This is actually the first time I have ever seen somebody talk about costs in tennis so openly. Thank you so much for your transparency! I really wish you all the best for the upcoming months, keep grinding and you’re getting to your first atp point!🤗
You should take a look at Operation Liftoff. Alex Donsky, a bulgarian tennis player, shows his way into pro tennis and talks a little about earnings, costs, etc. He hasn't been posting that much tho
One of the biggest regrets I have looking back at my tennis career (top 100 USA & played at a small D1 school) was not taking ownership of the costs. If I had half the mindset you have back then I think I could have taken it farther. This is really awesome to see going to keep up with your career!
Been watching for about 4 years now we're the same age, but I'm ending my tennis journey this year as I go to college, but I pray for the best for you and your journey to reach new heights. You were one of the channels that I watched consistently when I first started playing about four years ago couldn't thank you enough for the motivation. Good luck
How do you manage to get everything? Training, video recording, editing? Does UA-cam take up a lot of your time? Or is it a way for you to rest and relax? You are amazing, I wish you luck on the way to the first ATP point, but that's just the beginning of your journey. My costs for my first ATP point were similar. In Serbia, training is cheaper, while in Australia, for example, I paid $ 100 for 1 hour of private training. In addition to great sacrifice, happy circumstances play a big role, which can raise your self-confidence to a higher level. I was not very lucky to continue after winning a couple of ATP points, and if I came to the ATP list young. Life and tennis experience, work habits, job of a tennis coach is invaluable. You definitely have a level much higher than 1 ATP point, just believe in yourself, and never give up on your goals.
Thank you for your honest estimations including your sponsorship situation. I cannot thank you enough for the depth you go into with your videos. I hope as your channel grows your burden (or your parents’) gets less.
I remember watching Operation Liftoff by Alex Donski a couple years back. He did something similar to what your trying to do but doesn't make that much content anymore. Good to see someone back on it.
Today was my first tournament of 2022. I won the first round 11-9 in the third saving 2 match points. I lose on the second round 12-10 in the tie break and in the second set I was having 5 match points. It was a painful lose. Good luck to your next tournament!
I played tennis for 8 years,I left it when I was 15,I played professional for 3 years,and I was always shocked about the amount of money my parents paid on me to play tennis,it really made me feel uncomfortable(especially shoes,strings and fuel),I remember when my mother and my grandmother drove me to the court and my grandmother that lived most of her life in a poor village in Morocco said that in her time tennis was only for the richest people and my mother answered that it is still only for the rich,I appreciate my parents so much for that they spent their time and their money for me to be happy,I wish you luck and waiting to see you in big tournaments
same here ...all the family money goes into the tennis for my brother Lucian and me. We both went to school & never gave it all up - so if tennis does not work out we have a good education.
Very informative, and terrifying. I really had no idea. Hats off to your parents for not only seeing your potential but helping you to realize that potential. You are an amazing young man, and I am very excited to one day watch you play tennis at the highest level. To say that I knew him when...
My son is 17 and he is also trying like you to get the 1st ATP pont ,we are staying in India in International community ,luckily we have to pay for the tennis court only 10$ per month and I'm couching him myself, so our expenses a much more less, tournament traveling and fees + hotel,can be from 100$ to 300$, 1racket stringing + strings~ 10$ . Here is no much sponsors even for the top players,and we are not Indian origin so it even more difficult. Traveling also can be very tough specialy on summer.Hope you will get 1 st point soon! Good luck Felix!
Hey bro! Having the same journey as you, keep it up! One advice I can give you, to not underestimate is to buy a stringing machine (I suggest pro stringer, maybe about 800/900€) and learn how to restring racquets by yourself! Gives you some kind of sense of responsibility but also, if you need some tension changes you can adapt by yourself the second after you step out of a training session, you can just do by yourself the calculation in how much time that money will “come back” to you. Good luck 💪🏼
Is it worth his time? I had my own in college but was breaking strings so frequently it was a chore to come off a court and have to spend 30 min per racket just on that.
You are literally living my dream. I am also 18 years old and playing but never got deeper into it. So I hope you are enjoying your carrer and i am looking forward to seeing you on the big stage;)
My 6-year-old will be starting his first private lessons in the first week of August 2022. Looking forward to seeing what I end up paying throughout the year. The goal is to have him take lessons twice a week, plus whatever lessons I tend to give him as well. Thanks for the costs of your journey. Appreciate the whole video and good luck!
Thank you so much for a very informative video! I know that it costs a shitload of money, to get your first point. I'm married to a former wta 49 player, and I learned what dedication, luck and skill it requires to get all the way to the top. I have played futures in my younger days, but pretty quickly found out, that I didn't have the determination to persue a pro career. So respect and best of luck on your journey, I hope you keep grinding, and stay positive and enjoy every minute of it🙏💪😎. best wishes from Denmark
Here in California, private lessons are USD $60-$80 per hour, group lessons are $22-$30 per hour, & club fees are about $100 per month unless it’s public… then it’s about $10-$15 per hour of Court usage.
i mean those club fees and court hire fees are ridiculous, in the uk access to a club with free court booking, a gym, swimming pool, spa , padel courts, etc costs around $100 per month
I used to get coached by the former coach of Luis Horna and Jaime Izaga (both are peruvian ATP tennis players). When I asked him (my coach) how much did it really cost to form a pro tennis player, he told that in average, per year, you need to spend around 110 000 USD (that includes daily sessions of tennis training, travel costs, equipment, etc.). So, doing the math, if let's say that you want to start your pro tennis career at age 11-12, and assuming that you make it to the ATP circuit at age 17, that's around 5-6 years x 110 000 USD = 550 000 - 660 000 USD in total.
@@seiscero that might work. In Latin America, the best tennis (both in academies, tournaments and junior competition) is in Argentina. For example, Coria, Nalbandian and Pablo Cuevas used to train in an Argentinian academy near Uruguay. Of course in Latin America all expenses are in local currency (Peruvian Soles, Argentinian Pesos), so if you have savings in euros or USD then it will be cheaper for you to train in LATAM. However, junior argentinian players and all junior LATAM players who are competing in the juniors circuit (ITF, Futures), eventually end up traveling to North America and Europe to compete.
I like the way you break it down. I also like your dedication to this sport. On the plus side, the money that has been spent is also paying back dividends beyond any money won. Skills like how to be independent, how to overcome nervousness, commitment to a training schedule, getting up early, practicing all day when you don't want to. All of these skills are transferable to a number of different careers beyond playing tennis. Great job sticking with it and good luck in your quest.
I started playing tennis when i was 14. So got only 1 year of U-14 . I couldnt afford to keep on playing tennis obviously because my family was not that rich but my dad did everything he could to provide me with the best gear. Spent good two years on the national circuit before i finally had to give up. Now i am working my ass off to save up atleast 500,000$ for my future son/daughter's career { if they happen to take up tennis }
Wow thanks for the insight! I just started playing tennis a year ago and switched from another sport. Really nasty how expensive tennis on this higher level is! Wish you the best of luck on your journey. You can do it!
Thank you for the info and details of your journey into tennis. Those are insane numbers, and I wonder how many people just give up on the process of being a professional tennis player, given the costs. My question in your case would be how much confidence you feel in yourself, now that you enter into the true real breakout of your career.. I mean results, and people that are around you giving you support.
Excellent post! Great information! I am a little surprised that when itemizing your expenses, you didn’t include food. The food for an elite athlete is very expensive. Plus, with all the training, I would imagine you eat many small meals/snacks throughout the day. Again, thanks for the info! Have a great 2022!
Good point! We thought about including food - it's another factor. However we decided against that to not make it too detailed. As I normally would eat a LOT and healthy food ( if I would just be a sporty 18 year old ) we thought that we book this under general living costs...
Good breakdown. What's missing are the potential rewards, which are tiny until he gets to challenger events. These open tournaments in the UK, though played at a really high level, will not earn you a single ATP point and at most $500 to the winner!
I can't wait till I go pro! I believe I can! I went from a 4.8 to a 6.36 in 5 months and honestly I'm now understanding the need of doing work outside of the tennis court (I'm running 20-30 mins) (20 mins of peloton) (20 mins of footwork) 30-40 mins of reaction) (15 mins of balancing!)
Great video, good luck on your journey. I was a county level sprinter as a kid and got to semi pro football level at 16. Played tennis just in the summer with friends Had my first tennis lesson at 27, first tournament at 32 got to 632 UK Open Men’s singles in my late 30’s. That level of investment and commitment from age 7 makes me think if I could have been pushing for an ATP point.
Wow what a fantastic video. Thanks for listening to the fans. There’s always going to be haters on UA-cam, and I hope you learn to ignore them and not let it take over your mind. Keep up the positivity and keep your spirits high. From the videos it’s obvious you’re a fantastic player, but also an amazing human being off the court. Bravo 👏🏾 I watch your videos while eating dinner over Netflix or any other streaming service. Your “hero’s” journey is exceptionally well done, and everyone loves it as well.
It is rough out there! Played for a year and a half, went from unranked to top 400 in 6 months, lost money all the way through. I made more money playing money tournaments in the USA then on tour! Then I decided to start a UA-cam channel lol! But don’t get discouraged by the costs, focus on your goal all the way. Best of luck!!
Great Great video, I really like your content and I wishing the best for you, I'm sure one day we will see you playing ATP 250, 500, masters and Slams, this video is a really good eye opener for everyone who wants to become a pro player, i think tennis is a beautiful sport but is really expensive and that's why sports like football are so popular, making a carrer as a professional or even practicing on a regular basis is so so so much cheaper, but anyway all your sacrifices will pay in a couple of years, just keep the effort.
Great video explaining the breakdown of all the categories! It's been exciting to follow you on your journey and can't wait to see you get your first dub. Keep up the good work!!!
Hi I hope you will keep the enthusiasm about making these videos beacuse they are pure gold and every tennis fan enjoys them... I am thinking felix auger wins rotterdam today, he played banjaluka challanger 2018, your name is felix, maybe we can see you in banjaluka next year....beautiful new court in the middle of the park, great hospitality, fans who understands the game, night matches, end of summer....maybe
Hey mate, I think the channel is such a cool idea. I’m also on the hunt for an ATP point this year too. Training costs here in Australia are free if you’re in the national academy and even a lot of our travel interstate has been subsidised by Tennis Australia. I’d say my costs for this year (when I go overseas to play futures) would be significantly cheaper. If you go to a place like Tunisia or Turkey it is cheap as. Your best bet is to just go to one of the places with a mate and rent an apartment or Airbnb for a couple months and it’ll make it so much more affordable. Like only $200usd a month for a good place if sharing with mates. Then you’ve just gotta add transport on top of that which is pretty cheap anyway. Like I was thinking $1k a month not $5k. Best of luck mate 💪
It seems that is good to become coach or physiotherapist hah! Good luck mate, I'm playing as an amateur every week and I'm just in love with tennis for about 1.5 year (after 15 years break). Hopefully I'll see you soon on ATP tour. While I'm still living in UK maybe I'll give you some support as a spectator. Good channel
Love the honesty man, haven't seen someone being as open about the costs Just wondering, did you struggle with managing the tournaments and losing those school days?
this is a great video man, for real. So let's say it takes about 200k for 1 ATP point, I never knew my parents were spending so much money on me hahaha I'm 16 and have a UTR of 9. My goal is college tennis so 1 ATP point isnt necessary. Good luck on your journey, I'll be following you :)
We were actually in the same draw once in the Boehner Cup or something in Dusseldorf, Germany. I think you even won that tournament a few years ago, I lost my first round match but still funny to think of it, cause I couldn’t be further away from making it pro and just play for fun non competitively these days and you’re hustling to get your first ATP point, which is massive. Best of luck on your journey and hope to see your name on the futures/challenger tour in a few years
Brilliant video. Gives people a realistic idea of what it costs to take their game to the next level if they are willing to invest into their tennis. Could you do more videos like this, explaining pathways to take in terms of training, group training, 1-2-1's etc they can take to get to a county, regional and national level?
Great video. I'm curious, how do you finance all the costs? Do you earn money from the tournaments or is it coming from your parents, mainly? Keep up the great work 😃🎾💪
a lot in the past has been payed by my parents thought the younger years , now that i can earn money through youtube and other social work, i am helping them to pay for the costs, still a long way to go to fully pay myself but that is the goal for me as well as 1 apt point, to be able to just cover the costs , not even make any money extra
At the moment my parents pay nearly all of the money I spend. I get some help from sponsors but they don't pay me money - they provide me with gear. Going forward I hope that the YT channel and some other ideas I have will provide the income I need to keep playing ;-)
@@CGStep At the moment my parents pay nearly all of the money I spent. I get some help from sponsors but they don't pay me money - they provide me with gear. Going forward I hope that the YT channel and some other ideas I have will provide the income I need to keep playing ;-)
@@tennisbrothers I wish you the best of luck with your pro investment. Keep grinding, and don't forget to hug your parents for the economical support 😉🎾💪
@@tennisbrothers wow amazing i hope atleast youtube pay ill pay u in future the most my former tennis trianer played future events in austria and he told me his parents paid for him over 300 000 euros but they owned a tennis center so they could affort it but in the end he told me it was an adventure for its self but a truely waste of money for his parents i hope that you ill have a better chance
@@tennisbrothers uff really u can get a pro and enjoy your life thats possible just train more effizient much harder but for less time and plan more time to relax the mental strength is much more important than physical strength
I've been hitting against the wall since the very start as a rec player. As a result I'm trailing behind my tennis peers by far. No lucre, no glory. Sad but true. . .
Thanks a lot for the detailed breakdown, it's a really helpful and informative summary of the costs involved 😁 One question rose to my mind though, how did you manage to become sponsored for practically all your apparel? Perhaps you could make a video of that too, a cheeky suggestion haha
Great, honest video. It is sort of depressing to me that it costs a small fortune to even get a CHANCE at becoming an elite player. I suppose it is because tennis is so technique-heavy that you need tons of instruction compared to, say, American football or soccer or basketball. It's easy to see why working-class kids becoming tennis stars is exceedingly rare. I know you're estimating roughly here, but the cost would be significantly higher if you accounted for inflation. One dollar 10 years ago is about $1.20 today.
Yh for sure , it is crazy looking back at the numbers , but like I said you don’t need to spend this amount , this is just what I spent , it can be done for a lot less
Team sports can subsidise many of these costs in a way tennis doesn’t. For example in football ⚽️, clubs can have academies and train entire squads for free because if they can sell at least one of them, it will give profit to the club.
You are correct - Talent is a big factor. At the extremes, look at the Williams sisters or Michael Chang, who won his first Grand Slam match at 15, his first tournament at 16, and a Slam at 17. Quite depressing info for regular people!
Hey Felix I had a question for you, I actually wanted to know that how do you get sponsored like from such big companies, do you like ask them for being sponsored or do they come up to you and offer you deals? Also all the best on the journey for road to point 1 💪you got this!!
When you go on tournaments in Europe, you could always ask your UA-cam Audience whether they could house you for a few days 😊 this could save a bit of money and the person who house you could learn from you a lot and maybe hit a few minutes with you 😋 WIN WIN situation 🤠
Amazing video sir! In USTA tennis people always say, we don’t get paid to play don’t be so serious, my response: but we pay so much for everything that it’s just as big of a deal. Now we have a video proving it. What’s your UTR?
Nice video man... I understand doing it in dollars might have made sense for UA-cam but would have been good to get the pounds in brackets so UK audience aren't having to convert each time as you did!
I thought long and hard about that - in the end I was running out of time & decided to upload instead of adding £. However I will do this in future videos - you make a good point.
@@tennisbrothers understandable man... as well as being interesting I think this video also helps us decent tennis players in our 20's feel better about ourselves by highlighting just how much it would have cost to even stand a chance of getting to that top level 😂
@nicogd for sure bro... 100%...obviously it's extremely difficult to get to pro level even if you start at 7 years old but you could definitely become a high level amateur player, maybe (big maybe) even semi-pro, if you were serious and devoted enough time to it as well as having a degree of natural talent! I played tennis from about 7 until 13 but then stopped (kinda wish I hadn't and given it a shot) but then started playing again when I was 19 for like three years, stopped to do other sports for a bit then started again at 23/24 (I'm 25 now) and I'd say I'm a good standard player who will beat most casual players and hold my own against more competitive players. So if you devoted a solid block of time now you could definitely be a really good player with a bit of natural talent, practicing the fundamentals religiously and working on your individual game. Good luck my dude 🤙
i guess you are familiar with the story of dustin brown, he was traveling along germany in a trailer and played futures and challangers i think. that cut the costs a lot. but yeah the first problem would be getting one in the first place and you have to be someone to be able to live on the road, which i don't know, if it is something for you, cause i discovered your channel yesterday. all that said, i hope you have success, but as far as i think, you are on a good way
I think in the UK, based off your data, the tournament entry fee costs are way lower. Just to play a usta tournament depending on the level can range from 50-200 dollars just for the entry fee. It was really nice to hear your insight about this though and good luck with your journey.
Felix just came here and told straight FACTS. No bs, no sugarcoating, just the truth. Respect 👏
Delecate topic but I thought a story worth telling...,
@@tennisbrothers video idea for next week: how I got sponsored on my journey to my 1st ATP point
This is actually the first time I have ever seen somebody talk about costs in tennis so openly. Thank you so much for your transparency! I really wish you all the best for the upcoming months, keep grinding and you’re getting to your first atp point!🤗
You should take a look at Operation Liftoff. Alex Donsky, a bulgarian tennis player, shows his way into pro tennis and talks a little about earnings, costs, etc. He hasn't been posting that much tho
Almost all sports are crazy expensive these days, but tennis and golf are among the worst.
So the question is how are u making money to pay.... are u some uk royalty
Wishing you the best of luck Felix. We hope to see you in ATP TV soon. :)
thank you
One of the biggest regrets I have looking back at my tennis career (top 100 USA & played at a small D1 school) was not taking ownership of the costs. If I had half the mindset you have back then I think I could have taken it farther. This is really awesome to see going to keep up with your career!
Been watching for about 4 years now we're the same age, but I'm ending my tennis journey this year as I go to college, but I pray for the best for you and your journey to reach new heights. You were one of the channels that I watched consistently when I first started playing about four years ago couldn't thank you enough for the motivation. Good luck
Thats really sad to hear , i hope you are doing good mate
I feel like this is what many young players wanted to know years ago
Great content
How do you manage to get everything? Training, video recording, editing? Does UA-cam take up a lot of your time? Or is it a way for you to rest and relax?
You are amazing, I wish you luck on the way to the first ATP point, but that's just the beginning of your journey. My costs for my first ATP point were similar. In Serbia, training is cheaper, while in Australia, for example, I paid $ 100 for 1 hour of private training. In addition to great sacrifice, happy circumstances play a big role, which can raise your self-confidence to a higher level. I was not very lucky to continue after winning a couple of ATP points, and if I came to the ATP list young. Life and tennis experience, work habits, job of a tennis coach is invaluable. You definitely have a level much higher than 1 ATP point, just believe in yourself, and never give up on your goals.
Thank you for your honest estimations including your sponsorship situation. I cannot thank you enough for the depth you go into with your videos. I hope as your channel grows your burden (or your parents’) gets less.
I remember watching Operation Liftoff by Alex Donski a couple years back. He did something similar to what your trying to do but doesn't make that much content anymore. Good to see someone back on it.
Omg Same here. I loved watching Alex. And now you are carrying on. You two schould calloborate some time
Same!
Used to Love his stuff
Same I love Alex watching his futures were fun
Me too !
Same, he still plays professionally, where's the content
Today was my first tournament of 2022. I won the first round 11-9 in the third saving 2 match points. I lose on the second round 12-10 in the tie break and in the second set I was having 5 match points. It was a painful lose.
Good luck to your next tournament!
🙏 thanks ,tough loss but well done on getting the win in the first
@@tennisbrothers 👍🏻🎾
I played tennis for 8 years,I left it when I was 15,I played professional for 3 years,and I was always shocked about the amount of money my parents paid on me to play tennis,it really made me feel uncomfortable(especially shoes,strings and fuel),I remember when my mother and my grandmother drove me to the court and my grandmother that lived most of her life in a poor village in Morocco said that in her time tennis was only for the richest people and my mother answered that it is still only for the rich,I appreciate my parents so much for that they spent their time and their money for me to be happy,I wish you luck and waiting to see you in big tournaments
same here ...all the family money goes into the tennis for my brother Lucian and me. We both went to school & never gave it all up - so if tennis does not work out we have a good education.
Very informative, and terrifying. I really had no idea. Hats off to your parents for not only seeing your potential but helping you to realize that potential. You are an amazing young man, and I am very excited to one day watch you play tennis at the highest level. To say that I knew him when...
My son is 17 and he is also trying like you to get the 1st ATP pont ,we are staying in India in International community ,luckily we have to pay for the tennis court only 10$ per month and I'm couching him myself, so our expenses a much more less, tournament traveling and fees + hotel,can be from 100$ to 300$, 1racket stringing + strings~ 10$ . Here is no much sponsors even for the top players,and we are not Indian origin so it even more difficult. Traveling also can be very tough specialy on summer.Hope you will get 1 st point soon! Good luck Felix!
good luck to you guys 👍
Hey bro! Having the same journey as you, keep it up!
One advice I can give you, to not underestimate is to buy a stringing machine (I suggest pro stringer, maybe about 800/900€) and learn how to restring racquets by yourself! Gives you some kind of sense of responsibility but also, if you need some tension changes you can adapt by yourself the second after you step out of a training session, you can just do by yourself the calculation in how much time that money will “come back” to you. Good luck 💪🏼
Is it worth his time? I had my own in college but was breaking strings so frequently it was a chore to come off a court and have to spend 30 min per racket just on that.
Wishing you the best of luck. These videos inspire me to try harder being a 4.89 UTR
thank you !
Stop worrying about your utr please
Oh god do u even know how to hit the ball over
slightly jealous of you
@@olivertarvet5172 wdym
Love the consistency
we try our best ;-)
You are literally living my dream. I am also 18 years old and playing but never got deeper into it. So I hope you are enjoying your carrer and i am looking forward to seeing you on the big stage;)
My 6-year-old will be starting his first private lessons in the first week of August 2022. Looking forward to seeing what I end up paying throughout the year. The goal is to have him take lessons twice a week, plus whatever lessons I tend to give him as well. Thanks for the costs of your journey. Appreciate the whole video and good luck!
Good luck Pola. The costs will keep rising year after year - they really explode when you start playing international tournaments.
Thank you so much for a very informative video! I know that it costs a shitload of money, to get your first point. I'm married to a former wta 49 player, and I learned what dedication, luck and skill it requires to get all the way to the top. I have played futures in my younger days, but pretty quickly found out, that I didn't have the determination to persue a pro career. So respect and best of luck on your journey, I hope you keep grinding, and stay positive and enjoy every minute of it🙏💪😎. best wishes from Denmark
A topic that isn’t spoken about enough. Great vid and explanation
Thanks
Felix you should apply for consulting companies, Damn that guesstimate structure was awesome
Haha , the actual prep for the video took way longer than filming and editing this time
Here in California, private lessons are USD $60-$80 per hour, group lessons are $22-$30 per hour, & club fees are about $100 per month unless it’s public… then it’s about $10-$15 per hour of Court usage.
i mean those club fees and court hire fees are ridiculous, in the uk access to a club with free court booking, a gym, swimming pool, spa , padel courts, etc costs around $100 per month
I used to get coached by the former coach of Luis Horna and Jaime Izaga (both are peruvian ATP tennis players). When I asked him (my coach) how much did it really cost to form a pro tennis player, he told that in average, per year, you need to spend around 110 000 USD (that includes daily sessions of tennis training, travel costs, equipment, etc.). So, doing the math, if let's say that you want to start your pro tennis career at age 11-12, and assuming that you make it to the ATP circuit at age 17, that's around 5-6 years x 110 000 USD = 550 000 - 660 000 USD in total.
I think it's time for Euros to learn spanish and go do the pre season in Argentina xD. 1 dollar = 215 pesos.
Lot's of amazing academies.
@@seiscero that might work. In Latin America, the best tennis (both in academies, tournaments and junior competition) is in Argentina. For example, Coria, Nalbandian and Pablo Cuevas used to train in an Argentinian academy near Uruguay. Of course in Latin America all expenses are in local currency (Peruvian Soles, Argentinian Pesos), so if you have savings in euros or USD then it will be cheaper for you to train in LATAM.
However, junior argentinian players and all junior LATAM players who are competing in the juniors circuit (ITF, Futures), eventually end up traveling to North America and Europe to compete.
I like the way you break it down. I also like your dedication to this sport. On the plus side, the money that has been spent is also paying back dividends beyond any money won. Skills like how to be independent, how to overcome nervousness, commitment to a training schedule, getting up early, practicing all day when you don't want to. All of these skills are transferable to a number of different careers beyond playing tennis. Great job sticking with it and good luck in your quest.
I started playing tennis when i was 14. So got only 1 year of U-14 . I couldnt afford to keep on playing tennis obviously because my family was not that rich but my dad did everything he could to provide me with the best gear. Spent good two years on the national circuit before i finally had to give up. Now i am working my ass off to save up atleast 500,000$ for my future son/daughter's career { if they happen to take up tennis }
Wow thanks for the insight! I just started playing tennis a year ago and switched from another sport. Really nasty how expensive tennis on this higher level is! Wish you the best of luck on your journey. You can do it!
New shoes every two weeks sounds so crazy to me :D
Haha , I slide a lot on hardcourt , that is why they go so fast
I thought so too, but after seeing intensity and sliding I can understand it.
Maturity at this age is amazing. All the best 👍
Thank you for the info and details of your journey into tennis.
Those are insane numbers, and I wonder how many people just give up on the process of being a professional tennis player, given the costs.
My question in your case would be how much confidence you feel in yourself, now that you enter into the true real breakout of your career..
I mean results, and people that are around you giving you support.
Excellent post! Great information! I am a little surprised that when itemizing your expenses, you didn’t include food. The food for an elite athlete is very expensive. Plus, with all the training, I would imagine you eat many small meals/snacks throughout the day. Again, thanks for the info! Have a great 2022!
Good point! We thought about including food - it's another factor. However we decided against that to not make it too detailed. As I normally would eat a LOT and healthy food ( if I would just be a sporty 18 year old ) we thought that we book this under general living costs...
Good breakdown. What's missing are the potential rewards, which are tiny until he gets to challenger events. These open tournaments in the UK, though played at a really high level, will not earn you a single ATP point and at most $500 to the winner!
I can't wait till I go pro! I believe I can! I went from a 4.8 to a 6.36 in 5 months and honestly I'm now understanding the need of doing work outside of the tennis court (I'm running 20-30 mins) (20 mins of peloton) (20 mins of footwork) 30-40 mins of reaction) (15 mins of balancing!)
Keep at it , you got it 💪
Avg travel expenses for the tour is around 50 to 75k just to travel for the player.
It's all very costly!
Great video, good luck on your journey.
I was a county level sprinter as a kid and got to semi pro football level at 16. Played tennis just in the summer with friends
Had my first tennis lesson at 27, first tournament at 32 got to 632 UK Open Men’s singles in my late 30’s. That level of investment and commitment from age 7 makes me think if I could have been pushing for an ATP point.
Wow what a fantastic video. Thanks for listening to the fans. There’s always going to be haters on UA-cam, and I hope you learn to ignore them and not let it take over your mind. Keep up the positivity and keep your spirits high. From the videos it’s obvious you’re a fantastic player, but also an amazing human being off the court. Bravo 👏🏾
I watch your videos while eating dinner over Netflix or any other streaming service. Your “hero’s” journey is exceptionally well done, and everyone loves it as well.
It is rough out there! Played for a year and a half, went from unranked to top 400 in 6 months, lost money all the way through. I made more money playing money tournaments in the USA then on tour! Then I decided to start a UA-cam channel lol! But don’t get discouraged by the costs, focus on your goal all the way. Best of luck!!
Why did you stop?
Great Great video, I really like your content and I wishing the best for you, I'm sure one day we will see you playing ATP 250, 500, masters and Slams, this video is a really good eye opener for everyone who wants to become a pro player, i think tennis is a beautiful sport but is really expensive and that's why sports like football are so popular, making a carrer as a professional or even practicing on a regular basis is so so so much cheaper, but anyway all your sacrifices will pay in a couple of years, just keep the effort.
You’ve done a great job managing your expenses. And from seeing your tennis improvement, it’s totally worth it.
Who are your sponsors?
Dunlop as well as Bidi Badu.
Great video explaining the breakdown of all the categories! It's been exciting to follow you on your journey and can't wait to see you get your first dub. Keep up the good work!!!
Hi
I hope you will keep the enthusiasm about making these videos beacuse they are pure gold and every tennis fan enjoys them...
I am thinking felix auger wins rotterdam today, he played banjaluka challanger 2018, your name is felix, maybe we can see you in banjaluka next year....beautiful new court in the middle of the park, great hospitality, fans who understands the game, night matches, end of summer....maybe
Thank you for sharing your journey. It’s definitely interesting and cool to see. Wish you all the luck and lots of wins this year!
Thanks for sharing information that is nowhere else available.
Thank you for being honest, Felix!
Bro... Wish u the best luck 🤞 to u,all my wishes is with u and i hope u get thousands of ATP points,wishing u all the best🥰🥰
Thank you so much
felix I just saw this vid and I also started playing tennis at age 7, but I didn't start playing tournaments until I was 10.
Another great video. Huge kudos to you for sharing your journey with us. Whether its highs or lows, good days or bad days, we're with you all the way.
❤️
Hey mate, I think the channel is such a cool idea. I’m also on the hunt for an ATP point this year too. Training costs here in Australia are free if you’re in the national academy and even a lot of our travel interstate has been subsidised by Tennis Australia. I’d say my costs for this year (when I go overseas to play futures) would be significantly cheaper. If you go to a place like Tunisia or Turkey it is cheap as. Your best bet is to just go to one of the places with a mate and rent an apartment or Airbnb for a couple months and it’ll make it so much more affordable. Like only $200usd a month for a good place if sharing with mates. Then you’ve just gotta add transport on top of that which is pretty cheap anyway. Like I was thinking $1k a month not $5k. Best of luck mate 💪
It seems that is good to become coach or physiotherapist hah! Good luck mate, I'm playing as an amateur every week and I'm just in love with tennis for about 1.5 year (after 15 years break). Hopefully I'll see you soon on ATP tour. While I'm still living in UK maybe I'll give you some support as a spectator. Good channel
Appreciate it 🙏👍
Thats a comprehensive breakdown Felix.
I tried to cover everything ...
Love the honesty man, haven't seen someone being as open about the costs
Just wondering, did you struggle with managing the tournaments and losing those school days?
Thanks this was a very informative video for me. I want to go pro and this showed me how much it really costs.
Wishing you all the luck. Can't wait to see you get your 1st ATP point this year. Go!
Thank you!!
Thank you for sharing! Very interesting and I admire the dedication you have for tennis. Also shout out to your team, parents, and supporters.
Been waiting for this one.
Great vid bro!
thank you
this is a great video man, for real. So let's say it takes about 200k for 1 ATP point, I never knew my parents were spending so much money on me hahaha I'm 16 and have a UTR of 9. My goal is college tennis so 1 ATP point isnt necessary. Good luck on your journey, I'll be following you :)
Good luck my Brother. That's some true dedication. Bravo to your parents as well!
Thanks for the real insight. Wishing you a fabulous ATP Tennis journey.
You’re a legend bruh. I respect you. You’ll have more than 1 atp point in the near future. Keep the vids coming🤝
We were actually in the same draw once in the Boehner Cup or something in Dusseldorf, Germany. I think you even won that tournament a few years ago, I lost my first round match but still funny to think of it, cause I couldn’t be further away from making it pro and just play for fun non competitively these days and you’re hustling to get your first ATP point, which is massive. Best of luck on your journey and hope to see your name on the futures/challenger tour in a few years
Thanks for the feedback. Boehner Cup was fun. I won the tournament in U12 and became Stadtmeister von Duesseldorf. ;-) Good luck with your tennis too.
Thanks for sharing! I wish you all the best and i hope you'll be such agressive on the court as you are in digital marketing.👍
Wow, Once again Great video. Finally someone that breaks it down. Thanks so much. God bless.
Mate I really hope you get that ATP point. Let's gooo!
Ur honestly a king, I hope you get that point mate 💪
What a brilliant video. This was so eye-opening!! Thanks so much. Good luck for the future.
Glad you liked it. I felt it needed to be published. Tennis is a expensive sport - unfortunately
You have been doing amazing with this pretty low cost. Good luck for your journey!
Another gerat video.
Keep up the good work and all the best on your journey!
You'll get there!!!
Really pleased with you sharing the information to all tennis fans. Get that 1st ATP now! DO IT... my inner Arnie voice got summoned!
thanks for your support!
Brilliant video. Gives people a realistic idea of what it costs to take their game to the next level if they are willing to invest into their tennis. Could you do more videos like this, explaining pathways to take in terms of training, group training, 1-2-1's etc they can take to get to a county, regional and national level?
Great video. I'm curious, how do you finance all the costs? Do you earn money from the tournaments or is it coming from your parents, mainly? Keep up the great work 😃🎾💪
A large chunk (or all) will probably be covered by his sponsors/yt channel
a lot in the past has been payed by my parents thought the younger years , now that i can earn money through youtube and other social work, i am helping them to pay for the costs, still a long way to go to fully pay myself but that is the goal for me as well as 1 apt point, to be able to just cover the costs , not even make any money extra
At the moment my parents pay nearly all of the money I spend. I get some help from sponsors but they don't pay me money - they provide me with gear. Going forward I hope that the YT channel and some other ideas I have will provide the income I need to keep playing ;-)
@@CGStep At the moment my parents pay nearly all of the money I spent. I get some help from sponsors but they don't pay me money - they provide me with gear. Going forward I hope that the YT channel and some other ideas I have will provide the income I need to keep playing ;-)
@@tennisbrothers I wish you the best of luck with your pro investment. Keep grinding, and don't forget to hug your parents for the economical support 😉🎾💪
Can you share what your parents do for a living? It’s amazing that they could do this for you.
Not really becouse the parents wanted him to get a tennis player thats why he played tennis so early becouse the parents wanted to
They both work & we literally never had a real holiday or a lot of the things other people do - every penny went into Tennis....
@@tennisbrothers wow amazing i hope atleast youtube pay ill pay u in future the most my former tennis trianer played future events in austria and he told me his parents paid for him over 300 000 euros but they owned a tennis center so they could affort it but in the end he told me it was an adventure for its self but a truely waste of money for his parents i hope that you ill have a better chance
@@tennisbrothers uff really u can get a pro and enjoy your life thats possible just train more effizient much harder but for less time and plan more time to relax the mental strength is much more important than physical strength
Hey buddy, I hope to get my first ATP point this year as well, I went for 1 tour to Tunisia last year which was 3 weeks but no luck.
Can’t wait for you to get that 1 atp point
Thanks for talking about this.
Great video!!! Shows the reality of a tennis player!!!
I've been hitting against the wall since the very start as a rec player. As a result I'm trailing behind my tennis peers by far. No lucre, no glory. Sad but true. . .
Great video, looking forward to the rest of the journey!
Awesome video man! Really eye opening to see what it takes to get to that level: financially, physically, and mentally.
great informative video. thank you for touching on such an important topic
Great video mate! Much success for the future and take care!
Thanks a lot for the detailed breakdown, it's a really helpful and informative summary of the costs involved 😁
One question rose to my mind though, how did you manage to become sponsored for practically all your apparel? Perhaps you could make a video of that too, a cheeky suggestion haha
Most of it comes from the social stuff to be honest , have been doing this for years so it definitely helps to get deals with sponsors
All the best bro to become a world no 1
Great, honest video. It is sort of depressing to me that it costs a small fortune to even get a CHANCE at becoming an elite player. I suppose it is because tennis is so technique-heavy that you need tons of instruction compared to, say, American football or soccer or basketball. It's easy to see why working-class kids becoming tennis stars is exceedingly rare.
I know you're estimating roughly here, but the cost would be significantly higher if you accounted for inflation. One dollar 10 years ago is about $1.20 today.
Yh for sure , it is crazy looking back at the numbers , but like I said you don’t need to spend this amount , this is just what I spent , it can be done for a lot less
Team sports can subsidise many of these costs in a way tennis doesn’t. For example in football ⚽️, clubs can have academies and train entire squads for free because if they can sell at least one of them, it will give profit to the club.
Great analysis Tennis Bro, this will help all those players (and their parents) who might be dreaming.
Those are awesome numbers, thanks for taking the time to make this!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for your support
You are correct - Talent is a big factor. At the extremes, look at the Williams sisters or Michael Chang, who won his first Grand Slam match at 15, his first tournament at 16, and a Slam at 17. Quite depressing info for regular people!
i love your viedeos!
thank you
Looking forward to seeing your next tournament. Good luck!!!
I'm playing next weekend - Can't wait ;-)
I wish you all the patience, dedication and willpower to make it! Good luck!
Thank you!
Hey Felix I had a question for you, I actually wanted to know that how do you get sponsored like from such big companies, do you like ask them for being sponsored or do they come up to you and offer you deals? Also all the best on the journey for road to point 1 💪you got this!!
well usually it is a mix of the 2, most of the time when brands come to me it is for social media work and we negiotiate through that view
@@tennisbrothers okay thank you do much Felix 😃
Oh my god @@
Huge respect to you and people around you.
Here in South Italy a one-to-one coaching costs 10€ per session(1 hour and half) and a group lesson costs about 7-8€ per session(2 hours)
Gosh - you are very fortunate! I should train in italy ;-) on top you guys have much better weather too ...
Keep it up! I believe in you!
190 K... Wow, that a pretty impressive number to get. I hope you and every other tennis player the best and good luck with Everything 😍🥰😘
Fantastic video. Thank you felix. Waiting for the next video
When you go on tournaments in Europe, you could always ask your UA-cam Audience whether they could house you for a few days 😊 this could save a bit of money and the person who house you could learn from you a lot and maybe hit a few minutes with you 😋 WIN WIN situation 🤠
Subscribed. You remind me of a real-life version of Ei-kun from Baby Steps.
Amazing video sir! In USTA tennis people always say, we don’t get paid to play don’t be so serious, my response: but we pay so much for everything that it’s just as big of a deal. Now we have a video proving it.
What’s your UTR?
Nice video man... I understand doing it in dollars might have made sense for UA-cam but would have been good to get the pounds in brackets so UK audience aren't having to convert each time as you did!
I thought long and hard about that - in the end I was running out of time & decided to upload instead of adding £. However I will do this in future videos - you make a good point.
@@tennisbrothers understandable man... as well as being interesting I think this video also helps us decent tennis players in our 20's feel better about ourselves by highlighting just how much it would have cost to even stand a chance of getting to that top level 😂
@nicogd starting at the age of 7 is actually already quite late to become a great unless you are very talented.
@nicogd for sure bro... 100%...obviously it's extremely difficult to get to pro level even if you start at 7 years old but you could definitely become a high level amateur player, maybe (big maybe) even semi-pro, if you were serious and devoted enough time to it as well as having a degree of natural talent! I played tennis from about 7 until 13 but then stopped (kinda wish I hadn't and given it a shot) but then started playing again when I was 19 for like three years, stopped to do other sports for a bit then started again at 23/24 (I'm 25 now) and I'd say I'm a good standard player who will beat most casual players and hold my own against more competitive players. So if you devoted a solid block of time now you could definitely be a really good player with a bit of natural talent, practicing the fundamentals religiously and working on your individual game. Good luck my dude 🤙
@nicogd also definitely try and invest in good quality coaching if you can afford it... will make a significant difference
i guess you are familiar with the story of dustin brown, he was traveling along germany in a trailer and played futures and challangers i think. that cut the costs a lot. but yeah the first problem would be getting one in the first place and you have to be someone to be able to live on the road, which i don't know, if it is something for you, cause i discovered your channel yesterday. all that said, i hope you have success, but as far as i think, you are on a good way
I think in the UK, based off your data, the tournament entry fee costs are way lower. Just to play a usta tournament depending on the level can range from 50-200 dollars just for the entry fee. It was really nice to hear your insight about this though and good luck with your journey.
I thought they were high, in Belgium we pay between 10-13€ as entry fee. Ofc the rewards will be way lower as well I guess.
yes most tournaments here cost £25