Pioneer DDJ-1000SRT: 7 Things You NEED To Know BEFORE Buying This Serato DJ Controller
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
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The new Pioneer DJ DDJ-1000SRT for Serato is a controller many people have been waiting a LONG time for (and many more thought would never happen). It has the pro DJ booth look and feel, including full-sized CDJ-style jogwheels and a DJM-900 style mixer, but under the skin, it's a controller for Serato DJ software.
But before you say "game, set and match" and get your wallet out, it is worth scratching a bit deeper than the surface. We talk about seven things you need to know before plunking down a wad of cash for this beefy controller.
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best review yet thanks for pointing out pros and cons, most reviews showing us features we are all familiar with already
Thanks Dannyspeillberg.
Beat jump length can be displayd on laptop screen. Just check the beat jump controll in SERATO setings. Also if you enable hw remaping for 1000 srt in SERATO, you can customize the 2× /2 loop controlls to your prefered style.
Yes, an oversight on my part re beatjump - not sure how easy it would be to remap the loop [controls with the modifier key? Haven't tried - will when I get time.
@@digitaldjtips for me the main drawback of the loop section is that it is not effected by quantize.
Do you guys think that is possible to remap the loop length to the beat jump buttons?
@@luisjavier4813 Yes. Just enable hw remaping in Serato and you should be able to customize almost everthing that is Serato-related. If the button is MIDI its yours to remap.
It works great for me! I like it. Your Cons you mention, I wasn't worried about and they can be worked around. Your Pros you mention, I like a lot as well! Great mixer!
Thanks for watching, glad it helped :)
After upgrading to an xdjrx, I never looked back at my controller even though I loved Serato, I suggest every aspiring pro dj do the same
Thanks for your review and pointing some Important points!
You're welcome!
Appreciate the attention to detail! Great review.
You're welcome!
Thanks for the video, for bringing out the real story
Thank you for bringing the hype down a bit - that was needed!
Thanks Klaus. Just wanted to make the point that it is going to be a great buy for SOME people, but not ALL - don't like seeing our audience buying and wishing they'd known some of these things earlier! :)
Thanks Phil! I was excited and ready to invest in this controller. But something said wait for more reviews.
@@digitaldjtips that's a professional way of putting it
Agreed
@@digitaldjtips I hate to say this but I actually returned my reloop turntables and picked up a DDJ-1000SRT for myself. I have to say this thing freakin' rocks! I feel almost guilty because it's so easy to mix and everything I need is right there, not to mention the convenience of carrying it around as opposed to lugging 2x heavy turntables, a mixer, and various cables. I thought this would be one glorified big toy but I'm telling everyone to get one, I love it!!
This review and the explanation of the fx controls definitely pointed me to an SX3. Thanks
Hope you can find one!
@@digitaldjtips I have found a few. They're discontinued new but I'll make sure I get a warranty on it. I can't find anything newer that mirrors the SX3 in that price range
Thanks for the review, @Digital DJ Tips! Very nicely done! Little remark: You can see the Beat Jump amount, if you enable it in the settings: "Show Beat Jump Controls"
Yeah true, my mistake :)
@@digitaldjtips No worries, this can happen in the heat. Keep it up!
Thanks for your understanding Wito! :)
Thanks for the useful tips Phil!
You're welcome Péter.
Thank you for the heads up Phil 👍
You're welcome Carlos.
Same here I’m glad I saw this. Good info to be honest
Great review thanks! Im using DDJ-SX2 for 3 years now and I can see it does everything what this controller can do but the jog wheels and the mixer sure feels better and the effects on the hardware is much better than Serato effects but if I upgrade I would go for the 1000 rekordbox otherwise I just keep my SX2 for another year and see what happens
Benefit of your SX2 is that you can use Serato AND Rekordbox with it.
Thanks for the review!
You're welcome Rashod.
Excellent video, this makes me want to stick to getting the SZ2.
Better buy turntables or CD players with time code these digital devises will become useless in a few years I bought the ddj-sz 5 yrs ago I got all kinds of bugs after it became a LEGACY DEVISE
Hi Phil, great video. I wanted to address your issue with beat jump. If you go into the settings and then under the DJ Preferences / Control Preferences there is an option you have to check to "show beat jump controls" then you will see you beat jump selected parameters underneath the loop section in your software
Yes! That was what I was looking for. Now next question - do they show on the display along with the other loop info? I hope they do - can't wait to check! Thanks Nick.
Hi Phil pretty sure there’s a checkbox in Serato settings to show beat jump controls on the display in Serato , great video , I’m a Serato user recently got the RB version which has better functionality for your buck, may consider picking one up in the secondhand/b stock market
That's cool Jason - this community is the best! Wonder if that will then show on the in-jog display as well?
the beat jump size will show up on the screen if you change the settings in serato
Great review!!! Thank you ...
You're welcome Andre. Had it helped you to decide?
Best review so far..👍🏻
Thanks Aldoadk.
Thank u so much phil, real useful
You're welcome Shunqi.
Thanks a lot, bro!
This set up is meant to give an idea of what the workflow is like using Pioneer CDJ2000NXSS and a DJM 900NXS (with HID and Serato DJ Pro). Most use the hardware FX on that set up and guys that require extra controls bring their DDJ-SP1 add on controller.
It brings a bit more to the table with the performance pads than using standard CDJs with Serato besides the overview waveform. It would have been nice but its not a biggie.
I’m liking it a lot, and the controller is holding its value which is something I like, May get it really soon.
Yes, it's a classic
@@digitaldjtips now I’m contemplating to get it now or wait til NAMM 2023 to see if I see something else or a newer version since it may be up for an upgrade. But the ddj-1000srt is still a beautiful controller and sooooo nicely built.
I learned alot thanks ✔️✔️
No problem!
Looks really nice and all but am sticking to my 1st love: SZ2! Prefer the layout and I have jog adjust! Add the fx control...
Atem S. me too
The only thing I like is the post crossfader effect and the jog wheel. Not worth me spending more money and dumping my SZ at all.
@@djshenks5281 SZ & SZ2 are the GOAT!!
Yeah after watching this I think about just get SZ2 and call it day. Just love that layout and size.
It has jog adjust on srt1000 whn the cdj first came out u didnt hve any of these features u had to use keyboard shortcuts so thts the whole concept of it club style before all the fancy buttons
Hi Phil! First of all thanks for the nice review, always straight to the point! Second, I got a question, is there a way to avoid changing the songs with the search buttons on the ddj 1000? I don't find it very useful as I have my dedicated knob search at the corner of each deck...
I don't think so, although you may be able to turn those off in the Midi mapping section.
For me the djm mixer it's missing the fx time parameter control. You have also highlighted some good points. I am swaying between this and the ddjsz2 for the next controller, if it was the djm100 SRT I feel I would need a midi controller for serato fx to make up for missing out on the parameter knob. If this was the case could the midi controller also be used to control the decks of another channel while the control was used for 2 to remove the need for jumping between channels on L and R decks?
Regarding beat jump… you don’t seem have beat jump viewable/enabled in your Serato DJ preferences. I was actually impressed that it still allowed you to access the feature with it visibly disabled/turned off.
Yeah, momentary lapse of reason as mentioned elsewhere in these comments. Thanks for pointing out :)
@phil Beat Jump settings are actually showing on your screen in this video. They are displayed right below the play button. you have the loop settings and right below loop settings you have the best jump settings. It’s the same with the NS7iii best jump not having any hardware indication but it does show on the software
As I said in the video I kinda knew I was wrong on that! Bit embarrassing as I teach it elsewhere :D :D
It's cool that they are. Now I need to double check if they show in the jogwheel display next to the usual loop feedback. I hope they do!
Very good review. I stick to my SZ2 Mapped to Traktor for now.
Sounds like you've already got the set-up you want Chris - awesome!
Hi there mate quick question. What if I'm using the pioneer DDJ xp2. With the 1000 srt controller. Will there be good to do
Great points Phil. Someone had to say it. I've got an SX3 and I'm definitely not changing. It's just built for the looks of Nexus Kit. Not for actual easy functionality with Serato.
Need to 'Show beat jump controls in the preferences' that will show them on the laptop screen. Also allows you to do beat jump on the Pads though.
Thanks Tim, an oversight (considering I teach this stuff - I kinda knew though didn't I?) :)
Very helpful
Thanks Christian.
Great review on this product. The only hack i would say for the 4 bar looping you was stating, pressing the shift and another button would be to buy a pair of novation dicer. Wish i never sold mine 😪
Yeah, that would work.
I remember buying the ddj 1000 as soon as it was released back in 2018
Any issues yet? My DDJ SX3 just died on me!
Finally a non bias review. Very much appreciated! I will hold on to my DDJ 1000 rekordbox 💯💯🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾
If you already have the DDJ-1000 Rekordbox, you're good I'd say.
You mind if I ask, did you migrate from Serato and what was that like for you?
@@djmyguy2101 you can use rekordbuddy if you have a Mac.. unfortunately I have a Windows laptop so that took forever. It was a bit frustrating but I was actually able to make my crates more efficient in record box. The one thing I make sure to do is I update both Serato on rekordbox with new music at the same time
@@MrInternationalSound I see. Thanks for the detailed information. I'm using ns7Iii with Serato pro and thought switching would be too much of a Hassel. I also use a Windows machine with ample memory power.
@@djmyguy2101 I would say for me personally it took a good while a couple of weeks. To get it just right but like I said you end up cleaning up your crates so much better and rekordbox. Now fair warning record box does not use recursive listing. And what that is is if you have a 2019 folder and then you have a bunch of sub crates under it and Serato you can look at the entire 2019 in rekordbox you have to go to each one individually. So that's a bit annoying. But rekordbox actually run smoother on Windows than Serato Pro in my opinion
The DDJ-SP1 will be very useful for legacy Serato effects controls when used with this controller.
Yes indeed Pri!
djay Pro by Algoriddim if i buy can work with this one controller? thank you for support
I like that laptop mount you got there. Would you mind sharing the details for it? Thank you!
Here you go: geni.us/Hm2vgMc :)
Dang. :(
Tnx for review
Hello,why is it that you can't see the vu meters anymore with the new version of serato and your master volume is locked at 12 o'clock?
Great video. Any recommendations on a serato controller that utilizes a single encoder for looping? I love the way traktor controllers loop but my love of serato out weighs a single controller function.
I can't recall one, no. This is something Traktor does particularly well.
thank you
The jog wheel displays look clean and less cluttered... that’s my taste.
Exactly! Some people prefer it this way, but the point is - it's DIFFERENT to the Rekordbox implementation.
Same here bro
I have the Roland DJ 808..... I think its one of Serato's best controllers!
So good.
Its aight. They need bigger jog wheels and a better fader.
Great review. Debating if I should stick with my SX3. Serato effects I hardly use but from the reviews I’ve seen, it seems like it’s a downgrade if I switch to a DDJ-1000SRT
Stick with your SX3 unless you have a very good reason to switch.
The "Serato FX" work on recordings on other controllers. Did I misunderstand you?
It would've been better to just allow the original 1000 to be used with Serato, even if it required a fee. I would've definitely paid for that. But there's no way I'm buying another $1200+ controller.
I got quoted $1099 on it. Hit up your online retailers for the best deal however I’m waiting to hopefully see a ddj800srt soon. I don’t need 4 ch’s. Not much out there for 2 ch controller guys and I have Technics/S9 setup. I’m so comfortable with 2 channels and love the free space. Meh😕
Makes you wonder if that would have been technically possible - or commercially (presumably a licence feel to Serato has to be paid/collected at some point).
Fair point 👏🏾
Think about it this way... Pioneer doesn't make a profit if you buy a different software to theirs. They are guaranteeing that they move units one way or the other. It's just that you have to choose which software you want to run with it. The one thing people are forgetting is that the SRT was released simply because there was a demand for a Serato version of the controller. And the increase in price is simply Pioneer incorporating licensing fees into it.
At least there's the new XDJ-XZ for those who want cross compatibility
I am a Rekordbox user so I will get the DDJ 1000 for same software.
Hey Phil, can you stack the hardware fx like you can with the serato fx? For example, I use echo and reverb on at the same time when I'm scratching live to not have the sample sounding so dry
You could if you used, say., the dub echo on the Sound Color FX and the reverb on the Beat FX.
Do you recommend using an external mixer/board (like a mackie, yamaha etc) for the DDJ 1000 SRT? For mobile gigs...
Yes, definitely handy for mobile gigs
It's in the setup page I think beat jump show or hide. Sticking with my sx2.
Are the performance pads on DDJ-1000SRT and DDJ-1000 rubber or plastic?
How about that Booth Out? It works for a monitor, but the master out effects the booth out. Why? Or maybe my unit is faulty.
thank you so much! for clear view of this gear
looping is so clunky i cant even explain how much it dissapoint me
Thanks for watching :)
I also noticed the that the memory and shift buttons are switched on the serato version vs the rekordbox version.
Good spot!
That’s the dj controller I want: the DDJ 1000srt
Just add the SP1 and you have all the control you need, and an extra set of pads for when using 4 decks.
That's true, and actually that'd make a really nice set-up.
Yeah of course, spending an extra 200 dollars is a real bonus when you already spent 1300 dollars!
@@WhySoBroke Nobody said it's cheap to be a DJ. But compared to what I have had to pay for DJ gear, music, converting from Vinyl to CD to digital over the years... $200 is what 15 pieces of 60 min Audio CD-R every other week for a year when I transferred my most important vinyl to CD in the mid 90's. ...and that was alongside buying new music :) . The only available Audio CD-burner at the time was $1500 and the time I spend... I'd take any of today's choice of gear no matter cost, no complaints, over that. Fortunately it has paid off for me over the years, but I didn't know it would back then.
Hi there, I was wondering if Serato has fixed the looping issue by removing the need to click shift while lengthening and shortening loops by now? Thanks
You can remap it yourself if you like. It isn't a "fix", more a preference - that I didn't prefer!
Nice review by the way anyway can I plug un a ACOUSTIC guitar in the mic input is it possible?
Sorry we haven't tried that, the most common way for that setup would be using an external PA mixer and connecting the controller to one channel and the Acoustic Guitar to another
@@digitaldjtips Thanks alot your the best 😊
I ended up going with the DDJ 800 because it fits my budget
Fair enough! Nice controller.
You mentioned how the Beat Jump buttons replace the search button on the DDJ 1000. Is it possible then on the SRT to search quickly through the track without having to use the screen in Serato?
Don't have one set up to check right now, but have you tried holding down shift and turning the jogwheel? A pure guess without checking!
Hey, Phil. As far as the lack of “loop button/ knob”, how about midi mapping the song select knob on each deck? I personally never use that knob/ button to select songs. I always use my keyboard. I would midi map those to become an auto-loop knob. Just a thought.....
Not tried it - apparently the decks are mirrored in the Midi implementation and you may struggle with the modifier key. It could be a solution though!
Have you tried this?
im looking to purchase on of these or the 1000. ive only recently got back into DJing and use Virtual DJ PRO. Will that software work on this controller or is it just Serato?
Both the DDJ-1000 and the DDJ-1000SRT are supported by Virtual DJ
Will PIONEER, ever come out with moving platters ??
im sticking with my NS7iii and SERATO ALL DAYYYYYYY
If the past is anything to go by, no!
I've got the mark 2 NS7 and I agree with you
Plx1000😂😂
Yeah, Don't get me wrong, I love this SRT but I keep looking at my NS7ii saying, "Man, If only this SRT had the NS7 platters. : )
Great review , fantastic Serato DJ product from pioneer , well over due , I think these controllers are pricey in the market today
Could pioneer start looking at midi seperate units , like a deck , mixer
Bring the price down and you could have 4 decks n mixer , plus easy setup, transport ? 1 usb c port and DC and connects via chain to power each 1 link , maybe in the future ?
Well they do already, but f course the Nexus gear is meant for a different market segment entirely.
I thought you could display the beat jump distance through the settings
Yup, I KNEW you could do that, just had a blank moment. Thanks.
I'm wondering if any short comings of the DDJ 1000 SRT can be remedied with a software update?
They could if they chose to change the looping behaviour although I doubt it'd happen - I don't really think these things are necessarily shortcomings, just characteristics.
Bravo.
Thanks :)
Thanks for pointing these things out.
First of all I love the idea of those jog wheels and on board beat fx, however the distinct lack of serato controls is what I'm weighing up.
I guess the product is targeted at a sort of hybrid market of non hardcore Serato users / looking for club feel / Rekordbox deniers ?
The glaringly obvious things missing to me are hardware - Serato FX controls, Flip controls (although I have found they are sort of there), needle search, cross fader curve, cross fader feel adjust, panel view, and the pads don't seem to be velocity (like SZ2).
I also saw another review and when they brought up the Serato cross fader curve software control - I didn't see the reverse option available? So not sure about that?
You mentioned Key reset - The SX3 and the SZ2 have it too.
Oh and regarding the beat jump visibilty - there is a setting in Serato - "Show Beat Jump Controls" which I think should give you visibilty.
I guess my wishlist would've been an SZ2 with those jogs and beat fx... not asking for much hahaha
"Rekordbox deniers" - that made me smile! Honestly? I think it's targeted at all the DJs who said "make this for Serato" - let's be honest there were lots of them!
@@digitaldjtips True true
Does it not have a crossfader curve knob?
You can see how much you’re jumping using beat jump by turning on beat jump controls in the settings
Good tip :)
Hi Phil, are the main Pioneer FX synced with Serato beat grid info?
That's a good question, and I'd say no - but didn't check. We wil when we next have it set up. I think they'll sync with internally calculated BPM at a guess - may be wrong!
what if you use ddj-sp1 for serato with the ddj-1000 srt for the FX effects along with the controller or can you make a video on how that would work if you are a serato user no one has made a video demonstrating this.... thanks
That is also a hardware effects controller. You'd be better off with something like the Reloop Neon www.reloop.com/reloop-neon
Question, could you recommend please in between Rane one controller and DDJ 1000 pioneer???
Thanks
Well do you want spinning platters or not? That's a pretty big difference
Pioneer should respond to these findings
show beat jump is in software settings
Thanks for this video Phil! Being a Denon DJ fan myself, I was blown away when I saw the announcment of the DDJ-1000SRT on Serato's Instagram page. I thought it would be the perfect controller for DJs like me, using Serato HID mode in clubs. I even thought about trading in my Denon MCX8000 in order to buy this unit instead. But when I saw the price, I actually laughed! 1500€ for a DJ controller? Is this a joke Pioneer? (Especially when the Recoesbox version of the DDJ-1000 is only around 1000€). And in order to use all of Serato's features, you'd still need to add something like a DDJ-SP1 to it which is just weird (I ain't buying a 1500€ controller just to add another controller to it cause it's missing features). Finally, this video convinced me that this controller isn't for me, I'm gonna stick with my MCX8000!
P.S. I think it would have also been worth mentioning in the video, that the DDJ-1000(SRT) doesn't have Touchstrips/Needle Search. I don't get that cause the CDJ-2000s do have these! The DDJ-SP1 doesn't have those either, so you will have to learn to live without them (Ik there is beatjump but it's different from Needle Search)
True re needle search, but neither does the DDJ-1000 so no surprises there.
Holy Crap! I almost missed that touch strip feature being left off. You just bust my bubble! Really will need to re-think. Thanks
Missing Touchstrip and the fact that this thing is totally overpriced are the main reasons why this ain't for me as well. Btw: I just realised that the DDJ-1000SRT also doesn't have controls for the start and stop time which is annoying. CDJs and most other pro all-in-one controllers do have knobs for the start and stop time so why wouldn't they include these in a 1500€ controller that is meant to mirror their club setup. Thid makes it almost imposible to do slip vinyl break effects (you would need to cahnge the Stop time in the setting of the software which sucks during a set). The SP1 also doesn't have these functions so adding it won't help you there 😕🙁
You can do stop time in the Serato settings.
Hi I'm just wondering when you have the turntables connected to the ddj 1000srt will serato timecode work straight from that or will I have to get all that Rane Serato Scratch Live DVS Digital Vinyl System I been trying to find out but can't find nothing even asked a friend he has one witch I had a go on and loved it but he don't no I'm only wondering as I might be getting one myself and I might like to still jump on the timecode vinyl now and then
You'll need to pay for the upgrade to Serato DVS, but it's a software upgrade - no extra hardware required.
Are the bpm effect of the unit sinc with serato bpm like the Djm s9?
No the ddj 1000 used it's one bmp matching technique to work out the bpm on serato but it's a bit slow and not always accurate
Simple question hard answer, Whats the best updated pioneer controller to use with traktor pro 3? (mapped)
None, the jogwheels don't work well with Traktor.
In your opinion(s). Is this a better choice than the ddj SZ2? I own a SZ2 and am wondering if this is a upgrade or down grade?? What do you think?
It's not really an upgrade or a downgrade, but it sure is more practical due to the smaller size!
What about the curvature of the cross fader and other faders? Can one adjust the curve on the crossfader?
Yes but in the software so a bit fiddly if you swap a lot during sets
Is there any way to use FX effects in this controller because I was looking to buy this one but I also use FX often.
Yes you can, you just can't use the Serato FX without doing some mapping
Can it be use with virtual dj ?
I'm probably still gonna go for the SX3, I need a new controller as I'm using an Ergo and the mic line sucks in the ergo.(I think it's because it's only USB powered as to why the mic input sucks. Lots of latency) With the SX3 it has 3 mic inputs and can host 2 laptops which I think is great. I also use VDJ for software.
!Sounds like you'll really enjoy that upgrade!
does anyone know why they may have removed split cue from all but there top end controller's
I actually realised/remembered that last night. It is a notable omission, but of course Pioneer DJ isn't alone in this - few controllers have it.
ddj sx3 still owns this piece of hardware. SX3 is just intuitive.
Agreed. Not selling mine for this thing. It's looks alone. Just made to mimic CDJ/DJM
Hi I know this is an old review. I am looking into getting into this hobby starting from ground zero. Knowing myself, if I purchase a basic controller without the on board effects and some bells and whistles I will most likely lose interest. I was looking at this system along withe the Rane 4. I remember hearing don't get hung up on controllers but knowing me i have to have the best bang for buck so I can grow into the controller without having to upgrade. What do you think? Thanks and you make great review vids.
DDJ-FLX10
The Roland 707 has me intrigued.
You mentioned the press and turn for looping control. What controller has this function?
Traktor S4
I would have to agree the loop functions are not very convenient. Numark got it right with the Numark Scratch mixer w/the encoder. So simple.
Agreed - a one-knob encoder rocks.
Why is the master VU missing?
Ok one thing i fully one to understand. Why would care if i could access the effects in the serato software if i have it built in on the hardware? And it's not hard to access on the hardware it's right there. And I'm comparing sx3 with this for the better buy. So any advice will be appreciated
Simply a matter of having the choice, personally I'd go with the SRT - it feels a lot better to me than the SX3
Is the DDJ 1000SRT able to fit in my current Odyssey DDJ SZ case or I do have to buy a new case that fits the DDJ 1000?
SRT is smaller than SZ, so you can fit the SRT in the SZ case with extra padding.
It's exactly the same size as the DDJ-1000.
where is the buttons for the cross fader if u want to change it from heavy to light etc like the jog wheel
doesnt exist on this, there is no crossfader curve knob. You have to adjust it within the software.
There's no such thing (on this or any controller) - crossfaders are preferred as "light" as possible across the board.
I have never used serato another great software iv been told I was just curious as a rekorderbox user on DDJ 1000.
I used R/Box then moved to serato big mistake R/Box can do loads more serato is limited mate stick with r/b or you will be disappointed and end up back with r/b
What can we build with leftover parts? Oh a new controller totally innovative! Instead of just updating the existing controllers firmware to talk to Serato
Cant really blame Pioneer for that. Serato is a competitor of their software. so naturally their version of the controllers will always be better and more intuitive ;) Just gotta switch to rekordbox instead then :)
thomas rexen exactly what I’m thinking they limit it because it will sell more than there will#smart