3D Printed plane - Will it fly?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- It had to be done after my previous video! I will let the video explain the rest. The aircraft was printed from clear PLA filament with a 0.4mm nozzle at 220 degree Celsius to maximise the layer strength. All up weight of the aircraft was 730g in the end!
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using a drone to film a 3d printed plane. what a time to be alive
Ayy shotty, you should 3d print the best keyboard for cs
Why does this only have 1 reply
Mate, there are 3D printed drones filming 3D printed aircraft now, that’s a fucking thought.
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I find this so funny now
From a vintage modeler of 70 odd years you get that result when you launch pointing up with low power. Try level to slightly down the airspeed will then build up, and even if it could not fly properly it will land straight. We used to have much less power and control years ago and had to find ways of getting the best out of it. Design looks good though.
Those drone shots are sick. Nice experiment with the plane.
yeah what kind of drones are those? mods?
those are race or freestyle quadcopters. look up rotor riot on youtube to see more
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I think that the glue giving up so easily actually helps a lot in a crash, yeah, it's a pain to re-glue everything, but it's way better than having a rigid structure that transforms the total kinetic energy of the plane into "OMG 24 hours of printing gone to waste-energy".
Very good point.
Reglue>reprint
Consider it a crumple zone in a car
I make the spitfire fom 3d lab and i glue it whit CA and works great you may consider CA
Agree, if he had a spar, and better glue, the wing would become the weak point and break.
Wow, those drone chase shots are next level, thats insane - superb engineering buddy, love it!!!
You got there in the end, kudos for sticking with it. Those aerial shots looked great, would love to see it fly at night with the lights illuminating the wing.
yeah puting some led lights in the wings would look really sick
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The launch failed because of the angle of attack on launch... It immediately stalled and engaged a spin. If you had a platform with a 4-5 degree upward angle climb on full throttle for launch, and had the correct airspeed for launch, your original airfoil would have worked. It was a really good design, I like it.
Awesome , so glad you got it to fly , i really enjoyed watching this . All the best ........
+Scott Thompson thanks! All the best to you too
You can increase the tensile strength of the wings by printing along the span rather than the chord, the way you printed them will make them significantly weaker than the yield strength of the filament used, due to layer separation, ESPECIALLY with torsion and bend loading (which wings are always subject to during flight)
Same with the fuselage, print along the stress axis instead of across it
While it may not be a problem for this aircraft, if you want to 3D print a really big RC plane, or a plane that you will be pulling a lot of G's with, you will need to take this into account, or else your plane might end up on some RC plane crash compilation here on UA-cam
Good job, reflex is generally an issue with deltas and fws. But the end product a flyable 3d printed RC plane is definitely something to be proud of.
This is a great example of persistence that pays off in the end.
Well done.
Would like to see a pod and boom version of the 3D printed plane, with everything but the boom, being 3D printed. And the boom being an arrow shaft, or carbon fiber tube.
Tom, love your videos, and also your persistence! Just in case no one has mentioned this, but a launching catapult would be great to get your tests up and be ready with your controller. You can probably design one with a foot release, or even a servo release using one of your controller channels. I am sure you have probably thought about it already, but it would definitely save you some effort. All in all, keep up the awesome videos, as they are quite entertaining and informative, as I am a big fan of aviation (served in the US Air force as an aircraft Mechanic (KC-135R) ) and I am a great RC aircraft and helicopter enthusiast as well. Really liked your air powered motor project!
As someone who builds composite flying wings and various aircraft that push the edge of the envelope, I have to say this is a very nice design, and you did a good job diagnosing the trim issues with your model. Congratulations on an elegant, nice flying design!
I just have to say something, THAT WING FLYYYYYYYYYS AMAZZZING GREAT WORK THUNBS UP,!!!!
The airfoil reflex problem you were experiencing is the exact reason why most model flying wing designs have their elevons running along the whole wing span. This makes trimming for stability way easier, so the CG location is less critical.
Kind regards,
A fellow aerospace engineer
Nice.
Also, the music during the time lapse made me keep expecting to hear "Ever since I was a young boy
I've played the silver ball..."
And then it got a bit Led Zeppelin
Tim Cave from soho down to Brighton I must have played them all
3DLabs work is excellent. I have now printed several of their models and scaled down a spitfire to 80%, which makes for a more rugged design. They are now experimenting with a new PLA, which is virtually crash-proof. Thin wall printing is a black art and takes a lot of practice to get clean prints like the ones they show.
Kudos for not giving up and sticking to it to get your plane to fly!
By now every time I watch one of your diy inventions I expect it to crash the first 10 times at least. I think it's great how you show things hardly ever work out right away and sometimes you need to go back to the drawing board and the key to succes is to keep failing until it doesn't fail anymore
Something that bugs me is maidens with power over hard flat ground! See it time and again (even with the long time pilots like Bruce from RCModelReviews with his pulse jet, and of course Ron!). Especially if it is a new design or not built exactly to plan, do a test glide on a slope with longish grass!!
Only needs to be a metre or so high ridge, as long as the slope is slightly steeper than the glide slope of the aircraft, you are only feet off the ground the whole time. And yes, get someone else to launch into slight wind, straight out, not heaving up at low speed into the air. Time spent in finding a test flight sight is well rewarded with avoided rebuild time and tears!!
Did you use an established flying wing foil like a Peter Wick?
awesome, good job man ;)
+Ramy RC Thanks!
good
That's amazing! So cool! The drone shots are beautiful. Show this to any job application and you're hired!!
good job. reflex on trailing edge makes a flying wing makes sense.
I was definitely cheering when the final successful launch happened!
am i the only one screaming about the drones "get away!" lol...nice job thumbs up!
Glad you made a printed plane after condemning the 3D printed plane idea in the last video. Thanks for the resilience and hard work I dig the design of your plane!
Good for sticking with it! She looked nice when she finally got going. Obviously there's tons of designs to work with later. Perhaps see what it'd be like with the motor and propeller mounted at the rear of the fuselage, and have it rotate the other direction? Basically make it into a pusher prop. Perhaps with the weight towards the back it'd be a little more centered and it wouldn't dive so hard to start? Good luck, and I hope you do redesign for improvements and try again!
Nice to see this working! Like you say, I think you could shave off another 50+g fairly easily by working with another material, but I'm rally impressed with how this went with PLA. Great work!
The techy bits scare me :-)
But its taken me 58 years to have such subjective flight break down !
I am very impressed, thank you.
Swept wings can have some nasty yaw issues so the big winglets are needed
Rex Holes or more sweep in the wings
Power on stall without a rudder to fight it?
Well done , in the spirit of engineering , perseverance , curiosity
Those drones are friggin VICIOUS !!!!
Also you should put rudders on the winglets to give yaw control. Burt Rutan employed this idea for the canard aircraft he designed. The sweep also links pitch and roll. This can be both good and bad.
when launching by yourself, you can hold the controller with your right hand and throw the plane with your left. before you throw it push the throttle all the way up with your nose and you have control from the second it leaves your hand. I had problems with this when I began flying wings
It flies great job. Plus you never gave up where others would have.
I had nothing to do with this project, yet I feel super rewarded for it. I guess it is because I know what it is like going through all the prototyping and redesigning and such! Soooo happy to see it work out for you!! Haha
That's what I love about his videos he shows the failures so that at the end that final feeling of success when it flies even tho Ive been on my phone doing nothing to contribute to the project 🤣
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It was very discouraging when it crashed into pieces but your dedication and commitment brought success. Great 👍
The first half of this video is entertaining in a different way than the second half ^_^
Cool idea and nice video!
"I'm a professional, I've been on a plane." Nice! Haha
It looks like you have some yaw instability. By picking a flying wing, you picked one of the hardest designs to get flying. Most flying wings are set up overly nose heavy, which is compensated for by having a airfoil with a trailing edge "reflex". This combination is very important for pitch stability. Whoops, I started to write this before I finished watching the video, but I'm glad you mentioned the reflex issue.
Awesome video, however just a tip, when you throw the plane, throw it with your left hand so you can control the pitch and roll before throttle, apply throttle before launching, because one problem you had was it just flew into the ground because you probarbly couldn't get your hand to the plane in time. Amazing work to, impressive job fly's great :D
Tom your a great engineer
period
I don't know what kind of internet trolls would dislike this video
maybe cus they don't understand how cool what your doing is
I'm an aspiring robotic engineer and I'll be doing what you do pretty soon
your an inspiration
BTW this is your first video I've watched
Heavier planes has higher stall speed, big inertion, low manuverability and more speed at landing.
But they are more stable. Lighter planes are better, but suffering from wind and turbulence.
730 gramm for under 1 meter airplane is quite lot. 450-550 is ideal weight! My foamy Spitfire with 1050 mm wingspan, 1800 3s battery has weight 535 g. Thrust is 860 g.
On my very first RC plane, I lost it on my first time out with it cause I flew it too high(in the valley of mountains) and an updraft took it so high I lost visual on it as well as control. I never saw it again.
That's such a sad story ! May he rests in the planes cemetery, far beyond the clouds !
Flying wing airplanes need to have washout to prevent stall/spin, and the wing cross section should have reflex in order to reduce the change in pitching moment with angle of attack. Flying wings can be a challenge to design. you want to be sure that the root of the wing stalls first. Also pick an airfoil specifically designed for flying wing aircraft. I am an aerospace engineer.
Cool that you stuck with it. Others would likely have quit after the first three tries or so and written it off.
Other than that, maybe the glue joins being a little weak is what keeps anything else from breaking? Breaks there at your known weak points. Compared to anything else breaking, that seems relatively easy to fix with some light sanding and re-gluing.
The cool thing is, by it's nature, it wont be too hard to mod the design and do variations or iterative versioning with improvements. Might be fun to make a "fast" one with increased sweep and a thinner wing profile, or a "floaty" one with slightly longer wings, leading edge slots, and a thicker chord. And yet the core design would be pretty much what you have here.
Personally I'd forego the canopy and make the front part housing the motor and battery one solid cone with a locking mechanism that has the cone first slide onto the main body to be flush with it and then locked in place with a 20° rotation counteracting the rotation of the prop/motor to keep it locked.
Alternatively you could also use magnets to hold it in place as a form of breakaway point thus possibly preventing damage to other parts.
Most planks have either full width elevons or use a dedicated aerofoil that includes reflex trailing edge !
3DLabPrints has airplanes you can buy. They have both the STL and g-code ready files so you have a choice to either run the g-code in a i-3 printer, or use the STL files and slice them with Cura, skienforge, or whatever your preference is. Flight-Test had a few sent to them to play with and they are awesome as well. Keep it up you're on the right track.
It really worth looking it until the end! The last flight is amazing.
She turned out really nice!
Very cool. I hate to admit it, but I had my doubts in the beginning, (not in the printed parts, but the fuselage being so far ahead of the flying wing didn't look right to me. But then again, I don't have any experience with the flying wing design) but you proved me wrong. Worked great. Good for you. It's funny, when I got my printer a year ago I told myself the first thing I would print would be an rc airplane. Haven't done it yet. Oh well, Someday. Keep up the great work. I'm going to have to add you to my list of favorite you tubers to watch. So now it's you, colinfurze, and James Bruton. That's it.
So nice to watch...It looks like drone warfare..great job all of you.
The landing was sick!
Nice, perseverance is the key, when you fall, just get up and keep going, that's the spirit.
Damn I didn't think it would go this well. You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Maybe do a video of the final version which is really only 3D printed without the wood? Also next level would be to use a 3d printed motor :D (look it up there are 3D printed motors with ferromagnetic filament).
+HTechHD I will be working on a version 2 in the future for sure. That 3D printed motor is amazing! Thanks for subscribing!
I'd suggest checking out friction welding the 3d printed parts together might make it more solid
Nice documentation and glad to see that you were willing to show the fails as well. Great experiment and lots of learning going on. That is one of the most gratifying parts of the model aviation hobby. Keep up the good work!
Kudos for being brave enough to post such a failure based learning video
Well done Tom ... so much fun to watch!!
i like that you did not give up keep it up
Can you remake the plane with the proper corrections? I would love to see this as a project
Impressed! *added to things to print*
A true engineer. Good on you, mate!
Absolutely in awe. These kinds of videos are definitely the ones that ultimately affect which career I choose.
Tenacity and logic prevails again!
You could build a simple launch catapult. Adjust the starting speed with the number or rubber bands.
That landing was beautiful
Well done !!!! I was planning to buy a 3d printer, and after watching this i need it fast lol. I have been flying rc planes for years now and always needed to work with wood. I don't mind using wood but these 3d printed parts a way stronger (or so it seems to be).
Great job troubleshooting. Way to hang in there.
its always a joy to see your projects success
STANTON! I so enjoyed this video. It was an epic triumph story of the underdog comes out on top! Congratulations that your tenacity paid off. You trusted your gut and didn't give up. Remember that each failure is only one step forward to success. The landing was perfect! Your mum must be so proud of you.
Cordially, Christopher Soulé P.S. I am the grandson of Hartley Soulé - aeronautical engineer and NASA administrator on the X1 - X15 Projects.
(The X1 was the first plane to break the sound barrier).
Drones shots were so cool
You should try it again with ABS! You could turn your 336.4g into 282.14g, if you've got an extruder that is capable. Just print a little slower than normal, and maybe try to keep the heat in around your printer to prevent the layers from separating.
Boy that's a tale of perseverance.
I am an avid 3D print engineer. I have a couple drones and a remote control truck. Time to try my hands at a plane. If you can PM me I would like to print your design in honor of your efforts and try this myself!
Thanks again for inspiring me. Good job sticking to it when it got tough, figuring out the bugs and working past them!
Hey, I'm currently working of a version 2 which has the increase in airfoil reflex and correctly sized winglets.
Will be uploading it to thingiverse once I know it is decent. Thanks!
Sick, looks like I'm subscribing
+Stefan Teunissen Thanks!
Me too
First, your design skills are sick, that was awsome! I admire your persistance. Crashes are so discouraging, especially after building everything yourself. Did you check your CG? And when hand launching, try throwing with your left arm. Set the throttle with your nose, but keep your right thumb on the control stick when launching. Lets you pull up or counter rolls faster. Great work!
I didn't think you had anything set up to steer it until you did the spin, that looked super fun though
I really really really enjoy your videos keep up the excellent work my brother God bless
Great project! Tho, first attempt = tailheavy(yes i saw the whole thing;) causing a tipstall because of low airflow. Second attempt was frontheavy or just to low speed to get lift:) Third attempt, cg okay but to low speed for lift :)
Tip: hold transmitter in your right hand, give it launch(full) throttle while holding it. Then launch with left hand så you have your right thumb on the controll stick :)
Love that you stuck with it after the 2nd crash and got it flying! Really enjoyed this video
wow someone so young but so clever you will go far good luck and God bless
Yep, the first flying wing (FT Versa Wing) I launched went down just like that 9:15 . I had to give it about 10 degrees of up elevator. Trimmed it in flight, then recentered the servos in that position, then it was perfect.
I loved this story. I felt your frustration during the middle. I felt the joy when it worked. Awesome job!
The cool fact is that last year no one thought it was possible to 3d print a plane and now every one in experimenting! I would like to leave you a couple of suggestions:
-why didn't you used the classical wing design with spar and ribs?
-i know it's more difficult to print but i suggest you to print the wing so that the slices are aligned with wing axes and not with the section to have some more rigidity. (3d prints are stronger along the slices).
well done for not giving up on your project😉😊😀
Dude....! Nice job. That's an awesome accomplishment.
My years of KSP experience has told me that the centre of lift should be on, or _slightly_ behind the centre of mass... Let's see how this flies...
EDIT: I didn't factor in how heavy the fuselage is and how light the Li-Po battery is. Keep forgetting technology advances at ridiculously fast rates, and 3D printing is relatively new. D'oh!
Didn't think that design was going to fly. Proven wrong =) Nice work!
+olmen375 thanks!
Why wouldn't it?? Strap a motor big enough on brick and it will fly..
Could you link the stl files so others can print your plane and Mabey a list of your electronics or a walk through on how to make it that would be great :)
There is a flying wing design on thingiverse. I haven't tried printing it yet.
This video was FANTASTIC!!!! Loved it.
Loved how you solved the problems :)
Forget the glue, fuse the parts together using heat. You can even weld using a rod of printing material in a dremel or drill. Google it there are some how to out there.
Very cool.. and good to see you got it working
Good job, yes never give. Greetings from Hong Kong, Little London. l am British too.
In the old days of bringing a micro processor to life, getting the screen to say "hello world" was a breakthrough worthy of celebrating with a champagne dinner. Why, because now you had feedback. The rest of the project was now about optimization and there was no longer a lack of output to wonder about. Maybe it wasn't the output desired, but there was now something to diagnose besides overheating. I am sure that this won't consume your life, but I doubt this is your last 3D printer airplane design. you might try a few degrees of convergence on the winglets. That may help with yaw. You may also get better adverse yaw control with spoilers than ailerons. Small airplanes have low polar moment of inertia which means that without positive stability the plane will get ahead of the pilots response capabilities. To understand my concerns, try balancing a meter stick vertically on the end of your finger. Its doable with practice, but now try the same thing with a pencil. No one has fast enough reflexes to do that. Small airplanes have more problems than small Reynolds number airfoils
5:34 thats why planes have tails?
for stability just like normal airplane
13:31 "DO A BARREL ROLL!"
You should continue with the experiment in the following areas : make wings lighter until you find that point of strength limit , improve interlocking mechanism of parts , add lessons learned into new design , add camera ,
Nothing like a Tom Stanton dopermine hit 13:38 with my morning shot Columbian Aldi home ground coffee beans coffee. Cheers Tom.