It's a shame they perpetuate the "potatoe famine" lie. It was a starvation by the English as there was plenty of food (other than the potatoe) that was being sent out of Ireland out of greed.
Other countries that were affected by the blight suffered far fewer deaths, because they opened soup kitchens and poor houses and other relief efforts. The Irish were just left to fend for themselves.
It wasn't just the Irish who suffered at this time, the Scots did as well, treated in the same way by those in power.... The population furthest from London suffered....
"Landlords often favoured Protestant tenants" - Erm, not "favoured", there were laws in place that made it ILLEGAL to act differently. Let's not sugar coat this, eh?
I would argue that Ireland’s “greatest disaster” wasn’t the “potato famine” but it’s colonisation by the English and Scots, without whom the effects of the famine (genocide) would not have been anything like as calamitous.
The majority of ordinary Scots in Ireland were transported there, they had no choice. It was a ploy to remove fighting men from the Anglo-Scottish borders. Irish immigration into Scotland hasn't exactly been a boon.
@@KaiColloquoun-gt7kw The descendants of Irish immigrants into Scotland assimilated and are indistinguishable from the local population. Try telling Sean Connery, Billy Connolly, Brian Cox, the list goes on, that they are not Scottish. Actually, it looks like quite a boon for Scotland. Scots immigration into Ireland led to centuries of sectarianism aimed at the native Irish as the Scots, unlike English settlers, wouldn't assimilate. Countless conflicts ensued and eventually the division of the island.
Absolutely amazing how detail and nicely written England and Ireland old documents are. I have traced my family back to the 1600s in England..and it goes back further
@@tub19 Same! It's especailly hard for me because I know half my family immigrated here from Sri Lanka, and so there's little hope of finding them, and my grandmothers parents were german jews who came to Britain before the war, so again little hope of finding them, but I am very interested in finding the remaining quarter of my family with english roots!
@@tub19 write down everything you know already. Join wikitree e.g. It's free. Start your own tree, adding in everything you know already. Keep a notebook of questions. Ask ask ask of all the family members who may be able to add to the info you already have. There are lots of online records that are free access.
I think it's quite amusing how they make it seem as though all this is discovered as Norton is shown it. In reality, researchers spent months gathering all the information together and arranging the interviews.
Your ancestor would have been tried in Wicklow jail which is now open for tours. A palpable air of sadness hangs heavy in the air. Records on display show the 'convict' sent to Australia for stealing an apple, any excuse to did of the indigenous population. Justice was not what we know it now. And the Irish Potato Famine was a blight on only the potato, other crops were unaffected but weere shipped out of the country for profit. A terrible time in Irish history.
Wicklow Gaol is an incredible place to visit, day and night. Some years ago I had the pleasure to sit alone in the main block in the middle of the night... A very memorable experience
Fascinatingto watch..am Jamaican n my maternal Grandfather is Scottish n am reading this book just now , about the Irish in the Caribbean n the USA…namely, “A vivid account of the Irish slave trade: the previously untold story of over 50,000 Irish men, women and children who were transported to Barbados and Virginia….”To Hell or Barbados”, Between 1652 and 1659 over 50,000 Irish men, women and children were transported to Barbados and Virginia..
Three and a half million died, some on the ships that the Irish tried to get to the US on, they were known as coffin ships, because so many died on the voyage, because of the herendoys conditions on board, and more died because aid sent by India , (ships of wheat and grain) were ordered to go to England instead, same with aid from, native American tribes and Canadian first nation people's, the English did nothing to help,
you also have to remember that there was a division between Presbyterian (Scots) and Church of Ireland (Episcopalian). The 1798 rebellion had Catholics and Presbyterians on the same side.
After finding my birth mother (41 years later) And meeting many family members I have 1 uncle that was abit of of a family tree nut. pun intented he would write letters to churches and government records From Canada to France And was able to list a tree over 12 years of making a book The book dates from 1987 to 1672 With no real detail of peoples events With that info I took the names and places, Birth/deaths And done a internet search And website that linked names together along with dates And made it back to 1622 confirmed And with the family name and shield to 1066 As barons to King William That helped him gather forces against Harold Our name changed a few hundred years back Maybe i think landing in "New France" And a need to change names Corbeau was the name before hand Which was again changed in the 1500 or 1600's from Corbett to Corbeau The family shield is a raven which is also a Norsemen folklore..Norsemen invaded france and tried to capture Paris but failed Then moved on to what is now known as Normandy My Grandfather which was Metis (French Canadian and Cree Native) Fought on Juno Beach Normandy 1944 I wish i was rich or famous to define my tree and the proud events some of the family members had I know with the ones alive They are the backbone of Canada, Miners, Railroad, Homeless staff workers, Builders, forestry Share holders in the Hudson bay company before the fire/revolt Trappers/hunters along the french river
Catholics in England too mate, in Yorkshire where I'm from at the time of the English Civil War we were the most Catholic shire and rebelled too. I was raised Catholic so they didn't entirely go away but by the time of my childhood quite a few Catholics I went to school with were Irish or Polish.
My nana was a Protestant Scot and my Papa was Irish Catholic.. they were excommunicated from their families. My nana turned Catholic and still wouldn’t talk to her.. but they did their children. But my nana was a pistol sooo that might have had something to do with it
You can be Protestant and be Irish. There is a protestant Church of Ireland. The orange symbol is from the unionists settled in the North who identify as British. It represents the victory of William of Orange over King James.
Graham an Irishman who tries to be anything, but , he is delighted that some of his ancestors were protestants and opposed to any respect towards Irish nationalism despite horrific history under British rule.
It's a shame they perpetuate the "potatoe famine" lie. It was a starvation by the English as there was plenty of food (other than the potatoe) that was being sent out of Ireland out of greed.
Other countries that were affected by the blight suffered far fewer deaths, because they opened soup kitchens and poor houses and other relief efforts. The Irish were just left to fend for themselves.
Genocide not famine
Genocide is the more fitting name!!
Where can I read more about this?
It wasn't just the Irish who suffered at this time, the Scots did as well, treated in the same way by those in power.... The population furthest from London suffered....
Adding/relating modern day celebrities to the mix has got to be one of the most innovative ways to teach history.
"Landlords often favoured Protestant tenants" - Erm, not "favoured", there were laws in place that made it ILLEGAL to act differently. Let's not sugar coat this, eh?
I would argue that Ireland’s “greatest disaster” wasn’t the “potato famine” but it’s colonisation by the English and Scots, without whom the effects of the famine (genocide) would not have been anything like as calamitous.
what about the vikings?
@@jameshudson169 They didn't colonise Ireland but those who settled there eventually became assimilated into the local culture
@@spooderman9122 how did they Vikings not colonize Ireland? They founded Dublin. The English and Scots were assimilated as well.
The majority of ordinary Scots in Ireland were transported there, they had no choice. It was a ploy to remove fighting men from the Anglo-Scottish borders. Irish immigration into Scotland hasn't exactly been a boon.
@@KaiColloquoun-gt7kw The descendants of Irish immigrants into Scotland assimilated and are indistinguishable from the local population. Try telling Sean Connery, Billy Connolly, Brian Cox, the list goes on, that they are not Scottish. Actually, it looks like quite a boon for Scotland. Scots immigration into Ireland led to centuries of sectarianism aimed at the native Irish as the Scots, unlike English settlers, wouldn't assimilate. Countless conflicts ensued and eventually the division of the island.
Absolutely amazing how detail and nicely written England and Ireland old documents are. I have traced my family back to the 1600s in England..and it goes back further
Hi
I keep thinking of doing my family history, but I don't know where to start. Just wondering if you have any tips.
@@tub19 Same! It's especailly hard for me because I know half my family immigrated here from Sri Lanka, and so there's little hope of finding them, and my grandmothers parents were german jews who came to Britain before the war, so again little hope of finding them, but I am very interested in finding the remaining quarter of my family with english roots!
@@jalaaldous3511 if you've ancestry in India you may be lucky because there are some quite ancient records there.
@@tub19 write down everything you know already.
Join wikitree e.g.
It's free.
Start your own tree, adding in everything you know already.
Keep a notebook of questions.
Ask ask ask of all the family members who may be able to add to the info you already have.
There are lots of online records that are free access.
@@krissee6961 just watch Olivia Coleman chapter here
I think it's quite amusing how they make it seem as though all this is discovered as Norton is shown it. In reality, researchers spent months gathering all the information together and arranging the interviews.
Yes. But.... Would that make for good tellie tho?!😂
I bet you would have awaken me last night during my wet dream. 🤔
Obviously. That's how television production works. Doesn't mean he had prior knowledge of anything.
My ancestors trial took place in Wicklow and he was sent to Australia as a convict. I wonder if our ancestors knew of each other. Pretty cool
Your ancestor would have been tried in Wicklow jail which is now open for tours. A palpable air of sadness hangs heavy in the air.
Records on display show the 'convict' sent to Australia for stealing an apple, any excuse to did of the indigenous population. Justice was not what we know it now. And the Irish Potato Famine was a blight on only the potato, other crops were unaffected but weere shipped out of the country for profit. A terrible time in Irish history.
Wicklow Gaol is an incredible place to visit, day and night. Some years ago I had the pleasure to sit alone in the main block in the middle of the night... A very memorable experience
Fascinatingto watch..am Jamaican n my maternal Grandfather is Scottish n am reading this book just now , about the Irish in the Caribbean n the USA…namely, “A vivid account of the Irish slave trade: the previously untold story of over 50,000 Irish men, women and children who were transported to Barbados and Virginia….”To Hell or Barbados”, Between 1652 and 1659 over 50,000 Irish men, women and children were transported to Barbados and Virginia..
It's a heartwarming story to see how in Ireland there're so many records still available.
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Lots of records if your family was Protestant
It rains too much for anything to burn.
@@maryjanemeehan2433 Graham's ancestors lived on the Fitzwilliam estate which kept excellent records for all tenants, both Catholic and Protestant
I have had so many dead ends when trying to find anything about my ancestors in Ireland. But then again they were poor, illiterate, and Catholic.
The irony that the local lad could now return rich enough to be the biggest landowner in the country!
So that makes Graham very connected to Game of Thrones, his Great-Great-Great Grandmother was a WhiteWalker!
Yeah that worried me too😂
Three and a half million died, some on the ships that the Irish tried to get to the US on, they were known as coffin ships, because so many died on the voyage, because of the herendoys conditions on board, and more died because aid sent by India , (ships of wheat and grain) were ordered to go to England instead, same with aid from, native American tribes and Canadian first nation people's, the English did nothing to help,
Many went to Australia, but the Irish are only obsessed with America, America, America.
The English were to blame for the genocide
Horrendous is the word....
If you were there you'd say it was herendoys too!
you also have to remember that there was a division between Presbyterian (Scots) and Church of Ireland (Episcopalian). The 1798 rebellion had Catholics and Presbyterians on the same side.
Their suffering is nothing compared to that of Catholics as a population
@@DD-bx8rb Read up on the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes and the St Barholomew's Day masacre. Oh, and add Magdeburg.
@@bobapbob5812 I would read impartial accounts rather than exaggerated accounts of historians of the Protestant ascendancy
@@bobapbob5812 The English Protestant rulers killed many thousands of Catholics in Irelan who refused to acknowledge English Protestant rule
@@bobapbob5812 Catholic suffered the most in Ireland. Full stop.
“Land seized from Irish catholics”
Those Protestants up to no good as usual - Fr Ted
Ah For Sure !!!!!!!!!!
That would be an ecumenical matter.... How right you are Father, how right you are!
After finding my birth mother (41 years later) And meeting many family members I have 1 uncle that was abit of of a family tree nut. pun intented he would write letters to churches and government records From Canada to France And was able to list a tree over 12 years of making a book The book dates from 1987 to 1672 With no real detail of peoples events With that info I took the names and places, Birth/deaths And done a internet search And website that linked names together along with dates And made it back to 1622 confirmed And with the family name and shield to 1066 As barons to King William That helped him gather forces against Harold Our name changed a few hundred years back Maybe i think landing in "New France" And a need to change names Corbeau was the name before hand Which was again changed in the 1500 or 1600's from Corbett to Corbeau The family shield is a raven which is also a Norsemen folklore..Norsemen invaded france and tried to capture Paris but failed Then moved on to what is now known as Normandy My Grandfather which was Metis (French Canadian and Cree Native) Fought on Juno Beach Normandy 1944
I wish i was rich or famous to define my tree and the proud events some of the family members had I know with the ones alive They are the backbone of Canada, Miners, Railroad, Homeless staff workers, Builders, forestry Share holders in the Hudson bay company before the fire/revolt Trappers/hunters along the french river
Very interesting real story.
Let’s just whitewash what the walker family did in Ireland and to the Irish Catholics .
I'm English & christened Church of England. Makes me feel ashamed the way the English treated those catholics. No wonder they rebelled.
Catholics in England too mate, in Yorkshire where I'm from at the time of the English Civil War we were the most Catholic shire and rebelled too. I was raised Catholic so they didn't entirely go away but by the time of my childhood quite a few Catholics I went to school with were Irish or Polish.
Different deal though definitely, the Irish were treat way more horrendously.
No bad feelings the past is the past at the end of the day
@@torello8903 much love to the Irish people
@@Hugh_Morris Me too! Irish Polish and Italian. I and a boy from Nigeria were the only ones not of those ethnicities in my class.
My nana was a Protestant Scot and my Papa was Irish Catholic.. they were excommunicated from their families. My nana turned Catholic and still wouldn’t talk to her.. but they did their children. But my nana was a pistol sooo that might have had something to do with it
"A bit of tension?"
Diplomatic language
What does a "pike from the rebellion" mean?
Pikes long spiked poles
Getting Father Ted vibes from the Canon!
Absolutely shameful what the Protestants did to the poor Irish.
You know what's also shameful? The 1000s of cover ups for peadophile priests within the catholic church.
Absolutely shameful what the Roman Catholic Church did to the English for nearly 800 years.
eh another group of Walkers :) we're also related to my namesake who was a RN Admiral
The Walkers were well known as great Hikers... ba-boom..
no
Reese is a Welsh name.
We haven't gone away you know the Brits debt will never be paid
My mother always said we were to wear orange and not green when st Patricks day came around. Said we were protestant. Go figure.
It meant not to celebrate anything irish
You can be Protestant and be Irish. There is a protestant Church of Ireland. The orange symbol is from the unionists settled in the North who identify as British. It represents the victory of William of Orange over King James.
I wonder if he is related to Bush? Lol
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Walker and logan are Scottish names a left over from the evil plantation
And “Deans” is an Anglo Saxon surname.
ok
Graham an Irishman who tries to be anything, but , he is delighted that some of his ancestors were protestants and opposed to any respect towards Irish nationalism despite horrific history under British rule.
Most of ancestors were and he went to Bandon doesn’t mean he isn’t an Irish man
And now we know why you always felt you weren’t Irish enough in your community.