glider - high aspect ratio wing, not a speed break but a spoiler to disrupt the lift not slow down, great description of the panel (!). a great (!) comprehensive video once again from the moj.
@@delawarepilot Seriously. Its a true shame, and videos like these that call these 200k airplanes "affordable" or "cheap" just rub salt in the wound. I love the phoenix LSA. Beautiful aircraft with impressive performance. Its too bad that all the LSA manufacturers completely missed the point of the LSA category, which was to create entry level aircraft that would help people get into aviation at a reasonable cost.
As far as the thumbnail is concerned, I got my zenith 601XL for 29k and I get just barely under 30mpg as long as I fly 100mph true... I just don't see the point of trying to market to budget flyers if the product is a quarter mil
They also increase drag this is their primary function, rdducing lift to drag ratio to let you get down and stopped in a short distance. They reduce lift coefficient but that is not a desirable function during landing, its an accepted secondary effect.
Two words: Recreational fun. 35' wingspan without wing extensions, 49' with. The two items you're looking at on the ground between the main landing gear are wingtips that side into place when flying without the wing extensions installed. 32:1 glide ratio - not bad recreational performance (comparison: Blanik L-23 is 28:1). Not sure where cost could be trimmed to get the price down. It looks way heavy on avionics, maybe some $avings there? How "basic" would/could be basic, and get closer to +/- $150K?
It's how far the Glider will go for a certain loss of height . A glide ratio of 30 to one means the Glider will fly 30, 000 feet for a height loss of 1000 feet . There is an Italian Glider called an ETA which has a 30 metre wingspan and an incredible glide ratio of 70 to one ..
Nice glide ratio, even better than Risen. Quite a bit actually. But they don't write fuel burn anywhere... presumably that would be one of its strengths... they had one job. They don't write fuel capacity either. They had two jobs. From the payload and full fuel payload we can say it takes 150bls of fuel, roughly 87 liters. From the claimed range and cruise speed that's about 11liters per hour or 3gph. Of mogas. What they could do is make a wing with less lift, a wing for higher speed. Let's say it could go 300km/h, close to a Cirrus SR22 yet vastly lower fuel burn. That would make it way more interesting. It would need to be CS23 or simply stretch the definition of LSA which Bristell gets away with. But a plane like this seems so simple and robust it should be easy to get proper certified.
True, the high-performance gliders - single-place - reach into that glide ratio. 32:1 is NOT a brick. There are plenty of gliders (non-powered) that have lower than 32:1. For a two-place motor glider, 32:1 is pretty good.
@@adenwellsmith6908 Okay...? The point is 32:1 is not a "brick", and the higher the glide ratio, the high the price. Jonker's JS5 is a 24m, single-place - yet to be certified - glider. Can't find a proposed price or release date.
glider - high aspect ratio wing, not a speed break but a spoiler to disrupt the lift not slow down, great description of the panel (!). a great (!) comprehensive video once again from the moj.
Lets you fly on a budget.......of $220,000
Toys for millionaires. Real general aviation is dead.
That’s all I needed to nope out. I’ll grab a PA28 and refurbish it for that amount.
Rich people don't like it if the poors can have fun too.
@@delawarepilot
Seriously. Its a true shame, and videos like these that call these 200k airplanes "affordable" or "cheap" just rub salt in the wound.
I love the phoenix LSA. Beautiful aircraft with impressive performance. Its too bad that all the LSA manufacturers completely missed the point of the LSA category, which was to create entry level aircraft that would help people get into aviation at a reasonable cost.
@@delawarepilotI had a cherry PA28-161 paid 35k for her in 2008 sold her for 23k in 2010 today she is worth 100k plus
As far as the thumbnail is concerned, I got my zenith 601XL for 29k and I get just barely under 30mpg as long as I fly 100mph true... I just don't see the point of trying to market to budget flyers if the product is a quarter mil
Spoilers not speed brakes. They spoil lift and are not built for slowing the glider down.
They also increase drag this is their primary function, rdducing lift to drag ratio to let you get down and stopped in a short distance. They reduce lift coefficient but that is not a desirable function during landing, its an accepted secondary effect.
Fascinating
Two words: Recreational fun. 35' wingspan without wing extensions, 49' with. The two items you're looking at on the ground between the main landing gear are wingtips that side into place when flying without the wing extensions installed. 32:1 glide ratio - not bad recreational performance (comparison: Blanik L-23 is 28:1). Not sure where cost could be trimmed to get the price down. It looks way heavy on avionics, maybe some $avings there? How "basic" would/could be basic, and get closer to +/- $150K?
Nice to see the collection of JMB airplanes in the US….
I like the PT6 powered one….
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31 to 1 according to the stat sheet that I magnified. Also, full plane parachute. If you crash this one, you should give up flying.
What is the glide ratio?
It's how far the Glider will go for a certain loss of height . A glide ratio of 30 to one means the Glider will fly 30, 000 feet for a height loss of 1000 feet . There is an Italian Glider called an ETA which has a 30 metre wingspan and an incredible glide ratio of 70 to one ..
Where was this video taken? Does the Phoenix have an N number?
Very cool 😎 brother 🛩️🏆💪🏼🙌🏼🌍
“Glide ration”? Come on Mike. Fix the spelling in the title man. Words are important! 😄
Nice glide ratio, even better than Risen. Quite a bit actually. But they don't write fuel burn anywhere... presumably that would be one of its strengths... they had one job. They don't write fuel capacity either. They had two jobs. From the payload and full fuel payload we can say it takes 150bls of fuel, roughly 87 liters. From the claimed range and cruise speed that's about 11liters per hour or 3gph. Of mogas.
What they could do is make a wing with less lift, a wing for higher speed. Let's say it could go 300km/h, close to a Cirrus SR22 yet vastly lower fuel burn. That would make it way more interesting. It would need to be CS23 or simply stretch the definition of LSA which Bristell gets away with. But a plane like this seems so simple and robust it should be easy to get proper certified.
That is NOT affordable at all. It looks good and is probably fun to fly, but you will have to live out of that in the hanger.
Mike could you try to find us some videos of planes that are in a reasonable budget of under $100,000 please
Try to keep up. With inflation.
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32:1 is a brick. There are gliders at the 70:1
True, the high-performance gliders - single-place - reach into that glide ratio. 32:1 is NOT a brick. There are plenty of gliders (non-powered) that have lower than 32:1. For a two-place motor glider, 32:1 is pretty good.
@@EJWash57 The latest Rey has an engine and is 70 to 1
@@adenwellsmith6908 Okay...? The point is 32:1 is not a "brick", and the higher the glide ratio, the high the price. Jonker's JS5 is a 24m, single-place - yet to be certified - glider. Can't find a proposed price or release date.
@@EJWash57 I've a rough idea of the price. About the same as the Phoenix.
But you don't get much luggage space!