Why Don't The Admirals Attack The Yonko? | One Piece
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- Today I go over why the Navy Admirals don't try to capture or defeat the Yonko, since the Marines are the antithesis to pirates in the One Piece World. It's a really popular topic so I decided to make a short video on it.
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The admirals dont attack the yonko because it will literally turn into a massive war
Once the Yonko is taken down, the army's biggest asset is literally gone and won't have the manpower to start a war. Because all Yonko groups main power comes from the Yonko crew itself: The Yonko and it's commanders.
Technically, the main reason why the WG doesn't attack the Yonko crew is that despite the upperhand the WG has over a lone Yonko crew, the crew and fleet is powerful enough to incapacitate the majority of the WG's military power that once another Yonko steps in, it would be the end of the WG.
For example: 100% WG Fleet vs 100% Whitebeard's Fleet = Victory for the WG but with 50% Left.
The next matchup would be 50% WG vs 100% Red Hair. It would be a catastrophe for the WG.
@mstr293 also the Yonko's Empire are mostly only powered by 1 characters being the yonko themselves. However Odas did state that the yonko don't fight one another for the same reason that there would be a massive war and that its a 50/50 for either side.
No it will tip the world out of balance dew to how many pirates are there
@@mstr293😂Lol. One Garp is enough to defeat most of WB/Rogers crew.If 2 admirals join,it is the end. The WG has to be overpowered to have defeated Joyboy more than one time as hints suggest. The main reason is quite vague.They strongly believe in balance of the world
@@mdanik1361👎 cut the shit.
Luffy is the only Yonko crazy enough to attack whoever he wants lol. Wano was quite literally the perfect place to defeat an emperor with it being a closed off country that is hard to access. He also unknowingly got very lucky doing it at the same time the warlord system was abolished and the world was thrown into chaos.
not only that , if Kaido was actualy defending Luffy would be dead. If they weren't on a flying Island Big Mum would not have lost.
Not to mention if Shanks didn’t show up to protect them after everything Greenbull would have likely wiped them out while they were still healing.
@@orange6259ok this one is funny because it's been a week since the war ended. Luffy's being awakened zoan heals faster than everyone and i don't think greenbull alone could wipe them out when he's kind of struggling to fight against momo and yamato. Imagine all the strongest among the samurai ganging up on him including the strawhats. he would be dead.
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz8682 Yeah there’s no way he’s taking on the Straw hats by himself at that point, let alone the Straw hats plus Momo and all the Scabards. Without Shanks, I think Luffy would have been absolutely fine. They were completely unphased and confidant when Green Bull pulled up and I honestly think Luffy would be able to beat Green Bull by himself in a high to extreme difficulty battle. Maybe not because you could argue he wasn’t fully back at 100% yet but with help Green Bull wouldn’t stand a chance.
Luffy was also Lucky Kaido was such a terrible leader that there already was an army ready to fight him and All the Strawhats had to do was Join them
Not only does the Navy not want a massive war with one Yonko, where the others would swoop in to take advantage of the chaos, they actually don't have a *huge* incentive to do so. The navy exists to uphold the power of the Celestial Dragons / Imu. Until a Yonko threatens that, as Luffy does, there's not much reason to invade a yonko's territory given how costly it'd be
exactly, why bother if you dont need to
I haven't watched the video yet but i always thought that if the navy we're too attack a yonko it would leave them open and a different yonko would take advantage of the opening and attack them at the same time
Smart man
I like this I agree
@@ReiStormie yup
you got a point there
This!
I have said this before, If they attack a Yonkou crew, they would win but their forces would be weaken enough for the other three Yonkou to take advantage of. They were lucky that WB was old and sick. If that was Primebeard then he would have beaten Akainu and most probably injure another Admiral to the point that they need a long recovery before WB would go down eventually. Now the marines is left with only one active Admiral and if Big Mom or Kaido decided to invade Marineford and Marijoa, the casualties the marines will get will be too much even if they still win in the end.
You all think far too simple of one piece, one piece is the reflection of our world on how things are is not entirely because eliminating and taking over that is mostly most of the pirates ideology but for marines they the one who runs the world the first is balance of the world and the political structure land protected by yonkos, yonkos keeping the movement of pirates in check plucking a potential threat out the great pirate age is great pirate age with so many pirates at sea marines themselves would fail to fully have monopoly and control of the world dew to their being pirates and the chances of an unknown enemy unknown power and potential may pop up. If admirals can defeat warlords why they just don’t take them out.
My Guy if they Had Primebeard then The Marines Would have Prime Garp, Segoku and Sturu. Marineford Would have Arguably ended even Worse For the Pirates.
@@justlad6080 I'm just saying that if they fought a Yonkou at its prime then they would have tremendous casualties. They would lose 1-2 admirals for sure.
@@bilogskii2216 wouldn’t really say that. Marineford was Ass showing the Admirals true Power,thing that Egghead is fixing. There You Got The Yonko That Defeated Kaido Fighting Kizaru and So Far Kizaru Is UnHarmed,when he isn’t in even Going All Out Because of the Tree Things he Has to Protect in the Island.
Idk, but if Admirals Were Allowed to Go Completely Wild I don’t See The Marines Taking any Casualty.
@@justlad6080 If Luffy and Kaido fight right now, Luffy would lose. Kaido has fought everyone while holding onigashima floating. He wasn't at 100% when he 1v1 Luffy while Luffy had a chance to eat and rest a bit. Luffy is a low tier Yonkou at the moment so it's natural for him to struggle against a 100% Admiral but he would still win. Kaido, Shanks and Big Mom would beat any Admirals 1v1 (maybe not Akainu coz I feel like he really powered up during the timeskip) and would have enough strength left to fight another.
Havent seen the whole thing but the way I see it, any attempt to disrupt the balance would cause someone to try and take advantage of it. Not only that but some Yonko are actually a good way to disuade rogue pirates from going wild. Ain't NO ONE gonna mess with a Yonko's territory (unless you're one of the worst generation). Red Hair Shanks and White Beard were pirates but we've seen how they act, they're chill if you dont mess with them. Big Mom is also a possible contender, she just wants sweets. She doesnt invade territory, she negotiates (horribly and forces your hand) but she's much more diplomatic than others.
Pretty much a "dont poke a sleeping bear" scenario
I’ve always been of the opinion that the three main Admirals have always been pretty relative to Yonko albeit not necessarily the same strength level (specifically in the pre timeskip). But they’re still outnumbered by 1, that’s not a fully even balance of power which is why the WG almost created the Warlords albeit that system was kind of a failure. Either way, if the WG ever tag teamed a Yonko they’d upset the balance of power and give the others a reason to unite. Imagine if Shanks, Kaidou, and Big Mom with their crews and fleets had shown up to Marineford.
There’s also only 3 top tier admirals, they’re not really easy to replace if you lose one. I’ve personally never understood the Agenda piece merchants who say things like “Yonko will low diff admirals” & especially the opposite. One Piece has always been very good at environmental storytelling and to me this is all an example of that.
Luffy will beat kizaru
People always say kizaru could beat big mom and kaido coz he was saying he should go
But they don't realise that manpower of a buster call plus needs to mobilize to not only attack the yonko but also hold off their crews and someone has to somehow defeat kaido and big mom if kizaru went alone they would all attack and kill him with mid diff and if he went with a fleet they would suffer resources and lose battle assets and they would still lose kizaru was in over his head and never thought of the risk akainu had to tell him.
The admiral's and yonkos are reletive in power one on one but overall yonkos have better stats
You forgot about fleet admirals
They too should count.
@@GUYFROMEldosluffy won’t beat kizaru
You forgot Fleet Admiral, the most important one by far
If this was realistic no one could beat Kizaru.
Great video!
95% is crazy. I got you bro I’m subbing right now.
Just subbed, I loved the video bro
Great freaking video. New sub.
Because long-ruling Emperors are entrenched within their territory, and it will take probably too much resources to dislodge them, and doing so would provide opportunity for other Yonko to act.
Big Mom has basically her own country with perimeter of defended islands and with her surveillance knows instantly if someone is coming.
Kaido acquired Wano, an island fortress which also has as unknowing quality the power of Wano government and its samurais. (Which on hindsight, Orochi´s samurai weren´t that big deal in grand scheme of things).
You really can´t wage war against either of these countries without sizable fleet and at least one Admiral. And even then, victory is not certain if you engage yonko on their terms.
Whitebeard was only Yonko that could be drawn out from his base of power to advantageous ground, by threatening his crewmate. Would even Marines really engage Gura-Gura fruit user on an opean ocean?
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The WG needs bogeymen (pirates) to justify their rule and security. Otherwise more countries would fall under sway of anti government and self rule sentiments.
The sea is huge. You don’t simply waste resources going around and fighting a Yonko while other Yonkos go berserk in other places.
Honestly the better question is how the Warlords were even on the same playing field as the other two. Like I get Mihawk being Yonko tier but Boa really has to be some kind of Haki god for that pre-timeskip Warlord squad to be on par with the other two powers.
Boa is stated to be the second strongest warlord after mihawk. She almost beat Blackbeard, his whole crew and the seraphim’s by herself. Barely lost to Blackbeard
@JorgeReyesMD yeah people gotta stop sleeping on boa she's actually really powerful
@@JorgeReyesMDnever stated lol
@@combeebrian247 Yes, it was never stated, but based on what happened, you can pretty much infer that same conclusion. Boa was strong enough to beat Black Beard had her DF not been nullified.
Good video
Even if you defeat a yonko, a new yonko will emerge..cycle will go on.
I just wanna say thank you for powerscaling with the story in mind..
I just subscribed. I am only at 34 seconds in but I like to make comments as I go. Without hearing the full purpose of the video or your thoughts. I think most Admirals are weaker than most Yonko. But not by a lot! In some cases it's very close. But I think basically any two Admirals can take on any 1 Yonko. No it won't be an easy fight. I'm also not against the idea of some Admirals being able to solo some Yonko. But that would be an extreme fight! It just depends on the match up though.
Three Admirals should be able to body any Yonko with Medium difficulty at worst I think. So it is entirely possible for the Admirals to go in groups of 2-3 with a little backup as well. And take out Yonko one at a time. They can even do pin prick attacks going for small fleets and commanders first. Which would be simple work. Why they don't? Few reasons I can think of. It leaves the Marines and World Government vulnerable but it's also a bad idea. It increases the odds that the Yonko get desperate and team up. It also allows for a power vacuum were other Yonko can control more territory without other Yonko to hold them back. Four is a good balance. That said there is a time and place to do this. Right now in the story could be the time.
Big Mom and Kaido are down. They are already committed to battling Luffy. If I were the marines I would send a second admiral for sure. To try and take out Luffy. If they win than only shanks and Black Beard left. Two people who likely won't team up. You can send 2-3 admirals at one of them and then the other. But whos to say the marines and world goverment truly want the yonko defeated? I think they do but also do not. Going to unpause now and see what this video is really about.
In the Ace novel during Roger’s Time Shiki the golden lion was one of the top pirates back then
This is a test for Luffy to prove himself to be worthy of being called an Emperor.
Nah not really donchinjao said that to be a pirate king now you need to surpass the naval admiral and a yonko. But here kizaru does not look interested on fighting lufy.
Well,if is So then he's Failing. Badly. SPOILERS:
Kizaru is Not Even Fully Focusing On Him. He Keeps Trying To Eliminate Vegapunk and Luffy just keeps Getting on his Way but he Can’t Stop him.
i think another reason for them not attacking is if they actually do defeat a yonko it may encourage alliances between the others if they all combine that could be the end of the marines even just 2 could tip the balance of the whole world
They don’t attack the Yonkos because they know it would be there last one
Subscribed! Great content man, you’ve thought it through pretty well and you make good and coherent poibts, but you speak pretty fast sometimes and I had to relisten a few times.
No disrespect man, just thought maybe you’d appreciate the feedback :)
I gotchu
The admirals don't attack the Yonko because what would be left of the Admirals wouldn't fill a bucket. Boom, explanation over.
Delusion and ass pulls are strong with you
Yea fr they are just weaker
if 2 admirals came, Yonko would be dead
Strength of the Jonko alone
Army of the Jonko
Pirates who are allies with the Jonko will join him
Territories of the Jonko would enter into chaos
You don't wanna mess with them, so why go on to kill Ace and Whitebeard? Roger's son was probably expected to be JoyBoy, meaning that the movement was needed
Yonko + Yonko Army + Yonko Allies
vs
Admirals + Vice Admirals + CP agents + Seraphims + Pacifiistas + Garp + Sengoku + Kong + Holy Knights + Gorosei + Imu + Warlords
Who you think will win?
@@homeblue7667That's unrealistic because the Warlords are no longer part of the WG.
why did you spell it with a j?
jonko?
They were expecting that Kaido would attack Shirohige and with that a bathblood between pirates but Shanks stopped that
Personally it is simple.
If the admirals ever moved to take down a yonko 2 would have to go at least (one to beat the crew, one to beat the captain). Not only is it unlikely that two admirals could do this the other three yonko would simply attack the world government before the the admirals heal. Also although the admirals can contest the yonko captains, in general the yonko crews are much stronger than the vice admirals and other marines outside of the admirals themselves.
Actually 3
1 for the crew
2 for the yonko cuz ain't no way one admiral is defeating kaido
@@abdouaboud7490that's just you Coping 😂
@@lordkaito7685 Bro no admiral was taking Kaido down alone. That’s the real cope.
Aokiji and Akainu literaly spent 10 days fighting each other and nothing happened.
@@lordkaito7685 I really wanna know what the heck in going on up there in your head. How'd you come to the conclusion that a admiral 1v1 is definitely taking down a yonko >_
Sakazuki doesn’t give a f about the citizens or peace. He just wants to destroy and eliminate the pirates completely. So those reasons wouldn’t justify the admiral’s not attacking the yonko since Sakazuki is fleet admiral and makes the calls (majority of the time). So if he launched a full scale attack with 3 other admirals against one yonko, the marines would be able to eliminate them most likely. The drawbacks and aftermath would be obvious, but completely disregarded by Sakazuki. Maybe the higher ups like the 5 elders would intervene, but all they really care about is keeping their power, and eliminating a yonko would tip the scales in the favor of the world government. So they probably wouldn’t legitimately or characteristically have a reason to not want that, despite the consequences. However I completely understand the plot devices set in place to avoid such obvious resolutions to certain structural issues in the one piece universe. It makes a lot of sense, but there are many hypothetical scenarios explaining why it would or wouldn’t be able to work, and the consequences of both scenarios. It’s a good example of the imaginative beauty behind fictional worlds like one piece, and why it’s fun to explore hypotheticals within them
like imagine if three or two of the Yonkos would die (yes I already know what's going on in the manga) without anyone to replace them? That would mean that alot of people would start chaos and fight each other to take on more Yonkos
I always felt like the world government never wanted to be the first one to attack since the admirals are to valuable to lose. The vice admirals and below are fodder with the exception of garp. So if one admiral went down the world government would be severely handicapped so it just smarter to not risk it cause yonko crew have a bunch if notable characters who absolutely fold vixe admirals
If they are fodder, what the hell is the point of having them?
Oda would pull a vice admiral that's admiral level if he wanted to the marines train the vice admirals to be replacements not fodder
The world government has ties to the yonkou depending on who it is. I.E they have ties with kaidou due to the Seastone that comes from wano if i remember.
Also the admirals need to be stationed at marineford just in case an attack on the base or if a Celestial dragon is harmed.
I think because they are all smart like if the admirals attack one yonko and even defeating it. it will cause so much casualty and loss of resources and the other 3 yonko will try to attack the marines and also if the yonko fight the marines and other yonko the other party will take advantage of it so i think they just trying to wait until one of them make a move.
That's what I been telling ppl when they bring it'll mean power balance make no sense if admirals can beat a yonko
Admirals can’t attack the Yonko because it will disrupt the balance of powers, it will be a logistical loss to even send the Marines to fight a Yonko fleet without a legitimate cause, and if the Admirals was to solo a Yonko, it will be a major L. Look at the last few manga chapters with Luffy vs Kizaru and Shanks arrival to fight Green Bull. Admirals isn’t simply just strong enough to do a full on battle with a Yonko unless it’s a 1 v 2/3. If Kaido can obliterate a CP0 agent in one blow, they can edge out against an Admiral. After all, Pirates will always have the plot armor to win and a CP0 agent is between the power levels of a Vice Admiral or Yonko Commander.
It's crazy to think the world government would even want to take out the yonko. Even if they could just press a button to get rid of every pirate, the world government would never press it the yonko are a great thing for the goverment
They aren't, the only reason the WG wasn't overthrown by the Original Yonkou were because they wouldn't work with each other because of their grudges , doesn't help that Shanks is a snitch.
The balance of power is WG + Warlords = Four Emperors
If the WG could get rid of the emperor's, they would.
The only good thing the Four Emperors do that the WG likes is their 4 way standoff restraining the Yonkou and the fact they kill pirates challenging them instead of having them rampage in WG controlled territory
If they attack the yonko, they are losing a HUGE portion of their power everytime like an admiral, vice admirals, ships, possible islands. It becomes an overall L that will leave them vulnerable to revolutionaries and other yonko crew and it becomes a snowball effect that loosens their grip on the world. On top of that more rebellions spark as if they don't already with cross guild on the horizon and faith in the WG, just plummets even further. There is no good outcome from attacking yonko besides possibly killing the yonko.
They could hardly handle a dying whitebeard 3v1. They where shitting when Black beard and Shanks pulled up.
Because they wouldn't be Yonko if it was really that easy.
Mutually assured destruction
The world government would have to mobilze atleast 2 admirals to go and take down a single yonko crew, which has huge risks cuz it will make the navy vunerable to other yonko crews . The navy would only have two admirals at the base to protect it which is too risky and can cause a huge blow to them.Just Look what happened in marineford war, the navy mobilzed all of its forces and admirals to face against a SINGLE YONKO ,even though the admirals didn't go full power , the navy still considered him a huge threat that needed them to use everything they had.
The reason is simple, unlike the Straw Hats, the other Yonkou are more open to do Evil Pirate stuff and Shanks crew would require all 3 Admirals and the Fleet Admiral to actually mobilize, which would mean someone else would cause chaos while the 3 Admirals and Fleet Admiral are busy. Not worth it, considering the main job of the Marines is to preserve order.
Kaido, Big Mom, Buggy and Blackbeard are definitely open to cause civilian casualties if the Admirals attack them.
Shanks and Whitebeard were too much of a pain and would require to focus the entirety of the Top 3 and Top Dog to deal with. Too risky to leave the rest of the World without someone to defend them.
As for Luffy, the WG is still underestimating. Even after all the havoc he has caused, they still think he's the Yonkou that can be brought down the easiest.
Why would they still be underestimating them? They know he’s Nika now if not before, and during that 5 elders meeting they said they’d rather deal with a pissed off Kaido than an awakened Nika. When was it said they think he’s the most manageable one?
@@TheDelethar In a way they are indeed taking him seriously, in just 3 years of being a pirate (with 2 being away in timeskip) a Gorosei has mobilized. Something not even the other Yonkou caused.
But even then, it took them too long to properly take care of him.
Then again, fate is with Luffy. Aokiji spared him due to Garp, and Kuma spared him as well in Thriller Bark and even saved his life in Sabaody.
So maybe you are right, they didn't underestimate him, but fate has been on his side.
Luffy has destiny on his side, so while it looks luck or that they aren't taking him seriously, things just align for him to cause the biggest events all the time.
Yep and he is going to show them in this arc that it isn’t worth fighting him .
Probably the fact that the Straw Hat is not just a crew of 10 but a pirate fleet flew over their head.
@@thevipivo6200 Oh no.
Its the opposite.
For the first time the World Government will face an existential threat.
And if real life has told me is that the Hegemons of the World and the Totalitarian Regimes of Real LIfe will go to War if its to ensure their continued dominance in the case of the Hegemon and their existence in the case of the Totalitarian Regimes.
Can the whole navy like in Marineford beat a full Yonko crew? Yes they can. BUT...
Lets say pretty much the whole Navy is going to Whole Cake island and wanna completely destroy
the whole Big Mom Pirates, they actually could with a lot of damage, but not if they get backdoored
by another Yonko crew in territory that they dont know, why was the Navy so feared when Shanks
and Whitebeard meet... because they would loose at Marineford against 2 Yonkos + their Crews.
So the answer is they could take them down over time one by one, but if 2 Yonkos fight together
they would loose the entire Navy and the World wouldnt have the Navy anymore.
So they simply CANT attack the Yonko because their too strong.
If the Admirals could simply team up and go Yonkou hunting, they would have done so a long time ago.
I see two reasons why that isn’t happening:
1. This would basically equal a full out war between Marines and that one Yonkou. Since the Marines are the ones attacking into enemy territory, they are at an instant disadvantage, especially when considering that the exact military strength of certain Yonkou / their nations is not known to them. That would lead to massive amounts of casualties at best and an outright defeat at worst.
2. The second all three Admirals and a huge army leave Marineford to attack one Yonkou, it is basically guaranteed for Marineford to get raided by one or more of the other three immediately. Also, seeing the Marines out to hunt them might very well cause the Yonkou to form alliances against them- and if one Kaido and Big Mom alliance was enough to seriously threaten the entirety of the power balance of the world, imagine if all four of them teamed up against the World Government.
Sure they could probably bring down one Yonkou like this, but not without serious injuries/casualties and a potentially devastating aftermath.
Luffy and gang just casually walkin around beatin yonkos in their OWN territory
Plus I think the other three Yonkos would be pissed if the government actively went out and attacked one of them on their home turf. Whitebeard went and attacked the government, so he was fair game. But if the government went after a Yonk on their territory, that would show the world government is a threat.
The world government was so nervous about fighting a full Yonko and their resources that they summoned all the Warlords as well as their admirals, and they still took heavy casualties. If they pissed off all the Yonkos, or even just two, then it would be a catastrophe for the government
Yonko are like necessary evil. They don't like it but they obviously need it.
I was never a big fan of the "Three powers" because The seven warlords are so much weaker then the Marines and Yonko as a faction and they technically serve under the world government. The real third power is clearly the revolutionaries
The main driving factor in my eyes as to why the marines don't attack the Yonko is that the cost would be far to high, I think the marines can reliable take down any single yonko crew and even if they were to face against all four at once would probably come out ahead given just how vast the territory is and the powerful characters they have at their disposal. I mean Fujitora and Aramaki were just recruited out of thin air, who knows how many other incredibly powerful characters are just minding there own business the the WG has access to. No single marine could beat Kiado or Big mom but I think they can eventually be brought down with sheer numbers.
Not to mention the kingdoms under them who are not technically marines could be called on, like Dalton, Kyros, and Pell. (I know Dalton and Pell are not the most impressive but if Crocodile can still be a threat despite losing to luffy I don't see why these two can't be a major asset.)
Ah yes, because the Warlords are so much weaker than the Marines
*Also the Warlords:
Mihawk - 3B
Moria - 100 million+(back then)
Boa- 1B
Jimbei - 1B
Doffy- 400 mill
Croc - 1.9 B
But sure T-Bone definitely solos Kuma 💀
The seven warlord can act as a pseudo-Yonko crew when they put all their force together, giving a edge to the Marine in any war against the Emperor. After all, one of the current emperor crew is literally just three warlords teaming up.
The main issue of the warlords is that they didn't follow order and were only doing the bare minimum, like at Marineford. While they would have been a threat to recon with if they aligned all their force, they were just never gonna do it.
some of the warlords were strong but they did their own thing and didnt follow orders. But mostly they were used to quell upstarting pirates from becoming anything rather than fighting already established ones.
Technically, the main reason why the WG doesn't attack the Yonko crew is that despite the upperhand the WG has over a lone Yonko crew, the crew and fleet is powerful enough to incapacitate the majority of the WG's military power that once another Yonko steps in, it would be the end of the WG.
For example: 100% WG Fleet vs 100% Whitebeard's Fleet = Victory for the WG but with 50% Left.
The next matchup would be 50% WG vs 100% Red Hair. It would be a catastrophe for the WG.
Basically, 5:44 of what you said. I should've finished this video before replying! 😂
Really accurate analysis. Basically what a dialogue between some vice admirals showcased during Impel Down arc when the rumour that Kaido wanted Marineford smoke. Similar to Whitebeard and Shanks meeting forcing Gorosei to mobilize a fleet and how alert they were when Big Mom and Beast Pirates alliance was announced. Navy on it's own>1Yonko fleet( average) .But 2Yonko forces combines is estimated to cripple entirely the Marines. Thus Red hair arrival was crucial to the end of the war. Take the victory or take the L.
also taking down a yonko creates a power vacuum. Kaido and Big Mom losing led to Luffy and Cross guild taking their place
whats the outro music?
2 admirals, a handful of vice admirals, and a dozen warships is all the navy would need to mow down kaido. However, they would suffer heavy casualties, their HQ and mariejois would be vulnerable to other yonko or the revolutionaries, and finally, the huge power vacuum would lead to even more chaos. Also who's to say another yonko won't show up, and turn the tides resulting in the death of two admirals which would devastate the marine's military power. What if shanks never stopped kaido from going to the paramount war? However now that the navy has the seraphim, which is a replacement for the warlords but 10x better, plus they have the mother flame, the power balance is about to be destroyed through total marine victory.
I agree that the yonkos are important, but the 7 warlords don't seem to be important at all. Only Kuma followed orders and Moria capturing a couple low level pirates won't change that much.
7 warlords aren't the dogs of the Marines neither the Yonkou but the purpose is keep the order around their territory,it doesn't matter if they only deal with nobodys that's a job that the Marines doesn't need to do since there is someone that can rule the are for them,of course is not a perfect system like we saw with Cocodrile and Don flamingo but is works for the world government to sell the idea that they have the control
@@holow3038, Crocodile literally wanted to destroy the entire world before the Strawhat Pirates, and Doflamgino was making deals with Kaido, so yes both the Seraphim and the Warlords aren’t a perfect system to taking down the Yonko like the Strawhat Pirates are.
warlords are important for dealing with smallfry pirate's, the yonko's are the one dealing with mid level as strong as warlords kind of pirates. the wg is the one protecting the lands
I feel like it's obvious why shown in marineford...
1 single Yonko with his fleet still required large amount of resources to fight against and began a war... then after WB defeat many pirates rushed to get whatever scraps are left from WB rule....
It's just too much effort to start fights with heavy hitters, WB literally says to Ace it's pointless for them to start some gruelling war against Kaido...
A very vague rule of thumb that I believe can be true is 2 admirals can go pretty even with a Yanko. 2 top-tier commanders can go pretty even with an admiral. And so forth down the power list. Like I believe that Marco and Zoro together would be pretty even with a guy like Kizaru. To have the navy go up against Kaido both sides would lose many fighters.
That is a very good rule to follow. Obviously type match complicate things but for general use that is a good rule. I think Zoro would struggle immenesly against Kizaru's speed and range. But another top tier commamder like Law or Kidd could manage.
They said before that yonko bring balance to the grandline without yonko grandline will be chaos.
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Its because of the balance of the three great powers that run the one piece world would be ruined, that includes the marines, the seven warlords at the time and then later SSG with the new seraphim pacifista, and the yonkos. Whole video summed up in one sentence.
Simple. Because it would take too much resources. For White Beard, they had home field advantage and it was still difficult. Going to a Yonko's territory is suicide unless you're Luffy
Admirals do attack Yonko from time to time, and that’s why WB is no longer around.
Feels like 1 yonko (captain+crew) could crush 7 warlords
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If the 3 yonkos (shanks, kaido and bb)team up against the navy , it will not be war it will be a one sided annihilation.. the yonkos are just minding their business better not trigger them.. it will be a suicidal move by the marines to enraged them..
Maybe kizaru is an anomaly in admirals and was hiding all this power
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Only a liberator like Luffy could easily challenge yonko. His crew can cleanly 1 v 1 then but he is always backed by the yonko territory inhabitants. When he is not they run (WCI) but when he is (Wano) they stand and fight (else his numerous knock outs against Kaido would have nobody to hold the weight while he recovered and all would be lost).
Anybody else risks their own assets except shanks probably. Luffy risks his crew in 1 v 1s only. Not huge resources and armies. Just some 1 v 1s while the island inhabitants help out and hold out like scabbards, other samurai, yakuza, etc.
It’s also interesting how the yonko act as a beacon drawing in smaller - but highly dangerous pirates. The Kidd’s and Law’s of the world are eager to take them down for one reason or another and boom 2/3rds of the relevant worst generation members (obviously minus BB who has been a yonko) are wiped out. That’s efficiency. And prior to that , Kaido had Kidd on wraps.
they don't do it at will because if they do the navy would take losses it wouldn't recover from.
1. The chance of losing an admiral is pretty high when fighting an emperor and all their subordinates WHILE in their territory. It's not that an admiral COULDN'T defeat an emperor. It's that the admirals aren't guaranteed victory. The only 2 emperors who moved out ofbtheir territory even semi-regularly were Whitebeard and Shanks. It makes more sense to sit back and let emperors fight each other. It's why the WG didn't bother stopping the Payback war
2. Emperors are usually fucking off and doing practically nothing outside of collecting tithes. They are fucking with the WG's plans and they safeguard the Road Poneglyphs. Plus, the WG was actually making money off the emperors by selling shit TO THE STRONGEST ONE.
3. Even if the WG decides to invade, they still have to have the necessary knowledge to: navigate the waters, survey positions of power, ensure bases at home are protected, bring the right amount of firepower without being exposed, knowing who will be where at roughly what time. Just look at the US assault on Bin Laden's compound. It's not that we didn't have the manpower to defeat him on the field. It's that it was just more efficient and effective to gather the info and being prepared before blasting.
4. It's not like the emperors are even a threat against the WG to begin with. Saturn is literally no-diffing Sanji and Franky while basically fucking around with an aura that basically surpasses Conqueror's haki. If Sanji and Zoro are actually equal, and Zoro can actually damage Kaido, it speaks volumes to how powerless Snaji is in this situation. Saturn also used an attack that was literally undodgeable by fucking SANJI. This is just 1 elder, and we know the admirals are close to the emperors. There's still the strength of the other elders, Imu, and all the G Knights. Yeah, the WG was never in any danger to begin with.
5. Starting a massive war just screws over the WG in the end. Can't rule over the world when most of it ends up dead. There's no real fun in that. The WG clearly isn't worried about losing a fight against the emperors. They're more worried about the fallout.
6. The Warlords are there to fight the rest of the crew while the admirals fight the emperors. There's a reason there weren't 4 total admirals years ago just like how there weren't 4 emperors years ago. The emperors command extremely powerful subordinates on top of being extremely powerful. Luffy would have slapped around any vice admiral pre-timeskip. Kuzan or Akainu just showing up caused Blackbeard to be uneasy or flat out run. Plus, when the strongest on the seas are mentioned, the emperors and the admirals are mentioned in the same breath. If the admirals were weaker, then there would be no reason to mention them because they are not considered the strongest. It's also not like they're actually doing anything to stop people from getting the one piece.
7. The whitebeard pirates were helpless to Akainu. Kizaru had literally 0 injuries. Aokiji one shot Jozu and was able to singlehandedly alter the battlefield. Akainu dealt multiple fatal wounds to whitebeard but only received a bloody nose and was literally fully healed a day later. The admirals and the warlords were all present to ensure that whitebeard had 0 chance of getting to Ace and stopping the execution. Even the WG is more concerned about replacing warlords than fighting the red hair pirates and the whitebeard pirates at the same time. Not 1 admiral was out of commission, most vice admirals and warlords were STILL up and ready, and the Blackbeard Pirates were on the verge of being wiped out despite Blackbeard being present.
The 3 powers is to ensure the WG doesn't have to move out of their comfort zone, not because the emperors are a real threat. There's a reason the WG has been in power for 800 years straight. You don't make it to the top by being only slightly stronger than everyone else.
I always thought it strange how the world government would cede power to pirates by allowing the 4 yonko to be considered a great power
Because the World Government isn't all-powerful. Beating the Emperors in a war is one thing. Pacifying and maintaining control of their old territories while preventing new Emperors from rising up is another.
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Aftet seeing big ma/kaido defeat, as well as kizaru trolling luffy, it doesnt make any sense why the pirates are even a threat
For 1 yonko it would take at least 3 admirals
I honestly believe it's due to their power gap. The vice admirals haven't been portrayed anywhere near the level of any Yonko commander/Warlord at least. So that's also a lack of powerful man power too.
True, shanks first mate benn Beckham is said to be almost as strong as shanks himself, dude has a 3.5 billion bounty and shanks a 4 billion
@@JorgeReyesMDThat's your head canon G.
@@baonemogomotsi7138wasn’t that stated?
@@arizonaranger2333 Nope
@@baonemogomotsi7138 just looked into it, Databooks say that Ben Beckham is “comparable” to shanks. Take that how you want. Some people think it means they are equal and some people think that means they are close but shanks is still stronger.
Same with drugs and cartels. Is a business. For every problem/product a service will be required.
If Shanks' Conqueror's Haki can make Greenhill shit his pants and saying he wouldn't attack Wano if Kaido were there pretty much explains why they don't. Even a sick and weakened Whitebeard had Akainu shutting his pants.
Reighley even mentioned that, in his prime, he could have made quick work of Kizaru.
Even Roger admitted that the only two Marines who could come close to him were Sengoku and Garp.
With that being said. The Admirals wouldn't stand a chance against the Yonko.
Gb was ready to run the ones with shanks he just didn't want to fight 2 yonko crews kid and laws crew it's just a start move
The Reason is because someone else would just take the yonko’s place
Yes but it will happen the same that happened when Shirohige died,all the territories under his control were in caos when pirates were trying to take the control of those territories and in the end there will be another Yonko
so how did garp, sengoku roger and whitebeard constantly fight
Pre Great Pirate Era/Roger becoming Pirate King, the threat of pirates was no where near as much as it is now. The Yonko system only came to fruition after when Kaido and Shanks came into power
If they could defeat a Yonko, they would. They're terrified of 2 Yonkou teaming up which has been shown time and time again, you may say that this would cause other Yonkou to team up, but they hate each other and only Kaido and Big Mom are the ones who could team up so they could just attack either of them.
They literally did defeat a yonkou though. The whitebeard pirates got slaughtered even though warlords and impel down escapees helped the pirates.
They killed Edward Newgate, imprisoned Shiki, and executed Roger. What else do you need?
@@Chiefteeth1 They took major casualties and it was clearly not worth it. Besides, they had to summon every marine from ever corner of the world.
@@jfrd-pw4hk Newgate literaly had cancer and could not even use his Haki. Nowhere near his prime.
Roger willfully turned himself. Context matters.
@@jfrd-pw4hkRoger turned himself in and Whitebeard was already dying prior to the battle. Akainu tooo scared to fight Shanks. Kizaru didn’t want to engage Ben Beckman. Fujitora couldn’t even capture Sabo.
It's worth noting that most of this goes for the Old Yonko.
The New Yonko (Blackbeard,Luffy and Even Buggy) are far more erratic and Chaotic and seem set on bringing forth a new era of Pirates (which they succeeded in) and destroying the Status Quo entirely (largely by finding the One Piece).
Rather than Defeating upcoming Pirates they mainly defeat the Old Legends and take advantage of the Ensuing chaos
if the admirals fought a yonko, other yonko's will make a move since the marine's strongest power is busy fighting someone
I don't think yonkos actually care about admirals because they aren't too much of a threat for them because they're weak. Yonkos are more worried about dealing with other fellow yonkos
@@GalaxyKnight2005 well in marineford, kaido is actually making a move while the admirals are distracted by whitebeard, if shanks weren't there to stop kaido we don't know what would happen
They did at Paramount war and they attack again at egghead.
At the Paramount War they did not attack WB, WB attacks them. Sengoku says killing the son of Roger who has unimaginable potential in pirating is worth fighting Whitebeard. Egghead is also a case where they were attacking Vegapunk anyway because he is studying Void Century info similar to the scholars of Ohara which is threatening to the government
Luffy needa surpass Shanks and be able to defeat Sakazuki to be considered a real yonko. He didn't even beat Kaido fair and square not to mention Kaido didn't awaken.
Kaido was always fully Awakened otherwise his Devil Fruit would be called the Dragon Dragon Fruit and not the Fish Fish Fruit hence why Vegapunk considered the Fish Fish Fruit a failure since most fish aren’t naturally pink in the ocean, and they’re man made, and Vegapunk was able to make a perfect copy of an Awakened Devil Fruit by just eating it alone.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrNo his devil fruits wasn’t awakened 🤦🏻♂️ literally every time when somebody uses his awakening in One Piece it is mentioned but by Kaido it was never mentioned or confirmed !!!
And Kaido devil fruit is based on a myth in Japan when a fish can pass a waterfall it becomes a Dragon !!! Like in Pokémon with Karpador and Garados !
Yea, but dont worry, maybe kaido would be back with it awakened
SPOILER:
kaido survived
2-3 admirals could take kaido. But then all the admirals would be in one place. Probably not a good idea.
If kizaru has trouble with luffy here in the next few chapters, it think it’s pretty obvious that it would take 2-3 admirals for kaido alone, not to mention his entire empire.
Kaido would have trounced gear 5 luffy in a straight up 1v1. Holding up an island, fighting the samurai, eustass, law, zoro, luffy like 3 times, momo, and even clashing with Big Mom however briefly.
2 admirals beat anyone we have seen so far in the series mid diff at max. Kaido is not that guy. Maybe someone like rocks or imu can do it
Starting with your worst take possible. Luffy bullies Kaido. Kaido only fought people weaker than himself also known as fodder. Island barely took stamina. Samurai are fodder.
Law and Kid got like 2 good attacks at the most then fought big mom. Zoro got 1 good hit in. Momo bit him. Big mom never scratched Kaido during their fight. So all of that is irrelevant the only one who actually did something was Luffy.
Who also had to fight people and then for most of wano fought people stronger than himself unlike Kaido who only fought fodder and people weaker than himself.
Up until the gear 5th fight Luffy had been fighting someone stronger than himself even got attacked by Cp0. Then died so at this point Luffy has way less health than kaido. Comes back at 0.5 hp with a brand new form he doesn’t know how to use that rapidly drains stamina and bullies kaido. In no way shape or form can Kaido beat Luffy. He already lost to a Luffy with less health.
You only need 1 admiral to beat Kaido, Aramaki is enough to beat Kaido. The others are just overkill to beat Kaido in a 1v1. Kaido is fodder he lost to a Luffy with a brand new form, on 0.5 hp, and rapid stamina drain. Kaido loses to any admiral
Kizaru ain't having "trouble" with luffy. G5 Luffy is only being nuisance to him.
One would say, "Luffy isn't going all out". Then, Do you think Kizaru is?
@@willofd1540 kizaru didn’t have trouble with luffy a few years ago when he punted him around the marineford battlefield like a soccer ball. He’s having actual trouble with him now.
I don’t think anyone in the verse aside from
Imu and maybe EoS Luffy can solo three Admirals at the same time. Maybe EoS Blackbeard too
I still don't think Ida would butcher his power system to hype up imu or eis luffy the admirals are too big to be taken down by 1 guy
A old sick whitebeard with a hole in his chest almost cleared 3 Admirals a prime wb demolishes them
He didn't do shit all the admirals were holding back 90% of their power if thr wg let tge admirals go all out there is no war just a genocide
Just saying if yonkou = admiral. gang 1 up. 3v1 no casualty. 3v3. they still have gorosei and those knights
Y’all are over thinking it. Marines gain nothing for taking down yonko. Another would just pop up in their place. Wb died and bb took his place. Kaido and bigmom gone and luffy and buggy took their place. Defeat one yonko and another random pirate declared himself an emperor of the sea
Because of Plot. Luffy will fight against them one by one while the other yonko stand by and do nothing
If you ask me, entire marine organisation + warlords = the 4 yonko
But on its own marine organisation = 2.5 yonko
My reasoning being each admiral/fleet admiral is not as strong as a yonko alone but with 2 admirals they can defeat atleast 1 yonko, the .5 is for the rest of the marine organisation, but if they attacked the 2 yonkos they could theoretically defeat then the marines would practically be destroyed and unable to fight further the other 2, or atleast that’s my theory
Not every yonko can beat an admiral vice versa
@@Naldinho456 every yonko can beat a vice admiral, it’s not even close.
@@darkmatter9643 you can't read huh?
@@Naldinho456 “not every yonko can beat a vice admiral and vice versa” you’re actually so stupid holy shit.
Not even garp the strongest vice admiral can take out any yonko, Kaido and big mom on their own would absolutely shit on him. Blackbeard can best garp without much issue. Luffy can probably beat garp too, and shanks probably low diffs him.
Prime garp is a different story. But not a single vice admiral can beat a yonko, and every yonko can beat a vice admiral
Oh this makes sense now I always believe 1 Yonko could beat 3 admirals that’s why the navy is scared, but this explains why the navy didn’t just take them out now. Seems like I was wrong and that the admirals may be close to some of the Yonkos. I was always believe Mihawk wasn’t Yonko level because if he was he would beat some of the Yonko as a warlord but this changes everything. Very good video makes sense now.
Bruh rly😂. 1 yonko is never beating 3 admirals
man, this just shows that most people don’t even understand the power scaling in OP.
@@DrunkGnu ya they say "1 Yonko = navy + seven Warlords.
Mihawk is only not a yonko because he's been dedicated to going solo, without crew or allies until very recently in the story.
He is the greatest swordsman who stands his ground dueling shanks (a yonko) and his crew many times, but he is still just one guy and can only be in one place at a time limiting his threat of actually taking over territory.
Tbh I think the marines can handle one yonko crew but aren’t nearly on the level of 2 combined. Hence the panic when BM and Kaido allied.
They didn’t attack because of the balance of the 3 powers. Anyone who moves first will end up being open to attacks from the rest. The Marines can’t fight 2 Yonko back to back, and the Yonko can’t fight another yonko back to back, they’ll lose their Poneglyph and claim for one piece
It just bussiness.
Has long they leave each other alone.
The warlords are a Massive Asset to the wg
The navy alone cannot stand even close to the weakeast Yonko
Sengoku was supremely happy that 5 of the warlords showed up
As they are essentially a Yonko crew of Unique strength
And we see that with cross guild
3 warlords making an alliance= immediately yonko status
The only one Capable of this is Mihawk
having him alone makes you yonko lvl
Crocodile added a threat with his connections to his underworld friends and Marine hunting system
But its just mihawk that elevated buggy to yonko lvl
Now imagine Mihawk boa jinbei doflamingo Crocodile Kuma Moria
In 1 crew
You have
Yonko Mihawk
Boa Jinbei Doflamingo as commanders
Croodile kuma Moria as elite forces like tobiroppo
Add their crews Or forces becuase its an alliance
Now its
Yonko mihawk
Boa(+kuja pirates and Amazonian warriors)
jinbei (Fishamn pirates this is something luffy can utilize as well)
Doflamingo (+His Family)
Crocodile(+his baroque works something kinda happening in cross guild anyway)
Kuma
Moria (+his family)
And now its super threatning and one of the strongest crews in history
-Strongest swordsman in the world
-3 conquers (mihawk boa and doflamingo)
-4 different Armies (Amazonian warriors fishman pirates 2000 barouqe works memebrs and Moria's army)
-3 Unique df powers that are massively useful (boa is army stopper. Crocodile is a Crowd control specialist
and Moria is an army maker)
Because the samurai's strenght is unknown
Any Yonko > 1 Admiral
If they attack a Yonko at once, they will have to face the forces of the Yonko and his fleet.
1 Yonko could pretty much make the 3 Admirals tired and if the other Yonkos found out that "Blackbeard was folded and slammed by the 3 Admirals" It's obvious the other Yonkos would go where they fought and kill the other Admirals when they are tired. 4 Yonkos combined > 6 Admirals
Weren't the Marines surprised when the world got thrown in turbulence after whitebeards death?
Yeah exactly. For marines, is for balancing the world but this fandom is fill with fodder brain they think like background’s characters in anime.
Admirals, gods saints and the 5 world elders... legit should have been able to take out the yonko ages ago.
Yes but other pirates will take opportunity of that, and maybe even team up against the gov
Ok but now there are only 2 great powers
All three admirals vs kaido
Sakaxuki alone destroys kwidi
If the wg wants to defeat all yonko, why would they replace wb, kaido and bm when they’re defeated. Because of control. They let the yonko rules the new world as a buffer against uprising pirates and stalemate each other. Also yonko is acting like the big bad guys so the people look for the wg to gave them these “safe” protection from the pirates. And let’s be honest here, the only fire power of the navy hq are the admirals. I’m excluding garp and sengoku since they retire already. So as of now the admirals are literally carrying the navy against pirates and revolutionaries
95% is crazy I got you gang