Doing some dumb cuttin' just to see what we can do. I'd never do this in the real world. Just doing it see we can all learn. Don't do dumb stuff with your nice knives.
This is the video that made me buy my para3 in maxamet I was shocked after hearing everyone talk about how brittle the Steele is . Thanks for this genuinely
As a point of terminology, Maxamet is brittle (when it is hardened). Brittle means when it fails it will do so without plastic deformation, you will just get a clean break. If a steel is strong enough, it won't matter if it is brittle because you will never get to the yield point anyway.
@@doctoruttleywhen a material is infinitely strong, it has zero toughness or it can not be measured as you can’t get it to absorb any energy. However, strong though maxamet is, it is not even near infinitely strong, so toughness is still disadvantage.
PVC is butter. I build septic systems, work with it daily. All my cheapos can handle PVC easily, Sandvik 14, VG10, D2 all works fine with it. ABS is the blade killer. I can cut 1 1/2” poly pipe in half with a Delica all day and trim the poly tanks.
Chuck Beef pvc is not butter. I work with it all the time building Halloween props. You have to saw through it aggressively. Not many knife steels would be able to do this.
I love the disclaimer and near nausea diaplayed cutting the PVC. You know its abuse and expect the worse. Thats how you rock out! I saw a video of guy stabbing a weathered 2x4 with a designed for and carried by Navy Seals knife and the tip broke. He was hurt and whined about getting a replacement. It was gifted to him by the manufacturer lol.
I just got the Para 3 in maxamet a couple weeks ago. Did some yard work with it. Ended up in the dirt a couple times, just barely knicked a paver that was hidden by grass. Popped a ton of monster zipties with it. Also accidently cut a small piece of aluminum off my kme jaws lol whoops. Knicked the metal frame of some patio furniture (also aluminum I would guess) that had said zipties attached. It's possible there was slight edge damage but honestly I couldn't tell. Couldn't see anything and couldn't feel anything besides a typical toothyness that usually happens when an edge natural wears down, which is extremely slow might I add. I did initially have some heart attacks but now I wouldn't think twice about doing anything with it save batoning or just straight hitting rocks with the edge obviously. I've never had a steel that stood up to plunges in gravel filled soil. As for sharpening it also came back up to a super smooth shaving edge with not much fuss at all tbh. Didn't feel special to me. I'm sure a large part of that is the kme being so effective at apexing with fixed angles though, to be fair. But man does this stuff just cut and cut and cut. Don't know if mine is special or lucky in heat treat but it is not chippy at all, not tedious to sharpen with diamond abrasives, but also has edge retention in a whole other realm.
But but but, you mean the edge doesn't just fall off in ribbons? Or cause catastrophic damage cutting a zip tie? And that steel isn't glass, but steel?
I think that the cases where maxamet chipped out on the early spydercos where a heat treat issue spyderco didn’t have much experience then but they resolved that now
Fritz Stewart it's impressive for a 30 degree inclusive edge on a steel that is hardened to 67 HRC. I'd be impressed if a can opener could hold a razor edge and open cans all day, but a can opener is soft stainless steel with a blunt cold chisel edge that does more puncturing then cutting.
A pocket knife is what you use when you don't have access to tools. Kinda the point of having an EDC knife, besides just having a pretty piece of pocket jewelry. If you only use the damned thing for cutting paper and boxes, then the metal doesn't matter.
I just got this knife today. Watching that was worse than watching a horror movie. Lol. I'm glad to see how tough it is. Have you had any issues with rusting?
Big Brown Bear 1 micron diamond is awesome. I use 1 micron diamond on my edge pro after 1000 grit, and it takes the blade from sharp to hair whittling sharp like nothing else.
Neither one of those tests were particularly abusive to the knife based on my day to day use. I’d expect pretty much any decent steel to hold up to that without chipping.
Fritz Stewart it's a trade off, it cuts longer. Everything has a trade off. For me I want the hardest, highest performance edge, that holds it the longest, I use my knifes and understand there limits and can do my own Sharpening so I don't need insane toughness because I am not a careless user. So why should I be punished with reduced performance because others don't understand how to use or sharpen. I shouldn't haha that's why I love this steel it's high performance stuff. You want Toughness? Just grab an axe haha
Big Brown Guy fare enough. I just have not got into super high carbide steels due to diamond stones being very expensive and not alot of choice in New Zealand. Most stuff i impory to get reasonable prices on.
This is the video that made me buy my para3 in maxamet I was shocked after hearing everyone talk about how brittle the Steele is . Thanks for this genuinely
As a point of terminology, Maxamet is brittle (when it is hardened). Brittle means when it fails it will do so without plastic deformation, you will just get a clean break. If a steel is strong enough, it won't matter if it is brittle because you will never get to the yield point anyway.
Excellent point! 👌🏻😎👌🏻
@@doctoruttleywhen a material is infinitely strong, it has zero toughness or it can not be measured as you can’t get it to absorb any energy.
However, strong though maxamet is, it is not even near infinitely strong, so toughness is still disadvantage.
One of the best vids I've seen that puts it into simple terms...Maxamet is the shit! I ordered this knife last week and I cannot wait for it!
The things ApostleP says blows my mind.
What did he say? Brittle Maxamet?
@@skycorrigan6511 pretty much lol
Late comment, but I think he was using the standard edge pro stones which are aluminum oxide
@@Huero87 wouldn't surprise me. That guy is clueless.
Brutal to watch but interesting as always. Maxamet is a beast.
Maxamet is the best I've used so far it seems. Definitely a few more tests to share though
Maxamet is not a beast unless you have money to throw away just to cut cardboard ! That’s all that’s good for, i use a Stanley knife
@@normski32 you probably drive a Lada as well. Brings you from A to B.
@@normski32 how many Pollock's does it take to get out of a box?
All I can think about is Maxamet Malanika Pukko. That would be lovely.
Drool omfg wouldn’t that be something
PVC is butter. I build septic systems, work with it daily. All my cheapos can handle PVC easily, Sandvik 14, VG10, D2 all works fine with it. ABS is the blade killer. I can cut 1 1/2” poly pipe in half with a Delica all day and trim the poly tanks.
Chuck Beef pvc is not butter. I work with it all the time building Halloween props. You have to saw through it aggressively. Not many knife steels would be able to do this.
If you can cut pvc pipe in half with a Delica please upload a video showing me how as that would save me much time on my prop building.
@@kevn420 a year late but what I would do is use it like a pipe cutter and roll the pvc pipe with pressure from the knife
My last splurge on knives. Glad i made a good choice. Thanks for the confirmation.
Sitting here just carving some aluminum 🍻
You’re crazy, and I love it!! Thanks Shawn
The old hand strop method, manhands !!
that was also in my mind:)
I love the disclaimer and near nausea diaplayed cutting the PVC. You know its abuse and expect the worse. Thats how you rock out!
I saw a video of guy stabbing a weathered 2x4 with a designed for and carried by Navy Seals knife and the tip broke. He was hurt and whined about getting a replacement. It was gifted to him by the manufacturer lol.
I just got the Para 3 in maxamet a couple weeks ago. Did some yard work with it. Ended up in the dirt a couple times, just barely knicked a paver that was hidden by grass. Popped a ton of monster zipties with it. Also accidently cut a small piece of aluminum off my kme jaws lol whoops. Knicked the metal frame of some patio furniture (also aluminum I would guess) that had said zipties attached. It's possible there was slight edge damage but honestly I couldn't tell. Couldn't see anything and couldn't feel anything besides a typical toothyness that usually happens when an edge natural wears down, which is extremely slow might I add. I did initially have some heart attacks but now I wouldn't think twice about doing anything with it save batoning or just straight hitting rocks with the edge obviously. I've never had a steel that stood up to plunges in gravel filled soil.
As for sharpening it also came back up to a super smooth shaving edge with not much fuss at all tbh. Didn't feel special to me. I'm sure a large part of that is the kme being so effective at apexing with fixed angles though, to be fair. But man does this stuff just cut and cut and cut. Don't know if mine is special or lucky in heat treat but it is not chippy at all, not tedious to sharpen with diamond abrasives, but also has edge retention in a whole other realm.
But but but, you mean the edge doesn't just fall off in ribbons? Or cause catastrophic damage cutting a zip tie? And that steel isn't glass, but steel?
Good work brother. Loves me some Maxamet! 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
I like your style. Subbed.
none of the tests here is related to toughness
I just ordered a factory second maxamet native 5 and I'm so pumped!
If maximet is used roll out other steels. Used to crush and shape other steels. I think it's gotta be beast right?
convex not necessarily carbide tools are used to work steel but carbide does not make a good knife.
Who's to say what "gross abuse" of a knife is? Somebody's "gross abuse" might be another person's daily everyday use...🤔
One mans "sharp" is another mans dull
Lol I cut pvc with a spyderco tenacious yesterday. Lol fucked my edge up. It was at about 20 inclusive tree topping. After not so good.
I would pay you handsomely to sharpen my maxamet knives!
I think that the cases where maxamet chipped out on the early spydercos where a heat treat issue spyderco didn’t have much experience then but they resolved that now
I think its people that use there knives like shit, or poor abrasive selection and sharpening techniques, not the heat treatment
Big Brown Bear maybe btw have you messed with any company 121 supposed to have better edge retention then maxamet
bp69 I'm going to compare both soon on my custom knives, I've just needed to get a source for Maxamet. I have it now should be done by July
Great video! Can't believe everything you hear about a steel I guess...shocker.
blueline561 nope, user error is the real culprit. There is always exceptions of course haha
Send that vid to Apostle p lol..
I love it keep it up buddy
👍That steel is pretty tough enough!! Hey do they make that same knife with a heavier handle?
Michael Shults shyt, I wish. Just have to blade swap it
Wow steel cuts aluminium. Not sure how can openers work 😅
Fritz Stewart it's impressive for a 30 degree inclusive edge on a steel that is hardened to 67 HRC.
I'd be impressed if a can opener could hold a razor edge and open cans all day, but a can opener is soft stainless steel with a blunt cold chisel edge that does more puncturing then cutting.
Big Brown Guy True 30 degrees is pretty impressive for such a hard and high carbide steel. Strength is impressive.
I dunno bro. I think you had a diamond lapping film on your palm when you brushed off the aluminum shavings.🤨
Nah I'm just playing, Awesome video. I do have some maxamet reservation but I think I'll pick some up
This video makes my teeth hurt 😬😂
A pocket knife is what you use when you don't have access to tools. Kinda the point of having an EDC knife, besides just having a pretty piece of pocket jewelry. If you only use the damned thing for cutting paper and boxes, then the metal doesn't matter.
I just got this knife today. Watching that was worse than watching a horror movie. Lol. I'm glad to see how tough it is. Have you had any issues with rusting?
its not super tough but its not as brittle as glass like some people say, it will rust or patina with use.
Knife is 360 now i will be hiring a made instead
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Did you use diamond stropping compound to strop it? Wonder if the normal green compound I have will still work fairly well on it
green will work fine as long as its some sort of SiC for the abrasives.
It will do a little but just get diamond spray, 1 mircon size. That works best for everything.
Big Brown Bear 1 micron diamond is awesome. I use 1 micron diamond on my edge pro after 1000 grit, and it takes the blade from sharp to hair whittling sharp like nothing else.
That's really impressive! Men you just poisoned me to a point where I will just make a call!!!!! Thank you ;-)
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Neither one of those tests were particularly abusive to the knife based on my day to day use. I’d expect pretty much any decent steel to hold up to that without chipping.
Bruh, its 68 hrc with a 15dps at 0.020 behind the shoulder with very high carbide volume.
What you probably want is 1080 @57hrc 25DPS 🤣 just sharpen it with a #2 file...
Hey big brown guy! do you sharpen knives for people? and if so what do you charge?
Dean Grondin I do not, takes time away from my other projects
I think. A knife should be able to do that and if it’s so strong why would you worry about it and I cut pvc all the time with my blade
I hope your not thinking about cutting that aluminum
This hurts to watch.
thumbs up for andrew w.k.
Max S Party Hard!!🤘
insane ! lmao
Wow.
Thank you for doing that so we don’t have to lol
still think the price is a joke, and them scales are so tacky looking.. thanks for the great video
Nooooo don’t do it that hurts
Have too, there is too much bullshit about this steel being pushed by people that don't know.
Lets be real. 67hrc maxamet is not as tough as 60hrc let alone lower carbide steels.
Fritz Stewart it's a trade off, it cuts longer. Everything has a trade off. For me I want the hardest, highest performance edge, that holds it the longest, I use my knifes and understand there limits and can do my own Sharpening so I don't need insane toughness because I am not a careless user. So why should I be punished with reduced performance because others don't understand how to use or sharpen. I shouldn't haha that's why I love this steel it's high performance stuff. You want Toughness? Just grab an axe haha
Big Brown Guy fare enough. I just have not got into super high carbide steels due to diamond stones being very expensive and not alot of choice in New Zealand.
Most stuff i impory to get reasonable prices on.
Bullshut it is 93 for what you have and 120 for the g 10 model
click bait $93 is for the blue model in BD1 steel.