Remo UT vs Remo USA Part 1
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Here we measure the head thickness of different Remo heads to see if there is a difference between US and Asian made Remo heads. Remo Asian/UT heads are definitely serviceable and sound decent. They are constructed slightly differently and may be subject to pulling out as show with this snare side head (1 1/2 years old). My thoughts: Use them until a regular interval to change them out. No need to immediately replace them as the sonic quality for a basic medium thickness head is quite good. Coating may be a bit sketchy compared to US made as shown here on the snare drum. Again, this drum is 1.5 years old not heavily gigged with and leads one to wonder why the coating is basically flaking off. UT heads have steel flesh hoops and are crimped in place. USA Remo heads have an aluminum channel where the mylar is epoxied in place. Unknown: Mylar being used. Is it the same? If not, durability and tone may be affected. Tonally I can't really tell without comparing two of the same drums. I will try to do a before and after with a tom tom and see what we get. Stay tuned and subbed! Be sure to check out Part 2 where I test these 2 heads in a side by side comparison.
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Mine says Remo UT Drum Head made in China on top. The Reso side (bottom) says Remo UC head made in china. Is the UT an Ambassador weight and the UC Diplomat? The drums already sound great when tuned. Not as much ring as a maple kit but I was impressed with the sound. I want to replace the heads with Remo USA and would love to know what the Mills are for the UT vs UC. Does anyone know?
I have noticed the UT UC thing too. Batter side would be standard 10 mil (.010") and snare side standard is 3mil (.003"). In Remo that's Ambassador batter. Snare side is called Ambassador Hazy or snare side. Same thickness as I described.
@@jimflys2 Thanks for the reply. I don't have the tool you have but I have regular calipers. I cut off the rim of the heads so just the flat part of the heads remain. That way I could get an accurate measurement with my calipers. I didn't want to cut up the UC head but really wanted to know. They were both exactly 10 mil clear heads. I also have some coated ones from a hip kit but will guess that it's the same with that extra little mil with the coating. Just thought I would pass that on. These are all on my toms and floor toms. I have 7 different sizes of the Stage custom mixed with he hip kit. I did not do the snare but I will use your measurements on those. The UC labels really had me wondering and I know now they are the same mil. UC must be new to keep track of bottom heads from tops in the factory I'm guessing.
@@marc8vino UT and UC may have been not really a lot number, but possibly even location of origin. I am sure I have seen batter heads with 10mil that were also UC or UT. I am almost thinking I saw another one....hmm. Anyway I don't think there is any meaningful difference other than the obvious snare side verses batter side. They are all crimped and have shallow collars unlike Remo, Evans, Aquarian etc. Even old Ludwig crimped are size similar to Remo. The UT heads have a pretty heavy steel collar instead of aluminum channel and epoxy. There may be a good argument for resonance there. Maybe.
@@jimflys2 Thanks again. I did not look at my snare heads but the tom heads top and bottom are 10 mill so a cheaper version of USA Remo Ambassadors. Thanks Again for your video and your insights.
I’ve got some old Ludwig drum heads from the 70’s has the matalic Ludwig logo stamped on it one is blue and one is gold in great condition I don’t know if thay make it like old new stock maybe reproduce it
They were making 14" heads. Possibly only snare side heads now. I think the gold ones were from the late 1970's. That's when I had one. Blue, was a bit earlier I think. Black from the 60's.
Yeah that will be great I’m sure it can reproduce it
Yup... I had a UT coated head on my snare when i bought my 1st drum set, the coating didn't last very long. Then i replaced it with an asian Coated Ambassador (Remo Encore) and i still have that on my snare after several years, the coating is all there still. For the toms i replaced the UT stock heads with Encore Pinstripes, and then eventually replaced them with american Remo Emperors. No difference in sound honestly. Only issue i ever had was one of the Encore heads on my 12'' tom appeared to have some massive wrinkles even when tensioned, maybe warped? Then again the ones on my other toms are still in perfect shape.
I would put the drum on a flat board to see if the problem is with a non level or out of true drum. Still, I have had USA Remo and Evans heads that were damaged in shipping or took a hit and they were wrinkled and would not seat properly on a known correct drum. It happens.
@@jimflys2 The big wrinkles were there when i removed the drumhead, the new emperor drumhead i put in looks perfectly flat
Thank you sir. You answered a very important question.
Which one did I answer?
GRETSCH catalina jazz club used evans heads before remo ut , I think sounds good , but coating its bad...GREAT INFORMATION::::👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Good job, thanks
Try Evans UV2. The coating should last better.
Absolutely correct. I have one on the snare drum now and they are pretty indestructible. I made a blanket statement there. Their sprayed coatings leave much to be desired, but the UV coatings are UV cured, so really good!
I love gretch drums but never like the snare drums!!
Same. this snare I do like. For some reason it sounds and records well.