CIS Space Roster Tierlist

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @Thunder_219
    @Thunder_219 7 місяців тому +8

    Great Video! I cant wait to see more like it! Maybe the next one should be the ground rouster but including non buildable units to show how good the CIS could be. (Super tanks, mk2 droidekas, protodeka). Here are some of my thoughts:
    1) Providence ships are a hard toss between S and A tier, they lack the survivability of heavier ships such as the bulwark 2 but their weapons loadout and fighters make up for it especially when you get the buildings to lower it to I believe just under 3k per ship.
    2) I think the recusant is a better auxiliary ship than having only munificents for a fleet as while they lack real point defense, their laser cannons allow for the shooting down of most enemy fighters. I normally find 2 munificents to every 1 recusant does wonders for countering enemy bombing runs as you can jam munitions while potentially allowing for your point defense to guard a larger ship/ formation. So i would put it in B instead of C.
    3)Would have liked to see an honorable mention to the Kolivex cruiser or (dreadnought variants you get for mission rewards )that you get from Geonosis at high influence as to me that is an S tier ship as their fighter, pop cost and point defense allows for a group of these to protect the malevolence the same way lancers protect ssd’s.
    4) i would say the subjugator is a B tier ship as its weapons loadout leaves much to be desired as i think its mostly light turbolasers/ laser cannons. While I understand it may be in a fleet, the lack of real damage dealing weapons (especially if you already have a ion cannon on defense) when compared to a mandator 2 would make me almost always elect for a horde of smaller craft.( I feel like it is the bully in elementary who is tough until kids of a similar size stand up and then they fold like a cheap suit 😂)
    5) the DH omni I would say is likely a C tier ship as while it may be near invaluable when attacking, if you ever need it to turn around the slowness often allows for the enemy to close the gap or you need to play “out of position” away from the Golan’s (think on defensive battles where you get attacked without the map warning)

    • @theedifiedgamer8350
      @theedifiedgamer8350  7 місяців тому +2

      You do raise some good points. The Recusant is a difficult one. It can be a decent frontline ship in the early game but gets putclassed too much later on. Of course, this goes for the Auxilia as well but that can at least retreat independantly.
      I think I'm going to keep anu future lists at the standard rosters for now. I might do one specifically for mission and influence units separately. Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your thoughts.

  • @davidpeacock7186
    @davidpeacock7186 7 місяців тому +7

    Great Video! would love to see this as a reoccurring series for other EAWx factions

  • @Ryan_Gosling_Anon
    @Ryan_Gosling_Anon 7 місяців тому +10

    Love the EaW content boss

  • @rmartinson19
    @rmartinson19 7 місяців тому +7

    You badly underrated the Diamond Cruiser. When going up against mid and late-game Republic fleets that are full of Victory-1s and Venator carriers, the Diamond is a life-saver. Cheap, easily mass-produced, quickly and easily replaced, and super fast-firing point defense is utterly priceless. Especially if you are running the Shield Penetration submod the Fall of the Republic creators made for it, which makes missiles ignore shields when dealing damage, making missiles, bombers and point defense vastly more important in every battle.
    And honestly, you overrated the Munifex frigate. It's pretty punchy for a ship its size and cost, but its speed is lackluster, it's shields and hull are weak for its cost, and its weapon range is shorter than anything it's likely to go up against. In all my playthroughs, I get almost zero use out of the Munifex. Investing those credits and pop points into the much more flexible and survivable Munificents, Diamonds, or C-9979 carriers is just a much better and more efficient use of my resources. Personally, if this was my tier list, I would have swapped the Diamond and the Munifex's positions on the chart.

    • @theedifiedgamer8350
      @theedifiedgamer8350  7 місяців тому +2

      I'm going to have to disagree a little there. They do really perform well in that anti-fighter role. Unfortunately, I've never really found Republic fighters and dbombers to be an issue. With so many of your own fighters and your carriers providing point defence, I'd say Diamonds more useful when you are purposely not making carriers.

    • @rmartinson19
      @rmartinson19 7 місяців тому +2

      @@theedifiedgamer8350 I don't use PD frigates so much for their anti-fighter capabilities (though that is a plus) but rather because fighters and bombers don't do jack to intercept missiles and bombs, while dedicated point defense frigates chew through them like they're candy.
      If you're going up against a line of Vic-1s or an early-game doomstack of Republic Invincible-class battlecruisers, putting a line of Diamonds out front effectively neuters the enemy's long-range firepower. It hands the Republic fleet a dilemma: either focus fire on the CIS heavies behind the Diamond picket line and have their effective firepower basically cut in half, or focus on destroying the cheap, easily replaceable frigates at the cost of letting the untouched CIS heavies hammer on them with impunity in the mean time. The fact that you can also park a few next to your bigger ships to intercept the ordnance of any bombers that make it through your fighter screen (thus rendering those surviving bombers effectively useless) is just icing on the cake.
      If they take the second option (which is both the smarter choice, and the one the AI tends to choose), and you are the attacker, then you can keep another bunch of Diamonds in reserve to jump in as replacements to keep the enemy fleet playing "whack-a-mole" with your throwaway frigates until you come out the other side with zero losses among your more valuable ships. I've used this tactic over and over again to shred Republic doomstacks while taking such light losses that everything can be replaced for less than the cost of a single Munificent (or for much larger battles that drag on, the cost of a single Providence).

    • @theedifiedgamer8350
      @theedifiedgamer8350  7 місяців тому +2

      That's definitely a very good point and I think it holds more gravitas when you consider the Hutts are now in the game and far more reliant on missiles.

  • @jeniferpalmoutsos5125
    @jeniferpalmoutsos5125 5 місяців тому +1

    Are you going to continue your war on the sea series?

  • @con9912
    @con9912 7 місяців тому +3

    Another great vid

  • @Sealice_the_Silver
    @Sealice_the_Silver 7 місяців тому +3

    Really cool, too bad other units are a bit too rare to discuss.

    • @theedifiedgamer8350
      @theedifiedgamer8350  7 місяців тому +1

      I might do a list specifically for mission and influence units in the future, depends what sort of feedback I recive. Thanks for watching!

  • @trevorbanks4136
    @trevorbanks4136 Місяць тому

    Until you get your providence or your bulwarks what should be your front line ?

  • @jacobgale4792
    @jacobgale4792 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video!

  • @ThePlasticSargent
    @ThePlasticSargent 7 місяців тому

    Are you going to make a third episode of war on the sea

  • @theendarkedtrooper8966
    @theendarkedtrooper8966 7 місяців тому +1

    He hasn't done entire the roster for the CIS space roster

    • @theedifiedgamer8350
      @theedifiedgamer8350  7 місяців тому +2

      I've done the standard buildable roster, unless there are a couple things I'm missing. I'm probably going to do a separate list for mission and influence units.

    • @theendarkedtrooper8966
      @theendarkedtrooper8966 7 місяців тому +1

      @@theedifiedgamer8350 ok that understandable