks for the all the great videos my friend 👍👍
@@chrisnizer5702 Thanks Chris for taking us back to a time, when the world was a simpler place to live. "The Good Old days" DBG
What was lions drag strip Pat?
A lot of this I did not know about Bob. Being a total Ford fanatic this is really super awesome stuff!
Thanks Bob, appreciate you enjoying every detail. More on the way.
As a youngster i used to cringe when i'd see him pulling into the water area because i knew more than likely he was going to beat my favorite cars - i'm a chevy man since the get go.
Though i disliked his cars i always had an immense amount of respect for his driving and engine building abilities, that man worked hard to get all the success he achieved.
Bob was way ahead of everyone when it came to achieving flow numbers obviously by watching your video.
I remember when he would always cover up the intake area, even after a wreck.
Bob, bill grumpy and RMS could extract the most horsepower out of engines beyond everyone else.
Thanks for the great video.
Thanks so much. I have had a lot of Chevy guys here. Lots of respect mutually, because it not about the brand it’s about the man. What we as gear heads do to improve and develop our combinations. You are right, hardest working family in drag racing. Glad your here
I met Bob Glidden one time at Darlington SC . It was in the mid 80s. Nice man
Thanks for watching. Definitely there for the fans too.
Amazing Stuff!... Thanks for Sharing
I just watched that video again. Thanks. I still love that Pro Stock racing Bob Glidden. 🏁
Went to the Pro Drags in Seattle in the early 90's. Walked down to the head of the staging lanes right behind the next set of PS cars ready to go. A bunch of people standing there ahead of us. The next set of Pro Stockers leave the line with a tire grip screetch. The guy ahead of me swing his head around to keep from getting rocks in his eyes when the cars launch. Non other than the Champ Bob G, staring right back at me from about 3 feet. He gives me a sly wink and turns back around. Smart move swinging his head to keep from getting rocks in the eyes before his run. He was thinking of the BIG picture, always.
that is a great story, that is why he was "The Man", rip Bob G.
A bit more if one cares. Last seen The Champ at the 2008 Street Car SuperNats at The Strip in Vegas. He was there with his son Billy. Billy had prepped a nitrous BBF Mustang for Bob to run. That guy cut a .007 pass on one of his passes, and it was of course a Pro Tree!. Some call that a bad job of redlighting,,Lol!. I call it Bob Glidden experience. He went out early during Elims, but it was really cool to see him run again. Billy won Outlaw 10.5 with his Mickey Thompson backed PS car.@@DragBoss351Cleveland
@kh40yr always interested in these experiences. Dang it man almost perfect light. Thanks gain for sharing. More history on the way.
Awesome stuff
Used to drive by the residence and shop on a regular basis... every time I'd go to the go cart track in Whiteland.
Legend.
A hard, hard working legend.
I have pic from a couple of weeks ago. So cool to see, the two pipes coming out of the roof for the dyno.
Thanks Tim awesome info and pictures.
Once Bob started he didn't stop winning. He was the best Pro Stock driver and mechanic there ever was (in my opinion). I seen Bob run many times in IHRA at Bristol Tenn. How do you think Billy learned all he did. I'm not sure about his other son, but he was right there wrenching too. You talk about them covering the intake, but back then they were doing so much experimental work being done to to the intakes and the heads. All camps were doing it, and that is where all the power was coming from. Because once one team learned something to add a few HP then they all did it.That is why Pro Stock is so competitive. There isn't much room for improvement because the rules make them so close. So that is where your power comes from. Ronnie.
thanks Ronnie for taking the time to share your experience. You are so right. The most development in racing, to me was 70-82. It is amazing what was done by all manufactures. look at Mopar, they had data loggers in 71in the trunk of the motown missile. Thank you
I like your videos as they Jar memories that I have not been able to retrieve for a very long time , so, thank you very much for that.
Your most welcome David, glad you are here, appreciate that, have heard that from others, as they are being lost everyday. Preserved here at DragBoss Garage.
Tim the car on the ramp truck looks like a galaxie
I thought that too, I read that during research on a motor trend article. Those are the only pics I had. sharp eye.
You didn’t mention the exhaust plates. The trick was to mill 1 inch off the exhaust ports, put the plates on that straightened the port exit- as stock they have a bad dog-leg bend. By straightening the exit and making the bend downward with the headers instead of the head the exhaust was freed up allowing the trick intake to work.
Max, I have made complete videos on this. Watch this Max
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Bob was tge man. I’m a Chevy guy but always loved glidden. His futura and the 1st t bird will always be 2 of my favorite pro stocks. I got to see Bob run animal Jim at Cordova in the 80’s. It was epic
That must have been epic, AJ is the man too. My favorite was the 78 Fairmont...
Great driver! Great cars! Great video!😀😁🛠️
Hell yeah Billy, he was the man, the innovator, the racer, and was always there for his fans.
thank you for posting, i was only 9 at the time, but already a pru stock fan, i love these history lessons!
Thanks for watching. Glad you can relate. I first saw pro stock when I was 10. You got me.
WOW! Tim you have really out done yourself with this one!
So AWESOME! Love all these historic Gidden tid bits and details!
Figured you would enjoy this. Lots too see.
Very interesting Tim
I just built a boss cleveland engine and turned it into a 408 stroker full roller moter I have always thought that the cleveland was a great engine and after seeing these I'm glad I chose the engine and I built it for my 67 fairlane for a street rod you don't see many cars with a cleveland in them much anymore I wanted to be different thanks for the awesome video I used to have a model of the pinto years ago
Thanks John I appreciate you being here on my channel. And sharing your experience. You add some cubic inches to a cleveland and make those heads work watch out, deathly underestimated, but also peculiar to work with. Find the idiosyncrasies, and lock the power and hang the hell on
Keep up the good work. Bob was not playing any games!!!!!!!
Hell no! Rock n roll stay tuned J
That was excellent, enjoyed it 👍🏼🏁
Thank you mate, it all comes down to.....Cleveland's to the front.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland 👍🏼🏁........haha 💯
Today's drag racing fans may look upon those prostockers as being slow compared to today's prostockers but not to us who were fortunate enough to have witnessed these magnificent machines and their creators. Glidden, Grumpy, S&M, Wayne Gapp, Roy Hill, Dyno Don, Rehr and Morrison....the list goes on and on. God Bless em!
Hell Pete. I read it loud and clear. Amen. Great hearing your story. Thanks much
Pro Stock is a total joke today.
It sure is it like it used to be, I’ve been talking to Erica Enders , she will be on for a live chat. We can get her point of you, but they’re coming out some new classes this year. I want to say superstock x, but again all new cars thanks
My 79 429 powered Fairmont futura was inspired by Bob Glidden's Undefeated Fairmont. Along with Bill Elliott my biggest heroes.
Yep I love the 78 Fairmont the best.
Nobody accomplished more with less than Glidden, the working man's all time Champion.
Dam straight on that one. Thanks
Right on!Bob is one of the best
racers and reason I still run 4 barrel 351C '71 Torino 4.71 gear "N"9"spool 4-speed 7,000rpm 70,000miles on engine built in my basement with friend Ray in 1979 or so and it's never been apart since! The reason Bob built his engines on the floor was because he felt the engine,hanging on an engine stand,would cause the block to warp or distort!(I personally,always support the front of block with a steel fixture or 2 by 4 wood board).? There had to be something to it for him to build them that way.R.I.P. my friend and hero.
Glad to hear the ol Cleveland is still running. I never worried about the stand deal, but have heard that too.
I'm no ford guy, but I love videos like this, I wish it was longer, atleast 10 minutes, great work, I live in the past!
Glad you enjoyed it! I live in the past too, 1975, when I was ten..
What I liked about Bob is he always had time for his fans. R.I.P. Sir, we miss you.
He always took the time Richard. Race in peace
Fantastic video....
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Wow, I have always been a fan of the Cleveland engine. I was raised around them, my brothers have them in their cars and I have 4V Cleveland heads on a 400m, in my 1969 Mustang Fastback. This is very interesting info, thank-you for sharing.
Glad you got to see it, Appreciate you watching and commenting, way more to explore....
That's really different a 400 in a Mustang, my dad had one in a 80 F250 (not stock) and that thing could really move! How does your car perform?
@@mitchellyardanoff4666 not sure if he will answer back, but it can be a killer combo. Issues are bell housing, since it is 385 series pattern, the intake because of the 10.2 DH, and headers, all custom. They are really just a big Cleveland. Hope this helps.
Bob all I read about as a kid. Great video.
thank you, me too
Such cool peeks into the Glidden magic. I was a big fan of his in the 80's.
I was following him in 75, when i first saw drag racing. Thank you, glad you liked the inside scoop.
I love Fords and Bob was my guy back in the day..........
Thank my friend. Me too. My dad was a paratrooper in the 101st screaming eagles 🦅
Thanks for posting! I loved seeing those cars in the magazines back then. That car at the beginning is a 1965 Galaxie. The narrator mentioned Bob running 427 Fairlanes and Cobra Jet Mustangs, but didn't mention Galaxies. Anyway, it's great to ride down memory lane.
That was me. Missed it, the. When I realized it to much to try and fix so I left it lol. Glad you like it. More on the way
Thanks for another great collection of photos and videos of the Glidden family in action. The intake photos clearly show the extensive modifications that were necessary to work quite well with the rest of the Cleveland combination. The results weren’t very pretty to look at but the final results IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE made up for the lack of pleasing eye appeal. Gliddens critics still enjoy speculating about his reasons for concealing the induction system. Maybe he felt a little uncomfortable with how duct tape looked on a typically beautiful Cleveland engine ?
Another Cleveland specific item that’s visible in all of the photos are the aluminum exhaust port plates that are an integral part of the production cast iron heads “high port” conversion process. A expensive modification such as this wouldn’t be very practical for average street builds but for more radical builds back then AND now, I would consider it to be an essential modification for any Cleveland that uses OEM iron heads. The proof is in the classic videos showing Glidden pulling away from the competition on the big end. Or in the case of a rare hole shot on Glidden, he would catch and pass the competition by half track for the win 🏆.
No wonder BILL JENKINS was so GRUMPY 😉.
Thanks for pointing out the high port heads. It was all fun and games until the Cleveland showed up....
@@DragBoss351Cleveland …. I hope I didn’t oversimplify the high port heads. But the DBG has made many newcomers aware of the Cleveland experience and they might benefit the most by starting with the basics.
One thing is for sure, when the Clevelands hit the Pro Stock scene, all of the other competitors had to work much harder to EARN their runner-up trophies 🏆 😁.
@@danielwilson6665 Runner up Trophies, lol. In reality, all those racers that where the fastest worked their asses off. But the Cleveland, layed it down. It is tough to talk about the heads in another video, as I have done it already, I will think of something. Pro stock minute, I think was before the TR vid.
I believe the aluminum adapter plates were developed by Gapp and Rouch.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland …Despite my somewhat twisted sense of humor, I would have to give credit when it’s due. Pro Stock is one of the most difficult classes to be consistently competitive in. It truly is a team effort and not just all about having a great driver.
The class is also vastly different now than it was during the seventies when the driver was often the owner, engine builder, chassis and transmission guy. He could take credit for the the wins and the losses. Nowadays it’s run like a business and requires a team of specialists. The cost in dollars is staggering and having sponsors with deep pockets is often a requirement for a winning team.
Modern Pro Stock competitors still have to work their asses off. But I still prefer the glory years of Cleveland dominance and the other competitors got their asses handed to them along with their runner-up trophies 🏆 😁.
Great history..thanks again.
I knew The Hardy family, Don Hardy chassis, I went all access to the US Nat's from 1978 to 1993, and young Don was a good friend at the Nat's, my age, and we hung out the whole time every year. Now Don Jr. is a VERY accomplished custom engine builder! I grew up in my dad's Machine Shop, but not for me. Feel free to look up Don Hardy Race Engines, he's great!
Now that’s a pure pleasure memory, the days when things are much simpler. In the heat of the moment, you’re very lucky. I was only about 13 and 78 and we got to see it on TV occasionally. But it became ingrained in my mind, hence the quest. Yes I’ve talked to Don Hardy Junior before but he mentioned about a live chat so I don’t know much about him, I never knew he built engines. I’ll have to keep going and see if I can hook up with him thanks Obscura
Way cool footage Tim.cant get enough of that old cleveland stuff.can watch this stuff for hours.project 351c 90fox moving forward.balancing is next.keep you posted.
Very Cool Anthony, I talked to my wife, about coming to Vegas to check out the Shelby Museum. I even asked Darin Morgan. He liked it too. Hey you never know where it will go. Yes keep me/us posted with the build.
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The single diskike is from a W.J. fan 😆. Totally excellent documentary and thanks for the time to put this together. You rock!
Thanks Chad, appreciate your support here. Lots more in store
I got a pair of vintage 70 Cleveland, Roush cut exhaust hi-port plate heads. Bought from classifies in Super Ford magazine. I never used on a project
I may be interested. Shoot me an email Shon
I’m not a drag guy, or even a race guy, but I enjoyed this video. It’s cool to see how things started from a seemingly suburban personal garage with the whole family helping.
But your a car gut and that is what matters. Good to see behind the scenes
@@DragBoss351Cleveland my first car was a ‘67 Convertible Camaro. But it had a 230 six with a power glide. Ugh… but it looked cool as heck! Im really a biker (older Harleys). One day I’d like to pull the trigger on a 11 second or quicker V-twin bike. But with two kids in college, I’m a ways away from that. Either way, I enjoyed the Bob Glidden video
Thanks man. Had a 95WG Harley, it ran 12.99 sure miss it. Sounds cool the Camaro, time for another
I built a 71 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland when few were building this engine. We had the first and second set of Venolia pistons when the valve cutes on the first set were wrong. We had help from Earl Wade (Dyno Don's motor guru) with how the main oil passages need to be restricted and an external oil line run to keep oil in the bottom end. Moroso came out with a kit to do this a couple years later.
Thanks velvet for sharing your story with us. Earl Wade was another pioneer. I made a video on the oil mods, check it out, probably 20 vids back or so.
Very cool, such a legend. interesting to note the current sealed factory 5.0 class runs 9.0s at 150 in 3000lb cars. We have come along way, but it took guts from peeps like Glidden to pave the road.
Thanks so much for watching the video. Yeah that’s Hauling in a 3000 pound car. Glidden was way ahead of his time, as may others in the early pro stock years. Thanks
Ford Blue and true.
Bob was my favorite. Been playing with 302s for 40 years.😅
Mine too. Cleveland’s for 40 years here
Tim,
Great video - thank you! Ive been a Bob Glidden fan since the early 1970s.
Paul (in MA)
Thanks Paul from Maine. Me since mix 70s stay tuned
He was the Man we all looked up to . And still do
He will live on forever in racers minds. Thanks Denis, stay tuned.
Amazing video!!🏁🏁🏁
Look close and see what you can see in the pics
In the early seventies my dad built a model of Bob's red white and blue Pinto he gave it to him at the US Nationals and Bob gave him a picture of the car that was signed the picture was the size of a credit card and to this day my dad still carries it in his wallet my dad is 82 years old
Chris so cool to hear, I bet if I was smiling ear to ear. Thanks for sharing your memories stay tuned DBG for more BG memories
God damn that was enjoyable to watch. Especially the raw footage, that noise and launch is just awesome. Thanks alot for putting these together like this 🇦🇺👍
Your welcome Rick T, tried to make it look old, lol, guess I don't have to lol. More to come my friend
Bob was my hero. Great video Tim.
Thanks Tom, mine too
Took me back in time thank you sir, Bob was a legend
Glad you enjoyed it. Days we will never see again.
Bob Glidden was a pioneer of sorts. He did all of his own engine development and testing. That is what it takes. Ford helped with financing and that was it.
To tell you the truth Rondell, ford did not do hardly anything for Glidden, he did not get tons of cash or parts, that is the irony. Truly a pioneer and ahead of his time.
Very interesting, thanks.
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Absolutely Awesome Video! We really need some of Glidden's FE efforts. His time with everything 385 Series needs to be on video as well. The GM and Mopar camps for the sake of history please step up and speak to Tim.
I figure it will happen i due time I figure. I have so much to keep up with, lol Thanks Robert