I've always said fibromyalgia is a symptom, Not the root cause of the problem. The root cause of my fibromyalgia was hypothyroidism and then later my fibromyalgia pain came back because my hormones tanked ... once I got on bio-identical hormones, the fibromyalgia pain went away. So many people, especially women, suffer so bad because most doctors don't care to treat Thyroid & Hormonal issues. Thank you for your videos!🙂
Ime suffering 6 years chronic muscle pain even though my father had CFS from thyroid that took 12 years for his thyroid to go off I want a reverse T3 Dr doesn't no.crazy sure they live to see us suffer brilliant you got well
@@Truerealism747... I'm a lot better, but I'm not 100% yet. I pray I do recover a 100% ... not sure I will, seeing that I got neglected and ignored for so long with thyroid & hormones, it did cause some "damage" to my body unfortunately.
@@Gigi-kr6ek what has it caused damage to you I believe I am to ime awaiting to go on ldn ldn heals they are terrible checking for thyroid my father had CFS was thyroid I have fybro symptoms but no reverse T3 been done huh
Dr. Child’s is such a blessing. Thanks to him I found a functional medicine doctor in my area via a compounding pharmacy. The only doctor in the last ten years to take me seriously and treat my thyroid problem. After 7 months on Cytomel and weight lifting I got to such an amazing pain free point in my life. Push through the fatigue and pain, I figured I might as well improve my muscle tone and performance if I was going to be in pain either way. Next step is to find a myofacia therapist for long term maintenance of my new found freedom.
I am 33. Dealt with chronic upper back pain and neck pain since I was 26 and got progressively worst. A physician who also does hormonal work, told me that my hypothyroidism was maltreated even though my THC was in the correct range. He prescribed me medication for T3 and after 2 months my pain is gone. My pain was so bad that I could barely sit for more than 5 minutes. I still have some pain in the neck but it’s a complete different pain and way more manageable. It’s likely related to weakness and loss of cervical curvature which I’m working on resolving through stretching and strength training. But I’m so glad my doctor point to this issue with hypothyroidism. It’s been life changing.
I had a crisis of pain in my back, my joints and my shoulders and a severe fatigue. I though I had either lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. All blood tests came out negative for lupus and arthritis but my tsh level was very high. The crisis lasted for a few months and stopped once I took the correct amount of thyroid hormones. Thank you doctor for such a valuable information.
Wow! Your comment really encourages me. I have been so afraid the past six weeks that I have arthritis but I have very low thyroid I just found out and my hormones are all off. Are you healing well now? Do you have to stay on the medicine for thyroid for life?
You may need T3. The question is what is causing your T3 not to get into your cells if that is the problem. It could be reactivated Epstein Barr or something to do with your deoidinase enzymes. It could be problems in the GI. So, yes, you can try to fix the underlying problem while taking thyroid hormones (NDT or T3) and eventually decrease the dose. Dr. Child's wife was able to decrease her medication from treating her underlying issues. Please see a functional medicine doctor. @@-living4jesus4ever-
(1.) "5:36" -- the need for T3 medication. At "6:02" some particular ones are named, e.g. Liothyronine, Cytomel, etc. At "6:37" dosing is mentioned. 20 to 25 mcg (equivalent to two to three grains of, say, Armour Thyroid) of T3 recommended by Dr. Childs ("6:50"). (2.) "7:25" -- the need for exercising the affected muscles to the point tolerable. (3.) "8:38" -- the need for muscle-based therapy, e.g. deep manual massaging, etc. Another option is "trigger-point injection therapy" ("10:03").
I have muscle knots all over. The doctor just told me that I likely have fibromyalgia call me and told me to do massage therapy to help. It hurts really bad, so I quit going. Thank you for posting this, it makes so much sense!
Hi can you tell me more please. I do suffered too. Is it because of thyroid?? I have legs pain often come up if I stop thyroid medications for long time.
I feel you on the muscles contacting and not relaxing. My spine spasmed for like 3 weeks and would not relax. The pain was so unbearable I think I have PTSD from it. So true.
I feel this comment so much. I cramp no matter what I do. I'm trying to see if I have hypothyroidism at the moment. I had to go to the ER and doctor so many times for my cramps.....it's insane and terrifying....I'm an ex national gymnast and can endure a lot of pain but this level of cramping is unbearable.
Thanks again for another excellent content filled video. It verifies what I have thought for months - that this medication and exercise/physical modalities combination is improving my QOL tremendously by considering multiple inflammatory conditions from an holistic approach. I have the triple whammy of hashi's, significant degenerative osteoarthritis (mainly spine), and psoriatic arthritis. The PSA diagnosis came on in the last 4 years and when it did, my thyroid labs started varying like a roller coaster, and my fatigue and aches got out of control. Medication for the PSA helped, but it was when my awesome PC (who treats my thyroid similar to your approach) switched my thyroid treatment to an SR T3 as primary, with a smaller dose of t4 (tirosint), and added anti-inflammatory supplements, that I started to feel 'in remission'. Its been about 10 months since we made that switch and the overall muscle tension that I've struggled with for years, improved dramatically. I've also become extremely diligent with my diet, and now am able to exercise up to 5 days a week. In fact, time to go get ready for the pool, followed by the hot tub and then some time in the IR sauna. It can feel like a full time job to keep these symptoms in check - but its well worth it. I can say that following your content and trying your suggestions makes this all possible. I wouldn't know even a sliver of what to do without what you've shared over the years. It absolutely makes a difference - thank you! :)
I've been through this exact situation and took T3 and it really helped me great deal. I wish I've known this long time ago. I was sick of the pain and fatigue . I did the three steps you mentioned in the video and the symptoms are lighter than before. Love from Egypt 🇪🇬. I'm a great fan.
Hi Enas, أنا من مصر برضو وشيلت الغده من كام شهر ولسه جسمي تعبان جداً وعضلاتي تعبانه وباخد التروكسين ١٥٠ ثلات مرات في الاسبوع وباقي الاسبوع باخد ٢٠٠ وباخد كالسيوم وفيتامين دي ولسه وفات وقت شهور ولسه برضو عضلاتي وجسمي تاعبني فا ياريت تقوليلي انتي اخدتي T3 لوحده؟؟ والا عملتي ايه بالظبط وشكراً جدا♥️🙏🏻
@@nourradwan2777 السلام عليكم انا دوخت لغاية م لاقيت T3 فى مصر بس هو مش موجود في الصيدليات. انا جبته من مصدر بيجيب ل ناس بتتدرب كمال اجسام فى الجيم لأنهم بيحتاجوه. و ممكن حد يجيبهولك من برة مصر. و كنت بسحب الدواء بالتدريج. يعنى يوم اخد T3 و يوم اخد التروكسين لمد تلات اسابيع و بعد كده بقيت اخد T3 كل يوم لوحده. بس لازم تعمل تحليل بعد م تمشى عليه لوحده بعد تلات اسابيع علشان تشوف نسبة ال Tsh . كل قرص ,25 من T3 يساوى 50 من الالتروكسين.كمان لازم تعرفى أن T3 بيقلل رقم ال ,TSH جدآ يعنى ممكن تحتاجى أقل من 75 من ال t3 . ضرورى ضرورى تخلى بالك أنه لازم تبدأ بجرعة صغيرة من الT3 مش اكتر من 25 لمدة أسبوعين مثلا وبعد كده تزودى T3 و تقللى من الالتروكسين لانه بيزود ضربات القلب جدا و فى الاول هتبقى مزعجة ليكى و متشربيش قهوة أو شاى إلا بعد ساعتين تلاته من وقت الدواء علشان ضربات القلب و الضغط. انت شيلتى الغدة يعنى وضعك غيرى. و لازم تحليل ليكى كل تلات اسابيع علشان تعرفى التغير فى الدواء بيعمل ايه فى ال TSH و ده مرهق ماديا و كمان ال t3 غالى جدا لانه مستورد. معلش لازم اقول لك برضو أن مفيش دكتور هيوافق أنه يتابعك و انت بتاخدى دواء مش موجود في الصيدليات. يعنى انت مع نفسك و قرار انك تاخد الدواء مسؤوليتك انت. انا اخدت القرار مع نفسي و هتحمل نتيجته مع نفسي. لو عندك مشاكل فى القلب و الضغط بلاش T3 خالص. اللى ممكن يحسن معاكى الام الجسم من دلوقتي حالا هو ممارسة الرياضة تلات مرات على الأقل فى الأسبوع و الاصرار عليه و تحمل الألم . انا عارفه أنه صعب و انا اتألمت كتير بس اصريت اكمل و كل مرة الألم بيقل. كنت مش بكمل خمس دقائق مشى حتى. ربنا معاكي. 🙏
@@nourradwan2777 انا نسيت اقولك أن ممكن تاخدى الالتركسين مع T3 و هتحسى بفرق و تحسن ملحوظ فى حالتك بردو . و ده مع رياضة أساسى. علشان الاستفادة من فوائد ال T3 و تجنب أضراره . يعنى تاخدى T3 25و تكملى الجرعة اليومية ب التروكسين. انا ابتديت بالمشى البسيط و بعد كده اشتركت فى الجيم و شيلت أحمال بسيطة.
I love this channel, I suffer from Graves’ disease and have all kinds of symptoms including pain and fatigue. I will really appreciate more info about that type of thyroid problems since hypothyroidism is the most mentioned and not much of hyperthyroidism info is out there
I been taking a natural approach with lemon balm, magnesium, vitamins, black seed oil capsules and other herbs and my symptoms have subsided . I could stop medicating and my TSH is now stable thank God. Hope this helps
I had fibromyalgia for 17 yrs. At the time I had thyroid problems but didn't find out till many years later. I took D Ribose 5gm 3x day. On the 3rd day (!) I began feeling a change. In less than 9 mos I was pain free. Last yr I had my thyroid removed and have pain again that comes and goes. Am thinking about adding D Ribose again.
Thank you doctor, since my thyroidectomy I have a chronic knot in my shoulder that extends to my head, my husband massages my as you explained using some types of oils, they are very useful 👍
@@gingerquinlan7953inesmmovednfrom tightness in thyroid 2 years to horrendous pain in collerbone two years now it's shoulders armpit s are you any bettr
Oh my goodness! You don’t know how happy I am for this information. Before I was Dx with hypothyroid/Hashimotos I had chronic right hip pain. Once I got on Levo the pain went away. A year ago until currently I have pain in my left hip (feels like how the right hip felt) and in my right foot mostly. It feels like planter fasciitis kind of, but more like a cramp if your low on magnesium. I take magnesium everyday and have been on keto for 3 years. I didn’t get these symptoms until after I was sick with “Rona”. I had it once like this before after I had my baby, until my medication was adjusted at postpartum. I switched to taking armour and liothyronine. I still have the pain in my foot and hip. But my reverse t3 started at 20 and now it’s down to 11, but my free t3 is still low. I am going to see if I can go from 10 mcg to 20 of the liothyronine 🤞 and hopefully that will help. I do planter fasciitis Stretches and exercises but it doesn’t help. I just want to be able to move again 😭 without pain.
@@CinRacing before I knew I had a thyroid problem I did weight watchers and worked out at the gym. I started getting hip pain. I went in and saw a D.O. Doctor and a physical therapist. I did stretches and all kinds of things. I was even told my hip was turned a little. When I became pregnant, My TSH was slightly elevated and then they tested for Hashimotos. It came back with high antibodies. A few months before the diagnosis I was starting to get foot pain as well. Once diagnosed I was put on a low dose of Levothyroxine. Within a week the foot pain and hip pain went away. I felt amazing. When I went into postpartum I had no hip pain but painful foot pain in both feet and it hurt to walk down the stairs. After my labs were checked and they adjusted meds, the pain went away. Fast forward to getting Corona. Once I was done being sick, it left me with left hip pain (same feeling as I’ve had before) and foot pain (almost like it’s the Calcaneus bone) I’ve tried taking Iodine (as I’ve heard someone else say they did that and it worked) but here I am a year later still in pain. I was living off of ibuprofen for awhile because as the day goes on the harder it is to walk. I have learned that trying to heal the gut (Leaky gut- which I never thought I had) can help. I’ve never had issues with food bothering me. I have given up gluten and my Hashimotos antibodies are doing down. I started taking L Glutamine. To help heal the stomach lining from all the ibuprofen (which can cause leaky gut) leaky gut can make it harder to absorb things. I just had labs drawn and I am low in ferritin (I wasn’t before) and Vitamin D. I hoping this will help with thyroid medicine absorption as well.
@@Truerealism747 I still get the pain off and on. It seems to be due to inflammation. It recently just started to go away. I wish I knew what the triggers were. Taking armour and liothyronine (now 25) seems to help someone with feeling tired. I’ve added in turmeric. My thyroids levels (TSH, free t3, free t4 and reverse t3) are pretty optimal. So I can only think this is a Hashimotos flair. I have no idea how to get rid of the pain as it starts to come on. I do take doctor childs omega 3 🤷♀️
@@ajatracy1299 do you have hypomobility by any chance this is the link can't get my Dr to do anything but my TSH? Even though my father CFS was his thyroid and took years to come off scale he now ok.
Been on levothyroxine for years and my TSH keep going up and up. Now at 56, not .56 and I'm on .325 mcg of levo. Recently lost 40 lbs low carb, have up all sugar and processed foods. Have zero hypothyroid symptoms. I am so confused. My hands and feet always hot , not cold. A little thinning hair but not severe. I did have some muscle pain prior to losing weight. Feel 20 yrs younger. How do I get T3 med??
I'm on 112 t4 tirosint and 10 t3 cytomel. Lots of upper body muscle pain daily. How much t3 can be taken at one time? I take my 10 t3 in the morning even tho my dr recommended 5 twice a day. No thyroid. When I push myself in exercise my energy tanks for days.
Can you give me the name of a doctor I can get help from online? I know I am hypothyroid but my TSH is normal and so are other thyroid tests. My mother was hypothyroid all her life. I am even having problems absorbing vitamins and minerals etc. because of low T3. I cannot sleep and am up all night with pain. I hope you read this and can help me. Thank you.
I had a hyperthyroidism episode recently and while it was scary (the anxiety and so on) I finally felt so relieved not to have the everyday body pain everywhere every minute and not being so awfully fatigued all the time and my metabolism wow i could eat and didn't feel the everyday slow digestion and bloating all over from face to feet. Now back to everything again...as the pain has come back and yes massages do help but sometimes they escalated the body pain even more for hours after the massage . You are definately right about the excersise part ....as hard as it is getting going when your entire body hurts day and night and lack of energy: when I did do a month of fitness I felt much much better in terms of body pain (energy not so much😅). T4 medication did make me have more energy which I liked but the side effects were too much for me I lost like 2/3 of my hair in just a few weeks so no thank you never again will I be taking T4.
My son has this problem. He had his thyroid removed. And after that he has had the chronic pain and fatigue. The endocrinologist he has seen goes by the book and does not want to give t3 in any meaningful way. My question is how do you find a doctor that has an open mind.
Hi, I live in Amsterdam. I have a horrible pain at the begging of my legs which does not go away for 8 months already. Doctors in here only prescribe for Hashimoto's Levothyroxine. I can not get by myself T3 medication. What you would suggest to me since to reduce the extremely huge pain ?
What your saying makes sense….pushing your muscles to the limit reminds me of the same response that using microneedling on your face does it to release collegen and elastin to stimulate regeneration. I just saw my endocrinologist and all my level are perfect he said. I’m on .1 mg of synthroid. When I asked him about my chronic muscle aches and whether it was related. He asked if it was weakness? I said well I limp a lot because my leg muscles keep locking up and my upper back spasming. I told him the only thing that helps is when I soak in Epsom salts. He laughed and it only works if you take it eternally. So he put me on 250 mg PO magnesium and 2000 IU vitamin D. I wish I knew about taking T3.
The dose of vitamin D he put you on, is a joke! 2000ui a day a enough for baby NOT for adult, you need minimum 10,000ui a day to help bring levels up,look into B1 deficiency it also can cause a lot of muscle aches,also for B1 to work effectively you must take more maguinesium if you deficient in maguinesium You need higher doses to make B1 more absorbable.
Just giving some of what I have experienced here: I have Chronic Lyme dissease. I am on T3 Lyothyronine 55mcg. I take at 25mg 6:30 am and 30mcg 3:30 pm. I have the pain you describe all the time. It gets worse at night. I am wondering if this is due to the T3 being so short acting and it has worn off by early evening. Past 2 months I have been doing deep tissue Eastern Massage 2x a week for 90 min. It gets expensive so I cut back to 1x a week and I've been back to far more pain vs going 2x a week. The language barrier is tough to communicate but her technique is exactly as you describe and without even voicing what is hurting the most without fail she finds it and ends up working on that area longer. I am always knotted up everywhere. Massage is always painful. I also lift 5x a week and push myself and have for 10+ years....I just assumed I was always knotted up so horrifically due to lifting. I can say without doubt that these intense massages have greatly helped. The issue is it's tough spending $1k a month on massages. I have massage guns as well but they can't go deep or hard enough compared to getting a massage. Dr. Child, I had a consult with you a couple years ago and you gave me some ideas to investigate, including Lyme. I wanted to share a recent therapy I tried that GREATLY helped my chronic EBV flair ups. I did a 5 day treatment of Thymosin Alpha 1 in Sept. I always get sick when I travel and always see to get a EBV flair up in Oct (typically get 3 to 4 a year). I just recently traveled on a very physically taxing vacation. I did not get sick nor did I even feel slightly immune compromised after vacation. I've never experienced this. Did the Thymosin help, was it all the massages that have helped, I'm not sure only time will tell. But so far it seems the Thymosin Alpha 1 may have regulated my immune system much better. Wish I would have tried this very inexpensive therapy much much sooner. Not sure if you are familiar with that but would love some videos on Peptide therapy.
Hi Jason, I just read your comment. I have hypothyroidism and have been taking about 86 mcg of T3. I recently started having debilitating symptoms including severe pain from trigger points in my upper left back and shoulder area which led to frozen shoulder. Finally, I decided to increase my last dose of T3 and my symptoms are resolving. I read that many need to increase their T3 dose in the winter months because of the temperature. Good luck to you.
I have tendon pain in my forearms, front thighs and foot arches. Found out I was hypo and pain had decreased on Levothyroxine, but I just switched to NP thyroid and I feel less fatigue but more pain in my forearms and feet. Very very tight muscles . Does this mean I shouldn’t be on T3? Doctor doesn’t think I need to increase dosage
Dr Childs you are incredibly knowledgable and you have helped many people Im sure. I almost cant make myself listen to you though, because you talk SOOOOOOOOOOO FAST! Its distracting and annoying to me. I cant be the only person who has ever mentioned this. Please slow your talking/presentation down. Thanks! I so appreciate your information.
Thank you so much Dr. Childs for this information. I need a shove to start regularly exercising. Got dxd with Hashi thyroiditis by a regular GP a couple of months ago. Now I need a functional medical doctor, as my GP is not aware of all the info in treating this dx. I live in a rural area, and there's only one functional doctor, and she can't see me until the end of next March!
I got my test. I do not have enough t3 hormone. T4 and TSH are in upper 50%. Can this be cured by figuring out vitamin/mineral deficincie or I need medicine.
Have a case where I injured my wrist and I felt like it should have been something that I could recover from in a few days it’s been almost a month and I’m still dealing with pain. I have Hashimotos and still in process of getting my TSH to optimal range. will pain go away if can control my TSH?
The one that I showed in this video is not the one I normally use, I have a couple including a professional version. Ideally, you'd want to find one that vibrates at the ideal frequency and that is different for each individual.
After a De Quervain Thyroiditis I became permanent hypothyroid (it happened 4 years ago, I couldnt even swallow for a month and a half). How ofter does this happen? It is not mentioned as a possible cause in the videos. Should I be concerned?
Hello Dr. I'm having hyperthyroidism since 2014 with tsh level about 0.001 but ft4 normal. I'm taking neo mercazole and calcite 600 and vitamin D injections after every 6 months but always tsh low level is not increasing. Dr. Says it hyperthyroid and graves disease. What should i do to increase my tsh level and how can i escape from this disease? Please help me to get out of this problem.please reply
Recently i was diagnose with myofascial pain syndrome my neck is always tight, and i feel the adhesion on my muscle when im moving....i had hypothroidism before its been a while i didnt ask my doctor to check my t3 and t4 maybe this is reason why my muscle stiffness and tension doesnt away..
I have hyper mobility type ehlers danlos syndrome and have found that when my free T3 falls in to “normal ranges“ my joint pain increases because my muscles are more fatigued. It feels almost like I am going through opioid withdrawal. I take tirosint and cytomel. The t4 helps with my sleepiness/fatigue and cytomel helps with everything else. I have tried to take just t4 and just t3 but onto the combo works for me. Due to malabsorption from PAN ulcerative colitis, I have to take high dose of both hormones and keep my levels higher than normal to feel like a functional human being.
I have the extreme version of hyperthyroidism and i am constant pain muscle wise, and i lack so much tissue and muscle its absurd, that’s interesting and I didn’t know fibromyalgia is linked to hyperthyroidism that explains the constant nonstop pain everyday.
I’ve been having fluctuating hypo/hyper thyroid symptoms. I was diagnosed with subacute thyroiditis after my bloods came back normal but I insisted due to hoarse voice, swallowing difficulty, fatigue, hair loss and other symptoms that there has to be something wrong so I got an ultrasound and I had inflammation in my thyroid. It did go away for a couple of months but it’s recurred and I’m in so much pain all over right now. My doctors aren’t taking it seriously. They’re just saying to take ibuprofen and it’ll go away but that’s not helping. I’m severely underemployed and exhausted and stuck.
I don’t think it viral thyroiditis. My grandmother has Hashimoto’s and her father died of a thyrotoxic crisis resulting in cardiac arrest. I know it’s rare but I think I have serum negative Hashimoto’s and the hyper symptoms are happening when the thyroid cells are being destroyed releasing too much thyroid hormone then going through phases of hypo that aren’t being picked up because bloods aren’t monitored frequently enough or something. Idk why I feel so awful but everything looks “normal” on tests apart from the ultrasound. I also don’t know how to get help because functional medicine is so expensive and because I’ve been so sick I just can’t afford it.
t4 and t3 medication cause inflamation, that is hs crp to go very high like 3.7, when i gave up the medication for a week, which i could my hs crp came to 0.9, please make a vedio on your clinical experience regarding this
I used to take Tylenol 3 with codeine that my ENT gave me when had my thyroid removed until I ran out of them and phone my family doctor to refill the prescription. He would refill for some stupid reason. I don’t think that was right for him to say that. That would be my ENT to determine whether he would give me the prescription or not.
I wonder if chronic pain can cause hypothyroidism as well, as my thyroid was apparently fine at first, then I was diagnosed with CRPS 7 years ago, but last month was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. And also diagnosed with Autoimmune retinopathy all in same month.
Thank you for asking your question. I've had CRPS for 15 yrs, following a post op infection (total ankle replacement. Currently being tested for hyperparathriodism. It's fascinating how the entire endocrine system affects various functions & syndromes.
Hey can you do a video about covid/non thyroidal illness syndrome. I thought I had subacute thyroiditis, but turns out there was actually 2 thyroid dysfunctions that occur when getting covid. I seem to have non thyroid illness syndrome based off my blood work. Both thyroid dysfunctions resolve and most definitely are not permanent but I wanted to know if you can explain what the differences are between those 2 while mainly focusing on non thyroidal illness syndrome. Like recovery time etc.
@@drwestinchilds thank you so much for taking the time to write a personable reply! Do you have any videos on how to heal your thyroid so you can get off of medicine?
I have a retinal vein occlusion and my thyroid seems central hypothyroidism. Doctors in Germany don't care!! My t4 is low and my tsh is low but in range.
I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome & been through huge stress plus grief, then a hysterectomy and last 4 months I’m weak , dizzy , low BP low blood sugar , low body temp & Terrible headaches, joint pain & neuropathy inspite of HRT I believe it’s T3 as Gp said my thyroid is ok . I’m actually desperate I have no life anymore, I even have gritty eyes ! My saliva test was low saliva in mornings
Have you ever seen hypothyroidism linked to sciatica? Had severe sciatic pain for almost a year and it literally vanished within 2 days of starting a T3 medication, and flared back up again when I reduced the dose. My endocrinologist insisted the two things were unrelated, lol
Ok.... most of your videos are helpful. And w/severe fibro for 23 years & disabled. I can tell u I think your borderline quackery to suggest a severe fibro would benefit from strenuous exercise, a chiropractor & thyroid management. Throw in a massager. After 23 years, I've tried most alternatives, especially what you're suggesting. EACH time over "YEARS", it put me in bed suffering for 3 days! I've been to chiropractors, my tsh is managed w/armour thyroid meds, (my choice), & wore out a few massagers! I'm still w/severe pain & disabilities. Please, some things u need to walk in a man's suffering before u suggest this is the answer because your not the one that has to suffer your buddies' suggestion. Currently, trying a keto/paleo =payleto nutrition. Using thyroid herbs, small amt berries & banana for flavor along w/vitamins connected to thyroid support, adrenal fatigue, cortisol & following a pretty strict system. I've lost alot of weight quickly which I probably didn't need to lose but it's not severe loss yet. 215lb to 196lb in 3 weeks. Just saying, ain't working doc! Makes it 100% disabled! Major suffering.
If this was the answer for fibromyalgia and chronic pain you would have a line over 10 miles long everyday for years for this treatment. You would not need to sell books. You don't really know what you talking about. I've tried all this. It doesn't work. Its just a waste of time and money. Its delusional to say these "theories" work and it beyond insulting to hear you say that its treatable a curable thing. You don't know that. No one knows that. I'm tired of how people in healthcare can confidentially say such things with no proof. You certainly don't understand chronic pain. This is just click bait garbage to sell a book. You might as well tell people its ghosts.
I don't sell a book so I'm not sure where you are getting that? Also, I have used this on many people with chronic pain and it has worked. It doesn't work 100% of the time, however.
I've always said fibromyalgia is a symptom, Not the root cause of the problem. The root cause of my fibromyalgia was hypothyroidism and then later my fibromyalgia pain came back because my hormones tanked ... once I got on bio-identical hormones, the fibromyalgia pain went away. So many people, especially women, suffer so bad because most doctors don't care to treat Thyroid & Hormonal issues. Thank you for your videos!🙂
Hallo! How long did it takes to you to feel better?..i’m referring to pain.
Ime suffering 6 years chronic muscle pain even though my father had CFS from thyroid that took 12 years for his thyroid to go off I want a reverse T3 Dr doesn't no.crazy sure they live to see us suffer brilliant you got well
@@tizianasanti371 ... the fibromyalgia pain went away almost immediately, once getting on thyroid meds & replacing my hormones.
@@Truerealism747... I'm a lot better, but I'm not 100% yet. I pray I do recover a 100% ... not sure I will, seeing that I got neglected and ignored for so long with thyroid & hormones, it did cause some "damage" to my body unfortunately.
@@Gigi-kr6ek what has it caused damage to you I believe I am to ime awaiting to go on ldn ldn heals they are terrible checking for thyroid my father had CFS was thyroid I have fybro symptoms but no reverse T3 been done huh
Dr. Child’s is such a blessing. Thanks to him I found a functional medicine doctor in my area via a compounding pharmacy. The only doctor in the last ten years to take me seriously and treat my thyroid problem. After 7 months on Cytomel and weight lifting I got to such an amazing pain free point in my life. Push through the fatigue and pain, I figured I might as well improve my muscle tone and performance if I was going to be in pain either way.
Next step is to find a myofacia therapist for long term maintenance of my new found freedom.
I am 33. Dealt with chronic upper back pain and neck pain since I was 26 and got progressively worst. A physician who also does hormonal work, told me that my hypothyroidism was maltreated even though my THC was in the correct range. He prescribed me medication for T3 and after 2 months my pain is gone. My pain was so bad that I could barely sit for more than 5 minutes. I still have some pain in the neck but it’s a complete different pain and way more manageable. It’s likely related to weakness and loss of cervical curvature which I’m working on resolving through stretching and strength training. But I’m so glad my doctor point to this issue with hypothyroidism. It’s been life changing.
Whats the name of the medicine?
I had a crisis of pain in my back, my joints and my shoulders and a severe fatigue. I though I had either lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. All blood tests came out negative for lupus and arthritis but my tsh level was very high. The crisis lasted for a few months and stopped once I took the correct amount of thyroid hormones. Thank you doctor for such a valuable information.
Wow! Your comment really encourages me. I have been so afraid the past six weeks that I have arthritis but I have very low thyroid I just found out and my hormones are all off. Are you healing well now? Do you have to stay on the medicine for thyroid for life?
Same thing just happened to me. I was underdosed on T3. I had severe trigger points and frozen shoulder. I increased my T3 and now it is resolving.
You may need T3. The question is what is causing your T3 not to get into your cells if that is the problem. It could be reactivated Epstein Barr or something to do with your deoidinase enzymes. It could be problems in the GI. So, yes, you can try to fix the underlying problem while taking thyroid hormones (NDT or T3) and eventually decrease the dose. Dr. Child's wife was able to decrease her medication from treating her underlying issues. Please see a functional medicine doctor. @@-living4jesus4ever-
(1.) "5:36" -- the need for T3 medication. At "6:02" some particular ones are named, e.g. Liothyronine, Cytomel, etc. At "6:37" dosing is mentioned. 20 to 25 mcg (equivalent to two to three grains of, say, Armour Thyroid) of T3 recommended by Dr. Childs ("6:50").
(2.) "7:25" -- the need for exercising the affected muscles to the point tolerable.
(3.) "8:38" -- the need for muscle-based therapy, e.g. deep manual massaging, etc. Another option is "trigger-point injection therapy" ("10:03").
Thank you for this information. Wasn't getting it from my doc. They don't want to take the time you did to explain in an office visit.
Thank you so much for this information! I have suffered for decades with fibromyalgia! New to your channel and so happy I found you.
Are you any better
THAT must bewhy my lower back pain went away after I started taking Armour. Thank you Dr. Childs!
Did you have to take anything for your adrenals
Can hyperthyroidism also cause pain?stiffness, tremors and sore muscles?
I have muscle knots all over. The doctor just told me that I likely have fibromyalgia call me and told me to do massage therapy to help. It hurts really bad, so I quit going. Thank you for posting this, it makes so much sense!
I have this too!
Have you been tested
This explains the leg cramps I had when my levels were all up n down
That may caused by lack of Ca, Mg ,K or Na…..Losing minerals is another trait of hypothyroidism…. You may try to take some supplements.
Hi can you tell me more please. I do suffered too. Is it because of thyroid?? I have legs pain often come up if I stop thyroid medications for long time.
@@hdhnbggh8312how come you stop thyroid medication? You have to take this medicine for the rest of your life.
I feel you on the muscles contacting and not relaxing. My spine spasmed for like 3 weeks and would not relax. The pain was so unbearable I think I have PTSD from it. So true.
I feel this comment so much. I cramp no matter what I do. I'm trying to see if I have hypothyroidism at the moment. I had to go to the ER and doctor so many times for my cramps.....it's insane and terrifying....I'm an ex national gymnast and can endure a lot of pain but this level of cramping is unbearable.
@@gem3639 me two ime going on ldn as Dr doesn't understand reverse t3
@@gem3639 have you found the problem
Thanks again for another excellent content filled video. It verifies what I have thought for months - that this medication and exercise/physical modalities combination is improving my QOL tremendously by considering multiple inflammatory conditions from an holistic approach. I have the triple whammy of hashi's, significant degenerative osteoarthritis (mainly spine), and psoriatic arthritis. The PSA diagnosis came on in the last 4 years and when it did, my thyroid labs started varying like a roller coaster, and my fatigue and aches got out of control. Medication for the PSA helped, but it was when my awesome PC (who treats my thyroid similar to your approach) switched my thyroid treatment to an SR T3 as primary, with a smaller dose of t4 (tirosint), and added anti-inflammatory supplements, that I started to feel 'in remission'. Its been about 10 months since we made that switch and the overall muscle tension that I've struggled with for years, improved dramatically. I've also become extremely diligent with my diet, and now am able to exercise up to 5 days a week. In fact, time to go get ready for the pool, followed by the hot tub and then some time in the IR sauna.
It can feel like a full time job to keep these symptoms in check - but its well worth it. I can say that following your content and trying your suggestions makes this all possible. I wouldn't know even a sliver of what to do without what you've shared over the years. It absolutely makes a difference - thank you! :)
Glad it's helping!
Are you pain free now wonderful
I've been through this exact situation and took T3 and it really helped me great deal. I wish I've known this long time ago. I was sick of the pain and fatigue . I did the three steps you mentioned in the video and the symptoms are lighter than before. Love from Egypt 🇪🇬. I'm a great fan.
Hi Enas,
أنا من مصر برضو وشيلت الغده من كام شهر ولسه جسمي تعبان جداً وعضلاتي تعبانه وباخد التروكسين ١٥٠ ثلات مرات في الاسبوع وباقي الاسبوع باخد ٢٠٠ وباخد كالسيوم وفيتامين دي ولسه وفات وقت شهور ولسه برضو عضلاتي وجسمي تاعبني فا ياريت تقوليلي انتي اخدتي T3 لوحده؟؟ والا عملتي ايه بالظبط وشكراً جدا♥️🙏🏻
@@nourradwan2777 السلام عليكم
انا دوخت لغاية م لاقيت T3 فى مصر بس هو مش موجود في الصيدليات. انا جبته من مصدر بيجيب ل ناس بتتدرب كمال اجسام فى الجيم لأنهم بيحتاجوه. و ممكن حد يجيبهولك من برة مصر. و كنت بسحب الدواء بالتدريج. يعنى يوم اخد T3 و يوم اخد التروكسين لمد تلات اسابيع و بعد كده بقيت اخد T3 كل يوم لوحده. بس لازم تعمل تحليل بعد م تمشى عليه لوحده بعد تلات اسابيع علشان تشوف نسبة ال Tsh . كل قرص ,25 من T3 يساوى 50 من الالتروكسين.كمان لازم تعرفى أن T3 بيقلل رقم ال ,TSH جدآ يعنى ممكن تحتاجى أقل من 75 من ال t3 . ضرورى ضرورى تخلى بالك أنه لازم تبدأ بجرعة صغيرة من الT3 مش اكتر من 25 لمدة أسبوعين مثلا وبعد كده تزودى T3 و تقللى من الالتروكسين لانه بيزود ضربات القلب جدا و فى الاول هتبقى مزعجة ليكى و متشربيش قهوة أو شاى إلا بعد ساعتين تلاته من وقت الدواء علشان ضربات القلب و الضغط. انت شيلتى الغدة يعنى وضعك غيرى. و لازم تحليل ليكى كل تلات اسابيع علشان تعرفى التغير فى الدواء بيعمل ايه فى ال TSH و ده مرهق ماديا و كمان ال t3 غالى جدا لانه مستورد. معلش لازم اقول لك برضو أن مفيش دكتور هيوافق أنه يتابعك و انت بتاخدى دواء مش موجود في الصيدليات. يعنى انت مع نفسك و قرار انك تاخد الدواء مسؤوليتك انت. انا اخدت القرار مع نفسي و هتحمل نتيجته مع نفسي. لو عندك مشاكل فى القلب و الضغط بلاش T3 خالص. اللى ممكن يحسن معاكى الام الجسم من دلوقتي حالا هو ممارسة الرياضة تلات مرات على الأقل فى الأسبوع و الاصرار عليه و تحمل الألم . انا عارفه أنه صعب و انا اتألمت كتير بس اصريت اكمل و كل مرة الألم بيقل. كنت مش بكمل خمس دقائق مشى حتى. ربنا معاكي. 🙏
@@nourradwan2777
انا نسيت اقولك أن ممكن تاخدى الالتركسين مع T3 و هتحسى بفرق و تحسن ملحوظ فى حالتك بردو . و ده مع رياضة أساسى. علشان الاستفادة من فوائد ال T3 و تجنب أضراره . يعنى تاخدى T3 25و تكملى الجرعة اليومية ب التروكسين. انا ابتديت بالمشى البسيط و بعد كده اشتركت فى الجيم و شيلت أحمال بسيطة.
@@enasfathy2174 شكراً جدا جدا يا إيناس ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@@nourradwan2777
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I love this channel, I suffer from Graves’ disease and have all kinds of symptoms including pain and fatigue. I will really appreciate more info about that type of thyroid problems since hypothyroidism is the most mentioned and not much of hyperthyroidism info is out there
same here
Have you had a chronic Lyme disease test? IGenex is the best for that.
I have Graves and chronic pain too. Doctors didn't tell me there's a connection, but I think there is? How did you get on?
@@adelinekeys6582 look into chronic Lyme disease
I been taking a natural approach with lemon balm, magnesium, vitamins, black seed oil capsules and other herbs and my symptoms have subsided . I could stop medicating and my TSH is now stable thank God. Hope this helps
How often to 'massage'?
Thank you for this information! I finally understand my symptoms ‼️
I had fibromyalgia for 17 yrs. At the time I had thyroid problems but didn't find out till many years later. I took D Ribose 5gm 3x day. On the 3rd day (!) I began feeling a change. In less than 9 mos I was pain free. Last yr I had my thyroid removed and have pain again that comes and goes. Am thinking about adding D Ribose again.
Thank you doctor, since my thyroidectomy I have a chronic knot in my shoulder that extends to my head, my husband massages my as you explained using some types of oils, they are very useful 👍
Me too in both my shoulders that runs up my neck.
@@gingerquinlan7953inesmmovednfrom tightness in thyroid 2 years to horrendous pain in collerbone two years now it's shoulders armpit s are you any bettr
what about taking higher dose Iodine?
Oh my goodness! You don’t know how happy I am for this information. Before I was Dx with hypothyroid/Hashimotos I had chronic right hip pain. Once I got on Levo the pain went away. A year ago until currently I have pain in my left hip (feels like how the right hip felt) and in my right foot mostly. It feels like planter fasciitis kind of, but more like a cramp if your low on magnesium. I take magnesium everyday and have been on keto for 3 years. I didn’t get these symptoms until after I was sick with “Rona”. I had it once like this before after I had my baby, until my medication was adjusted at postpartum. I switched to taking armour and liothyronine. I still have the pain in my foot and hip. But my reverse t3 started at 20 and now it’s down to 11, but my free t3 is still low. I am going to see if I can go from 10 mcg to 20 of the liothyronine 🤞 and hopefully that will help. I do planter fasciitis Stretches and exercises but it doesn’t help. I just want to be able to move again 😭 without pain.
I also have chronic hip pain 😕
@@CinRacing before I knew I had a thyroid problem I did weight watchers and worked out at the gym. I started getting hip pain. I went in and saw a D.O. Doctor and a physical therapist. I did stretches and all kinds of things. I was even told my hip was turned a little. When I became pregnant, My TSH was slightly elevated and then they tested for Hashimotos. It came back with high antibodies. A few months before the diagnosis I was starting to get foot pain as well. Once diagnosed I was put on a low dose of Levothyroxine. Within a week the foot pain and hip pain went away. I felt amazing. When I went into postpartum I had no hip pain but painful foot pain in both feet and it hurt to walk down the stairs. After my labs were checked and they adjusted meds, the pain went away.
Fast forward to getting Corona. Once I was done being sick, it left me with left hip pain (same feeling as I’ve had before) and foot pain (almost like it’s the Calcaneus bone) I’ve tried taking Iodine (as I’ve heard someone else say they did that and it worked) but here I am a year later still in pain. I was living off of ibuprofen for awhile because as the day goes on the harder it is to walk. I have learned that trying to heal the gut (Leaky gut- which I never thought I had) can help. I’ve never had issues with food bothering me. I have given up gluten and my Hashimotos antibodies are doing down. I started taking L Glutamine. To help heal the stomach lining from all the ibuprofen (which can cause leaky gut) leaky gut can make it harder to absorb things. I just had labs drawn and I am low in ferritin (I wasn’t before) and Vitamin D. I hoping this will help with thyroid medicine absorption as well.
Did it work
@@Truerealism747 I still get the pain off and on. It seems to be due to inflammation. It recently just started to go away. I wish I knew what the triggers were. Taking armour and liothyronine (now 25) seems to help someone with feeling tired. I’ve added in turmeric. My thyroids levels (TSH, free t3, free t4 and reverse t3) are pretty optimal. So I can only think this is a Hashimotos flair. I have no idea how to get rid of the pain as it starts to come on. I do take doctor childs omega 3 🤷♀️
@@ajatracy1299 do you have hypomobility by any chance this is the link can't get my Dr to do anything but my TSH? Even though my father CFS was his thyroid and took years to come off scale he now ok.
I've ordered t3 T4 reverse t3 TSH 2.5 but waste if time what drs run that is any other test?
Been on levothyroxine for years and my TSH keep going up and up. Now at 56, not .56 and I'm on .325 mcg of levo. Recently lost 40 lbs low carb, have up all sugar and processed foods. Have zero hypothyroid symptoms. I am so confused. My hands and feet always hot , not cold. A little thinning hair but not severe. I did have some muscle pain prior to losing weight. Feel 20 yrs younger. How do I get T3 med??
I'm on 112 t4 tirosint and 10 t3 cytomel. Lots of upper body muscle pain daily. How much t3 can be taken at one time? I take my 10 t3 in the morning even tho my dr recommended 5 twice a day. No thyroid. When I push myself in exercise my energy tanks for days.
Can you give me the name of a doctor I can get help from online? I know I am hypothyroid but my TSH is normal and so are other thyroid tests. My mother was hypothyroid all her life. I am even having problems absorbing vitamins and minerals etc. because of low T3. I cannot sleep and am up all night with pain. I hope you read this and can help me. Thank you.
I had a hyperthyroidism episode recently and while it was scary (the anxiety and so on) I finally felt so relieved not to have the everyday body pain everywhere every minute and not being so awfully fatigued all the time and my metabolism wow i could eat and didn't feel the everyday slow digestion and bloating all over from face to feet. Now back to everything again...as the pain has come back and yes massages do help but sometimes they escalated the body pain even more for hours after the massage . You are definately right about the excersise part ....as hard as it is getting going when your entire body hurts day and night and lack of energy: when I did do a month of fitness I felt much much better in terms of body pain (energy not so much😅). T4 medication did make me have more energy which I liked but the side effects were too much for me I lost like 2/3 of my hair in just a few weeks so no thank you never again will I be taking T4.
My son has this problem. He had his thyroid removed. And after that he has had the chronic pain and fatigue. The endocrinologist he has seen goes by the book and does not want to give t3 in any meaningful way. My question is how do you find a doctor that has an open mind.
Hi, I live in Amsterdam. I have a horrible pain at the begging of my legs which does not go away for 8 months already. Doctors in here only prescribe for Hashimoto's Levothyroxine. I can not get by myself T3 medication. What you would suggest to me since to reduce the extremely huge pain ?
Dr Sarah myhill sells it uk
Can you be my doctor? How do I get an appointment?
What your saying makes sense….pushing your muscles to the limit reminds me of the same response that using microneedling on your face does it to release collegen and elastin to stimulate regeneration.
I just saw my endocrinologist and all my level are perfect he said. I’m on .1 mg of synthroid. When I asked him about my chronic muscle aches and whether it was related. He asked if it was weakness? I said well I limp a lot because my leg muscles keep locking up and my upper back spasming. I told him the only thing that helps is when I soak in Epsom salts. He laughed and it only works if you take it eternally. So he put me on 250 mg PO magnesium and 2000 IU vitamin D. I wish I knew about taking T3.
The dose of vitamin D he put you on, is a joke! 2000ui a day a enough for baby NOT for adult, you need minimum 10,000ui a day to help bring levels up,look into B1 deficiency it also can cause a lot of muscle aches,also for B1 to work effectively you must take more maguinesium if you deficient in maguinesium You need higher doses to make B1 more absorbable.
You're really awesome. Greetings from Egypt,🇪🇬
Thank you for this information ! Could you spell the name of the doctor who works on this subject ?
Cupping therapy worked great for me To help get the knots out. I did not hurt as bad
Just giving some of what I have experienced here: I have Chronic Lyme dissease. I am on T3 Lyothyronine 55mcg. I take at 25mg 6:30 am and 30mcg 3:30 pm. I have the pain you describe all the time. It gets worse at night. I am wondering if this is due to the T3 being so short acting and it has worn off by early evening. Past 2 months I have been doing deep tissue Eastern Massage 2x a week for 90 min. It gets expensive so I cut back to 1x a week and I've been back to far more pain vs going 2x a week. The language barrier is tough to communicate but her technique is exactly as you describe and without even voicing what is hurting the most without fail she finds it and ends up working on that area longer. I am always knotted up everywhere. Massage is always painful. I also lift 5x a week and push myself and have for 10+ years....I just assumed I was always knotted up so horrifically due to lifting. I can say without doubt that these intense massages have greatly helped. The issue is it's tough spending $1k a month on massages. I have massage guns as well but they can't go deep or hard enough compared to getting a massage.
Dr. Child, I had a consult with you a couple years ago and you gave me some ideas to investigate, including Lyme. I wanted to share a recent therapy I tried that GREATLY helped my chronic EBV flair ups. I did a 5 day treatment of Thymosin Alpha 1 in Sept. I always get sick when I travel and always see to get a EBV flair up in Oct (typically get 3 to 4 a year). I just recently traveled on a very physically taxing vacation. I did not get sick nor did I even feel slightly immune compromised after vacation. I've never experienced this. Did the Thymosin help, was it all the massages that have helped, I'm not sure only time will tell. But so far it seems the Thymosin Alpha 1 may have regulated my immune system much better. Wish I would have tried this very inexpensive therapy much much sooner. Not sure if you are familiar with that but would love some videos on Peptide therapy.
Hi Jason, glad to hear you are doing better! I'll add the peptides to the list of future topics.
Hi Jason, I just read your comment. I have hypothyroidism and have been taking about 86 mcg of T3. I recently started having debilitating symptoms including severe pain from trigger points in my upper left back and shoulder area which led to frozen shoulder. Finally, I decided to increase my last dose of T3 and my symptoms are resolving. I read that many need to increase their T3 dose in the winter months because of the temperature. Good luck to you.
I have tendon pain in my forearms, front thighs and foot arches. Found out I was hypo and pain had decreased on Levothyroxine, but I just switched to NP thyroid and I feel less fatigue but more pain in my forearms and feet. Very very tight muscles . Does this mean I shouldn’t be on T3? Doctor doesn’t think I need to increase dosage
So it’s like scar tissue?
Well my thyroid in width love to live is over 6 cm but it doesn't stick out any advise
Dr Childs you are incredibly knowledgable and you have helped many people Im sure. I almost cant make myself listen to you though, because you talk SOOOOOOOOOOO FAST! Its distracting and annoying to me. I cant be the only person who has ever mentioned this. Please slow your talking/presentation down. Thanks! I so appreciate your information.
I’m wondering if soaking in a hot tub works as well as infrared sauna?
Thank you so much Dr. Childs for this information. I need a shove to start regularly exercising. Got dxd with Hashi thyroiditis by a regular GP a couple of months ago. Now I need a functional medical doctor, as my GP is not aware of all the info in treating this dx. I live in a rural area, and there's only one functional doctor, and she can't see me until the end of next March!
I got my test. I do not have enough t3 hormone. T4 and TSH are in upper 50%. Can this be cured by figuring out vitamin/mineral deficincie or I need medicine.
Possibly, it depends on the underlying cause.
Have a case where I injured my wrist and I felt like it should have been something that I could recover from in a few days it’s been almost a month and I’m still dealing with pain. I have Hashimotos and still in process of getting my TSH to optimal range. will pain go away if can control my TSH?
I wonder if these patients also have EBV?
That triggered my father's CFS but not mine after a fall
My TSH 2.5 I no my pains my thyroid my father had CFS was thyroid but GP still doesn't listen si doing a full panel.mtself
Hi, I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I was wondering if pain in feet and hands with painful stiffness is part of hypothyroidism.
It can be.
I have graves disease and chronic pain especially in my legs,. Is there a connection between hyperthyroidism and pain?
Thell me more? I do have chronic legs pain sometimes is more noticeable sometimes it is not.
@@hdhnbggh8312 yes I think the cause is dehydration low magnesium and low salt levels.
My muscle pain started in my thyroid drs didn't no or care terrible is it common muscles in armpits blades wherever tension is cracks and pops
What brand/make of therapy gun is that? I ask, because it is so quiet compared to others out in the market. I need to purchase one soon.
The one that I showed in this video is not the one I normally use, I have a couple including a professional version. Ideally, you'd want to find one that vibrates at the ideal frequency and that is different for each individual.
After a De Quervain Thyroiditis I became permanent hypothyroid (it happened 4 years ago, I couldnt even swallow for a month and a half). How ofter does this happen? It is not mentioned as a possible cause in the videos. Should I be concerned?
Hello Dr. I'm having hyperthyroidism since 2014 with tsh level about 0.001 but ft4 normal. I'm taking neo mercazole and calcite 600 and vitamin D injections after every 6 months but always tsh low level is not increasing. Dr. Says it hyperthyroid and graves disease. What should i do to increase my tsh level and how can i escape from this disease? Please help me to get out of this problem.please reply
Recently i was diagnose with myofascial pain syndrome my neck is always tight, and i feel the adhesion on my muscle when im moving....i had hypothroidism before its been a while i didnt ask my doctor to check my t3 and t4 maybe this is reason why my muscle stiffness and tension doesnt away..
I have hyper mobility type ehlers danlos syndrome and have found that when my free T3 falls in to “normal ranges“ my joint pain increases because my muscles are more fatigued. It feels almost like I am going through opioid withdrawal.
I take tirosint and cytomel. The t4 helps with my sleepiness/fatigue and cytomel helps with everything else. I have tried to take just t4 and just t3 but onto the combo works for me. Due to malabsorption from PAN ulcerative colitis, I have to take high dose of both hormones and keep my levels higher than normal to feel like a functional human being.
I have heds to and fybromyalgia my thyroid is TSH 2.5 now cholesterol rising maybe I will get meds now
I have the extreme version of hyperthyroidism and i am constant pain muscle wise, and i lack so much tissue and muscle its absurd, that’s interesting and I didn’t know fibromyalgia is linked to hyperthyroidism that explains the constant nonstop pain everyday.
I believe also that mitochondria / hypothyroid has a lot to do with our pain. Ask me how I know.
Dr Sarah myhill
Thank you!
I’ve been having fluctuating hypo/hyper thyroid symptoms. I was diagnosed with subacute thyroiditis after my bloods came back normal but I insisted due to hoarse voice, swallowing difficulty, fatigue, hair loss and other symptoms that there has to be something wrong so I got an ultrasound and I had inflammation in my thyroid. It did go away for a couple of months but it’s recurred and I’m in so much pain all over right now. My doctors aren’t taking it seriously. They’re just saying to take ibuprofen and it’ll go away but that’s not helping. I’m severely underemployed and exhausted and stuck.
I don’t think it viral thyroiditis. My grandmother has Hashimoto’s and her father died of a thyrotoxic crisis resulting in cardiac arrest. I know it’s rare but I think I have serum negative Hashimoto’s and the hyper symptoms are happening when the thyroid cells are being destroyed releasing too much thyroid hormone then going through phases of hypo that aren’t being picked up because bloods aren’t monitored frequently enough or something. Idk why I feel so awful but everything looks “normal” on tests apart from the ultrasound. I also don’t know how to get help because functional medicine is so expensive and because I’ve been so sick I just can’t afford it.
t4 and t3 medication cause inflamation, that is hs crp to go very high like 3.7, when i gave up the medication for a week, which i could my hs crp came to 0.9, please make a vedio on your clinical experience regarding this
I used to take Tylenol 3 with codeine that my ENT gave me when had my thyroid removed until I ran out of them and phone my family doctor to refill the prescription. He would refill for some stupid reason. I don’t think that was right for him to say that. That would be my ENT to determine whether he would give me the prescription or not.
I wonder if chronic pain can cause hypothyroidism as well, as my thyroid was apparently fine at first, then I was diagnosed with CRPS 7 years ago, but last month was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. And also diagnosed with Autoimmune retinopathy all in same month.
It's possible that chronic pain could cause thyroid problems.
@@drwestinchilds Thanks Doc, much appreciated for your time and help, it's greatly appreciated.
Thank you for asking your question. I've had CRPS for 15 yrs, following a post op infection (total ankle replacement. Currently being tested for hyperparathriodism. It's fascinating how the entire endocrine system affects various functions & syndromes.
@@drwestinchildscan it be reveresed
Thank you..
Hey can you do a video about covid/non thyroidal illness syndrome. I thought I had subacute thyroiditis, but turns out there was actually 2 thyroid dysfunctions that occur when getting covid. I seem to have non thyroid illness syndrome based off my blood work. Both thyroid dysfunctions resolve and most definitely are not permanent but I wanted to know if you can explain what the differences are between those 2 while mainly focusing on non thyroidal illness syndrome. Like recovery time etc.
How do you know if it’s arthritis or from the thyroid imbalance?
It gets better when treating your thyroid.
@@drwestinchilds thank you so much for taking the time to write a personable reply! Do you have any videos on how to heal your thyroid so you can get off of medicine?
@@drwestinchilds I found out I actually have chronic Lyme disease. What a revelation!
I have a retinal vein occlusion and my thyroid seems central hypothyroidism. Doctors in Germany don't care!! My t4 is low and my tsh is low but in range.
I don't hurt when walking.
I apply progesterone cream at those areas and the pain goes away
Ime in ldn but it's flaring it 3 weeks in
And myofacial pain IE lack of energy
My TSH 2.5 you mention 1.5
I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome & been through huge stress plus grief, then a hysterectomy and last 4 months I’m weak , dizzy , low BP low blood sugar , low body temp & Terrible headaches, joint pain & neuropathy inspite of HRT I believe it’s T3 as Gp said my thyroid is ok . I’m actually desperate I have no life anymore, I even have gritty eyes ! My saliva test was low saliva in mornings
Like a lorry needs air to let off the brakes
Have you ever seen hypothyroidism linked to sciatica? Had severe sciatic pain for almost a year and it literally vanished within 2 days of starting a T3 medication, and flared back up again when I reduced the dose. My endocrinologist insisted the two things were unrelated, lol
I can't really think of a way that hypothyroidism would cause sciatica directly.
@@drwestinchildsswelling and edema in the nerves that get impinged.
Ok.... most of your videos are helpful. And w/severe fibro for 23 years & disabled.
I can tell u I think your borderline quackery to suggest a severe fibro would benefit from strenuous exercise, a chiropractor & thyroid management. Throw in a massager. After 23 years, I've tried most alternatives, especially what you're suggesting. EACH time over "YEARS", it put me in bed suffering for 3 days! I've been to chiropractors, my tsh is managed w/armour thyroid meds, (my choice), & wore out a few massagers! I'm still w/severe pain & disabilities. Please, some things u need to walk in a man's suffering before u suggest this is the answer because your not the one that has to suffer your buddies' suggestion.
Currently, trying a keto/paleo =payleto nutrition. Using thyroid herbs, small amt berries & banana for flavor along w/vitamins connected to thyroid support, adrenal fatigue, cortisol & following a pretty strict system. I've lost alot of weight quickly which I probably didn't need to lose but it's not severe loss yet. 215lb to 196lb in 3 weeks. Just saying, ain't working doc! Makes it 100% disabled! Major suffering.
Interesting....you totally wrecked this video by talking so damned fast ppfftt
If this was the answer for fibromyalgia and chronic pain you would have a line over 10 miles long everyday for years for this treatment. You would not need to sell books. You don't really know what you talking about. I've tried all this. It doesn't work. Its just a waste of time and money. Its delusional to say these "theories" work and it beyond insulting to hear you say that its treatable a curable thing. You don't know that. No one knows that. I'm tired of how people in healthcare can confidentially say such things with no proof. You certainly don't understand chronic pain. This is just click bait garbage to sell a book. You might as well tell people its ghosts.
I don't sell a book so I'm not sure where you are getting that? Also, I have used this on many people with chronic pain and it has worked. It doesn't work 100% of the time, however.
@@drwestinchilds lol.