The ultimate Iai spirit slash guide | Iceborne
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- ►Useful links:
⭐ Frame data: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
⭐ LS attack table: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
⭐ More LS info data: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
►Notes:
1) Buttons are displayed for the PS4 controller because that's what I use to play. If you want to know what are the buttons for Xbox: R2=RT, X=A, O=B, △=Y.
2) Quick sheath data and level comparison with Special Sheath: / 1222225403152076800 + yes, critical draw and punishing draw work on both ISS and IS.
3) As written in the LS attack table, ISS's second hit doesn't get the Spirit gauge's multiplier, no matter if you time it correctly or not.
4) The issue with hyper armor at 16:33 is not only on ISS, but with Foresight Slash as well: / 1257634328697278465
5) First hit only on ISS extra clip: / 1257635494407688192
6) Hyper armor substitutes temporal mantle: / 1257636299013607425
7) No registered hit on ISS extra clip: / 1242616910866452480
8) Since you get damaged when you use ISS, you can't play in Felyne Heroics using it, however, it is possible to perform 1 or maybe 2 ISS in Heroics (may depend on the attack of the monster you want to counter).
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0:00 Beginning
0:41 Chapter 1 Special Sheath
2:17 Chapter 2 Iai Spirit Slash and Iai Slash
5:23 Chapter 3 iFrames and counter-frames
10:29 Chapter 4 Hyper armor
13:10 Chapter 5 issues
23:24 Conclusion - Ігри
Welcome to the comment section! Before asking questions, please check the description: I posted all the useful links and added extra notes!
I hope you enjoyed the Guide ᕕ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ See ya in the next video!!
► 0:41 Chapter 1 Special Sheath
► 2:17 Chapter 2 Iai Spirit Slash and Iai Slash
► 5:23 Chapter 3 iFrames and counter-frames
► 10:29 Chapter 4 Hyper armor
► 13:10 Chapter 5 issues
► 23:24 Conclusion
In your rajang example with the pins
In the first you countered through the side so you evade the active hitbox in 14 frames
But in you second example you tried to go through rajang and were still in the active hitbox
So it's not the distance to the hunter
Or am I wrong here?
@@Darko807 I said it's the distance between the Rajang and the hunter because during the first part of the pin, from when Rajang starts moving to where he actually grabs you, that hitbox lasts less than 14 frames, so you can evade it with ISS, BUT the final animation where he's basically still at the end, lasts longer than 14 frames so you can't ISS through it.
@@PeppoLS ah ok thanks for the quick answer :)
u sure it evade extender dosnt work on is and iss? i felt like its way easier with that skill
At 20:45 why do you get a stagger on Tigrex with the first hit of ISS?
I didn't expect a master class, but this is way better than i expected
Well it is peppo. A long sword speedrunner.
First when I saw the 25 minutes video, i was like: "wait, that long for a move?!" and then "so far, the best master class on LS". I learned a lot! Thanks Master Peppo Chief!
this feels like i'm being lectured in the field by Master Peppo himself.. i like this.
Thanks for the lecture with so many details and illustration. As a LS player I really appreciate that.
The first hit of ISS has 0 part value so that a flinch or tail cut or something like that won't make you miss the second hit...
SO WHY ISN'T THAT THE CASE FOR HELMBREAKER
Yeah that shits dumb.
i've had my helmbreaker miss a lot of times because the thrust, flinches/staggers the monster
If I had a dollar for every helmbreaker I whiffed cuz thrust procced a clagger I could pay Capcom to alter thrust's part mod to 0
@@Sethg98 XD
what does part value mean
nvm i watched the video for like 2 minutes and they mention it lol
This was super interesting. I noticed recently that I wasn't using the the Iai spirit slash just because it feels so inconsistent, both the hits and my timing. I'm mostly using it when the monster attacks me while I happened to be in Iai stance. I am never really planning on using it. But thanks that was quite informative! I do hope they fix these delayed hits in future titles.
8:50 The reason you can time a thing is because you're not reacting blindly. You have context of your situation and are able to anticipate the monster attacking you. That said timing a 5 frame window is easier said than done in a game like monster hunter. But that's why 1 frame windows aren't impossible in other games such as fighting games or rhythm games.
Beautiful guide! Really appreciate the effort that went into the video,all the information presented was easily digestible!
This was one of those gems you occasionally find on UA-cam. I a absolutely loved it, thank you so much, Peppo!
I can feel you poured so much MH love into making this video
This is actually amazing, such a detailed guide. Thank you very much for your help!
Me after watching this guide on every monster: *HAHA foresight go brrr*
Legendblast Infinity foresight and evade window. Yes
Absolute most informative all-around video ever. Been playing for 4 years and learned more in this one vid than in 50 other vids I've watched. Thanks Peppo!!
A wonderful work. The most deep and well organized guide i've ever seen for this game. Well done and thank you very much.
Amazingly informative and the most easily understood video I have seen on this subject. Well done, @Peppo.
Absolutely amazing. One of the best videos i ever watched on this app
This guide is a masterpiece through and through. Extremely helpful, thank you!
Fantastica spiegazione, estremamente dettagliata e critica al punto giusto. Un video a tutto tondo, complimenti!
Thank you so much for the in depth explanation on how it all works out in this game. hopefully they really are fix the hitbox problem when the monster hunter Rise come out, you did a really great, thoughtful and thorough research with all the , mv and all the other stuffs that many people might not recognize before. Keep it up the great work, always love to see your videos and really looking forward to the next !
So much effort put in this video! Thank you very much for your hard work, helped me a lot!
I love this video cuz peppo put the old music from older monster hunter in it😂 feels like home
Wow great vid sensei, u did a lot of researches. And i wish i can use LS as clean as u.
Thanks for this helpful info dude 😁
Grazie Peppo.
Ho fatto diverse speedrun di LS non al tuo livello EH, ma molte cose le sapevo...ma non avrei saputo come spiegarle quindi GRAZIE!
Ottimo video e mi auguro di incrociarti prima o poi si Rise!
If you are a volunteer, please add Japanese subtitles to this video. Please.🙇♂️
日本語ムズイ😅
@@PeppoLS and french if possible 👀
@@PeppoLS Also French me, if possible, as well. French the bejeezus out of me... With Japanese subtitles. While speaking German, though. And eating Mexican. While listening to an anime spoken in Afrikaans. Lastly, but not leastly, while you're reading a book with your fingers in braille that's somehow also written in Islamic.
"The video ends here" is so much better than saying "The end" haha. Thanks for all the tips. I feel like I can become an LS speedrunner but I switch out my weapons too much which makes me a worse player I think overall (each weapon requires different timings for each monster).
Yeah this is how I was when I switched from long sword back to charge blade. I got rekt by a tempered teostra.
Thank you to take time to do video like this. I really appreciate that type of content. Longsword is life master peppo!!!!
Thank you Peppo. Really appreciate videos with so much info.
Just bought the game a few days ago. Really helpful video. Thanks for doing this!
THANK YOU WOW this is the most informational video game mechanics guide ive ever watched
Thank you for putting so much effort into this video it was very informal and helpful!
this video has been very helpful! i can't tell you how many times i badly want to perform forsight slash during the 3rd hit of the 3rd spirit combo move. now i am able to spirit slash to safety!
Loads of good info within the video.. lots of thought and effort put into it.. well done
Thank you for the informative video. Playing LS is a lot of fun and there are ton of things that I need to learn especially the combo moves. This is my first MH game and looking forward for MH rise. Keep posting tutorials 😊 Hopefully m, you will do a tutorial of all LS moves and combinations that exist for both MHW / Iceborne 🙏
By far one of the best tutorial in general. Splendid work
I rarely land it, but the feeling you get from cutting off a tail with the move perfectly timed is 👌😩👌
This will be a great help to my LS game, thank you Peppo!!
im not particularly good at monster hunter and im tying to learn the LS after playing the hammer for like 50-60 hours and watching you play is awesome and this is really helpful for getting the timing down on these dope looking moves so cheers
This guide is very well-put. Master Class! Thank you
Great fucking video...I can't believe how much I learned just now. You uncovered mechanics I didn't even know existed and explained them well. Thanks.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown and (unfortunately) detailed explanation of the inherent flaws in this mechanic. Your demonstration both of animation commitment as it relates to the AI and the issues with lingering hitboxes cleared up some things that have really confused me. Hope against hope they fix these things for future instalments...
Great job in any event.
This is a master class!, just like mhgu yt tutorials used to do way back early 2000s. Concise and straight to the point C;
Musical choice and precision on explanation with great examples was very good in this video and as a fellow longsword dude since mh freedom on psp i really hope they fix some stuff and also re add some cool old soundtracks of older games :)
Really really appreciate the infos, thanks :)
Thanks for these kind of videos. They give me a spark of hope to be somewhat good as you are with the LS one day :D
Personally I have problems with the foresight slash somehow. When to time it and charge up with it.
This video is an actual masterpiece, I learned a lot about my favourite weapon and how/when to use which move properly!!! Fortunately for us they fixed some of the issues of the ISS in Rise (even though the delayed hit still remains), so hopefully we can rejoice as LS mains once again lmao
The MHFU musics... ❤️❤️❤️
It's so good!
the main thing I took away from this video is never iss against rajang
You can still do it against most of it's physical attacks. Just dont use ISS against any elemental or projectile attacks.
The only helmbreaker openings with rajang are his laser and when he is stunned/knocked/hungry making ISS the best way to fight him, sometimes you'll get unlucky but whatever, his pin is bad anyway. The mind's eye you get from spirit attacks is also very helpful.
Thought I knew everything about the LG, how mistaken I was... amazing video man, congrats!😋😁
Great guide by a great player 👌🏻
wow u were right peppo. the IS second hit miss almost frequently, made me use the Iai counter less regularly. what a fantastic video! keep up the good work man~
I mean if you are already that good at the ISS then there is no reason not to use it. But I do get what you mean.
Man u are true MH legend, seriously, much love from Brazil S2
i was waiting for this thanks
New player here, (coz its on sale) just lookin around for a guide but found this gem. Appreciate this much! Thanks a lot!
I knew nothing of you, but as i just now dive into my Iceborne journey, I am thankful for your vast wisdom Peppo Sensei.
Thanks a mill very well done video with plenty of info.
I came to get schooled on ISS, got a great masterclass on hit frames, counter frames, and stuff in general. Thanks!!
This video it's awesome, I mean, literally perfect, not only theoretical explanation, but you show us pratical situations too! Every time someone asks me about this, I will THROW this video to the person xD
If there's any english mistakes in this comment, sorry, I'm still learning :D
Thank you so much!
As a GenU player going into Rise, this is very useful information. Thank you
yo thank you so much this really did help me understand ls better
thanks for the details on the s and the rest animation times and problems with the iss, learned one or two things
haha i was hoping u making this kind of video. thanks Peppo -san.
Cant express how amazing this video was
24:00 "Because of all these cons, I wouldn't recommend LS players using this move for general hunts..."
Yay, I don't have to feel like I suck now :D
I just use it because I feel cool
Peppo grazie che mi hai aiutato in 2 missioni
Molto impegnative sei mitico 😉
You, Sir, are amazing. I didn't know you can do so much more with the LS. The game does not show you this properly.
Thanks alot Mr. Peppo! ;)
This is what explanation i need, the explanation of ISS, i spend my time playing MHW using GL, so i dont have any knowledge about LS, and just start it a few days ago.. most guide explaining about damage on LS not the explanation.. 😅
Thank you sir!! You trully LS master! 😊
Thank you for video!
A very very informative video! Salute!
Damn. Master class video thanks
This is what I needed!!
This really helped me let go of the idea of using ISS, I don’t plan on being amazing at LS, but I wanna die less to stupid hit boxes. Time to practice tf outta foresight slash ! Thank you for the video ❤❤❤ it’s still useful so 2 years later !
I love the background music you selected... very surprising
Thanks peppo sensei!
I was worried about learning about foresight and iai slahs bc I really suck when it comes timing bc I used to wait for the last moment now with this guide I feel like I won't be carted so easily now
This was the best Masterclass on Ls i ever saw, Professor Peppo. I was the full 25:23 entertained and interested to learn something.
when the master of longsword talk....great video and explaination....much obliged...
great guide man
this is my first time watching the whole guiding-video because I find it very interesting, thank you very much! (btw, I'm a lancer... not because I don't like other weapons but because I can't do other weapons' complex combos)
Thank you for the hard work
This guide encourage more to be better LS main player thanks
Now I can finally show everyone who laughed at me when I said that LS is buggy af.
But yeah, seeing how Rise was developed almost alongside MHW, they might have the same coding.
You predicted it... congrats xD
@@PeppoLS I wish I didn't T_T
Bro put way to much effort into this this is amazing
Very informative. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this guide and I actually learned a few tips for if I want to try Longsword. P.S. Light Bowgunner all day, every day.
i watched this video again today, but i wasnt subed anymore. I am sure i was. UA-cam still fucks up.
Thanks for the content. After hundreds of ours on charge blade on world, then rise, i started LS in rise, and now i begin on world.
Your help saves me so much time. I discoverd you on the primordial malzeno run, still cant believe your level.
Thank you very much!
8:50 thank u sensei, that all of my question all of time
Listen to the acoustic signal ! ... and the music is playing. Cool. Apart from this, very good video, ty.
These 25 min ended too quickly, thanks Peppo !
Thank you for showing the amount of Iframes each move has. I was getting frustrated due to so many things (even the iceborn wiki I think) saying the moves have Iframes, but not how many.
Dayum... foresight into sheath is a real game changer I didn't know about! If you mess up your foresight, the forward step at the end usually screws you royally. But by cancelling it into the special sheath, you can often avoid that! Quite nifty, that.
P.S.: LOVE that you put in MHFU music! Always sends nostalgia chills down my spine in the best possible way. 😊
You taught me so much, I believe this knowledge is transferrable to other MH games I believe
Thankyou Sensei. 🙏
Thanks for helping me out up my long-sword game in Monster Hunter world.
May have taken like 40 minutes to watch for me but definitely worth the time. Thank you
Truly thanks, only in Chapter II of the video I know that special sheath can cancel the third hit of spirit Blade III, this a really helpful tips, i've been hit so many times while the third hit
I'm kinda late to the party but I learned a lot. I always wondered if the ISS was something so useful that if I don't use it I waste dmg. Thanks for this very nice video 😊
I learned a kot from this video. Had to login my account just to comment and thank you sir. Very informative
Great video!
Thank you, sensei.
Ah man. I hadn't realized the second hit was random on where it lands. I just kept assuming I was somehow mistiming or misaiming the ISS. Thank you for saving what's left of my sanity.
Came here a year later, a noob in MH games. Yes, finally I I can rest my sanity back on my head. I had been super bothered to never been able to pull ISS consistently and feels like a failure. Seems like Helm breaker is the only (mostly) consistent finishers now.
peppo sama i thought i could never reach the pinnacle of ls because despite being able to counter almost every move from almost every monster (only monster that i haven't gotten to yet is fatalis :D), i could never foresight the barrel in training. then i started to consecutively ISS and IS it but i was still baffled that i could not foresight it. what started as a truly glorious journey soon turned into dreaded dreams and hopes of overcoming a minute obstacle, for my arch nemesis was nothing but a barrel. and so a huge and furious battle began between the both of us as our weapons swept past each other, as crashes and explosions were raging on the field there was only but one winner... the barrel. I was on the verge of quitting my beloved best friend and turn to cb since it truly is the flashiest and i guess comparably challenging... untill i found your video!! and now i understand!!!! it was the devs all along, they added a second hitbox which would explain why my foresight would get interrupted by an explosion that literally happens after the barrel disappears. and now im back on track, on my road to greatness. for that i am forever grateful to you sensei peppo. thank you!
Thanks for this. I got tired of explaining this to friends that are new to the game.