I'm on 40s and a Dana 30HP on my JKU. -Gussetted -Sleeved -4.56 (pentastar 3.6 has been great) -Stock shafts (I'd rather those break than my gears) -aftermarket wheel bearings -aftermarket ball joints -aftermarket bigger brake kit -NOT LOCKED (I don't think it's a good idea in a Dana 30) Only thing that's gone to shit is the driver side axle seal. My Dana 30 could care less that I'm on 40s. I'm very easy on the accelerator & choose easy lines. If I can't get over a rock I go around it. Pride is what kills these Dana 30s in my opinion
Yeah i agree with you on braking a axle shaft over a ring gear, thats why i havent beefed up the axle shafts either. Now if i could get the drive train to the point that the u joint on the drive shaft was the weak spot i would, but there are to many what ifs for that to happen. And 100% agree pride is what brakes axles, im not winning a trophy or money by getting up something, im just trying to have fun and see new places while being able to still drive home. If you cant make it up the more aggressive line pick a softer path, if that dont work pull the winch line and lay some tracks. No shame in not braking anything.
And her dana 30 is set up 4.56 gears (not sure the brand might be dana spicer or chrysler) Rough country HD ball joints Oem tie rod and drag link Anti rock sway bar No truss (at least not yet)
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells made this video for ya. Eventually I'll edit the video and make it public. There are public videos on my channel showing the different stages I've gone through. So here's my latest one. Comp cut JKU. Only one in the world that I'm aware of ua-cam.com/video/HZ-0yBToNPM/v-deo.html You'll see why I need to edit this video 😅 a lot of ummms and pauses as I think of what something is called 😆
Any JKU or JK owner w a D30 & who wants to wheel ,listen up : at 00:45 minutes,this guy in this video reveals the 'secret sauce ' for the D30 being wheeled on 35" & greater tires: the weight. if you get your weight of wheel + tire under 100lbs , you can wheel with buggy's & keep up. The total GVW is important,also. my four door , dedicated crawler 2011 jku has a trussed d30, rcvs , a torqlocker ,gussets ,sleeves , prototype ball joints and 1/4" steel brackets & I can wheel with truggy's & rigs on 42" tires all day. .. (note: you cannot put a lot of HP behind it without drive line beefing up )
You are welcome, i have more videos out talking about the updates i did and how it is holding up. With much more off roading videos showing it handling the trails.
Ok strange question then. I got 37’s on my dana 30, also 373 gears (lol i know I know) but im not having any issues except the antilock kicks on and off randomly. So what do ya recommend?
@@thereddragonslair9548 so it’s more then likely a wheel speed sensor, it also controls the ABS. You have 1 on every wheel. The front ones go into the wheel hub\ bearing. The rear goes into the back dust shield. The rear are really easy to get to, the front take a little more work to do but are pretty easy. That is the only thing that would be causing that to happen. Your tire size and gear ratio shouldn’t matter at all. We were having the same issue then sure enough my front wheel bearing started going bad. Once we replaced it the issue was gone with the light kicking on and off randomly. So sensors or wheel bearing/hub assembly is what you need to look into. But to be honest it really isn’t anything to be super concerned about.
I went with 4.88 and an eaton elocker in my dana30. How your jeep was losing traction and regaining it quicliky is why I went with a front locker. I'm on 35x10.5 but I'm thinking about doing 37s but was hesitant because the 30. I have a 2.5 inch, I'm gonna do something like you're doing (a 4" with good adjustable control arms). Keep us updated!
I’m still rocking my d30 after 3 years. Lockers are dangerous in d30’s imo. A truetrac in the front was one of the better mods that I’ve done and it’s increase off-road capability significantly (it’s like a whole new jeep
hey great honest video and i could say smart driving straight to point. no many videos with our explorations and great mechanics ideas i appreciate your videos and test not many utbers like you 😎 👍🏻
Thank you, that really means a lot. We have more real-world reviews coming and more testing out affordable products. Plus more off road and rock crawling. We are actually out on the trails at this moment, recording and making content. Thank you for watching. 😀
I agree with you..plus a Dana 30 is a 44 just a smaller ring and pinion..I’ve been running aggressive 35”s and a lunch box locker on mine for 10 years hasn’t broke yet..it goes about anywhere ..it’s 87 xj and it’s been great..I just pick the smart lines..
The dana 30 has a 27 spline, the 44 has a 30 spline, the 30 has a 6.5" ring and the 44 has a 8" ring. But everything else is 100% the same. You can change out the carrier or get a locker and run 30 spline axle shafts. Then the only difference from there is the R&P for sure. But most people dont know that. Its a tuff little axle for sure with lots of potential.
So how's the dana 30 going. Just looking for an update. I have 5.38 gears, getting truss on my 30.. next set of tire I'm upgrading to 37s from 35s. I do some pretty rough stuff with my jeep so curious to know.
mine is doing great with 38s. But can I ask why are you going with such a low gear? 5.38 is crazy low for 37s. The proper gearing for a 37 is 4.88s if you do that, your highway RPMs are going to be crazy high. Also, keep in mind the lower the gear you go, the smaller the pinion gets, that will become a weak point. Especially if your going to have lockers. Im not telling you not to do it, but just word of caution with that low gear you pinion will have a really small patch of contact on your ring gear teeth. Look up ring pinion size differences, from 4.10 4.56 4.88 5.13 and 5.13 is like nothing. I have a 6 speed with 4.56 and 38s. 4.88s would be nice but with 4.56 i can go 70 no issues and in 4low crawling is a none issue. If you have a auto and its a 7 or 8 speed getting a programmer will make up the difference on power for driving, my buddy has a JT on 37s with 4.10 and programmed his jeep and he has never had a issue. But its your jeep and i want you to do what you feel is best for your needs, this is just my thoughts on it. Also my other buddy has 39s with 5.13s and he has never had a issue but his is a ultimate dana 44.
My jeep is still sporting the Dana 30 w/ 35" tires and no diff. lockers. Until I upgrade to a Dana 44 for the front and get diff. lockers I'm gonna be doing the easier trails. So far I've yet to do any off-roading but that is going to change pretty soon. I'm about to install my new front stubby bumper w/ winch and we'll give it a go. I'm very nervous about breaking something because I'm not a mechanic and my jeep is my daily drive, so I'm gonna be going easy till I can beef it up a bit more. I'm really hoping I can afford to get it all done before I buy my next set of tires because I'm so ready for 37's". On 2nd thought, I just might say screw it and put on 37's and get my jeep re-geared and save up my money till something breaks. I would like to have lockers though but I don't want to buy lockers for a dana 30. Any idea how much a re-gear costs?
For this jeep it was 1800 for both axles because its geared with 3.73 and i went to 4.56 and needed a new carrier for the proper deck height, but if I had 4.10s then it would have only been 500 a axle. So 1000 total. We are running 38 and have taken it on some pretty good trails, and either later this year or early next year we will be putting a locker in it. So we will be taking it even further lol. You dont need to be afraid of doing your own work, its a great time to learn and get some experience and learn your rig. Its alot of fun learning and working on them as much as it is driving them.
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells Thanks. Yeah it's a tough choice for me to make. Also, I was gonna ask you, out of the Off Road parks in Texas which one do you like the best? And which one would be best for a beginner? Bridgeport Hidden Falls Buffalo Springs (looks pretty easy for beginners) Merus Park (near Palo Dura)
@Ace Goodheart hidden falls has a lot to offer for people new off roading, almost every trail has a bypass so if you run into something your worried about being to much for your rig you can go around. So if it is close to you i would definitely give it a go.
@Ace Goodheart yeah its around a 4-hour drive for me, but it's a lot of fun. What part of Texas do you live in? Because there are more parks then just thoughs.
No, it's an open diff, so it was just the differential transfering power to the wheel that was losing traction. It makes noise but isn't braking anything.
Yes and no, the 4.56 was a good gear ratio for everyday driving around Houston, but in the hills and rock crawling, it did leave a lot to be desired. So we broke the teeth on the rear dana 44. and then decided to regear to a 5.13, seeing as we had to do 1 axle, we might as well re do both. So i can tell you going from a 4.56 to a 5.13 there was a difference. With the 4.56 we had a longer rang in 1st, 2nd and 3 gear when shifting. But on the high way in the hills or against the wind we would be stuck running in 5th gear around 70. We couldn't really get into 6th. Now with the 5.13s the shift points are much sooner in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. But the hills and wind are a none issue. With the 4.56 gears we were getting around 16mpg all around, and would be about 2300rpm at 70. With the 5.13 we get around 13-14mpg and 2900 rpm at 70. So they both have there ups and down, but if rock crawling is your thing i would go 4.88s or 5.13s
@Michael Larkin you are welcome. If you have any other questions, just ask. If you haven't already subscribed, i would appreciate it if you could. We have more updates and off-roading videos coming out, we try and release one at least every week.
I drive a 2003 jeep tj i have a dana 30 front and i have a dana 35 rear. I also run 35 inch tires. Both front and rear are locked spartan locker front and rear iv been running this set up for two years no issues. I stopped listening to all those forms all you get are dont do this dont do that. I wheel the hell out of my tj also. On the topic of jk dana 30 and 44. Jk axles will definitely be able to take 37s hell i have friends that run 40s no issues.
That is awesome, i have a 03 TJ as well but i put a 8.8 in my rear But still have the dana 30 up front. Im running 36s on it. And the JK now has 38s. I like you have also stopped listening to the internet folklore, because like you said its all full of "you cant do that, you cant run them, your rig is going to blow up. Blah blah blah blah"
this is one of those debates that is on the level of the dodge/chevy/ford... Just like everything else, it's about how you use it. If you can keep the wheel speed down, keep it from bouncing, don't go full skinny pedal into a dead stop, then they 'can handle it'... but there comes a point where the actual physical strength of the tubes become the problem. D30 uses the same C, wheel bearings, brakes, tubes as a 44 for the most part. The best thing that you can do to one of these is put in some simple tube sleeves to keep the tube deflection down. C gussets and a good set of axles will make these things last. I've been part of this debate myself for many years.. and from what I have seen on the forums and groups, is that most ppl just abuse the shit out of their rigs, then blame the axle. The stuff your doing in the video is pretty mild, and it will probably do that for 10 years. The only benefit you would get from going to a 44 would be a bigger R/P and carrier.
Exactly, you hit that right on the head. We are not doing anything crazy. But the bigger tires allow us to go over things without dragging or needing to find the "perfect line". Dont get me wrong, there are times we have had to have a tug from another rig or pull the winch line out to get up and over. But i will pull winch lines and lay tracks down before i full send and skinny pedal the axle until it brakes, then blame the axle for not being better lol. We have also had to bump here and there but nothing crazy at all. Like you said, not much the gain out of a 44 but a bigger R&P and a bigger axle shaft. so unless your getting a ultimate dana 44 with 35 splines and 1/4 or 5/16 tubing. Or a truss, your not gaining much. You will have a 8" ring and a 30 spline instead of a 27 spline and a 6.5 ring. Some people have some crazy amazing rigs that they dropped tons of money into. Then trailer them to the location play for a few days then trailer it back and almost never dive it on the road (if its still even street legal) i on the other hand have 2 jeeps that are our daily drivers and weekend warriors. But this works for us now, but when or if they brake ill fix them or upgrade. Until then why spend the money. 🤷♂️
Thank you for this, I have been hearing like everyone else says they can't handle it. It doesn't look like you're locked either? It handles very well. i think I'm gonna go the 37 route too! Take care and stay safe.
Getting knuckle gussets, synergy adjustable ball joints and regearing to 4.88 in July from Exodus 4x4. Let's see how long it lasts before I have to upgrade to a d44. If you're around the New Braunfels area check out New Braunfels Trail Team 6. Would love to wheel with you sometime.
That sounds like a great set up, i also would love to see how long it handles the trails. Our dana is still going strong, i got the Rough country HD ball joints and we love them. Make a massive difference in the handling. Plus they were only 130 for all 4. I will check it out for sure and would love to meet up and do some trailing, ill have my wife get on FB as i dont have one and look you up. Maybe we can get something on the book to go trailing.
@Thomas Duhig i agree they do make really good things. I think alot of people miss out on them thinking they are cheap. But the are really good quality.
Estaba viendo un video de un puerto riqueño muy famoso que tiene jeeps muy grandes y con Dana 60 y si hermano una Cherokee normalita dana 30 y 35 el jeep de Dana 60 tubo miedo entrar donde entró la Cherokee
Respect never video on trail give right justice keep update on 30 if u go with chromoly and enjoy ur ride u building best memory with family. C gusset maximum I spend on d30 will survive before it bent.
I get that feeling of not wanting to break anything and playing it safe. I have been there many times, but how i see it is if you know something might break, then you need to plan for that break and save up to fix it or upgrade it when it does break. So we have plans to get a 44, but until this one snap crackle pops, we will keep on pushing the 30. And I agree. I think a locker on 37 or bigger would make the 30 meet its end a lot sooner than not for sure lol
If you dont have audio on the video, try to close out youtube and re open it. Because the video does have audio, but sometimes youtube will glitch, and the audio doesn't come through.
Shock load is the death of the death R&P for sure. One day we will get lockers but for now we have been pretty good at picking lines, but there has been a few times i had to get pulled or winched up. If i had a locker im pretty sure i would have been able to crawl up it. They really help with them big off set camber areas.
For anyone wanting a update on how the dana 30 is holding up. Here is the updated video.
ua-cam.com/video/4Ft36Vnllx8/v-deo.html
Thanks!
I'm on 40s and a Dana 30HP on my JKU.
-Gussetted
-Sleeved
-4.56 (pentastar 3.6 has been great)
-Stock shafts (I'd rather those break than my gears)
-aftermarket wheel bearings
-aftermarket ball joints
-aftermarket bigger brake kit
-NOT LOCKED (I don't think it's a good idea in a Dana 30)
Only thing that's gone to shit is the driver side axle seal.
My Dana 30 could care less that I'm on 40s.
I'm very easy on the accelerator & choose easy lines. If I can't get over a rock I go around it. Pride is what kills these Dana 30s in my opinion
Yeah i agree with you on braking a axle shaft over a ring gear, thats why i havent beefed up the axle shafts either. Now if i could get the drive train to the point that the u joint on the drive shaft was the weak spot i would, but there are to many what ifs for that to happen.
And 100% agree pride is what brakes axles, im not winning a trophy or money by getting up something, im just trying to have fun and see new places while being able to still drive home. If you cant make it up the more aggressive line pick a softer path, if that dont work pull the winch line and lay some tracks. No shame in not braking anything.
And her dana 30 is set up
4.56 gears (not sure the brand might be dana spicer or chrysler)
Rough country HD ball joints
Oem tie rod and drag link
Anti rock sway bar
No truss (at least not yet)
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells nice setup she has! If you'd like I can upload a video of the setup currently
@@JWard2 yeah that would be cool, i would love to see it.
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells made this video for ya. Eventually I'll edit the video and make it public. There are public videos on my channel showing the different stages I've gone through.
So here's my latest one. Comp cut JKU. Only one in the world that I'm aware of ua-cam.com/video/HZ-0yBToNPM/v-deo.html
You'll see why I need to edit this video 😅 a lot of ummms and pauses as I think of what something is called 😆
Any JKU or JK owner w a D30 & who wants to wheel ,listen up :
at 00:45 minutes,this guy in this video reveals the 'secret sauce ' for the D30 being wheeled on 35" & greater tires: the weight.
if you get your weight of wheel + tire under 100lbs , you can wheel with buggy's & keep up.
The total GVW is important,also. my four door , dedicated crawler 2011 jku has a trussed d30, rcvs , a torqlocker ,gussets ,sleeves , prototype ball joints and 1/4" steel brackets & I can wheel with truggy's & rigs on 42" tires all day. ..
(note: you cannot put a lot of HP behind it without drive line beefing up )
You hit that nail right on the head!
Thanks for the video. I'm in the same dilemma right now. Narrowing down my set up now.
You are welcome, i have more videos out talking about the updates i did and how it is holding up. With much more off roading videos showing it handling the trails.
Ok strange question then. I got 37’s on my dana 30, also 373 gears (lol i know I know) but im not having any issues except the antilock kicks on and off randomly.
So what do ya recommend?
@@thereddragonslair9548 so it’s more then likely a wheel speed sensor, it also controls the ABS. You have 1 on every wheel. The front ones go into the wheel hub\ bearing. The rear goes into the back dust shield. The rear are really easy to get to, the front take a little more work to do but are pretty easy. That is the only thing that would be causing that to happen. Your tire size and gear ratio shouldn’t matter at all. We were having the same issue then sure enough my front wheel bearing started going bad. Once we replaced it the issue was gone with the light kicking on and off randomly.
So sensors or wheel bearing/hub assembly is what you need to look into. But to be honest it really isn’t anything to be super concerned about.
I went with 4.88 and an eaton elocker in my dana30. How your jeep was losing traction and regaining it quicliky is why I went with a front locker. I'm on 35x10.5 but I'm thinking about doing 37s but was hesitant because the 30. I have a 2.5 inch, I'm gonna do something like you're doing (a 4" with good adjustable control arms). Keep us updated!
I sure will, we are on 38s now lol. And still going strong
We have a trip planned in a few weeks, going to Arkansas hot springs. So we shall see how she does.
I’m still rocking my d30 after 3 years. Lockers are dangerous in d30’s imo. A truetrac in the front was one of the better mods that I’ve done and it’s increase off-road capability significantly (it’s like a whole new jeep
We still have the dana 30 as well, even now with 38s. I do think a locker would be bad news for it though lol.
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells big difference in price and how hard truetrac’s are on diffs. Research them when you get a chance
@@joerouth6255 i will check it out
hey great honest video and i could say smart driving straight to point. no many videos with our explorations and great mechanics ideas i appreciate your videos and test not many utbers like you 😎 👍🏻
Thank you, that really means a lot. We have more real-world reviews coming and more testing out affordable products. Plus more off road and rock crawling.
We are actually out on the trails at this moment, recording and making content.
Thank you for watching. 😀
I agree with you..plus a Dana 30 is a 44 just a smaller ring and pinion..I’ve been running aggressive 35”s and a lunch box locker on mine for 10 years hasn’t broke yet..it goes about anywhere ..it’s 87 xj and it’s been great..I just pick the smart lines..
The dana 30 has a 27 spline, the 44 has a 30 spline, the 30 has a 6.5" ring and the 44 has a 8" ring. But everything else is 100% the same. You can change out the carrier or get a locker and run 30 spline axle shafts. Then the only difference from there is the R&P for sure. But most people dont know that. Its a tuff little axle for sure with lots of potential.
So how's the dana 30 going. Just looking for an update. I have 5.38 gears, getting truss on my 30.. next set of tire I'm upgrading to 37s from 35s. I do some pretty rough stuff with my jeep so curious to know.
mine is doing great with 38s. But can I ask why are you going with such a low gear? 5.38 is crazy low for 37s. The proper gearing for a 37 is 4.88s if you do that, your highway RPMs are going to be crazy high. Also, keep in mind the lower the gear you go, the smaller the pinion gets, that will become a weak point. Especially if your going to have lockers. Im not telling you not to do it, but just word of caution with that low gear you pinion will have a really small patch of contact on your ring gear teeth.
Look up ring pinion size differences, from 4.10 4.56 4.88 5.13 and 5.13 is like nothing. I have a 6 speed with 4.56 and 38s. 4.88s would be nice but with 4.56 i can go 70 no issues and in 4low crawling is a none issue.
If you have a auto and its a 7 or 8 speed getting a programmer will make up the difference on power for driving, my buddy has a JT on 37s with 4.10 and programmed his jeep and he has never had a issue.
But its your jeep and i want you to do what you feel is best for your needs, this is just my thoughts on it. Also my other buddy has 39s with 5.13s and he has never had a issue but his is a ultimate dana 44.
But the dirty little 30 is still kicking strong and doing its job, its a tuff little thing for sure.
My jeep is still sporting the Dana 30 w/ 35" tires and no diff. lockers. Until I upgrade to a Dana 44 for the front and get diff. lockers I'm gonna be doing the easier trails. So far I've yet to do any off-roading but that is going to change pretty soon. I'm about to install my new front stubby bumper w/ winch and we'll give it a go. I'm very nervous about breaking something because I'm not a mechanic and my jeep is my daily drive, so I'm gonna be going easy till I can beef it up a bit more. I'm really hoping I can afford to get it all done before I buy my next set of tires because I'm so ready for 37's".
On 2nd thought, I just might say screw it and put on 37's and get my jeep re-geared and save up my money till something breaks. I would like to have lockers though but I don't want to buy lockers for a dana 30.
Any idea how much a re-gear costs?
For this jeep it was 1800 for both axles because its geared with 3.73 and i went to 4.56 and needed a new carrier for the proper deck height, but if I had 4.10s then it would have only been 500 a axle. So 1000 total.
We are running 38 and have taken it on some pretty good trails, and either later this year or early next year we will be putting a locker in it. So we will be taking it even further lol.
You dont need to be afraid of doing your own work, its a great time to learn and get some experience and learn your rig. Its alot of fun learning and working on them as much as it is driving them.
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells Thanks. Yeah it's a tough choice for me to make.
Also, I was gonna ask you, out of the Off Road parks in Texas which one do you like the best? And which one would be best for a beginner?
Bridgeport
Hidden Falls
Buffalo Springs (looks pretty easy for beginners)
Merus Park (near Palo Dura)
@Ace Goodheart hidden falls has a lot to offer for people new off roading, almost every trail has a bypass so if you run into something your worried about being to much for your rig you can go around. So if it is close to you i would definitely give it a go.
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells Awesome. That's the closest one to me. Still a good drive though.
@Ace Goodheart yeah its around a 4-hour drive for me, but it's a lot of fun. What part of Texas do you live in? Because there are more parks then just thoughs.
Whats the ratcheting noise when shes climbing at around 4:45 is that a lunchbox locker?
No, it's an open diff, so it was just the differential transfering power to the wheel that was losing traction. It makes noise but isn't braking anything.
How do you feel about he 4.56’s? Do you ever feel like you should have gone more than that?
Yes and no, the 4.56 was a good gear ratio for everyday driving around Houston, but in the hills and rock crawling, it did leave a lot to be desired.
So we broke the teeth on the rear dana 44. and then decided to regear to a 5.13, seeing as we had to do 1 axle, we might as well re do both.
So i can tell you going from a 4.56 to a 5.13 there was a difference. With the 4.56 we had a longer rang in 1st, 2nd and 3 gear when shifting. But on the high way in the hills or against the wind we would be stuck running in 5th gear around 70. We couldn't really get into 6th.
Now with the 5.13s the shift points are much sooner in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. But the hills and wind are a none issue.
With the 4.56 gears we were getting around 16mpg all around, and would be about 2300rpm at 70. With the 5.13 we get around 13-14mpg and 2900 rpm at 70.
So they both have there ups and down, but if rock crawling is your thing i would go 4.88s or 5.13s
Awesome, really appreciate it.
@Michael Larkin you are welcome. If you have any other questions, just ask. If you haven't already subscribed, i would appreciate it if you could. We have more updates and off-roading videos coming out, we try and release one at least every week.
Hi , any update on the 37 dana 30 combo ?? I believe your axle is completely stock ??
Yes they are besides doing the 4.56 gears and HD ball joints. The axle is hanging in with no issues, in fact we are actually running 38s now lol.
Sounds good
I drive a 2003 jeep tj i have a dana 30 front and i have a dana 35 rear. I also run 35 inch tires. Both front and rear are locked spartan locker front and rear iv been running this set up for two years no issues. I stopped listening to all those forms all you get are dont do this dont do that. I wheel the hell out of my tj also. On the topic of jk dana 30 and 44. Jk axles will definitely be able to take 37s hell i have friends that run 40s no issues.
That is awesome, i have a 03 TJ as well but i put a 8.8 in my rear
But still have the dana 30 up front. Im running 36s on it. And the JK now has 38s. I like you have also stopped listening to the internet folklore, because like you said its all full of "you cant do that, you cant run them, your rig is going to blow up. Blah blah blah blah"
this is one of those debates that is on the level of the dodge/chevy/ford... Just like everything else, it's about how you use it. If you can keep the wheel speed down, keep it from bouncing, don't go full skinny pedal into a dead stop, then they 'can handle it'... but there comes a point where the actual physical strength of the tubes become the problem. D30 uses the same C, wheel bearings, brakes, tubes as a 44 for the most part. The best thing that you can do to one of these is put in some simple tube sleeves to keep the tube deflection down. C gussets and a good set of axles will make these things last. I've been part of this debate myself for many years.. and from what I have seen on the forums and groups, is that most ppl just abuse the shit out of their rigs, then blame the axle. The stuff your doing in the video is pretty mild, and it will probably do that for 10 years. The only benefit you would get from going to a 44 would be a bigger R/P and carrier.
Exactly, you hit that right on the head. We are not doing anything crazy. But the bigger tires allow us to go over things without dragging or needing to find the "perfect line".
Dont get me wrong, there are times we have had to have a tug from another rig or pull the winch line out to get up and over. But i will pull winch lines and lay tracks down before i full send and skinny pedal the axle until it brakes, then blame the axle for not being better lol. We have also had to bump here and there but nothing crazy at all.
Like you said, not much the gain out of a 44 but a bigger R&P and a bigger axle shaft. so unless your getting a ultimate dana 44 with 35 splines and 1/4 or 5/16 tubing. Or a truss, your not gaining much. You will have a 8" ring and a 30 spline instead of a 27 spline and a 6.5 ring.
Some people have some crazy amazing rigs that they dropped tons of money into. Then trailer them to the location play for a few days then trailer it back and almost never dive it on the road (if its still even street legal) i on the other hand have 2 jeeps that are our daily drivers and weekend warriors. But this works for us now, but when or if they brake ill fix them or upgrade. Until then why spend the money. 🤷♂️
Thank you for this, I have been hearing like everyone else says they can't handle it. It doesn't look like you're locked either? It handles very well. i think I'm gonna go the 37 route too! Take care and stay safe.
You are welcome, and no i am not locked in. It is a open diff for the time being but it has held up really well so far.
I am currently running 35 inch tires and was looking to do a lunch box locker in the front
Getting knuckle gussets, synergy adjustable ball joints and regearing to 4.88 in July from Exodus 4x4. Let's see how long it lasts before I have to upgrade to a d44. If you're around the New Braunfels area check out New Braunfels Trail Team 6. Would love to wheel with you sometime.
That sounds like a great set up, i also would love to see how long it handles the trails. Our dana is still going strong, i got the Rough country HD ball joints and we love them. Make a massive difference in the handling. Plus they were only 130 for all 4.
I will check it out for sure and would love to meet up and do some trailing, ill have my wife get on FB as i dont have one and look you up. Maybe we can get something on the book to go trailing.
How are your upgrades doing
I build a d30 for my 2002 jeep wj. Been thinking of 37s lol. I'm on 35vs 4.88 gears. Well built d30, rcv axle shafts, etc, @Wj4x4offroad
@QBALB yeah we are running 38s on the JK and are thinking about going to 40s now 😂😂
What rock sliders are you running?
On the JK they are EAG got them onn ebay for i think 200
@@JeepTrailsandBarbells cool. I’ve looked at theirs. I have the same exact rear bumper as your jk and i think they make pretty good stuff
@Thomas Duhig i agree they do make really good things. I think alot of people miss out on them thinking they are cheap. But the are really good quality.
I’m running red rock triple tube side armor,
What are those tires actually measure out to be
They are 37x14r15 but are 36.5 before mount and 36.2 after mount. We are now running 38s they measured out to 37.8
What about using a locker?
Our jeep has open diffs, we haven't got around to getting lockers yet so i cant really answer that at the moment.
Estaba viendo un video de un puerto riqueño muy famoso que tiene jeeps muy grandes y con Dana 60 y si hermano una Cherokee normalita dana 30 y 35 el jeep de Dana 60 tubo miedo entrar donde entró la Cherokee
Exactly! The dana 30 gets a lot of hate for no reason
Sounds crunchy
It can at times lol
Respect never video on trail give right justice keep update on 30 if u go with chromoly and enjoy ur ride u building best memory with family. C gusset maximum I spend on d30 will survive before it bent.
I been on 40s on dana 30 with 5:13 gears for 4+ years now with no problems. I tear the sh&% out of my Jeep to.
Hell yeah, thats good to know. I think most people doom them all of internet folklore 🤣
But never really give them a true test.
What upgrades have you done to the 30 so far if you don't mind me asking?
@Jacob the only thing i have done is change the gears to 4.56 and put HD ball joints and that is it. So far so good.
37’s locked is the death of a Dana 30 if you wheel hard. I’d rather have 35’s locked and not have to worry about anything when I’m beating on it
I get that feeling of not wanting to break anything and playing it safe. I have been there many times, but how i see it is if you know something might break, then you need to plan for that break and save up to fix it or upgrade it when it does break. So we have plans to get a 44, but until this one snap crackle pops, we will keep on pushing the 30.
And I agree. I think a locker on 37 or bigger would make the 30 meet its end a lot sooner than not for sure lol
No audio ?
What do you mean?
If you dont have audio on the video, try to close out youtube and re open it. Because the video does have audio, but sometimes youtube will glitch, and the audio doesn't come through.
Running a front locker on the 30 is actually safer then open diff..you don’t shock load the ring and pinion..people just truly don’t know..nice video
Shock load is the death of the death R&P for sure. One day we will get lockers but for now we have been pretty good at picking lines, but there has been a few times i had to get pulled or winched up. If i had a locker im pretty sure i would have been able to crawl up it. They really help with them big off set camber areas.
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Looks like you wheel in low traction conditions, the D30 should hold up fine.
I just hope it holds up regardless the traction 🤣🤣