i just noticed a connection that i didnt see befoe. Manus has been driven wild and is no more than a crazed beast when we find him, yet even in this mindless, destructive and absolutely crazy state, he recognizes the broken pendant we have and "wants" it so much that he trancendes time to pull us and the pendant into the past, ultimately sealing his fate because he cant control his want. now, in DS2 you have Manus' strongest shard beeing Nashandra, the manifestation of Manus' want, pulling all the strings because she still retains her fathers uncontrollable want. i just thought that is a very neat touch.
Ironically the game tells you she’s the smallest and weakest of all the shards of Manus, not the biggest and strongest. I do agree that his want was his undoing and was excessively uncontrollable which honestly just shows how powerful Manus was in the first place if his weakest shard could topple a kingdom as strong as Drangleic.
Apologies for my tardiness. Medical school strikes again. This is a copy of my comment. I was a little late. Notes: 1. I believe Manus himself was someone of great importance in life; possibly the founder of Oolacile. Aside from his catalyst's size, like the Tin Crystallization Catalyst, it increases the power of sorceries but halves their use. In short,at the very least, Manus is a sorcerer of the same level as Logan; he only casts Dark sorceries currently, but the same could be said of the Oolacilian sorcerers spread across Oolacile Township. 2. I may have detailed this before, but I believe the Abyss Watchers arose from a cult of both Artorias and the Chosen Undead, the reasoning being the three fires ritual. There is a fourth fire that we cannot reach in game, and assets show it depicts Seath. This is unsurprising, as aside from linking the Fire, the Chosen Undead is credited with the defeat of the Four Kings, and the scattering of the Darkwraith covenant. Taken together with the Catacombs and the Undead Settlement, along with the shared Ritual Worker Hat we've cited so many times, it would seem this hero cult was used as the nucleus of a revolution within the former territories of Carthus. The buildings found half sunk in the forest are likely remnants of both Carthus and the period of Farron's independence, both of which had reason to imitate the glory days of Oolacile. There is good reason the Legion were patrons of not only Xanthous scholars, but also,one of the Twin Sages; they were chasing those glory days. Considering the Sage's Coal is guarded by a Darkwraith, that might've been their downfall. 3. At first, I was leery at the idea of the Profaned Flame being related to Alsanna( the Court Sorcerer set refers to it's previous wearers as oracles constantly) , but after some thought, I do think it's possible. As stated before, the Chaos Flame,like the First Flame, has no true location, and the Ivory King likely used the gate beneath Eleum Loyce to reach and slaughter scores of demonkind underneath Lordran. As such, the Profaned Capital could've been founded partly to follow in his footsteps, smothering another " bonfire " of the Chaos Flame, now Profaned Flame, in a specially designed Lordvessel. This may have also been why Wolnir would set his sights on them; much like the Smouldering Lake, his armies were looking for more knowledge on pyromancy. That said, I do still believe they held a relation to Lothric, thanks to the Gargoyles depicted under the Sulyvahn/ Lothric statue. 4. I may have also detailed this before, but I believe that despte her lack of direct presence in his life, Nadalia played a great part in the Iron King's rise, albeit almost completely without his knowledge. All his most competent followers show some influence on the Dark in their abilities; the Pursuer's Mist resembling the one she uses in Brume Tower; Alonne casting Dark Greatsword and guarding a Smelter Wedge; Eygil's Dance Of Fire. There is, of course, the obvious question of why she couldn't reach her beloved King. The answer,I think, is: 5. There are four gates to the Dark Chasm ingame. Of the four, three are operational; the fourth lies under the shrine where you can pray your Hollowing away, but is completely dormant, and cannot be opened. Four gates. Four sisters. 6. Headcanon, but I think Karla might be Nadalia's reincarnation. She has an aptitude for Dark pyromancy, and represents loneliness quite well with her attitude with us. 7.Regarding Gwyn, I need you to look at these quotes with some hindsight: " Once, the Lord Of Light banished Dark, and all that stemmed from humanity. And Men assumed a fleeting form. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie!" " Men trust fully in the illusion of life...but is that so wrong? A construction, a facade, and yet, a world full of warmth and resplendence." "The fire will fade, and Dark will become a curse. Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. " How do you gain a human form in Dark Souls 1? You burn a humanity. You cannot gain it by using a humanity; all it does is give you soft humanity in store. You can only reverse your Hollowing by burning it. " And Men assumed a fleeting form." Gwyn didn't " bind" humanity to the Flame for the sake of linking it; the only reason humans as we know them exist is because of this " binding". Without it: " Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. " Manus' immortality, and that of his children, as well as their effect on time, is a result of this logic: " Light is time, and the reversal of it's effects is a forbidden art." Light is time.... And Man is Dark. The Dark is anathema to the laws of the world, even though it is also their source; from the Dark they came, after all. The Flame used the raw materials of the Dark to create what we know as the world. Humans, without a bond to the Flame, are creatures like Manus; beings who could wreak kingdoms and civilisations over something as simple as.... A pendant. Some desire of theirs. Anything. Humans are not content; not naturally; not without warmth. "The darkness echoes words of despair, reducing the defense of opponents. The Dark blankets the world in black. A thing of tranquility, a thing serene." To succumb to Dark is to become true to ourselves; to become " human" by casting off what we once believed to be the " human form". To become as Manus, Kaathe and their kin; beings of desire above all else, harbingers of entropy in this world of Disparity. To be defined and shackled by our desires... There is nothing less demeaning. Gwyn bound us, yes, but only because we, our ancestors, accepted that binding. Why? Because even if warmth is a lie... Is that so wrong?
Holy shit you always have the most insightful comments, i totally agree about manus being someone of import to oolacile or at the very least whatever came before it, and i also remember you mention that about the abyss watchers i really wish i wouldve remembered that while recording this video because i love that theory, i was coming off of being sick plus the alchemy but i gotta find an opportunity to mention that because i totally agree
@@TheHonoredMadman Good morning. Thank you. You being able to remember these is quite the feat! Thank you so much! Also, glad to see it has passed. Hope you are in good health.
I guess that Kaathe probably wanted the people of Oolacile to ressurect Manus so that he could become the new Dark Lord, but they had other ideas, as the dark serpent does complain about "fools" who have failed him before.
It's interesting to make Karla a possible descendent of the abyss since, iirc Zullie isn't ever mentioned as such. I choose to believe both that Zullie is Karla's mom and that Karla's got that abyss in her so Zullie having Manus DNA is basically bonus lore. Also do the video essays i wanna hear em.
Ha! You might have missed one perfect twin peaks reference opportunity but that reference you made about imperfect courage made up for it entirely. Anyway, I know our character finishes what Artorias started but I think we shouldn't discount him too much. He still confronted the dark and he doubtless must have realised he was a bit afraid. Maybe he was still the most qualified warrior to do it, despite his fear. And he still laid down his own life to protect Sif, which to me suggests true courage. Reminds me of that dialogue from the first ASOIAF book; "can someone still be brave even when he's afraid?" "That is the only time he *can* be brave"
The Ivory king is the ultra gigachad of darksouls 2,he tamed a piece of friggin Manus,he faced the embodiment of the demons themselves which is the flame of chaos AND EVEN BURNED BY IT he is a force to be reckoned with.
Only correction here, he didn’t tame a piece of manus, Alsanna was actually slowly draining his power, as the eleum loyce sword tells you, he’s not a gigachad bc he tamed her, she’s killing him, slowly, and he upon finding out, just didn’t care, and gave her the sword to say he loved her anyway, then plunged into the chaos before he lost more power
@@t-mango2491The sword description doesnt implicitly say she drains the strength of the ivory king,the ivory king was a mortal afterall and could also be old age.Alsanna has an atipical relationship with the king unlike any of the fragments of Manus,she had no reason to guard the old chaos after the ivory king basically became bbq and also to use her ice powers to contain it.She willingly accepts the souls of Loyce knights you save from the old chaos to comfort them.These 3 reasons alone make me really doubt that she was like Nashandra or Nadalia.
@@Trimondius I was not arguing alsanna is not a good person, but Including the Eleum loyce description “Eleum Loyce Curved sword forged from the soul of Alsanna. Formed by two curious blades, this sword can restore an ally's HP with a hit from its strong attack. The enigmatic Alsanna quietly found a place at the Ivory King's side, and when his strength was fully drained, he conferred this sword, inscribed with the name of the land, to her.” And the chime of want description “…After taking their shapes, they courted monarchs of considerable power, which they desired to make their own. “ the word “drained” implies the act was deliberate and the chime of want indicates that children of the dark do this, it isn’t believed by many to be an act of malice on her part, but she still did in fact drain his strength
Karla's "But I am guilty, a wretched child of the Abyss" comment has always puzzled me because all humans are wretched children of the Abyss, something Karla actually knows herself. Then there are hints that Zullie and Alva are her parents which throws a spanner into the works that Karla is Manus' child, unless we consider grandchild as acceptable. While I don't disagree with the idea that Karla is referring to Manus when she says she's a wretched child of the Abyss, I feel like the lore community hasn't exhausted the other possibilities with what it could really mean. One possibility could be that she's guilty of heretical abyssal sorceries, which makes even more sense when she says she's no different to the monstrosities in the Profaned Capital. Perhaps she was one that didn't mutate.
The abyss watchers absolutely did not learn anything from Artorias. They also fell to the abyss, although they ironically did far more to fight the abyss than Artorias ever did before succumbing. It's why their eyes glow red and they fight each other. They vowed to stamp out the abyss, wherever it emerged, and so they uphold their vows forever, until the ashen one comes along and encourages their return to the throne
I totally agree, Of course they fell to the abyss, they were( much like artorias) dealing with something outside their comprehension. I only meant that they learned to destroy kingdoms before they fell to the abyss as opposed to artorias who went in blind after the shit had hit the fan in oolacile
"children are a product of their environment" Is a take I'm surprised hasn't been talked about more in regards to the shards of Manus, so good on you for touching on it! Banger vid as always, madman.
@@TheHonoredMadman Id love to see a video about Mike. I’m interested in your thoughts on some of the things “the arm” says in the most recent season. I feel like the arm and his doppelgänger played a big part in manipulating Cooper.
I really enjoyed this one! I've been playing Dark Souls 3, and I defeated the Abyss Watchers yesterday! MAN! I had no idea how that fight was going to go. After the three were beaten, I was like:' Okay. Now what?' THEN, Phase 2 happened! Holy S%#@! When that, essence, wolfblood, or whatever that was, came together into ONE! Then said guy burst into flames AND got a HUGE flaming sword, I was like:' OH S%#@! A Lord of Cinder!' I just lit the three fires to open that door, I had NO IDEA he was even there! Took a couple of tries, but I got him! Thanks to this GREAT video, I understand these guys a lot more! Definitely one of my coolest fights, thus far! Keep these great videos coming! 🥰
My man! Been excited for a vid for a while! Binged through just about all your vids recently and I love em. Very chill atmosphere and laid back narration.
Describing Manus as "some Bowser type figure," is hilarious lol. sorry to hear you were not feelin' so hot bro. Hope you have a jolly 2024 and looking forward to vibing out with y'all. 22:08 I actually find Karla charming. Yea, she might be smelly but wouldn't you be after so long in a dungeon?? If you manage to peer under her hat, she's really very cute
I get so damn excited every time I see your videos pop up. I feel like so many other souls content creators don’t really have much new to say at this point, but your videos feel very fresh
Excellent breakdown. They really don’t make much of the pendent do they? Lol. I’ve always took “darkness” as ignorance or unknown. The humans have it, and the humans jump into the age of darkness or the age of unknown. Gwen is the typical God archetype who knows all. Solaire seeks truth or knowledge. On and on. Seems to be the best answer. The dark is a metaphor for the unknown..
3:14 I know that its probably just a slip of the tongue, but Marvelous Chester is the character, Chester Bennington was the former lead singer from the band Linkin Park who tragically took his own life. Just thought I'd put that in here because it might trigger some people, no hard feelings from me at all, and not trying to be a know-it-all smartass
I never really thought of the fact that dark souls 2 is almost a literal follow up to the end of the Dark Souls 1 DLC. That's so cool. I didn't think it was possible to love DS2 more, but here we are
Sigh...Dark Souls has so many good stories to tell. Thank you for highlighting them. - Would someone please tell FromSoft to adapt these into an anime series or novels already.
From a gameplay perspective the artorias dlc fights are basically the formula the rest of the boss fights would stick to going forward. The animation style feels different from the base game and feel like what Bloodborne and ds3 would go on ro refine. 2 not as much(❤u ds2) but Bloodborne and ds3 100%. It was really interesting and kinda funny for me to go back to the original attempts at fights like that in Demon's Souls with flamelurker and false king cause i wiped those guys without a sweat without all the tricks they picked up along the way
Sorry I only just saw this. I made a comment because I didn't see anybody mention this. I know it was a slip of the tongue, but its a bit of a wild one 😮
Maybe Manus pulled the Chosen Undead back in time to prevent them from stopping him in the first place creating an alternative future? I’m sure I’m not the first one to state this though.
Manus’s problem would be that while he created a new timeline, he doesn’t get to experience it. He only lives in a paradox loop now. Dark Souls in summary: Don’t touch that thing.
@@coleozaeta6344 I recently watched dbz when trunks unintentionally created another timeline where cell was able to go back in time to absorb 17 and 18. Couldn’t help but think about it since the dlc is possible with travel. But then again, according to what Solaire said about time, it’s safe to say all of Dark Souls is a big jumble of time travel.
@@Etothe3rdPowerYes, as the witch Beatrice wields magic that was invented by Logan, someone who came centuries after her time (she fought the Four Kings and the Abyss before New Londo was flooded). This confirms that the timelines of Lordran are even more convoluted than Solaire lets on.
@@Jupiter__001_the white soapstone says the flow of time is distorted in Lordran. Could the abyss be the source of the distortion? Oolacile might be stuck in time, for lack of a better word.
@@CornellD.Cavendish That seems likely to me. It would explain dark magic being usable for time travel (i.e. when Manus grabs the player) and also why things are getting worse in Lordran as the Abyss expands. As the fire dims, disparity lessens, so past and future become less and less distinct. For a place so near to the "event horizon" of the darkness, the Abyss, it is a wonder that time flows at all!
So Manus is the body or is the furtive pygmy himself from the opening, how did he become such a twitsted and monster in his form once 'awoken' or bought back from the dead
Firstly,we do not know if he is the Furtive Pygmy; he is "a Primeval Man", not "THE Primeval Man". In fact, a better term for the pygmy would be "primordial". That said, it is still possible, and certainly less terrifying than the idea that Manus was just a random guy and there were once thousands of humans just like him. Secondly, the "human form" as you know it is false. In order to attain it, you must burn a Humanity; in Aldia's own words, this is but a "fleeting form"; a false image. In other words, without the bindings of Fire, Manus' form changed to reflect his state of mind, accompanied by the emergence of the Abyss.
While the details of the pygmies are a bit scarce, it's almost certain that Manus was not one of them. Whether Manus was a creation of them, like Gwynivere or the Silver Knights, or was just bathed in power by them is also a bit unclear. But, from the little we get of what the Pygmies are, mostly from DS3, Manus ain't one of them.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I find your certainty in such a notion concerning. For one, the term used for both Manus and the Pygmies( specifically, the Ringed Knights' descriptions) is the same in Japanese ( " ancient human"), and Manus' tomb shows his original resting place as a depression in the ground, shaped like the general impression of a person. According to his own soul, Manus was " certainly" a human once, and as is stated, he is specifically an " ancient human"; a pygmy. Before he was dug out of his grave, he likely looked like one, too. The only difference? He is, apparently, unsealed. He has no visible " sign".
I’ve always been of the opinion that it wasn’t kaathe who woke up manus, given the context of dark souls 3 and the ringed city, it’s of my belief that frampt had him dug up, such that he would be interred into the ringed city again, as dark souls 3 has a cut object that suggests half light of oolacile took the place in the ringed city of manus, and manus took his place in oolacile, frampt trying to force him back into the city to prevent the spread of the dark, but instead, caused it himself, as gough eludes to
"I like his wolf more"... it's literally just a big wolf lol! Also kind of surprising you can make a video about the DLC and complete forget the catalyst of the entire DLC... the pendant. Thats crazy.
Not only is DaS2 about the shards of Manus, but also Lindelt acting as heirs to the primordial serpents - the Watchdragon Parma is found at Dragon Shrine (base game) or Cathedral of Blue (SotFS) which are both locations linked to Lindelt (places with Monastery and Dragon Charms, respectively). "Seek the King" said by the Emerald Herald is a pretty direct reference to Kingseeker Frampt (the Herald was created by Aldia on behalf of Lindelt). Lindelt, like the Sable Church, are a secret society above and beyond the False Monarchs and would-be Lords.
_Oh, its just another lore video on a dead horse topic, thats... _*_dissapointing._* I was kinda hoping this would be a video essay on the consequence of AoTA on Fromsoftware's game design going forward and how the games became less experimental and more "Safe" as a result, with linear level design and boring uninspired boss fights in open flat arenas that could be interchangeable at random for all the difference they make, bosses that only exist to flex the art departments model and animation skills rather than creating unique and innovative experiences while basically doing nothing with the overall combat mechanics except gradually increasing APM with every installment.
Chester doesnt seem to have much of story outside of being an amoral stranger in a strange land who also likes to be a merchant from time to time when hes not attempting to rob protagonists
I think that Chester received, found or stole the Broken Pendant himself at some point in the future, long after the Chosen Undead's journey, which is why Manus also dragged him into Oolacile's time period.
23:36 she teachs you *Pyromancy* and you find her in the Profound Capital where the fire was linked in a different way....but its where Yhorm and Sigmyr are from. Theory! She linked the flame or had something to do with it and led to her being imprisoned and caused Yhorm to have to link the fire.
Apologies for my tardiness. Medical school strikes again. Notes: 1. I believe Manus himself was someone of great importance in life; possibly the founder of Oolacile. Aside from his catalyst's size size, like the Tin Crystallization Catalyst, it increases the power of sorceries but halves their use. In short,at the very least, Manus is a sorcerer of the same level as Logan; he only casts Dark sorceries currently, but the same could be said of the Oolacilian sorcerers spread across Oolacile Township. 2. I may have detailed this before, but I believe the Abyss Watchers arose from a cult of both Artorias and the Chosen Undead, the reasoning being the three fores ritual. There is a fourth fire that we cannot reach in game, and assets show it depicts Seath. This is unsurprising, as aside from linking the Fire, the Chosen Undead is credited with the defeat of the Four Kings, and the scattering of the Darkwraith covenant. Taken together with the Catacombs and the Undead Settlement, along with the shared Ritual Worker Hat we've cited so many times, it would seem this hero cult was used as the nucleus of a revolution within the former territories of Carthus. The buildings found half sunk in the forest are likely remnants of both Carthus and the period of Farron's independence, both of which had reason to imitate the glory days of Oolacile. There is good reason the Legion were patrons of not only Xanthous scholars, but also,one of the Twin Sages; they were chasing those glory days. Considering the Sage's Coal is guarded by a Darkwraith, that might've been their downfall. 3. At first, I was leery at the idea of the Profaned Flame being related to Alsanna( the Court Sorcerer set refers to it's previous wearers as oracles constantly) , but after some thought, I do think it's possible. As stated before, the Chaos Flame,like the First Flame, has no true location, and the Ivory King likely used the gate beneath Eleum Loyce to reach and slaughter scores of demonkind underneath Lordran. As such, the Profaned Capital could've been founded partly to follow in his footsteps, smothering another " bonfire " of the Chaos Flame, now Profaned Flame, in a specially designed Lordvessel. This may have also been why Wolnir would set his sights on them; much like the Smouldering Lake, his armies were looking for more knowledge on pyromancy. That said, I do still believe they held a relation to Lothric, thanks to the Gargoyles depicted under the Sulyvahn/ Lothric statue. 4. I may have also detailed this before, but I believe that despte her lack of direct presence in his life, Nadalia played a great part in the Iron King's rise, albeit almost completely without his knowledge. All his most competent followers show some influence on the Dark in their abilities; the Pursuer's Mist resembling the one she uses in Brume Tower; Alonne casting Dark Greatsword and guarding a Smelter Wedge; Eygil's Dance Of Fire. There is, of course, the obvious question of why she couldn't reach her beloved King. The answer,I think, is: 5. There are four gates to the Dark Chasm ingame. Of the four, three are operational; the fourth lies under the shrine where you can pray your Hollowing away, but is completely dormant, and cannot be opened. Four gates. Four sisters. 6. Headcanon, but I think Karla might be Nadalia's reincarnation. She has an aptitude for Dark pyromancy, and represents loneliness quite well with her attitude with us. 7.Regarding Gwyn, I need you to look at these quotes with some hindsight: " Once, the Lord Of Light banished Dark, and all that stemmed from humanity. And Men assumed a fleeting form. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie!" " Men trust fully in the illusion of life...but is that so wrong? A construction, a facade, and yet, a world full of warmth and resplendence." "The fire will fade, and Dark will become a curse. Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. " How do you gain a human form in Dark Souls 1? You burn a humanity. You cannot gain it by using a humanity; all it does is give you soft humanity in store. You can only reverse your Hollowing by burning it. " And Men assumed a fleeting form." Gwyn didn't " bind" humanity to the Flame for the sake of linking it; the only reason humans as we know them exist is because of this " binding". Without it: " Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. " Manus' immortality, and that of his children, as well as their effect on time, is a result of this logic: " Light is time, and the reversal of it's effects is a forbidden art." Light is time.... And Man is Dark. The Dark is anathema to the laws of the world, even though it is also their source; from the Dark they came, after all. The Flame used the raw materials of the Dark to create what we know as the world. Humans, without a bond to the Flame, are creatures like Manus; beings who could wreak kingdoms and civilisations over something as simple as.... A pendant. Some desire of theirs. Anything. Humans are not content; not naturally; not without warmth. "The darkness echoes words of despair, reducing the defense of opponents. The Dark blankets the world in black. A thing of tranquility, a thing serene." To succumb to Dark is to become true to ourselves; to become " human" by casting off what we once believed to be the " human form". To become as Manus, Kaathe and their kin; beings of desire above all else, harbingers of entropy in this world of Disparity. To be defined and shackled by our desires... There is nothing less demeaning. Gwyn bound us, yes, but only because we, our ancestors, accepted that binding. Why? Because even if warmth is a lie... Is that so wrong?
It bothers me rather substantially that DS3 Retcons the origin of the Abyss and downplays the significance of both Manus & the Children of Dark *hard*. Not only do they insist that the Abyss has existed since the foundation of the Ringed City, they seriously mean to tell us that Humanity has been literally weaponisng it for eons? Well before the time of Manus and the Children of Dark? Entities that are scarcely even referenced??? The biggest offender in regards to the lore however is Aldritch... apparently the pathetic pile of sludge obtained a level of Darkness inaccessible to humanity; a Darkness so intense that it was dubbed "The Deep". Except that doesn't make any sense??? Do they mean to imply a pile of goo has achieved a level of Dark beyond the literal Father of the Abyss? Beyond the beings literally born from the Darkness of Humanity? Yeah, no. Inconsistent writing is garbage.
7:50 I Thought He Grabbed The "Chosen Undead" Because He Wanted The "Broken Pendant" Or Something
Damn howd i forget about that one. Haha
Kaathe: "You know what you guys need?"
To devour the humanity of other humans.
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Food for thought: Manus pulls us from the past, getting him "killed."
Gough reflects "Thy undoing is always if thine own making"
i just noticed a connection that i didnt see befoe.
Manus has been driven wild and is no more than a crazed beast when we find him, yet even in this mindless, destructive and absolutely crazy state, he recognizes the broken pendant we have and "wants" it so much that he trancendes time to pull us and the pendant into the past, ultimately sealing his fate because he cant control his want.
now, in DS2 you have Manus' strongest shard beeing Nashandra, the manifestation of Manus' want, pulling all the strings because she still retains her fathers uncontrollable want.
i just thought that is a very neat touch.
Dude blew ny mind
Ironically the game tells you she’s the smallest and weakest of all the shards of Manus, not the biggest and strongest.
I do agree that his want was his undoing and was excessively uncontrollable which honestly just shows how powerful Manus was in the first place if his weakest shard could topple a kingdom as strong as Drangleic.
So i totally forgot about the broken pendant but it makes the video funnier in that it looks like im tryna deny any wrong doing on the undeads part
Heh
Apologies for my tardiness. Medical school strikes again.
This is a copy of my comment. I was a little late.
Notes:
1. I believe Manus himself was someone of great importance in life; possibly the founder of Oolacile. Aside from his catalyst's size, like the Tin Crystallization Catalyst, it increases the power of sorceries but halves their use. In short,at the very least, Manus is a sorcerer of the same level as Logan; he only casts Dark sorceries currently, but the same could be said of the Oolacilian sorcerers spread across Oolacile Township.
2. I may have detailed this before, but I believe the Abyss Watchers arose from a cult of both Artorias and the Chosen Undead, the reasoning being the three fires ritual. There is a fourth fire that we cannot reach in game, and assets show it depicts Seath. This is unsurprising, as aside from linking the Fire, the Chosen Undead is credited with the defeat of the Four Kings, and the scattering of the Darkwraith covenant.
Taken together with the Catacombs and the Undead Settlement, along with the shared Ritual Worker Hat we've cited so many times, it would seem this hero cult was used as the nucleus of a revolution within the former territories of Carthus. The buildings found half sunk in the forest are likely remnants of both Carthus and the period of Farron's independence, both of which had reason to imitate the glory days of Oolacile. There is good reason the Legion were patrons of not only Xanthous scholars, but also,one of the Twin Sages; they were chasing those glory days.
Considering the Sage's Coal is guarded by a Darkwraith, that might've been their downfall.
3. At first, I was leery at the idea of the Profaned Flame being related to Alsanna( the Court Sorcerer set refers to it's previous wearers as oracles constantly) , but after some thought, I do think it's possible. As stated before, the Chaos Flame,like the First Flame, has no true location, and the Ivory King likely used the gate beneath Eleum Loyce to reach and slaughter scores of demonkind underneath Lordran. As such, the Profaned Capital could've been founded partly to follow in his footsteps, smothering another " bonfire " of the Chaos Flame, now Profaned Flame, in a specially designed Lordvessel. This may have also been why Wolnir would set his sights on them; much like the Smouldering Lake, his armies were looking for more knowledge on pyromancy. That said, I do still believe they held a relation to Lothric, thanks to the Gargoyles depicted under the Sulyvahn/ Lothric statue.
4. I may have also detailed this before, but I believe that despte her lack of direct presence in his life, Nadalia played a great part in the Iron King's rise, albeit almost completely without his knowledge. All his most competent followers show some influence on the Dark in their abilities; the Pursuer's Mist resembling the one she uses in Brume Tower; Alonne casting Dark Greatsword and guarding a Smelter Wedge; Eygil's Dance Of Fire. There is, of course, the obvious question of why she couldn't reach her beloved King. The answer,I think, is:
5. There are four gates to the Dark Chasm ingame. Of the four, three are operational; the fourth lies under the shrine where you can pray your Hollowing away, but is completely dormant, and cannot be opened.
Four gates.
Four sisters.
6. Headcanon, but I think Karla might be Nadalia's reincarnation. She has an aptitude for Dark pyromancy, and represents loneliness quite well with her attitude with us.
7.Regarding Gwyn, I need you to look at these quotes with some hindsight:
" Once, the Lord Of Light banished Dark, and all that stemmed from humanity. And Men assumed a fleeting form. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie!"
" Men trust fully in the illusion of life...but is that so wrong? A construction, a facade, and yet, a world full of warmth and resplendence."
"The fire will fade, and Dark will become a curse. Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. "
How do you gain a human form in Dark Souls 1?
You burn a humanity.
You cannot gain it by using a humanity; all it does is give you soft humanity in store. You can only reverse your Hollowing by burning it.
" And Men assumed a fleeting form."
Gwyn didn't " bind" humanity to the Flame for the sake of linking it; the only reason humans as we know them exist is because of this " binding". Without it:
" Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. "
Manus' immortality, and that of his children, as well as their effect on time, is a result of this logic:
" Light is time, and the reversal of it's effects is a forbidden art."
Light is time....
And Man is Dark.
The Dark is anathema to the laws of the world, even though it is also their source; from the Dark they came, after all. The Flame used the raw materials of the Dark to create what we know as the world.
Humans, without a bond to the Flame, are creatures like Manus; beings who could wreak kingdoms and civilisations over something as simple as....
A pendant.
Some desire of theirs.
Anything.
Humans are not content; not naturally; not without warmth.
"The darkness echoes words of despair, reducing the defense of opponents.
The Dark blankets the world in black.
A thing of tranquility, a thing serene."
To succumb to Dark is to become true to ourselves; to become " human" by casting off what we once believed to be the " human form". To become as Manus, Kaathe and their kin; beings of desire above all else, harbingers of entropy in this world of Disparity.
To be defined and shackled by our desires...
There is nothing less demeaning.
Gwyn bound us, yes, but only because we, our ancestors, accepted that binding.
Why?
Because even if warmth is a lie...
Is that so wrong?
Holy shit you always have the most insightful comments, i totally agree about manus being someone of import to oolacile or at the very least whatever came before it, and i also remember you mention that about the abyss watchers i really wish i wouldve remembered that while recording this video because i love that theory, i was coming off of being sick plus the alchemy but i gotta find an opportunity to mention that because i totally agree
@@TheHonoredMadman Good morning.
Thank you. You being able to remember these is quite the feat!
Thank you so much!
Also, glad to see it has passed. Hope you are in good health.
@@alyseleem2692man it's almost a pity you're in medichal school, you for sure have some banger lore videos in you that we'll never get to see hahah
I guess that Kaathe probably wanted the people of Oolacile to ressurect Manus so that he could become the new Dark Lord, but they had other ideas, as the dark serpent does complain about "fools" who have failed him before.
I mean, Gywns greasy plan did work for like 100,000 years or something. The guy was probably pretty happy with the results
And not only that he was basically vindicated by all the actions of the abyss and its agents
Bro, it blows my mind how you can put out unique description and analysis on DS1 so plainly and clearly then rip a bong rofl. I love it- keep it up!
Bro hit the bong at the end
It's interesting to make Karla a possible descendent of the abyss since, iirc Zullie isn't ever mentioned as such. I choose to believe both that Zullie is Karla's mom and that Karla's got that abyss in her so Zullie having Manus DNA is basically bonus lore.
Also do the video essays i wanna hear em.
Ha! You might have missed one perfect twin peaks reference opportunity but that reference you made about imperfect courage made up for it entirely.
Anyway, I know our character finishes what Artorias started but I think we shouldn't discount him too much. He still confronted the dark and he doubtless must have realised he was a bit afraid. Maybe he was still the most qualified warrior to do it, despite his fear. And he still laid down his own life to protect Sif, which to me suggests true courage.
Reminds me of that dialogue from the first ASOIAF book; "can someone still be brave even when he's afraid?"
"That is the only time he *can* be brave"
Perfect use of that quote. Love ASOIAF
Don't forget that the Abyss is just straight up OP! 🤔 It kinda always won where it appeared!
Well except for against the Farron legion, but then again a sufficient amount of motivated crackheads is enough to make anything withdraw.
@@morales6224 "motivated crackhead"...Reminds me of my first few DS3 characters lol
We all have a taste for copper wiring at some point or another.
The Ivory king is the ultra gigachad of darksouls 2,he tamed a piece of friggin Manus,he faced the embodiment of the demons themselves which is the flame of chaos AND EVEN BURNED BY IT he is a force to be reckoned with.
Yeah he always seemed like the biggest badass of all ppl I’ve met in DS2
Only correction here, he didn’t tame a piece of manus, Alsanna was actually slowly draining his power, as the eleum loyce sword tells you, he’s not a gigachad bc he tamed her, she’s killing him, slowly, and he upon finding out, just didn’t care, and gave her the sword to say he loved her anyway, then plunged into the chaos before he lost more power
@@t-mango2491The sword description doesnt implicitly say she drains the strength of the ivory king,the ivory king was a mortal afterall and could also be old age.Alsanna has an atipical relationship with the king unlike any of the fragments of Manus,she had no reason to guard the old chaos after the ivory king basically became bbq and also to use her ice powers to contain it.She willingly accepts the souls of Loyce knights you save from the old chaos to comfort them.These 3 reasons alone make me really doubt that she was like Nashandra or Nadalia.
@@Trimondius I was not arguing alsanna is not a good person, but Including the Eleum loyce description “Eleum Loyce
Curved sword forged from the soul of Alsanna.
Formed by two curious blades,
this sword can restore an ally's HP
with a hit from its strong attack.
The enigmatic Alsanna quietly found a place
at the Ivory King's side, and when his strength
was fully drained, he conferred this sword,
inscribed with the name of the land, to her.” And the chime of want description
“…After taking their shapes, they courted monarchs of considerable power, which they desired to make their own. “ the word “drained” implies the act was deliberate and the chime of want indicates that children of the dark do this, it isn’t believed by many to be an act of malice on her part, but she still did in fact drain his strength
I always enjoy the rambly thoughts my dude, thanks for maintaining your Ability to keep DS2 in the fold of the lore.
Calling Manus a Bowser-type figure gave me a very very funny mental image.
You know
Strange as it may be
I'd like to see Bowser in a souls game. I feel like he could work.
The age of turtles, and turtle adjacent creatures.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 is that the age of the deep sea which Aldrich dreamed of?
“So long, gay Manus!”
😭 the broken pendant is how u start the dlc, he didn’t grab us for nothing
Forgot to mention that lol i mustve already grabbed it at some point in the run because i forgot all about it haha
Karla's "But I am guilty, a wretched child of the Abyss" comment has always puzzled me because all humans are wretched children of the Abyss, something Karla actually knows herself. Then there are hints that Zullie and Alva are her parents which throws a spanner into the works that Karla is Manus' child, unless we consider grandchild as acceptable. While I don't disagree with the idea that Karla is referring to Manus when she says she's a wretched child of the Abyss, I feel like the lore community hasn't exhausted the other possibilities with what it could really mean. One possibility could be that she's guilty of heretical abyssal sorceries, which makes even more sense when she says she's no different to the monstrosities in the Profaned Capital. Perhaps she was one that didn't mutate.
The abyss watchers absolutely did not learn anything from Artorias. They also fell to the abyss, although they ironically did far more to fight the abyss than Artorias ever did before succumbing. It's why their eyes glow red and they fight each other. They vowed to stamp out the abyss, wherever it emerged, and so they uphold their vows forever, until the ashen one comes along and encourages their return to the throne
I totally agree, Of course they fell to the abyss, they were( much like artorias) dealing with something outside their comprehension. I only meant that they learned to destroy kingdoms before they fell to the abyss as opposed to artorias who went in blind after the shit had hit the fan in oolacile
"children are a product of their environment" Is a take I'm surprised hasn't been talked about more in regards to the shards of Manus, so good on you for touching on it! Banger vid as always, madman.
I caught that Twin Peaks reference about imperfect courage. You should do some theory videos about that amazing series.
I have some notes for a video i wanted to on MIKE
@@TheHonoredMadman Id love to see a video about Mike. I’m interested in your thoughts on some of the things “the arm” says in the most recent season. I feel like the arm and his doppelgänger played a big part in manipulating Cooper.
I really enjoyed this one! I've been playing Dark Souls 3, and I defeated the Abyss Watchers yesterday! MAN! I had no idea how that fight was going to go. After the three were beaten, I was like:' Okay. Now what?' THEN, Phase 2 happened! Holy S%#@! When that, essence, wolfblood, or whatever that was, came together into ONE! Then said guy burst into flames AND got a HUGE flaming sword, I was like:' OH S%#@! A Lord of Cinder!' I just lit the three fires to open that door, I had NO IDEA he was even there! Took a couple of tries, but I got him! Thanks to this GREAT video, I understand these guys a lot more! Definitely one of my coolest fights, thus far! Keep these great videos coming! 🥰
My man! Been excited for a vid for a while! Binged through just about all your vids recently and I love em. Very chill atmosphere and laid back narration.
Describing Manus as "some Bowser type figure," is hilarious lol. sorry to hear you were not feelin' so hot bro. Hope you have a jolly 2024 and looking forward to vibing out with y'all.
22:08 I actually find Karla charming. Yea, she might be smelly but wouldn't you be after so long in a dungeon?? If you manage to peer under her hat, she's really very cute
I like the titles little reference. Very nice!
I get so damn excited every time I see your videos pop up. I feel like so many other souls content creators don’t really have much new to say at this point, but your videos feel very fresh
I truly love your style of lore videos please make more I love for dark souls remastered lore and elden ring lore
Excellent breakdown. They really don’t make much of the pendent do they? Lol.
I’ve always took “darkness” as ignorance or unknown.
The humans have it, and the humans jump into the age of darkness or the age of unknown.
Gwen is the typical God archetype who knows all.
Solaire seeks truth or knowledge.
On and on. Seems to be the best answer.
The dark is a metaphor for the unknown..
"Light banishes Dark and reveals all. Whether this is desired, is another matter."
The ivory king managed to rizz the evil out of manus
great video! I hope you do one on the Deep
Definitely
Speaking of Chester... does Manus technically count as a cleric beast or great old one?
I’m so glad you’re back, you genuinely make the best videos out there. Most enjoyable to listen to imo
Been playing ds2 for the first time recently and I love it. Thanks for your vids and happy new year man
I subbed after the bong rip
Giants always lose in fromsoft games, like how bro yall are literally 5 times bigger & stronger
Sif Is Such A Good Boy
I think hes a girl
Doesn't matter That thing dessert to die against my blade
@@DoomUvb wrong
@@ThommyofThenn no
@@DoomUvb not correct
Will be watching this after work tomorrow morning
3:14 I know that its probably just a slip of the tongue, but Marvelous Chester is the character, Chester Bennington was the former lead singer from the band Linkin Park who tragically took his own life.
Just thought I'd put that in here because it might trigger some people, no hard feelings from me at all, and not trying to be a know-it-all smartass
I never really thought of the fact that dark souls 2 is almost a literal follow up to the end of the Dark Souls 1 DLC. That's so cool. I didn't think it was possible to love DS2 more, but here we are
Perfect timing for a toke break
The sun isn't illusory, the player just explores Darkroot at night
Let’s go! Excited for this one
Sigh...Dark Souls has so many good stories to tell. Thank you for highlighting them. - Would someone please tell FromSoft to adapt these into an anime series or novels already.
Why?
My dumbass never realized Artorias had a broken arm... no wonder he swings only one handed lmao
I love these videos man, keep up the good work
I’d be interested in seeing a video on the significance of crystals across the serieses.
Of not Oolacile than someone else would. That primordial serpent definitely would find different pawn to manipulate to meddle with abyss.
From a gameplay perspective the artorias dlc fights are basically the formula the rest of the boss fights would stick to going forward. The animation style feels different from the base game and feel like what Bloodborne and ds3 would go on ro refine. 2 not as much(❤u ds2) but Bloodborne and ds3 100%. It was really interesting and kinda funny for me to go back to the original attempts at fights like that in Demon's Souls with flamelurker and false king cause i wiped those guys without a sweat without all the tricks they picked up along the way
That bong rip at the end was devious.
You keep forgetting in the video that nobody besides the player in ds1 knows that Artorias didn't stamp out the abyss>~
Great video ps whst your thoughts on farron legion
Definitely
Marvelous Chester Bennington, my god lol
Sorry I only just saw this. I made a comment because I didn't see anybody mention this. I know it was a slip of the tongue, but its a bit of a wild one 😮
Maybe Manus pulled the Chosen Undead back in time to prevent them from stopping him in the first place creating an alternative future? I’m sure I’m not the first one to state this though.
Manus’s problem would be that while he created a new timeline, he doesn’t get to experience it. He only lives in a paradox loop now. Dark Souls in summary: Don’t touch that thing.
@@coleozaeta6344 I recently watched dbz when trunks unintentionally created another timeline where cell was able to go back in time to absorb 17 and 18. Couldn’t help but think about it since the dlc is possible with travel. But then again, according to what Solaire said about time, it’s safe to say all of Dark Souls is a big jumble of time travel.
@@Etothe3rdPowerYes, as the witch Beatrice wields magic that was invented by Logan, someone who came centuries after her time (she fought the Four Kings and the Abyss before New Londo was flooded). This confirms that the timelines of Lordran are even more convoluted than Solaire lets on.
@@Jupiter__001_the white soapstone says the flow of time is distorted in Lordran. Could the abyss be the source of the distortion? Oolacile might be stuck in time, for lack of a better word.
@@CornellD.Cavendish That seems likely to me. It would explain dark magic being usable for time travel (i.e. when Manus grabs the player) and also why things are getting worse in Lordran as the Abyss expands. As the fire dims, disparity lessens, so past and future become less and less distinct. For a place so near to the "event horizon" of the darkness, the Abyss, it is a wonder that time flows at all!
So Manus is the body or is the furtive pygmy himself from the opening, how did he become such a twitsted and monster in his form once 'awoken' or bought back from the dead
Firstly,we do not know if he is the Furtive Pygmy; he is "a Primeval Man", not "THE Primeval Man". In fact, a better term for the pygmy would be "primordial". That said, it is still possible, and certainly less terrifying than the idea that Manus was just a random guy and there were once thousands of humans just like him.
Secondly, the "human form" as you know it is false. In order to attain it, you must burn a Humanity; in Aldia's own words, this is but a "fleeting form"; a false image. In other words, without the bindings of Fire, Manus' form changed to reflect his state of mind, accompanied by the emergence of the Abyss.
While the details of the pygmies are a bit scarce, it's almost certain that Manus was not one of them. Whether Manus was a creation of them, like Gwynivere or the Silver Knights, or was just bathed in power by them is also a bit unclear. But, from the little we get of what the Pygmies are, mostly from DS3, Manus ain't one of them.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I find your certainty in such a notion concerning.
For one, the term used for both Manus and the Pygmies( specifically, the Ringed Knights' descriptions) is the same in Japanese ( " ancient human"), and Manus' tomb shows his original resting place as a depression in the ground, shaped like the general impression of a person. According to his own soul, Manus was " certainly" a human once, and as is stated, he is specifically an " ancient human"; a pygmy. Before he was dug out of his grave, he likely looked like one, too.
The only difference?
He is, apparently, unsealed. He has no visible " sign".
I’ve always been of the opinion that it wasn’t kaathe who woke up manus, given the context of dark souls 3 and the ringed city, it’s of my belief that frampt had him dug up, such that he would be interred into the ringed city again, as dark souls 3 has a cut object that suggests half light of oolacile took the place in the ringed city of manus, and manus took his place in oolacile, frampt trying to force him back into the city to prevent the spread of the dark, but instead, caused it himself, as gough eludes to
I see your Dale Cooper/Twin Peaks reference
The consequences were spam roll to win while fighting Erdtree Avatar 10 times.
I need a 1 gram dab for this shit
"I like his wolf more"... it's literally just a big wolf lol!
Also kind of surprising you can make a video about the DLC and complete forget the catalyst of the entire DLC... the pendant. Thats crazy.
Not only is DaS2 about the shards of Manus, but also Lindelt acting as heirs to the primordial serpents - the Watchdragon Parma is found at Dragon Shrine (base game) or Cathedral of Blue (SotFS) which are both locations linked to Lindelt (places with Monastery and Dragon Charms, respectively).
"Seek the King" said by the Emerald Herald is a pretty direct reference to Kingseeker Frampt (the Herald was created by Aldia on behalf of Lindelt).
Lindelt, like the Sable Church, are a secret society above and beyond the False Monarchs and would-be Lords.
Nice video man
Excellent vid.
Please do some Twin Peaks stuff but ALSO keep up the Fromsoftware content
Awesome video
Looking forward to the rats video.
A Twin Peaks fan.
words and comments and sh..tuff
Watch with subtitles Chester Bennington was pulled in to the past lol
_Oh, its just another lore video on a dead horse topic, thats... _*_dissapointing._*
I was kinda hoping this would be a video essay on the consequence of AoTA on Fromsoftware's game design going forward and how the games became less experimental and more "Safe" as a result, with linear level design and boring uninspired boss fights in open flat arenas that could be interchangeable at random for all the difference they make, bosses that only exist to flex the art departments model and animation skills rather than creating unique and innovative experiences while basically doing nothing with the overall combat mechanics except gradually increasing APM with every installment.
Im not gonna lie i actually do want to one about how this impacted game design. Possibly a part 2 since this was mainly lore centered
Cool vid bro.😺
2 Minotaurs? Where’s the 2nd?
any lore about characters marvelous chester and references
Chester doesnt seem to have much of story outside of being an amoral stranger in a strange land who also likes to be a merchant from time to time when hes not attempting to rob protagonists
I think that Chester received, found or stole the Broken Pendant himself at some point in the future, long after the Chosen Undead's journey, which is why Manus also dragged him into Oolacile's time period.
23:36 she teachs you *Pyromancy* and you find her in the Profound Capital where the fire was linked in a different way....but its where Yhorm and Sigmyr are from. Theory! She linked the flame or had something to do with it and led to her being imprisoned and caused Yhorm to have to link the fire.
Also don't park on the grass on video my friend (mute that shit).
Apologies for my tardiness. Medical school strikes again.
Notes:
1. I believe Manus himself was someone of great importance in life; possibly the founder of Oolacile. Aside from his catalyst's size size, like the Tin Crystallization Catalyst, it increases the power of sorceries but halves their use. In short,at the very least, Manus is a sorcerer of the same level as Logan; he only casts Dark sorceries currently, but the same could be said of the Oolacilian sorcerers spread across Oolacile Township.
2. I may have detailed this before, but I believe the Abyss Watchers arose from a cult of both Artorias and the Chosen Undead, the reasoning being the three fores ritual. There is a fourth fire that we cannot reach in game, and assets show it depicts Seath. This is unsurprising, as aside from linking the Fire, the Chosen Undead is credited with the defeat of the Four Kings, and the scattering of the Darkwraith covenant.
Taken together with the Catacombs and the Undead Settlement, along with the shared Ritual Worker Hat we've cited so many times, it would seem this hero cult was used as the nucleus of a revolution within the former territories of Carthus. The buildings found half sunk in the forest are likely remnants of both Carthus and the period of Farron's independence, both of which had reason to imitate the glory days of Oolacile. There is good reason the Legion were patrons of not only Xanthous scholars, but also,one of the Twin Sages; they were chasing those glory days.
Considering the Sage's Coal is guarded by a Darkwraith, that might've been their downfall.
3. At first, I was leery at the idea of the Profaned Flame being related to Alsanna( the Court Sorcerer set refers to it's previous wearers as oracles constantly) , but after some thought, I do think it's possible. As stated before, the Chaos Flame,like the First Flame, has no true location, and the Ivory King likely used the gate beneath Eleum Loyce to reach and slaughter scores of demonkind underneath Lordran. As such, the Profaned Capital could've been founded partly to follow in his footsteps, smothering another " bonfire " of the Chaos Flame, now Profaned Flame, in a specially designed Lordvessel. This may have also been why Wolnir would set his sights on them; much like the Smouldering Lake, his armies were looking for more knowledge on pyromancy. That said, I do still believe they held a relation to Lothric, thanks to the Gargoyles depicted under the Sulyvahn/ Lothric statue.
4. I may have also detailed this before, but I believe that despte her lack of direct presence in his life, Nadalia played a great part in the Iron King's rise, albeit almost completely without his knowledge. All his most competent followers show some influence on the Dark in their abilities; the Pursuer's Mist resembling the one she uses in Brume Tower; Alonne casting Dark Greatsword and guarding a Smelter Wedge; Eygil's Dance Of Fire. There is, of course, the obvious question of why she couldn't reach her beloved King. The answer,I think, is:
5. There are four gates to the Dark Chasm ingame. Of the four, three are operational; the fourth lies under the shrine where you can pray your Hollowing away, but is completely dormant, and cannot be opened.
Four gates.
Four sisters.
6. Headcanon, but I think Karla might be Nadalia's reincarnation. She has an aptitude for Dark pyromancy, and represents loneliness quite well with her attitude with us.
7.Regarding Gwyn, I need you to look at these quotes with some hindsight:
" Once, the Lord Of Light banished Dark, and all that stemmed from humanity. And Men assumed a fleeting form. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie!"
" Men trust fully in the illusion of life...but is that so wrong? A construction, a facade, and yet, a world full of warmth and resplendence."
"The fire will fade, and Dark will become a curse. Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. "
How do you gain a human form in Dark Souls 1?
You burn a humanity.
You cannot gain it by using a humanity; all it does is give you soft humanity in store. You can only reverse your Hollowing by burning it.
" And Men assumed a fleeting form."
Gwyn didn't " bind" humanity to the Flame for the sake of linking it; the only reason humans as we know them exist is because of this " binding". Without it:
" Men will be free from death, left to wander eternally. "
Manus' immortality, and that of his children, as well as their effect on time, is a result of this logic:
" Light is time, and the reversal of it's effects is a forbidden art."
Light is time....
And Man is Dark.
The Dark is anathema to the laws of the world, even though it is also their source; from the Dark they came, after all. The Flame used the raw materials of the Dark to create what we know as the world.
Humans, without a bond to the Flame, are creatures like Manus; beings who could wreak kingdoms and civilisations over something as simple as....
A pendant.
Some desire of theirs.
Anything.
Humans are not content; not naturally; not without warmth.
"The darkness echoes words of despair, reducing the defense of opponents.
The Dark blankets the world in black.
A thing of tranquility, a thing serene."
To succumb to Dark is to become true to ourselves; to become " human" by casting off what we once believed to be the " human form". To become as Manus, Kaathe and their kin; beings of desire above all else, harbingers of entropy in this world of Disparity.
To be defined and shackled by our desires...
There is nothing less demeaning.
Gwyn bound us, yes, but only because we, our ancestors, accepted that binding.
Why?
Because even if warmth is a lie...
Is that so wrong?
Based Sif enjoyer detected. Sif is best girl. The gooderest, even.
stop gettin sick thank you😢
It bothers me rather substantially that DS3 Retcons the origin of the Abyss and downplays the significance of both Manus & the Children of Dark *hard*.
Not only do they insist that the Abyss has existed since the foundation of the Ringed City, they seriously mean to tell us that Humanity has been literally weaponisng it for eons? Well before the time of Manus and the Children of Dark? Entities that are scarcely even referenced???
The biggest offender in regards to the lore however is Aldritch... apparently the pathetic pile of sludge obtained a level of Darkness inaccessible to humanity; a Darkness so intense that it was dubbed "The Deep".
Except that doesn't make any sense??? Do they mean to imply a pile of goo has achieved a level of Dark beyond the literal Father of the Abyss? Beyond the beings literally born from the Darkness of Humanity?
Yeah, no. Inconsistent writing is garbage.
You're already a video essayist
I prefer video ramblist
great vid, as always!
A Twin Peaks fan.
Great video