The World needs more trains with giant lethal propellers on top!!! PS - I'd call 90 degrees a fail, unless you can somehow determine that the loco is providing more climbing force than the winch.
Yeah I’m not sure what health and safety would say about the propellor! The cable railway (similar to a funicular) is a permanently attached cable / train combo used for steep gradients typically railways in mountainous regions. Thanks for the comment!
@@BuilditwithBricks Yup, I've been on plenty of cable railways, funiculars, water lifts... My point is that traction and wheel drive was the point of the experiment. In theory you could have the railway over hanging and as long as magnets held the loco con the track, the winch would pull it up... but that isn't really the loco doing tractive drive work, is it? The same could be true of 90 degrees, unless it can be measured.
@@paulosborne6517 Maybe shed unnecessary weight and use magnet - cog combo again? Less weight, means less magnetic attraction needed Also maybe add metal plate on the whole belly of locomotive, instead of magnet, as that would make it more smooth that having magnets on locomotive too
Thanks for the comment! A cable railway utilises a permanently attached cable to move trains and engines up a steep gradient. A funicular is also a type of cable railway but utilises two counterbalanced carriages! (This is similar to that but not quite!)
3:44 This moment made me laugh😂😂 It's like a steam locomotive running on a thermonuclear engine!😅😂 5:32 Steam locomotive + propeller = Locomotive helicopter😊😂 8:00 Locomotive, hold on!! 😥😥
Hi thanks for the comments! I tested front wheel drive on the early models - it worked until the gradient increased, then the slightest lifting of the front wheel meant it had no traction (less compared to the rear wheel drive) and by adding weight forward of that front wheel to get it to stay in the ground effectively made it RWD! Thanks for watching!
I have only one issue Connecting rods on sides are supposed to be 90° offset between right/left side, not 180° (that would be same as of they were 0° offset) In your setup, if you turn wheels 90° both rods will align and won't provide torque, as they only push/pull forward/backwards Be separating them 90° you will make sure that at least one side can push/pull the wheels
2:36 Would've loved to see the front axle to be powered instead of four wheel drive. Instead of pushing all this weight, a smaller weight could be pulled. Eventually, this wouldn't be enough anymore and 6 wheels need to be driven for higher traction. It would be a tangent to well stretch the video a bit more.
I think your center of gravity was way too high making it want to roll backwards. the middle wheel basically did nothing because of the curve of the track. so the front wheel kept it from fully touching the rails. in some of the early tests just running it backwards could have worked due to the heavy battery pack towards the rear making it lift up it reminds me a bit of the MT. Washington cog railway with the engines tipped forwards to be level on the grade.
While the video was fun (the downforce fan was a surprise), we still have to address the elephant in the room. The 90 degrees thing was not a train, that was an elevator. I've seen your comments about the funicular, but the funicular also isn't a train, it's a funicular. A vehicle that travels on a steel rail won't automatically become a train; for example, railway maintenance vehicles are capable of lowering steel wheels and travel on railways, but are not trains, rollercoasters are not trains, rail supported crawler cranes (the likes in docks and huge shipyards) are also not trains. On the same level, a vehicle that travels on a road isn't necessarily a car, it can be a bus, a truck, a bicycle, and so on and forth. A train, by definition, is one or more cars with - and here comes the difference - a locomotive. And a locomotive is a self-propelled engine that pulls said cars. Your 90 degrees elevator uses a winch to pull itself up, and by that, isn't self-propelled anymore. Yes, the motor is technically on the traveling unit itself (like on some elevators), but it could be on the platform as well (like on other elevators), and would still work, while a train can't move without the locomotive being self-propelled. So yes, the video is still fun, but the 90 degrees example isn't technically a train anymore ;)
No cap, vehicles with smaller wheels need more power to go faster, but their traction is amazing, larger wheels are great for speed but they suffer in the traction department, the torque transferred by the wheel not only depends on the grip but the diameter, it takes less effort to turn a small wheel than it does to turn a big wheel, which acts more like a flywheel Again, your grandma could not outrun that on a hillclimb
@@Hacksworth_Sidings Oh wow I did not know that yet I'm a train fan? Thanks for the information but my comment was only a joke it wasn't meant to be taken seriously :/
Short answer : no. The weight of the train is parallel to the track, therefore there is no friction. "blah blah blah" Well yeah, you can do anything if you glue it on. Alternately you could strap a rocket engine on the back, but it still wouldn't be "a train climbing vertically". Other short answer : sure, it's called an elevator. And that's what "worked" here.
I never thought that fan would actually work! Colour me surprised, great job.
Yes I’m surprised it permitted such a high angle myself! Thanks!
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I pretty much said the exact same thing
The World needs more trains with giant lethal propellers on top!!!
PS - I'd call 90 degrees a fail, unless you can somehow determine that the loco is providing more climbing force than the winch.
Yeah I’m not sure what health and safety would say about the propellor! The cable railway (similar to a funicular) is a permanently attached cable / train combo used for steep gradients typically railways in mountainous regions. Thanks for the comment!
@@BuilditwithBricks Yup, I've been on plenty of cable railways, funiculars, water lifts... My point is that traction and wheel drive was the point of the experiment. In theory you could have the railway over hanging and as long as magnets held the loco con the track, the winch would pull it up... but that isn't really the loco doing tractive drive work, is it? The same could be true of 90 degrees, unless it can be measured.
@@paulosborne6517 Maybe shed unnecessary weight and use magnet - cog combo again?
Less weight, means less magnetic attraction needed
Also maybe add metal plate on the whole belly of locomotive, instead of magnet, as that would make it more smooth that having magnets on locomotive too
bro reinvented the elevator
Now this means there is a threshold angle at which elevator becomes train.
We'll need another video to pin that down.
That fan was a really nice out of the box solution!
Thanks! It took the train to a decent angle!!
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90 degrees: Its an elevator with a bunch of useless parts stuck to it
Thanks for the comment! A cable railway utilises a permanently attached cable to move trains and engines up a steep gradient. A funicular is also a type of cable railway but utilises two counterbalanced carriages! (This is similar to that but not quite!)
@@BuilditwithBricks at a 90 degree slope you dont need a rail anymore because gravity will hold your elevator in place anyways
Yeah a rack and pinion isn't really a train at that point.
@@oPlazmaMCexcept isn’t gravity literally not holding it in place because the railway is now perpendicular to gravity?
@@RaineyPeng gravity still holds it in its place because its the lowest point it can go on a cable
I don't know what I'm more impressed with, how far it got or the ideas you had to get it there.
Thanks for the support!
Congratulations on creating the most complicated elevator.
We were all surprised by how far the 1 wheel drive went
Me too in all honesty! Thanks for watching !
3:44 This moment made me laugh😂😂
It's like a steam locomotive running on a thermonuclear engine!😅😂
5:32 Steam locomotive + propeller = Locomotive helicopter😊😂
8:00 Locomotive, hold on!! 😥😥
Ah! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks!
This some Bad Piggies type shenanigans and I love it
Instead of adding more weight initially you should have been moving the battery box lower and further forward. IMHO. 🤷
Thanks for the comment! Yep there are lots of ways to move the centre of gravity! I suppose that’s what makes each designer different!
i kept screaming: USE FWD!!!
100%, would've made such a difference
Hi thanks for the comments! I tested front wheel drive on the early models - it worked until the gradient increased, then the slightest lifting of the front wheel meant it had no traction (less compared to the rear wheel drive) and by adding weight forward of that front wheel to get it to stay in the ground effectively made it RWD! Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for adding those piston rods ( I think they are called that) it makes things looks so much cooler
With the last solution, you may have been able to go beyond 90 degrees :) Next time a train loop de loop :D
Funny you should say that…. Check out my LEGO Rollercoaster loop the loop video! There you will find an answer to your question…
@@BuilditwithBricks Indeed. Nice :)
His process of thought: If I take an elevator, add a bunch of useless bits to it and call it a train, some ppl might even believe it
that fan concept impressed me..
When you put on that downforce fan, I immediately saw some Bad Piggies flashbacks
I have only one issue
Connecting rods on sides are supposed to be 90° offset between right/left side, not 180° (that would be same as of they were 0° offset)
In your setup, if you turn wheels 90° both rods will align and won't provide torque, as they only push/pull forward/backwards
Be separating them 90° you will make sure that at least one side can push/pull the wheels
And there you go, you've created the Class 08 shunter
My main takeaway from this video, how surprisingly steep fifteen degrees is.
At what angle is it no longer a train but an elevator?🤣🧐
cool, its on point
Weird elevator at the end. :P
Great idea with the fan.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!
2:36 Would've loved to see the front axle to be powered instead of four wheel drive. Instead of pushing all this weight, a smaller weight could be pulled. Eventually, this wouldn't be enough anymore and 6 wheels need to be driven for higher traction. It would be a tangent to well stretch the video a bit more.
I was amazed that the fan worked as well as it did, and impressed that the magnets got it to 80 degrees. But the winch makes it not a train, IMHO.
This is cool keep up the good videos 👌
Thanks a lot!!
I agree
4:04 just like snowdon railway.
Hold on, that's a rollercoaster, not a train. That's like saying that the Orlando Harry Potter ride is a train just because it is shaped like one.
You should make a video seeing how fast you can make a Lego train go
I would say the winch system is kinda missing a point, you could put anything with a magnet on a winch and it would go vertically
Move the power to the front. FWD has a better chance of gripping power and doesn’t make the train flip backwards as much
Side rods. That’s all you need.
Im going to try this in Satisfactory :D
2:30 bro is screaming 💀
Ye good job 2:56
Moral of the story, just use an elevator for 90 degrees :D
And he creates... An elevator
I think your center of gravity was way too high making it want to roll backwards.
the middle wheel basically did nothing because of the curve of the track. so the front wheel kept it from fully touching the rails.
in some of the early tests just running it backwards could have worked due to the heavy battery pack towards the rear making it lift up
it reminds me a bit of the MT. Washington cog railway with the engines tipped forwards to be level on the grade.
For making more drive wheels I thought you would attach a bar instead of gear driven
While the video was fun (the downforce fan was a surprise), we still have to address the elephant in the room.
The 90 degrees thing was not a train, that was an elevator.
I've seen your comments about the funicular, but the funicular also isn't a train, it's a funicular. A vehicle that travels on a steel rail won't automatically become a train; for example, railway maintenance vehicles are capable of lowering steel wheels and travel on railways, but are not trains, rollercoasters are not trains, rail supported crawler cranes (the likes in docks and huge shipyards) are also not trains. On the same level, a vehicle that travels on a road isn't necessarily a car, it can be a bus, a truck, a bicycle, and so on and forth.
A train, by definition, is one or more cars with - and here comes the difference - a locomotive.
And a locomotive is a self-propelled engine that pulls said cars.
Your 90 degrees elevator uses a winch to pull itself up, and by that, isn't self-propelled anymore. Yes, the motor is technically on the traveling unit itself (like on some elevators), but it could be on the platform as well (like on other elevators), and would still work, while a train can't move without the locomotive being self-propelled.
So yes, the video is still fun, but the 90 degrees example isn't technically a train anymore ;)
Oh it stopped being a train LONG before 90 degrees
Fast as hell boi
I know how to solve this problem: “a banker”
should have kept going beyond 90 degrees. The winch wouldn't have worked anymore
he made an escalator and slowly worked to making an elevator
Changed from a train to a funicular lol
It's not a train it's an helicopter 😂😂
soo the last one is actually a lift
Train race
Nice job on 80K subs:DDDDD
Thanks! 😁
The pain that this poor engine is trying to do all of this without coupling rods
When does it stop being a train and become an elevator 😂😂
Cool
now make it go 180
so an elevator?
elevator??
That's not a train, it's an engine. Where are the carriges?
👋 hey 👋 😊
8 hour
train to elevator
bro built a lego lift
4:34 Man! That train is so slow my grandma could outrun it, By the time that train moves a single wheel my grandma would have walked the whole earth.
Less speed = higher torque, your grandma could never outrun it on a hillclimb
Yeah right buddy
No cap, vehicles with smaller wheels need more power to go faster, but their traction is amazing, larger wheels are great for speed but they suffer in the traction department, the torque transferred by the wheel not only depends on the grip but the diameter, it takes less effort to turn a small wheel than it does to turn a big wheel, which acts more like a flywheel
Again, your grandma could not outrun that on a hillclimb
@@Hacksworth_Sidings Oh wow I did not know that yet I'm a train fan? Thanks for the information but my comment was only a joke it wasn't meant to be taken seriously :/
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Short answer : no.
The weight of the train is parallel to the track, therefore there is no friction.
"blah blah blah"
Well yeah, you can do anything if you glue it on. Alternately you could strap a rocket engine on the back, but it still wouldn't be "a train climbing vertically".
Other short answer : sure, it's called an elevator. And that's what "worked" here.
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Final level is an elevator
When you put on that downforce fan, I immediately saw some Bad Piggies flashbacks
Cool