@@woodysdrums8083 yup. I know some of the old guys at Buick that worked on parts for that motor. There was some interesting back room support from Buick. Have to ask Denny M about that next time I see him.
Buddy was waaaay ahead of the curve....Turbos were nothing new, but people forget just how effective they are. Buddy remembered and built that awesome Buick.
If that's your name and you have even the slightest hint of a southern accent, your a race car driver. There is nothing else you could possibly do with your life.
Ingersoll was an innovator, as he said himself. Had he been allowed to continue with his turbo v6, who knows where he would have taken it. Consider this, the best run ever recorded by a turbo v6 is 6.75 @ 205. This was in 2010, Len Freeman was driving. This car is a novelty only, the Buick turbo v6 is not run in any competition as far as I know. Had Buddy continued he would have been in the high 6s before the end of the 80's. Amazing.
@@erat91 I6 rather than v6 but Ekanoo racing did 5.97 @ 240 mph in a mk4 supra still running a 2JZ and supposedly is still on an original 90s block and head casting!!!
Vast improvement over just a few years before when the world was in black and white, and with a really crappy picture that would drift and roll and fade, sometimes looking like there was a blizzard going on.
One thing that has been almost forgotten after the success of Buddy's turbo V6 Pro Stocker is his earlier car. A low 10 second, 2 liter turbocharged AA/MC 4 cylinder Pinto. He and Ohio George Montgomery dominated the class in the mid to late 1970's, and inspired my Dad back then to give up traditional V8 powered drag race cars for a turbo Pinto that he built and raced for several years afterwards.
@@shortchange26 I will never forget the 87 T-Bird TC 5 speed my Mom had. 6300 rpm in 5th gear one January night on I-75 South through Cobb County Georgia to I-285 East heading to Mardi Gras on Powers Ferry Road. Just one flash of some blue lights at Windy Hill is all I saw. Didn't lift until the exit to 285.
@Adam Brier The tracks local to us were 1/8th mile. I think he ran around 7.80 to 7.85 pretty regularly. It was not a max effort car like the AA/MC cars were back then, but in the 1978/1979 time period it was pretty good for a 2 liter Pinto engine.
@@supertruckertom I had a 88 🙂🙂 11 miles n 5 min was my best when I stop to get my little brother the hole turbo ,manifold and down pipe flow n red great fun !!! That's a 137.5 mph average 🙃🙃🙃 sold me on turbos!!! I have had Buick turbo car and build a bunch more fun fun ones buddy I have pictures of my son @ 5 In mark Mickey/ jason Carter blue Malibu n my shop n 2001 @ the time it had a 393/18 deg with twin 88 with a liberty!!! finally took out the bench seat for the funny car cage in it after joby beat gullet in the final in Orlando fun fun memories
Ingersoll & Glidden; two class acts. The car of Ingersoll's that I remember most is his turbo Pinto that ran in modified eliminator. Hated it when NHRA did away with modified eliminator. As far as I'm concerned, the NHRA is so political & way to expensive to even attend anymore.
I have way more fun at local test and tune nights anymore. Real grassroots racing devoid of much of what you mentioned, while full of action and great people.
@@joshuagibson2520 @William Sanders A lot of local strips are getting shut down now because of new housing developments being built up around them complaining about the noise.
I agree with you Roger 150 percent! Tje modified eliminator class of cars wss like know other? A friend of mine had the belly button 1969 camaro! But in seattle at the fall nationals back in the late 70's early 80's he ran against Mr Ingersol and lost 2nd round! A 396 chevy losing to his turbo pinto! That pinto was impresive, and very quick and fast! We got a chance to look it over and and over. And they could'nt be nicer! A true class act the Ingersols! At the same race their was a 73 maxda rotary out of oregon running in the same class! I miss mod elim for that fact the differant types of cars!
Too expensive to attend? It's the cheapest form of professional motorsport to attend as a fan. In 2021 $50 got you an all access ticket with a grandstand seat at Norwalk. $50 would only get you a general admission ticket to the Indycar race at Mid-Ohio, and that definitely did not include a grandstand seat, or pit access. Let's not even get started talking about the $1,000 GENERAL ADMISSION tickets to the Miami GP, or the $650 general admission tickets to the USGP at COTA. I agree with all your other points, but NHRA is by far the most accessible motorsport in the world. Or at least in the US.
except BMW, Ford and all those companies were at the pinnacle of technology with unlimited money to invest. The dude drag racing in this video probably didn't have a whole lot at his disposal compared to massive companies.
@@ChiefStyn Exactly. This isn't a "works" car on nearly the same level as F1 or even WRC. The fact that they made this work and work as well as it did is an amazing feat.
Considering Henry Ford invented the Charcoal Briquet, in 1920 or thereabouts...... 60 years, from Charcoal Briquet, to Turbo V6. It only makes scents, much like the Kitchen @ The Regal Beagle. Three's Company, ended, in 1984. Close, enough.
I remember these days like it was yesterday. The Buick V6 twin turbo was like alien technology. The Bob Glidden T bird is one of my favorite race cars.
@@jareknowak8712 the context matters. Drag Racing in America in the early 1980s was big motors without turbos. You can talk trash on the US, and it really doesn’t matter.
I did engine build and development on that engine at Mclaren Engines in Livonia Michigan and I can tell you there was a lot of power left on the table. It was a very impressive motor and Buddy was a impressive guy. I was lucky and built a lot of Indy Buick v6 engines...
I envy you! I grew up in Livonia and my dream was to work for Mclaren building engines! Unfortunately, that didn't happen. Although, I did spend time working for Roush as a prototype technician for the Dodge Dakotas & Durangos (late 90's).
Damn, all you with the man crush on Bob seem to ignore the fact that he was also a cheater. He was being nice trying not to draw too much attention to himself probably because he was spraying nitros on the big end in order to get around that turbo car.
@Cristopher Reeves But he's not wrong. Glidden was the only competitive Ford. Wonder why? And his son admittedly used nitrous....supposedly to prove that it could be done and others were doing it.
I remember when the Grand National came out, they would bring them to the drag strip and out run the guys with thousands of dollars and hours in their cars. It sure did piss a lot of people off at the drag strip.
Mike Smith in all fairness the syclones killed anything as long as the race didn’t support getting over 140mph and you didn’t have to turn. I love those little trucks too but they do have the areo of a brick.
No shit about it the Buick grand national V6 was very fast and tons of torque but for every day use the high temperatures made it a extremely high maintenance vehicle and not practical for a grocery getter and the turbo requires a little bit of special attention as not to faul out the plugs and over load the cylinders it's made to run and that's how it performs
@@sillygoose2508 The Buick V6 a well proven, very reliable engine stock and modified. The majority of the Buick guys knew what they were doing and were the pioneers of the modern day tuner. The first real competition finally came along in '04 when Ford supercharged the Mustang Cobra. In the late 80's old ladies were taking these and Regal T Types to supermarkets and bingo halls everywhere. It was actually very civilized until you got about half way into the throttle,then it was an ax wielding barbarian. Trouble came when some folks ignored the high octane fuel requirement. None of mine ever ran over 180 unless the radiator was dirty, heat really wasn't an issue. I have owned and driven them since '89 on long trips from NY to NC with no problems with AC and 27ish MPG. 114 mph trap speeds with the stock long block too.
@@turbobuicksix turbo's or turbines actually work very well with diesel applications a fuel that has a lower flash point don't get me wrong and I'm not knocking the car but it's a proven fact that the life expectancy of a gas engine that has high temperature exhaust charging the turbine can lead to oil break down and premature wear of existing components under the hood sure there's some cars out there but for the most part it's not a feasible option for the every day grocery getter and the general public wouldn't be content with the intense service aspect trust and believe if the manufacturers could boost the horsepower out of a smaller engine and maintain the reliability and overall life expectancy you would see a lot more turbo charged engines out there and one more thing there brutal on lite weight aluminum castings such as heads
even though these are dated old clips, it looks so cool, there was a relatable nature to it they had real cars doing crazy speeds making f&f seem real after it came out.
My dad saw something with a turbo v6 run a 200 mile a hour pass. The guy instantly got kicked off the track. My dad was so impressed with that guy. I think my dad wants to do the same..
Aerodynamics are huge. Leroy is the antithesis of aerodynamic lol. Ruby is a bracket race car so she doesn't need to go any faster than 8.5 seconds as of right now
Can't help but believe he laid down the ground work for all the turbos that not only comes on new vehicles but hot rods also. He proved you didn't need a big block to run with them and beat them.
It "could" so much that it outran the Corvette during its years of production. An amazing feat, but sadly it's demise. Chevy is the reason for the Grand National being 86'd, they just weren't going to have a V6 beating their prized Corvette.
I grew up and still live down the road from Buddy Ingersoll and my uncle and aunt live directly across the street from Buddy Ingersolls garage where he built his race car's in Zeigler, Illinois. I knew Buddy very well and I've seen every drag car he's built/owned since mid 1960's. I asked Buddy back in 1997 about this particular race at Bristol Motor Speedway in 1986 against Bob Glidden in the finals and remember, these cars were manual 4 speed transmissions. Buddy told me that he burned the clutch out on his Buick V6 the round before the finals against Ricky Smith and if he wouldn't have Giddens Ass would have been had also. Buddy had no reason to B.S myself and he never did, he was telling me the truth. Buddy Ingersoll was a very talented man and yes, Buddy was a innovater. Mark Ingersoll, whom is Buddy's Son is a head crew chief over Elite Motor Sports in NHRA Pro Stock Class and Erica Enders is 1 of their drivers. Mark Ingersoll is a very talented individual as this teams NHRA Pro Stock Championships speak for themselves. Buddy Ingersoll - R.I.P my friend!
I remember this and I was a kid at the time. I could be wrong but I think he submerged the inter coolers in liquid nitrogen. Ahead of his time is a HUGE understatement. He’s still a legend to me 🤟🏻🏁
"It only takes one Ford to put a hundred Chevys back on the trailer."-Bob Glidden. That right there is why I've always been a Ford racing fan and you can add Ferrari and Porsche to that list too. RIP Bob. Thanks for repping the Blue Oval all those decades with absolute class.
What's that? Turbos? This was it then it disappears forever. Forced induction is cheating in a class for NA engines. There were plenty of classes for that car. Pro Stock wasn't one of them
imagine that same buick with modern turbos. same boost same everything just not caveman turbos since they went undeveloped and under utilized for another 20 years. that thing would have smoked that whole event. thats pretty impressive how close he came to winning it anyways with what he had at the time.
@Tommy Damron Nowadays even a front wheel drive 4-banger goes faster than these, with all possibilities unlocked by current technology. In Brazil, the top teams are almost going under 7 seconds with late 60s projects, all original steel body, and stock block and heads of 4.1 inline 6, no wheelie bar allowed!
@Jr ALEXANDER Comparing 1982 to 2019 is a really steep hill, but your disbelief is massive. See with your own eyes. ua-cam.com/video/miENduXJivI/v-deo.html
Its honestly crazy how in 1986 everyone was amazed at a turbo car running 7.3 in a quarter and now turbo i6 and v6 cars are running 6s in a quarter. Technology and knowledge have come a long way in just 34 years
Buddy was a hero of sorts to the Buick community back in the day. That Buick was running a "mean buzzin' half dozen" under the hood. Those were great races. I remember them well.
I remember watching buddy Ingersoll race his cars. in an interview, he said he was running 125 psi of boost! how the hell he kept the cylinder heads on that engine is beyond me!
Ah i didn't know he passed. Ive always been a wj fan, n always loathed seeing his name, but man, thsts a shame, he was part of the greatest years of pro stock imo
@@colehara, yes sir, he was... this Hoosier got to meet him a couple times back in the day. All these guys were class acts... something people today could learn from.
Learn something new everyday. (Or maybe relearn?) been watching drag racing since 1970, loved those old pro stock mopars. But don’t remember Buddy’s Buick with the turbo small block. Thanks for the history lesson 👍🏻😎
Didn't last long. Forced induction was banned and should've never been allowed in Pro Stock. You want to run FE?, there were plenty of classes for that.
I remember watching this when it happened, well on TV Live might not have been a thing back then. I got into an argument, with my dad over this car. He kept saying the turbo was cheating. I was like #1. He has less than 40% of the cu. in. of the v8 pro stocks, he needs the turbo's to compensate. and #2. The name of the class is Pro Stock, Name one car in the 1980's that comes factory with a 500- 700 cu. in engine, much less a big block of any size. The Buick Regals were coming with a turbo V6, since the late 70's i think Edit, someone in my comments said i had misestimated, by NHRA standards it's actually slightly over 50%, But using the biggest legal engine at the time (IHRA 700 cu in Mountain motors), I took the 268 divided it by the 700 To come up with .382, move the decimal 2 places (38.2%) and rounded up you get 40% so my math (yes simple math) stands
@bigpigslapper Oink, I divided the 268 by 700 and came up with .382. moved the decimal 2 places and rounded up from that to get the 40%. Hence why i said 40% of the 700 cu in V8's. Percentages are not hard even with basic math
1st of all my hats off to the racers for being humble and lifting up their fellow rivals for being worthy opponents that deserved to be there instead of trash talking..and 2nd of all, i worked in king n.c. when i was 18 years old at my brother in laws sporting goods store called barrys sporting goods..and back then, king was way smaller then it is now..but i dont recall hearing of ricky smith..heck..maybe i saw him around and maybe even talked to him..i dont know..never the less cool old video tho..thanks.
I remember seeing Ingersoll in the mid 80's here at Suffolk Virginia Raceway. I recall hearing the burnout thinking it wasnt a V8 sound. I went to the pits to have a look. I raced a bike there so it kind a raised my interest. Back then there were no ropes or barriers to keep you away from the cars, you could walk right up and have a close look. At Ingersoll's car, it was just him with the hood up. I have a few pics somewhere. You should check out Ohio George Montgomery's 429 twin turbo mustang from 10 years earlier, along with his twin turbo Mustang funny car. A true innovator.
Buick was changing minds in the 80s. They were running v6 engines in Nascar also and winning with them. And who can forget the fastest production car in the 80s was the Buick regal gnx with that turbo v6.
@@Disablednoob I mean a 7.3? Something like that vs basically a 3800? So that one or 2 turbos were basically doubling an engine Edit twin turbo vs 700 CI so I think way more than 7.3 liter
Everything street is crap. Turbos are engine killers and will keep you broke forever replacing parts. Turbo engines never last long. They should've never gone to them but EPA regulations forced the power out and the weight on to their little 4-cylinders and this was the quick fix.
Back in the day, I built a 229 Chevy. Made my own 4bbl intake, thanks to an article in Hot Rod mag that featured Smokey's work on them, did all my own porting, had a custom ground cam, headers, pink rods and flat tops, that thing was a beast on pump gas. Stuffed it in an '81 Olds Starfire hatchback.
Buddy ingersoll was a guy bob glidden, rick smith etc. all complained that buddy was running a power adder (only car) and everybody else were all motor did not like the fact buddy had a leg up on everybody............ I remember watching these guys racing at the winter nationals and the finals IN CALIFORNIA back in the 80;s the best time to watch PRO STOCK....
Bob was a great man! I use to root for him when he raced! He always gave props to his rivals and never talked bad about anyone! Bob we salute you for the man you are! Thanks for always being a great guy! We still miss you in pro stock! May the heavens grant you that fastest pass into heaven my friend!
That buick motor is the best motor that has ever come out of the U.S.A. Lead to the 3800 being in millions of cars. Absolutely LOVE them. I'm building my own twin turbo buick v6 right now in a pontiac grand prix gtp.
I'm going to disagree. It was a good motor, but the best? I think the Windsor block Ford motor might have something to say about that. 😏 289/302/351 some of the most buildable, iconic power plants with an outstanding reputation everywhere from the farm to the track.
Glidden ran a 630 inch engine. It was the smallest V8 in mountain motor competition. The V6 turbo was an experimental car let in for a season then outlawed soon afterwards. Bob Glidden was the ONLY one that had the power to drive around this turbocharged charged car. Pro stock is s very competitive class and usually had the cars run within a couple of hundredths of a second between the 16 car field. Just qualifying is extremely hard and cars normally enter the traps almost side by side but Bob would gap his competition by 2-3 car lengths. If he hadn’t had health issues he would still be winning. No one has brought more innovation and winning experience in drag racing than Bob. I talked to him last at Red River raceway close to Shreveport. He was sitting on the first stand level and recognized me from the Cajun Nationals where i met him first in the early 80s. The knowledge that he had was incredible and when he passed he took a lot of it with him. He drove his own car and did all the research and development and engine building. These Pro Stock guys and gals better be glad he is not still running!
1986 when microphones and moustaches were equal adversaries!
The trifecta of male grooming in that time period is a mullet parted in the middle whilst sporting a pornstache.
@@leehilliard6551 I'm making a hair appointment as we speak.
They've been replaced by stubbly beards and cell phones. LOL
I've been growing a mustache since I was 12, 2 years later I have one with a parted mullet, God bless racing by the way
bwahahahahahahahahaha
The only pro stock running an engine that could have come stock in the car.
even that is far more radical than any v6 a stock car would have come with back then
Alex Fitzpatric Buick gnx.
Actually that is a stage 2 block not the production 109 casting in the buick regal.
Um the Boss 429 mate , even now some mountain motor pro stocks use 4.9 inch(stock BBF) bore spacing, so you are wrong
@@woodysdrums8083 yup. I know some of the old guys at Buick that worked on parts for that motor. There was some interesting back room support from Buick. Have to ask Denny M about that next time I see him.
Buddy was waaaay ahead of the curve....Turbos were nothing new, but people forget just how effective they are. Buddy remembered and built that awesome Buick.
Turbochargers weren't "new", but the 80s was the first time they were really viable in competition without F1 money.
Um yeah they were new when it came to production cars....
turbosix actually the first production turbocharged car was the 1962 Oldsmobile Cutlass Jetfire
@@patrickmartin3322 I never said it was the first. I said turbos were new.
turbosix they weren’t new tho, that what Patrick said. There were plenty of European cars through the 70’s also.
If your named Ricky, Buddy or Bobby , your destiny is to be a racer
Ricky "Buddy" Bobby
"He's got 3 first names."
If that's your name and you have even the slightest hint of a southern accent, your a race car driver. There is nothing else you could possibly do with your life.
Or an Uncle Daddy
Or Donnie
Or Dale
Anybody else catch the parachute blowing out on the Ricky Smith mustang?
Yup pretty scary but I guess he got it slowed down without crashing
Nope just you and the guy that's scared.
I did , they cut it off rite after that
Yeah I was hoping they would show him getting it stopped lol.
Yah. Back when i was 4 i caught it
Who else got recommended this several years later😑😂🤦♂️
Me
Yyyyup
Same lol
Just now😂
You guys must watch cleeter mcsceeter too
Ingersoll was an innovator, as he said himself. Had he been allowed to continue with his turbo v6, who knows where he would have taken it. Consider this, the best run ever recorded by a turbo v6 is 6.75 @ 205. This was in 2010, Len Freeman was driving. This car is a novelty only, the Buick turbo v6 is not run in any competition as far as I know. Had Buddy continued he would have been in the high 6s before the end of the 80's. Amazing.
What's crazy is i6 cars are running 590s low 6s nowadays
I know Gidi did 6.5x at 225 in his gtr. Anyone know of a faster v6 today?
@@erat91 I6 rather than v6 but Ekanoo racing did 5.97 @ 240 mph in a mk4 supra still running a 2JZ and supposedly is still on an original 90s block and head casting!!!
@@Woodie-xq1ew they also went 5.77 in a pro mod style FRS with a 2jz
@@kylelaughinghouse1893 venemenum is already in the 5.55 range
For you kids watching this today, these fuzzy faded picture isnt from old video, this is how things looked in the 80s and it was great.
Vast improvement over just a few years before when the world was in black and white, and with a really crappy picture that would drift and roll and fade, sometimes looking like there was a blizzard going on.
I was there, everything seems normal to me 👌
Imagine what an incredible tuner he must have been to be pumping that much air through a v6 with 1980s tech, without melting it down.
Blowthru carbs work
Actually not much tuning at all. Jet the carbs, make sure the turbos don't leak and send it.
@@hughjass1835 people still to this day melt down engines all the time trying make that kind of power. The guy knew his shit
@@tokeypokeyYes. I have a 1050 dominator I'm about to have converted for blow thru by Kevin at CSU.
He ran a mechanical fuel injection setup with a stickshift 5 speed. Yeah he was a genius.
Ol Bob mit have been smiling.....but he wasent going to let that happen 👌👌👍👍
One thing that has been almost forgotten after the success of Buddy's turbo V6 Pro Stocker is his earlier car. A low 10 second, 2 liter turbocharged AA/MC 4 cylinder Pinto. He and Ohio George Montgomery dominated the class in the mid to late 1970's, and inspired my Dad back then to give up traditional V8 powered drag race cars for a turbo Pinto that he built and raced for several years afterwards.
And don't forget the Thunderbird SC.
@@shortchange26 I will never forget the 87 T-Bird TC 5 speed my Mom had.
6300 rpm in 5th gear one January night on I-75 South through Cobb County Georgia to I-285 East heading to Mardi Gras on Powers Ferry Road.
Just one flash of some blue lights at Windy Hill is all I saw. Didn't lift until the exit to 285.
@Adam Brier The tracks local to us were 1/8th mile. I think he ran around 7.80 to 7.85 pretty regularly. It was not a max effort car like the AA/MC cars were back then, but in the 1978/1979 time period it was pretty good for a 2 liter Pinto engine.
Yes sir
@@supertruckertom I had a 88 🙂🙂 11 miles n 5 min was my best when I stop to get my little brother the hole turbo ,manifold and down pipe flow n red great fun !!! That's a 137.5 mph average 🙃🙃🙃 sold me on turbos!!! I have had Buick turbo car and build a bunch more fun fun ones buddy I have pictures of my son @ 5
In mark Mickey/ jason Carter blue Malibu n my shop n 2001 @ the time it had a 393/18 deg with twin 88 with a liberty!!! finally took out the bench seat for the funny car cage in it after joby beat gullet in the final in Orlando fun fun memories
Ingersoll & Glidden; two class acts. The car of Ingersoll's that I remember most is his turbo Pinto that ran in modified eliminator. Hated it when NHRA did away with modified eliminator. As far as I'm concerned, the NHRA is so political & way to expensive to even attend anymore.
Yeah thankfully things like Hot Rod Drag Week and Race Week is a thing, so the average guy can scrape his money together and run the 12s class
I have way more fun at local test and tune nights anymore. Real grassroots racing devoid of much of what you mentioned, while full of action and great people.
@@joshuagibson2520 @William Sanders A lot of local strips are getting shut down now because of new housing developments being built up around them complaining about the noise.
I agree with you Roger 150 percent! Tje modified eliminator class of cars wss like know other? A friend of mine had the belly button 1969 camaro! But in seattle at the fall nationals back in the late 70's early 80's he ran against Mr Ingersol and lost 2nd round! A 396 chevy losing to his turbo pinto! That pinto was impresive, and very quick and fast! We got a chance to look it over and and over. And they could'nt be nicer! A true class act the Ingersols! At the same race their was a 73 maxda rotary out of oregon running in the same class! I miss mod elim for that fact the differant types of cars!
Too expensive to attend? It's the cheapest form of professional motorsport to attend as a fan. In 2021 $50 got you an all access ticket with a grandstand seat at Norwalk. $50 would only get you a general admission ticket to the Indycar race at Mid-Ohio, and that definitely did not include a grandstand seat, or pit access. Let's not even get started talking about the $1,000 GENERAL ADMISSION tickets to the Miami GP, or the $650 general admission tickets to the USGP at COTA. I agree with all your other points, but NHRA is by far the most accessible motorsport in the world. Or at least in the US.
That's insane for 1980's tech.
Right, i want to know how they tuned it and what was used.
If you think that's insane, wait til you look at the 1000+hp Single Turbo Inline 4's and Twin Turbo V6's in F1 qualifying trims.
except BMW, Ford and all those companies were at the pinnacle of technology with unlimited money to invest. The dude drag racing in this video probably didn't have a whole lot at his disposal compared to massive companies.
@@ChiefStyn Exactly. This isn't a "works" car on nearly the same level as F1 or even WRC. The fact that they made this work and work as well as it did is an amazing feat.
Considering Henry Ford invented the Charcoal Briquet, in 1920 or thereabouts...... 60 years, from Charcoal Briquet, to Turbo V6. It only makes scents, much like the Kitchen @ The Regal Beagle. Three's Company, ended, in 1984. Close, enough.
I Was There with the crowd Cheering over Buddy and his V/6 Buick!
Yes sir I was right there in 1986 Bristol fall nationals myself!!! It was my first IHRA event. We had pit passes!!!!
Back when NASCAR and NHRA were accessible to the common man.
I stood beside Buddys car as he tuned it in the pits at this 1986 fall nationals Bristol race, I was 12 years old and loved it!!!
those days are long gone.......and so are the fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rather watch a guy wrench his own stuff at the local track.
'Seat of the pants' racing. No computers. Long gone. 😥
And new vehicles
You can still race if have a job
I remember these days like it was yesterday. The Buick V6 twin turbo was like alien technology. The Bob Glidden T bird is one of my favorite race cars.
Haha America is a simple place, a V6 turbo was alien tech 🤣
@@Emira_75 this was in 1986 Einstein.
@@dozer1642
You know what engines BMW had in 1986?
@@jareknowak8712 the context matters. Drag Racing in America in the early 1980s was big motors without turbos. You can talk trash on the US, and it really doesn’t matter.
I did engine build and development on that engine at Mclaren Engines in Livonia Michigan and I can tell you there was a lot of power left on the table. It was a very impressive motor and Buddy was a impressive guy. I was lucky and built a lot of Indy Buick v6 engines...
I envy you! I grew up in Livonia and my dream was to work for Mclaren building engines! Unfortunately, that didn't happen. Although, I did spend time working for Roush as a prototype technician for the Dodge Dakotas & Durangos (late 90's).
Would love to read about your history.
Even the N/A engines were awesome 👍
What a gentleman Bob Glidden is.
Right?!
I haven’t watched drag racing since Bob raced. He was a true gentleman.
And always will be.
Damn, all you with the man crush on Bob seem to ignore the fact that he was also a cheater. He was being nice trying not to draw too much attention to himself probably because he was spraying nitros on the big end in order to get around that turbo car.
@Cristopher Reeves But he's not wrong. Glidden was the only competitive Ford. Wonder why?
And his son admittedly used nitrous....supposedly to prove that it could be done and others were doing it.
I remember when the Grand National came out, they would bring them to the drag strip and out run the guys with thousands of dollars and hours in their cars. It sure did piss a lot of people off at the drag strip.
And then came the syclones that spanked the grand nationals. I own typhoon number 341.
Mike Smith in all fairness the syclones killed anything as long as the race didn’t support getting over 140mph and you didn’t have to turn. I love those little trucks too but they do have the areo of a brick.
That cyclone was nasty also I think it still holds the fastest 0-60 time for a factory production truck
William Chapman probably. Only thing that should be faster would be a lightning or a Viper V10 ram
Tyler Wiedenfeld from the resources I’ve gathered the cyclone was 0-60 in 4.3 sec the ram viper 4.8sec the ford raptor 5sec
There's a reason the Grand National was the fastest production car in the US in 87.
No shit about it the Buick grand national V6 was very fast and tons of torque but for every day use the high temperatures made it a extremely high maintenance vehicle and not practical for a grocery getter and the turbo requires a little bit of special attention as not to faul out the plugs and over load the cylinders it's made to run and that's how it performs
My father inlaw just sold his. He was the only owner. Bought it off the car carrier.
@@sumdumguy2648 I'm sure he got a decent penny for it
@@sillygoose2508 The Buick V6 a well proven, very reliable engine stock and modified. The majority of the Buick guys knew what they were doing and were the pioneers of the modern day tuner. The first real competition finally came along in '04 when Ford supercharged the Mustang Cobra. In the late 80's old ladies were taking these and Regal T Types to supermarkets and bingo halls everywhere. It was actually very civilized until you got about half way into the throttle,then it was an ax wielding barbarian. Trouble came when some folks ignored the high octane fuel requirement. None of mine ever ran over 180 unless the radiator was dirty, heat really wasn't an issue. I have owned and driven them since '89 on long trips from NY to NC with no problems with AC and 27ish MPG. 114 mph trap speeds with the stock long block too.
@@turbobuicksix turbo's or turbines actually work very well with diesel applications a fuel that has a lower flash point don't get me wrong and I'm not knocking the car but it's a proven fact that the life expectancy of a gas engine that has high temperature exhaust charging the turbine can lead to oil break down and premature wear of existing components under the hood sure there's some cars out there but for the most part it's not a feasible option for the every day grocery getter and the general public wouldn't be content with the intense service aspect trust and believe if the manufacturers could boost the horsepower out of a smaller engine and maintain the reliability and overall life expectancy you would see a lot more turbo charged engines out there and one more thing there brutal on lite weight aluminum castings such as heads
I love the Buick v6. Such a great engine
Until they put it in a range Rover, not sure how they fucked it up, but they definitely did
even though these are dated old clips, it looks so cool, there was a relatable nature to it they had real cars doing crazy speeds making f&f seem real after it came out.
The IHRA was so underrated.
They had all the toys we wanted to see.
My dad saw something with a turbo v6 run a 200 mile a hour pass. The guy instantly got kicked off the track. My dad was so impressed with that guy. I think my dad wants to do the same..
Those 3.8 Buick motors are friggin bulletproof
That's Stage 2 V6 stuff that came out of the Busch Series
cleetus can't get a 7 with ruby or leroy it seems. how tf did this guy almost run a 6 with a v6?
Big tire vs small tire
Aerodynamics are huge. Leroy is the antithesis of aerodynamic lol. Ruby is a bracket race car so she doesn't need to go any faster than 8.5 seconds as of right now
Leroy has ran a mid 7 lol
Leroy is a small tire stick car. If cleetus went big tire with an auto he could probably get into the 6s being able to run more boost.
In 1986 mind you. Cleetus wasn’t even a glint in his parents eyes at that point.
Now there's more turbochargers than N/A
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Buddy Ingersoll was a top builder and fabercater he could make enything he touched go real fast
Never another era like this in Motorsports, absolutely the pinnacle in the golden age of motorsports.
Man back in the day NHRA was amazing
This is not an NHRA event. In the 80s, IHRA was running Pro stock Mountain motor class. NHRA Pro stock was limited 500 cid.
Can't help but believe he laid down the ground work for all the turbos that not only comes on new vehicles but hot rods also. He proved you didn't need a big block to run with them and beat them.
The world wasn't ready....
Bob Glidden such a humble man..... he was the best in those days nobody could beat that 351 Clevland Ford Engine
When pro stock was actually interesting
Talk about two legends of racing. Bob and Buddy.
This was my first drag race!!!! I remember all of it!!!!
And V6 would go on to become the most versatile and popular engine off all time. 🖤
The birth of the Grand National GNX the little V6 that could!
It "could" so much that it outran the Corvette during its years of production. An amazing feat, but sadly it's demise. Chevy is the reason for the Grand National being 86'd, they just weren't going to have a V6 beating their prized Corvette.
This is probably one of the coolest videos ive ever seen
Respect to Ingersoll who was ahead of his time
Man I miss Bob Jenkins. Dude was a master behind the microphone
The day v6 ruled the world!❤
I grew up and still live down the road from Buddy Ingersoll and my uncle and aunt live directly across the street from Buddy Ingersolls garage where he built his race car's in Zeigler, Illinois. I knew Buddy very well and I've seen every drag car he's built/owned since mid 1960's. I asked Buddy back in 1997 about this particular race at Bristol Motor Speedway in 1986 against Bob Glidden in the finals and remember, these cars were manual 4 speed transmissions. Buddy told me that he burned the clutch out on his Buick V6 the round before the finals against Ricky Smith and if he wouldn't have Giddens Ass would have been had also. Buddy had no reason to B.S myself and he never did, he was telling me the truth. Buddy Ingersoll was a very talented man and yes, Buddy was a innovater. Mark Ingersoll, whom is Buddy's Son is a head crew chief over Elite Motor Sports in NHRA Pro Stock Class and Erica Enders is 1 of their drivers. Mark Ingersoll is a very talented individual as this teams NHRA Pro Stock Championships speak for themselves. Buddy Ingersoll - R.I.P my friend!
This guy wants a cookie, anyone got a cookie?
A course the Buick Gran National made a statement.
Never get tired of watching these guys race.
I remember this and I was a kid at the time. I could be wrong but I think he submerged the inter coolers in liquid nitrogen. Ahead of his time is a HUGE understatement. He’s still a legend to me 🤟🏻🏁
Little did they know how prophetic it was of turbochargers future
"It only takes one Ford to put a hundred Chevys back on the trailer."-Bob Glidden.
That right there is why I've always been a Ford racing fan and you can add Ferrari and Porsche to that list too.
RIP Bob. Thanks for repping the Blue Oval all those decades with absolute class.
Street cars are running what pro stock cars of the 80s were running. Wow! How times have changed.
What's that? Turbos? This was it then it disappears forever. Forced induction is cheating in a class for NA engines. There were plenty of classes for that car. Pro Stock wasn't one of them
imagine that same buick with modern turbos. same boost same everything just not caveman turbos since they went undeveloped and under utilized for another 20 years. that thing would have smoked that whole event. thats pretty impressive how close he came to winning it anyways with what he had at the time.
@Tommy Damron Nowadays even a front wheel drive 4-banger goes faster than these, with all possibilities unlocked by current technology. In Brazil, the top teams are almost going under 7 seconds with late 60s projects, all original steel body, and stock block and heads of 4.1 inline 6, no wheelie bar allowed!
Edu G. J. No
@Jr ALEXANDER Comparing 1982 to 2019 is a really steep hill, but your disbelief is massive. See with your own eyes. ua-cam.com/video/miENduXJivI/v-deo.html
@@Robyne_u61 Check it again. I put a link so you can confirm what I said.
You do realize that mountain motor pro stocks now run like 6.3’s @ 225mph now too right. Technology has helped both for sure.
Was very fortunate to have gotten to know Buddy, nicest man ever!
He had them boys running scared for a minute
What a great piece of racing history.
6cyl cars should get back in the pro stock game💪👍
Its honestly crazy how in 1986 everyone was amazed at a turbo car running 7.3 in a quarter and now turbo i6 and v6 cars are running 6s in a quarter. Technology and knowledge have come a long way in just 34 years
i6's are now 5.55 and i4 is now on 5.95 and V6 is at 6.04
The 30 yrs before that video was the staggering advancements, and the change of perception of what was thought as fast.
I Really Enjoyed the video... I have Professional experience with the Buick Grand Nationals. Very close racing. Thanks for Sharing
Buddy was a hero of sorts to the Buick community back in the day. That Buick was running a "mean buzzin' half dozen" under the hood. Those were great races. I remember them well.
I remember watching buddy Ingersoll race his cars. in an interview, he said he was running 125 psi of boost! how the hell he kept the cylinder heads on that engine is beyond me!
same way most people did weld the heads to the block
wouldn't doubt if it had some spot welds
Stage 2 block and heads it can handle lots of boost.
@@precesionnoreaster1507 You're kidding me, right? Man, I been wrenching for almost 20 years, and I've never heard of that. That's pretty wild!
Look up dry deck blocks. It's an old school way of running bug boost
RIP Bob Glidden. You are the GOAT! 😎
Ah i didn't know he passed. Ive always been a wj fan, n always loathed seeing his name, but man, thsts a shame, he was part of the greatest years of pro stock imo
Bob Glidden was not only a great racer but a very nice guy as well.
@@colehara, yes sir, he was... this Hoosier got to meet him a couple times back in the day. All these guys were class acts... something people today could learn from.
Amazing stuff for 1986. Love a quick six.
Learn something new everyday. (Or maybe relearn?) been watching drag racing since 1970, loved those old pro stock mopars. But don’t remember Buddy’s Buick with the turbo small block. Thanks for the history lesson 👍🏻😎
Didn't last long. Forced induction was banned and should've never been allowed in Pro Stock. You want to run FE?, there were plenty of classes for that.
These are ALL names I haven't heard in a very long time.
Good to see them again.
Buddy’s car was so bad ass. I got to see it at maple grove. Shame it never ran a full schedule
I love Kepner's voice. Just a good announcer voice.
I remember watching this when it happened, well on TV Live might not have been a thing back then. I got into an argument, with my dad over this car. He kept saying the turbo was cheating. I was like
#1. He has less than 40% of the cu. in. of the v8 pro stocks, he needs the turbo's to compensate.
and
#2. The name of the class is Pro Stock, Name one car in the 1980's that comes factory with a 500- 700 cu. in engine, much less a big block of any size. The Buick Regals were coming with a turbo V6, since the late 70's i think
Edit, someone in my comments said i had misestimated, by NHRA standards it's actually slightly over 50%, But using the biggest legal engine at the time (IHRA 700 cu in Mountain motors), I took the 268 divided it by the 700 To come up with .382, move the decimal 2 places (38.2%) and rounded up you get 40% so my math (yes simple math) stands
@bigpigslapper Oink
This little piggy knows math
@bigpigslapper Oink
Like half a millisecond 🖕😂🖕
@bigpigslapper Oink, I divided the 268 by 700 and came up with .382. moved the decimal 2 places and rounded up from that to get the 40%. Hence why i said 40% of the 700 cu in V8's. Percentages are not hard even with basic math
@bigpigslapper Oink It's not 40%, but as the said, it's a bit over 38% and you round it up to 40, since 38 is almost 40.
The irony is that I'm finding out it was the other dude cheating?
1st of all my hats off to the racers for being humble and lifting up their fellow rivals for being worthy opponents that deserved to be there instead of trash talking..and 2nd of all, i worked in king n.c. when i was 18 years old at my brother in laws sporting goods store called barrys sporting goods..and back then, king was way smaller then it is now..but i dont recall hearing of ricky smith..heck..maybe i saw him around and maybe even talked to him..i dont know..never the less cool old video tho..thanks.
The turbo Buick Awesome
Bob Glidden one of the all time greats in Pro Stock always gave props to his opponents as well as his sponsors.
Just read ur comments on the dragrace between buddy v6 turbo n the Icon Bob Glidden dam what a race. Bob was the goat in his day
I remember seeing Ingersoll in the mid 80's here at Suffolk Virginia Raceway. I recall hearing the burnout thinking it wasnt a V8 sound. I went to the pits to have a look. I raced a bike there so it kind a raised my interest. Back then there were no ropes or barriers to keep you away from the cars, you could walk right up and have a close look. At Ingersoll's car, it was just him with the hood up. I have a few pics somewhere. You should check out Ohio George Montgomery's 429 twin turbo mustang from 10 years earlier, along with his twin turbo Mustang funny car. A true innovator.
Buick was changing minds in the 80s. They were running v6 engines in Nascar also and winning with them. And who can forget the fastest production car in the 80s was the Buick regal gnx with that turbo v6.
"there's no replacement for displacement"
Yeah but look how much displacement it took
Look how many turbos it took
@@Disablednoob I mean a 7.3? Something like that vs basically a 3800? So that one or 2 turbos were basically doubling an engine
Edit twin turbo vs 700 CI so I think way more than 7.3 liter
Haha I'm just poking fun man, and yeah way bigger than 7.3L more like 11.0 or so
@@Disablednoob no worries dude, but yeah I hadn't watched the video in a while either so my math was initially based on memory 😂
"No replacement for cubic dollars".
I am amazed this video doesn't have more views. Really like the V6. Our car was twin turbo V6 too. Now everything is turbocharged lmao...
Everything street is crap. Turbos are engine killers and will keep you broke forever replacing parts. Turbo engines never last long. They should've never gone to them but EPA regulations forced the power out and the weight on to their little 4-cylinders and this was the quick fix.
International Hotrod association: There is no replacement for displacement!💪🏾
Buddy: 🙊
The trackside commentator reminds me of the Micro Machines guy from the 80's TV commercials
I just tried to talk fast like him...got a cramp...had to stop...
Way ahead of his time. Look at Honda’s now making 1000 hp
Bob Jenkins , Larry Nuber , i miss both of these guys
i love the v6 turbo ,buick really out did themselves.
Always have and always will love Mr. Bob Glidden
What a badass car. Wonder where it is today.
I believe Jim Delasandro had the car in the 1990’s ran a Very large Single turbo ran in the 7”s
Back in the day, I built a 229 Chevy. Made my own 4bbl intake, thanks to an article in Hot Rod mag that featured Smokey's work on them, did all my own porting, had a custom ground cam, headers, pink rods and flat tops, that thing was a beast on pump gas. Stuffed it in an '81 Olds Starfire hatchback.
OMG! I remember seeing this live!
Buddy ingersoll was a guy bob glidden, rick smith etc. all complained that buddy was running a power adder (only car) and everybody else were all motor did not like the fact buddy had a leg up on everybody............
I remember watching these guys racing at the winter nationals and the finals IN CALIFORNIA back in the 80;s the best time to watch PRO STOCK....
Bob was a great man! I use to root for him when he raced! He always gave props to his rivals and never talked bad about anyone! Bob we salute you for the man you are! Thanks for always being a great guy! We still miss you in pro stock! May the heavens grant you that fastest pass into heaven my friend!
ALL BIG LETTERS, JUST LIKE GOD INTENDED,,,, GREAT VIDEO PAL. MAKES AN OLD MAN PROUD.,, GOBBLESS
This guy was lightyears ahead of his time with the twin trubskies
Actually he was 30 years late, turbos were known to add power long before 86.
Two beautiful cars and first class drivers.
Turbos ftw
Two Greats!! brings me way back to the good ol days of Racing here... \,,/
268ci!! That's incredible! I wonder how many rpm's he was running?
All of them😁
If you can find out his tire size, rear end gear ratio, transmission ratio, and speed you'll know
He went up against Bob Glidden and that’s no local amateur
how much boost from twin turbo and how much mm turbo was used?...was the 268 bored oiut from the 231 ci
252ci 4.1L bored /stroked... 4o Lbs at least
@@brianmathew09 40lbs+ with 1980s electronics... The computer logic was probably "if knock detected, order new block".
Those Buick Motorsport blocks could go up to 276 ci. The blocks came form the circle track cars.
I think he did an interview where he stated that he was pushing around 125 lbs. of boost.
That buick motor is the best motor that has ever come out of the U.S.A. Lead to the 3800 being in millions of cars. Absolutely LOVE them. I'm building my own twin turbo buick v6 right now in a pontiac grand prix gtp.
I'm going to disagree. It was a good motor, but the best? I think the Windsor block Ford motor might have something to say about that. 😏 289/302/351 some of the most buildable, iconic power plants with an outstanding reputation everywhere from the farm to the track.
2:58 that chute didn't want any part of it.
wow! didn't know about buddy ingersoll. thanks for posting.
Bob got on that juice on top end that the only way he could hold off that little v6.
I miss the old Pro Stock body styles so much it hurts.
Bob Glidden was a class act. Always was. Buddy was an absolute genius.
Doesn't matter who "showed up with a twin turbo v6" it matters who gets the W. And that was a FORD Thunderbird with a FORD MOTOR that won.
Glidden ran a 630 inch engine. It was the smallest V8 in mountain motor competition. The V6 turbo was an experimental car let in for a season then outlawed soon afterwards. Bob Glidden was the ONLY one that had the power to drive around this turbocharged charged car. Pro stock is s very competitive class and usually had the cars run within a couple of hundredths of a second between the 16 car field. Just qualifying is extremely hard and cars normally enter the traps almost side by side but Bob would gap his competition by 2-3 car lengths. If he hadn’t had health issues he would still be winning. No one has brought more innovation and winning experience in drag racing than Bob. I talked to him last at Red River raceway close to Shreveport. He was sitting on the first stand level and recognized me from the Cajun Nationals where i met him first in the early 80s. The knowledge that he had was incredible and when he passed he took a lot of it with him. He drove his own car and did all the research and development and engine building. These Pro Stock guys and gals better be glad he is not still running!
34 years later and there’s street cars running those times
Faster! Larry Larson ran 5.9s laster year during drag week.
Yea there are daily drivers that run 730s
Imagine what street cars will be doing in 30 more years 😯
wow,you are fucking observant.200 years ago there werent cars,my point is just as valid as yours