As an Irish woman I am so thankful that the truth was shared about the famine although I like many others call it the genocide because really that's what it was, it was horrific by all accounts but I wouldn't expect an English person to apologise for things that happened back then but what I would like is for them to know the truth.... The truth isn't even taught here in Ireland in the schools
Cat, as someone who is Anglo irish I share in your pain about the irish potato famine of the 1840's which as we both know changed Ireland 🇮🇪 for forever. I share your understandable anger about this disgusting, outrageous heartless and callous thing that the British empire imposed on the people of Ireland 🇮🇪 with devastating consequences. I believe that brexit and it's failure is in part God's wrath upon the British for what they have done to the people, our people of Ireland 🇮🇪. My mum's side of the family are from Ireland 🇮🇪, my boyfriend and his family are both Scottish and Irish, from Gweedore in County Donegal Ireland 🇮🇪 which is not to far from the village of Creeslough in County Donegal where that dreadful gas explosion occurred at the petrol station in the village. May all those people, the people of the potato famine and the Addergoole 18 who perished on board the ill fated titanic having survived the potato famine only to end up losing their lives at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean 15th April 1912, may they all rest in peace. Watching the documentaries on UA-cam about both the Addergoole18 and the potato famine, I was genuinely incredibly emotional 😢 😭 and want to know what else I can do to support and help my fellow irish people now. What the British did was unforgivable and unforgettable. I long to return home to my ancestors Homeland and obtain irish citizenship and an irish passport and to get involved with the people of Ireland 🇮🇪 and give something back to them.
It's shocking it's not taught in British or Irish schools. I was educated about it by an American who was taught it in school. I was so embarrassed. We were taught so much about immigration and integration in East London schools but not one thing about this and I'm guessing half the class was related to this important part of history.
She got to know the truth that every American of Irish roots knows from family stories. The Irish went to London, Canada, New York, Boston, and anywhere else they could. Yes, there was a LOT of prejudice for quite a long time. They struggled hard.
You might watch The Field. Most Irish ended up share cropping on rocky land for the English owner on the better land. In the movie it shows hauling seaweed from the beach to get things to grow. You get things improved and it gets taken away. Back then for sheep or mass farming...similar on Scottish west coast. No stability. Potatoes from America were easier to do on that soil. The Irish had no wheat mills, so even later, wheat sold to charities came unfilled and you usually had to turn Protestant in line to get food.
In a land full of plenty no one should have died of starvation. The English had blood on their hands. I'm English and I'm embarrassed and ashamed. Those poor little children crying out for food and their mothers hearing their cries and not being able to do anything about it.
I grew up in England with an English father and an Irish mother, and I moved to Dublin in 1993 so I would’ve found out about how the English treated the Irish particularly during the famine, like you the English part of me is embarrassed and ashamed, but what bugs me even more is an unwillingness by too many English people to own up to and feel that shame and feel genuine remorse and regret, far too many times we ignore the parts of English history that aren’t palatable, to call out these times IMO isn’t being anti English or unpatriotic, quite the opposite, it takes guts and character to admit when we’ve wronged.
Tbf, as an Irish man, I think we can't be harsh about what our ancestors did to/ suffered from at the hands of others. The sad thing is that almost all of human history involves brutalisation and suffering of others
I'm Irish and don't feel that you or anyone alive today shares any responsibility. However, the British Empire was unconscionable evil in its actions. Have a nice guilt free day .😊
It wasn't the 'English' who were responsible . It was the political class and aristocracy in the main who drove this and took advantage of the terrible situation to reduce the population. It was one of the few historical occasions that people died of hunger in a land of plenty. Ships loaded with food were leaving from Irish ports daily. Those ships had to be loaded by someone. Business men and rich farmers(where was all the cattle,pigs,wheat and corn coming from?) were shipping their produce to England and America for better prices and more profit . There was a middle clas who were complicit in this and they weren't all Englishmen. In Cork at one point,the starving converged on the docks to board the ships and seize some of this food,but were prevented in doing so at bayonet point by a British Regiment called out from their barracks by the business men and leaders of Cork city. I'd say there were a few Irishmen involved in that too. This was economic policy diriven by an uncaring ruling class at Westminster with the collusion of many in the business class that included English landowers and some Irishmen.
During the "English Civil War, or the 3 kingdoms one, 25-50% of the Irish population died...it's amazing how little bitterness the Irish have about that, bar the henchman Cromwell.
My family actually did really well out of the famine. A lot of land had been cleared during the famine, several landlords had been declared bankrupt or were nearing bankruptcy, and skilled beef farmers were needed as rent paying tenants. Beef prices were quite high in Britain at the time which was fuelled by a rapidly emerging affluent middle class in England. My ancestry were beef farmers who were offered a vacant farm which is still in our family name all these generations on.
Genocide for the love of god call it was it actually was . It’s unreal how it’s still called a famine , british went to India and the same outcome came about , is it a coincidence how 2 countrys that the brits went to just automatically died from starvation
Pff, India is the country with the largest and most thorough institution of slavery that was never, ever expunged. It still exists to this day. What else is the caste system? Conveniently left out. Why aren't you getting angry about the Egyptian Empire? The Ottoman Empire? Rome? What of the dekulakization in Soviet Russia, which was famine on a whole other level and resulted in all likelihood over one-hundred million deaths? That's NEVER talked about. Mao's China? It's treatment of Tibet? These things all happened within the last one-hundred or so years. Here's a news flash for you: Britain isn't the originator of all of the world's evils! There was no need for the British Empire to erect a system of commercial slavery in Africa, because when it got there it found that the Africans already had an extensive one in place! The slaves were left on the shores in cages, ready to be picked up, by their own people. People are so ignorsnt about the history of the world it's unbelievable.
There's an interesting 3 part series The Normans that looks at how that ruling class colonised southern England first and moved on from there, including Ireland. As an example, the harrowing of the north, of England, was a scorched earth of locally approaching genocidal proportion ..those families have got form, one could say.
The Normans though intermarried with Irish natives and became “more Irish than the Irish themselves”. It was the landed Anglo-Irish gentry that was the problem.
As an Irish woman I am so thankful that the truth was shared about the famine although I like many others call it the genocide because really that's what it was, it was horrific by all accounts but I wouldn't expect an English person to apologise for things that happened back then but what I would like is for them to know the truth.... The truth isn't even taught here in Ireland in the schools
Cat, as someone who is Anglo irish I share in your pain about the irish potato famine of the 1840's which as we both know changed Ireland 🇮🇪 for forever. I share your understandable anger about this disgusting, outrageous heartless and callous thing that the British empire imposed on the people of Ireland 🇮🇪 with devastating consequences. I believe that brexit and it's failure is in part God's wrath upon the British for what they have done to the people, our people of Ireland 🇮🇪. My mum's side of the family are from Ireland 🇮🇪, my boyfriend and his family are both Scottish and Irish, from Gweedore in County Donegal Ireland 🇮🇪 which is not to far from the village of Creeslough in County Donegal where that dreadful gas explosion occurred at the petrol station in the village. May all those people, the people of the potato famine and the Addergoole 18 who perished on board the ill fated titanic having survived the potato famine only to end up losing their lives at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean 15th April 1912, may they all rest in peace. Watching the documentaries on UA-cam about both the Addergoole18 and the potato famine, I was genuinely incredibly emotional 😢 😭 and want to know what else I can do to support and help my fellow irish people now. What the British did was unforgivable and unforgettable. I long to return home to my ancestors Homeland and obtain irish citizenship and an irish passport and to get involved with the people of Ireland 🇮🇪 and give something back to them.
@@matthewgodwin8308 Well this message was absolutely disgusting.
It's shocking it's not taught in British or Irish schools. I was educated about it by an American who was taught it in school. I was so embarrassed. We were taught so much about immigration and integration in East London schools but not one thing about this and I'm guessing half the class was related to this important part of history.
I’m Irish too and i refuse to call it a famine when it was genocide, but like you I’d never blame anybody alive today
Rest in peace Barbara Windsor 💗
Rest In Love Barbara xx
Good to see an English production share a more truthful version of the famine, if only English schools would do the same
She got to know the truth that every American of Irish roots knows from family stories. The Irish went to London, Canada, New York, Boston, and anywhere else they could. Yes, there was a LOT of prejudice for quite a long time. They struggled hard.
They were tough people who didn’t cry for handouts & reparations
Victims of slavery too
You might watch The Field. Most Irish ended up share cropping on rocky land for the English owner on the better land. In the movie it shows hauling seaweed from the beach to get things to grow. You get things improved and it gets taken away. Back then for sheep or mass farming...similar on Scottish west coast. No stability.
Potatoes from America were easier to do on that soil.
The Irish had no wheat mills, so even later, wheat sold to charities came unfilled and you usually had to turn Protestant in line to get food.
Good old babs she had a very interesting family tree
Nice to hear the Irish Starvation (ethnic cleansing) be explained properly.
We are taught this as part of American history due to our large Irish populat ion!
One of our own..
In a land full of plenty no one should have died of starvation. The English had blood on their hands. I'm English and I'm embarrassed and ashamed. Those poor little children crying out for food and their mothers hearing their cries and not being able to do anything about it.
I grew up in England with an English father and an Irish mother, and I moved to Dublin in 1993 so I would’ve found out about how the English treated the Irish particularly during the famine, like you the English part of me is embarrassed and ashamed, but what bugs me even more is an unwillingness by too many English people to own up to and feel that shame and feel genuine remorse and regret, far too many times we ignore the parts of English history that aren’t palatable, to call out these times IMO isn’t being anti English or unpatriotic, quite the opposite, it takes guts and character to admit when we’ve wronged.
Tbf, as an Irish man, I think we can't be harsh about what our ancestors did to/ suffered from at the hands of others.
The sad thing is that almost all of human history involves brutalisation and suffering of others
I'm Irish and don't feel that you or anyone alive today shares any responsibility. However, the British Empire was unconscionable evil in its actions. Have a nice guilt free day .😊
Very fascinating
Rip Babara Windsor
Such a beautiful looking lady
Rip
It wasn't the 'English' who were responsible .
It was the political class and aristocracy in the main who drove this and took advantage of the terrible situation to reduce the population.
It was one of the few historical occasions that people died of hunger in a land of plenty.
Ships loaded with food were leaving from Irish ports daily.
Those ships had to be loaded by someone.
Business men and rich farmers(where was all the cattle,pigs,wheat and corn coming from?) were shipping their produce to England and America for better prices and more profit .
There was a middle clas who were complicit in this and they weren't all Englishmen.
In Cork at one point,the starving converged on the docks to board the ships and seize some of this food,but were prevented in doing so at bayonet point by a British Regiment called out from their barracks by the business men and leaders of Cork city.
I'd say there were a few Irishmen involved in that too.
This was economic policy diriven by an uncaring ruling class at Westminster with the collusion of many in the business class that included English landowers and some Irishmen.
I didn't know about this famine that happened in Ireland. That was terrible.
Google. The Irish Potato Famine 1847.The Irish population has never recovered since then.
@@brendancronin4445 😔. It’s so very heartbreaking 💔
It was genocide not famine ☘️
During the "English Civil War, or the 3 kingdoms one, 25-50% of the Irish population died...it's amazing how little bitterness the Irish have about that, bar the henchman Cromwell.
And they talk about reparations! How about some for the Irish!
@@jgriffin282 ya I could do with a bit of money what my kin folk b suffering!
I ❤️ Barbara’s fashion style. Does anyone know the name of the handbag she’s carrying (2:05)?
It’s called Sylvie.
Omg how terrible was it for them in Ireland.x
Don’t be so bloody patronizing🙄
@@Greenwillow what is patronising it was awful what happened or perhaps you don't think so!!!!
@@lorrainedance2945 i’m Irish. It could easily have been avoided but it wasn’t. Its in the past.
@@Greenwillow so is my family and I agree .
@@Greenwillow Don't be so miserable. Go back to reddit
My family actually did really well out of the famine. A lot of land had been cleared during the famine, several landlords had been declared bankrupt or were nearing bankruptcy, and skilled beef farmers were needed as rent paying tenants. Beef prices were quite high in Britain at the time which was fuelled by a rapidly emerging affluent middle class in England. My ancestry were beef farmers who were offered a vacant farm which is still in our family name all these generations on.
Genocide for the love of god call it was it actually was . It’s unreal how it’s still called a famine , british went to India and the same outcome came about , is it a coincidence how 2 countrys that the brits went to just automatically died from starvation
Pff, India is the country with the largest and most thorough institution of slavery that was never, ever expunged. It still exists to this day. What else is the caste system?
Conveniently left out. Why aren't you getting angry about the Egyptian Empire? The Ottoman Empire? Rome? What of the dekulakization in Soviet Russia, which was famine on a whole other level and resulted in all likelihood over one-hundred million deaths? That's NEVER talked about. Mao's China? It's treatment of Tibet? These things all happened within the last one-hundred or so years.
Here's a news flash for you: Britain isn't the originator of all of the world's evils!
There was no need for the British Empire to erect a system of commercial slavery in Africa, because when it got there it found that the Africans already had an extensive one in place! The slaves were left on the shores in cages, ready to be picked up, by their own people.
People are so ignorsnt about the history of the world it's unbelievable.
The great famine (1845)
Genocide genocide genocide
British era famines in India were on another level of cruelty
As a percentage of the overall population the Irish famine was one of the worst
The legacy of the English. And its not just Ireland....
British weren't very nice to us Irish
There's an interesting 3 part series The Normans that looks at how that ruling class colonised southern England first and moved on from there, including Ireland. As an example, the harrowing of the north, of England, was a scorched earth of locally approaching genocidal proportion ..those families have got form, one could say.
Many came to America as well, we now number in the millions of Irish descendents.
@@willrichardson519 Those bloody Normans have alot to answer for.
A certain class of British were not to kind to anybody,bet most of them were of Norman origin.
The Normans though intermarried with Irish natives and became “more Irish than the Irish themselves”.
It was the landed Anglo-Irish gentry that was the problem.
"British Foreign Policy" Ive noticed you all seem to forget at that time we were apart of the UK but not when it suits you.
Nobody died or left due to famine. They died or left due to British genocidal politics. There was plenty of food. It was stolen
The food was sold abroad for higher prices than what they could get locally. It wasn't stolen.
They shud have fed their people first but financial profits were more important to the government at the time@@joegee6434
So sad how the irish were treated like dirt,