One small error I'd like to correct is me saying the Introduction Movie was exclusive to the PS2 version. The movie shipped on a separate disk as part of the "Special Edition" and not on all PS2 releases.
The Introduction movie was actually included on a third CD as part of the San Andreas soundtrack album, and was playable on PC, PS2 and Xbox, or anything with a CD reader. If you put it in a Sony Walkman, it still played the audio but obviously without any visuals. I don't believe it ever shipped with the PS2 game, special edition or otherwise.
San Andreas stories could have very well been a thing if they split the game into 3 disks. 1 for los santos and the country, 1 for san fierro, and 1 for Las Venturas.
@@Fxrrxt2x Pretty sure Rockstar could create GTA Las Venturas and San Fierro as seperate game within the 10 year frame they did before GTA 6 in the same engine. They were just too greedy.
There isn't much to make out of it. Also Brian was a teenager so Rockstar would not make a game about a teenager being killed even then. Now especially they wouldn't do it.
It would've made sense, though. The game also likely would've ended with their mother's murder and you'd see CJ making his way into the airplane that will bring him back home to tie it into the San Andreas intro.
@@SleepyjoeOGI’m guessing that was probably an update. Even I didn’t have the heat wave on the definitive edition. Haven’t played it in a long while though.
@ryanlopez1050 yeah that was a recent update, but it still sucked lol its literally everywhere too like in all the cities across the map which makes no sense and not just LS and the desert like in the original PS2 version.
VCS feels like a midpoint between old school GTA irreverancy and the realistic moodiness of IV. The story is tragic and cynical but there is also some wacky shit and flipppancy.
VCS is basically just a Cover of what GTA IV is going to be. It's like telling Niko the Land of Opportunity, the American Dream, and Liberty City is going to be amazing only to realize it's all fake and just straight up dark, gloomy, and sad. VCS, looks so cheerful and exciting. Then GTA IV comes in, and it feels so depressing to see what it looks like. But because VCS and IV look so different to each other, it's so easy to forget that both of these games have the same tragic stories with a mix of some of some light-hearted humor. They're basically the same, and even both of the protagonists, Niko and Victor, have been in the military, and they've both experienced some messed up tragedy, and did some messed up things too, but are still really kind people who's willing to help those around them and get revenge against the people who've wronged them and the people they care about. It's clear that the vibe of GTA IV was influenced by the dark side of VCS.
@@Jo-Wilbe-Dina Indeed. I do think that IV pulls it a lot better than Stories. The characters are more likable and the tone is more even. Stories has a radio program about a dude traveling in time by masturbating AND the depressing story of Louse. You can have wacky sh*t and pathos together but it is a tricky balance.
@@Jnensrevenge That's just Life in a nutshell. We are having fun because of all the whacky silly stuff, while suffering every single day and even being depressed at times.
Simple answer, the map is too big for PSP, San Andreas even pushed the PS2 to it's limit But i feel like a San Andreas Stories would've either had Sweet or Ceasar as the protagonist and set probably in 1989
60fps will never be standard. It has nothing to do with hardware. No matter how powerful the hardware gets, devs will rather dedicate the extra power to the game world than to 60 fps. They will always choose more NPC’s on screen over 60 fps. They will always choose lager maps over 60 fps. That’s just the way it goes.
The real reason they didn't do a GTA SA Stories is because they didn't want to, the leaks of this year show that they didn't event thought of doing it, there were more probabilities of doing a GTA in Tokyo than another game in San Andreas
@@Lupo32 yes and no, obviously Rockstar North was busy with GTA IV but not other Rockstar studios, there's a reason why the majority of games between GTA SA and GTA IV are done by studios like Rockstar Dundee or Rockstar Leeds, they could just use other studio to do their game, but no, they just didn't want to do GTA San Andreas Stories, do you really think Rockstar is just one game developer?
@@snake_ls Same reason they shift all the focus In gta 6 ..... red dead online was abandoned and rdr 3 has been green lit but all focus is on gta 6 ... and there is a rumored medieval rockstar game but all focus in on gta 6
@@Lupo32 You don't understand. There was a time when Rockstar wasn't just a one game company, they rebranded from DMA Design to Rockstar North during GTA3. To capitalise on the success of the Rockstar name, their parent company Take 2 rebranded other, smaller studios they owned around the world into Rockstar Leeds, Rockstar Dundee, Rockstar Toronto, etc etc. During this time, while Rockstar North developed GTAIV, the other studios made separate games. This is why we have Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, and when we should have theoretically got San Andreas Stories. However, not long after that, during GTAV development, Take2 redirected a few of the studios to help with GTAV and closed the others down. Then after RDR2, they closed the rest down, or merged them together into new studios. There is no shift of focus between a web of studios anymore, it's basically just the two, Rockstar North and Rockstar Toronto, plus the head legal office in New York. There are no other Rockstar branded studios left with a sizable enough team to develop a game, Rockstar Leeds only has 70 employees for example. Also everyone who made GTA and Rockstar North the company it was left after RDR2 anyway, Houser, Lazlow, Benzies, etc, so Rockstar North only exists in name only.
It was just a case of workload delegation. LCS and VCS were developed before the RAGE engine was fully fleshed out, then when IV was in development, it required almost all of their manpower, half of which then had to go on towards RDR throughout GTA IV. SA required too much storyline, voice actors, story developers etc that by the time IV was in full swing, there was no room to go back to San Andreas to develop another huge last gen game. They also had Max Payne 3 to deal with and then GTA V, there was no time or room for SA Stories. I wanted it at the time as much as all of us, but it makes sense now why we didn’t get it.
@@TheRealDarth_Vader I was a fan of gta 4 but it has very little replay value and has far less features than San Andreas which is crazy considering gta 4 was the introduction to the 3D universe. I may be a little biased but like you said it’s all opinion based.
@@maalikserebryakovpeople including me were genuinely upset about the lack of content in gta4 compared to gta sa when 4 came out. No planes, no car customization, no weight gain/loss mechanics, very limited clothing options, no rpg elements like sa, a less diverse map, not as much side missions, no underwater exploration, limited melee weapons and so on. Gta4 was a major step back from sa and is only getting glazed recently because of the euphoria engine that was better than gtav physics engine. This game was a huge disappointment in comparison to sa. You people just hype whatever the media is currently hyping. In 4 years when the narrative is saying gta vice city was the best, youll be saying how vc was the best. San andreas is the best gta and that isnt a debate. Every other gta lacks what sa had in some way or another and thats a fact.
The Los Santos lore(Families vs Ballas and Vagos vs Aztecas) was complete enough,but San Fierro still had potential,there are even a few gangs that are mentioned but never appeared(Shining Razors, Butterfly Children),imagine one were you play as a triad in San Fierro,expanding the lore of the Triads,San Fierro Rifa,Da Nang Boys,Loco syndicate,etc and if it was before San Andreas it could have return of characters like Woozie,Guppy,Litle Lion,Ran Fa Li,Su xi mu,Mike Toreno,Jizzy,T Bone or even Claude
And las venturas as well. Even there’s some mobsters who ruled the city before the Sindaccos. Maybe that would be another sindacco chronicles. But at their peak or something like that.
@@zakrowe1301 I just think we could've had one back then, in this imagine-spot we're in of "if they tried a San Andreas Stories on PSP". On GTA 1, San Andreas was literally just "San Fierro", so setting it just there, for instance, and in the 70's, could've worked great, what with that being the most famous decade for the "car chase movie", as well as one of the most popular locations too. Potentially interesting plot too, even relating to cars, what with the oil crisis and all.
@@mistermelancholy7698 in San Andreas the textures are so simple I think they were able to take it to far larger scales vs in GTA 5 everything looks more polished but its really just a big empty map
There's also one thing making it potentially more difficult. EA bought Criterion which owned RenderWare which is the SD trilogy engine. Rockstar was compelled to make their own engine and even VCS is made on early Rage, with some elements previously seen in their RenderWare games. Kinda hybrid maybe won't be exaggeration here. VCS was really transitional between the generations.
There's also Big Bear and B-Dup, two other characters who were part of the Grove Street Families who would've been perfect as supporting characters who provide missions in the beginning of the game. It isn't helped by the fact that B-Dup is voiced by rapper The Game. Emmet could've been a great supporting character as well. As far as gangs go, Seville Boulevard Families and Temple Drive Families are said by Sweet that they were beefing with each other and have split from the Grove Street Families, yet they hardly play a significant role in the Los Santos part of the storyline, even in the return of the city You have The Truth, who is the ultimate government conspiracy theorist, and Mike Toreno, who is the ultimate G-Man, and they never meet. What makes this harder is they have a ships passing in the night moment at the airfield when The Truth is talking to you but runs away after he notices Toreno is nearby. i already give enough reasons to make it work for me or we can see the ballas command structure how they defeat the grove street families and other gangs and become powerful how brian died
It's more about wuziee we need to know how he become blind what was it how is he good at races and how has he become big bussinessman like Toni sibriyoni
you said it yourself, the truth didn't want to meet toreno, and he already knew he was some kind of government associate, so there's no chance in hell there'd be a storyline where these 2 interact more than they did already.
This video made me realize the real reason for gta vi release being so important: despite all the money gta v has made, it is (still and always will be) built upon ps3 era game engine.
It's already kind of hard to believe that San Andreas runs well on a PS2, getting that entire map to work on a PSP would be a nightmare. Also I personally think the game just being set in Los Santos could've worked. GTA San Andreas takes us all over the state but at it's core it's a story about the Grove Street families. The majority of the important characters and factions in the game are Los Santos based, with the story beginning and ending there. If the game would've been a prequel about the Grove Street families then it honestly makes more sense for the story to be contained to just Los Santos.
Such a crying shame they never created San Andreas Stories. They could've created it and released it in 2007, that way they could've had three GTA games debuted in a row, and a fourth one in 2008 (GTA 4). I would've loved to imagine playing as either Sweet, Cesar, Woozie, or CJ and Sweet's deceased brother Brian as the protagonist if the story had taken place in 1990, two years before the events of GTA San Andreas. But alas, it's only wishful thinking...
CJ was born in 1968 and in the story they tell that Brian is 5 years younger than CJ. Brian was born in 1973. Brian's death was five years before CJ returned so it happened 1987, so he died 14 years old.
Leftover files of GTA San Andreas actually prove that R* intended to make mission pack for San Andreas as it allows multiple scms and script.img loaded into the game. There are also unused text files (as seen in GXT Editor) that indicate we would be able to switch between standard San Andreas and different (rumoured mission packs), something that was later used for GTA IV - Episodes of Liberty City where we could pick between original GTA IV and TLaD/TBoGT. It's really interesting but I believe R* was already overwhelmed with amount of work they were carrying out - GTA IV (which development began in November 2004, right after San Andreas release) and VCS, LCS which were released in 2005/2006. At this point I feel team didn't have enough people to work on another 'Stories' title and I believe San Andreas would be more difficult to work on, compared to LCS/VCS, that would also involve another batch of actors, programming, etc. I guess they just wanted to fill the gap between release of San Andreas and GTA IV and gave us two pre-quels regardless. Who knows, maybe in the future there will be some big brain modders who will use the power of AI and develop standalone San Andreas Stories, it won't be the same as if it was made by R* themselves but still better than nothing.
The only way they couldve put San Andreas map with limited PSP hardware would've been to separate the 3 citys of San Andreas with little loading screen just like Vice City Stories separate the 2 islands with poor draw distance and low resolution textures
They could have put the map on the PSP. If Test drive Unlimited can put it's map on there (It dwarfs any GTA map.) then San Andreas could fit on there. Still, if that's a concern they could always split the maps and release them as separate games, but the game coming in 3 parts would be more effort than it's worth. It doesn't seem like there's any real point in it. Adding to an already bloated story, in a loose prequel way doesn't seem like a good idea.
if the game struggled on the PS2, then there is no way they could port it to PSP. also, the maps in GTA are dense and meant to be explored by foot not just a stretch of long road with random buildings on the side
@@bassram3337 I never said port it over 1:1. If they have to make changes to fit it on then so be it. I even suggested one way to do that, divide up the map. But that was my point, about the map...not the game. As for the game maybe change the gameplay to be more like the other stories games. Being reduced graphically too is a no brainer. I am not arguing quality here let's be clear, I am just saying they could have done it. A port of SA or a SA Stories on PSP may very well be garbage, but they could have done it. As far as Test Drive goes, that had a large map, which is also a lot of data to fit on that system, but they managed it. It's like 70% or so of Oahu, even the PSP version. My original point was more about map than gameplay. If you want a game that really puts the PS2 to it's limits, try out the True Crime games, and boy did they suffer for it. Count SA lucky. Now there's no way to fit those on the PSP, SA with cuts but not those two unless you make a drastically different game entirely.
I was like 10 years old roaming through every game section when i was shopping with mom in hopes to find San Andreas Stories one day but it never came 😢
They only reason was that the Engine they used called RenderWare was bought by EA years prior. They still had old contracts that made them able to use it and that is mostly the reason a SA Stories never came since they didnt botherd with renewing/making new games with that Engine
Now what could’ve been cool is if rockstar did do this concept, but split it into 3 cities. So there’d be Los Santos Stories, San Fierro Stories, and Las Venturas Stories. They should’ve done something like this as a smaller project during the development of GTA VI like they did during GTA IV’s development with the release of GTA Liberty City Stories and GTA Vice City Stories.
That’s could’ve helped make it more easier and self containing on each city. Maybe there’s some small lore and story that occurred before CJ’s return or entering first time of each city.
One thing the Stories series did right was offering a point of view from antagonists of the main games. Liberty City Stories focused on the Leone family and Vice City Stories on the Vance Brothers. So it would have been cool to get a San Andreas Stories where you play as either The Ballas or the Loco Syndicate. But The Introduction is great too.
One thing I wish that rockstar could’ve done is make a comic series showing a more detailed backstory surrounding the ballas l rising in power and the decline of the Families, include a story of how the triads initially didn’t have faith in Wu zi Mu as a leader only for Wu Zi to prove them wrong, the creation of the Loco Syndicate alliance, how Caesar and Kendal first met, and so much more.
I’ve been writing a San Andreas stories for a few weeks now, I have Ryder as the main character, and how he got rapped up in all of this TenPenny and Big Smoke stuff, it starts with him getting in trouble for running over 5 ballas, TenPenny catches him and makes him do almost hitman like jobs, but then in 1992 he is approached by smoke to join him, he is already working for TenPenny but hates Ballas, he thinks about it and joins a little before CJ comes back, CJ coming to the funeral is where it would end, basically it takes place between 1988-1992. And it would be revealed Ryder was the one who ACTUALLY killed the officer we heard about in the beginning of San Andreas
I think the Introduction movie feels much better after you completed the game, it points out some aspects of the plot while not spoiling too much of it that way.
LSS and VCS were both originally on PSP and set during the 3D Era. A San Andreas Stories on the Vita makes perfect sense considering GTA V (which is set in San Andreas and the HD Era) came out around the same time as the Vita, it was just money just waiting to be made.
When you brought up the size of the map, it reminded me of just how _empty_ it feels. There's so much nothing in between the cities that it feels bigger than GTA V's map -- in a bad way.
I would have loved a GTA San Andreas Stories. The multiplayer was so fun in LCS and VCS. Guess that’s why a lot of ppl (including me) didn’t get a Sony Vita :/
I think there’s a few other things at play here. Piracy on the PSP was rampant. You could even use early copies of LCS to boot in to pirate tools. It wasn’t so bad for LCS because it was an early game and the piracy wasn’t too widespread, but even a year later when VCS came out, everyone knew someone with a modded PSP, and by the time a SAS would be coming out it was trivial to mod many PSP models. Secondly Nintendo (who’s piracy situation at least required a physical cart, making it a lot less widespread) wanted some mature games, so sought out working with R* (and quite possibly offered cash). A “stories” game on the DS was never going to work, but I do think “SAS” could have got on the PSP. The android version of SA unpacks to less than 1.7GB (the max size of a PSP UMD), and could be more optimised for a single platform. I don’t think focus on GTA IV would have been an issue, as Leeds did Chinatown Wars on the DS (which eventually made it to PSP when they’d made their money back in DS sales and Sony promised the platform was more secure with new models… it wasn’t lol) I do think there might have been fatigue inside R* around the 3D era, but had the market forces been right, I believe there would have been people who could make it work, and who would have wanted to continue that legacy a little longer.
A San Andreas Stories game taking place in 1996 to 1997 would have been super dope. Imagine doing a driveby with the Macarena playing in the background 🤣 Plus Rockstar Games could have shown San Fierro undergoing a total transformation and people just flush with cash. Honestly I would have been totally cool with a San Andreas Stories game taking place solely in San Fierro (since it was my favorite part of San Andreas). It made me a bit disappointed that GTA5 didn’t have either San Fierro or Las Venturas, but I guess I understand why they just focused on Los Santos considering how large the map was for GTA5 already.
The PSP was a freaking tank for its time. I still have my Star Wars Battlefront PSP from back then and I still boot it up and play games with it now and again. They're great little systems.
@@livebassngamesWe will see because most Gta S.A fans was blinded by Nostalgia and can't accept the truth about other features of gta games which are not in Gta S.A
@@mikkomonsales6653 It has to be a good inbetween of SA, GTA 5 and RDR2... the activities in RDR2 take way too much space not enough focus on stuff like climbing CJ can do it why can't we in RDR2 .... brushing the horse is fun but a wax car function is not necessarily what GTA needs a proper pay-n-spray is what we need... a no fuss shop where the car gets painted in a random color in the quickest way possible maybe they should bring back garages to rig cars with guns like GTA 2 had.
San Andreas stories should of been the story of how the Ballers took over Los Santos with the main protagonist being a baller who either died or left before the events of San Andreas and that could set up more reasons to why the some things play out a certain way in San Andreas by expanding on certain characters lore and interaction with up and coming ballers, you could even add a few more rival gangs who are non existant by the time CJ comes back because thier leader is one of the main protagonists, you could also have a younger officer Tenpenny who is a bit less corrupt but you see where his motives in the future come from Via him having a brother or cousin who's gang affiliated (maybe the protagonist himself) So many things could be done with that type of storyline, missions for Berkley, the docks could be a business that you can own that transports any car you want to the two showrooms in San Fierro, which you could also own to generate passive income, the game almost writes itself
Lol, I remember when VCS was released me and my classmates were speculating about San Andreas stories :D I thought the main protagonist would be Sweet, recovering from Brian's death, trying to maintain status as the gang leader, while everyone else thought it's would be about Ryder, because they're dumb
Rockstar really blew with remasters (or possibility to make a bit of remake out of it). There was not only a potential to make og games better with improved shooting and animations (maybe using some ragdoll mixed with animations), make things load properly while keeping the fog, and so on. But also there was a chance for another Stories expansion that would use all three maps, set in one world. In terms of visuals a touch up in a way nightdive studio does remasters would be enough - just even out some rough edges, make new but fitting lighting and that's it. What i miss the most is just that while GTA 3 and VC feels a bit lacking in terms of map size and scope, SA is the perfect example of huge map that gives great impression of having even larger scale. At that it's much better than GTA V (still awesome but it feels to condensed with many regions being underdeveloped).
My idea for San Andreas Stories would be set during the 1970's showing the formation of the Ballas and Grove Street Families and the rise of the Leone family
Although a prequel to GTA SA would’ve been cool-I think after the poor reception to VCS and LCS they decided not to do it for business reasons. It was much easier for them to make a mini-movie explaining the prior events that kickstarted San Andreas’s story.
What I don't understand about that mod is why it's about Brian Johnson, when it doesn't make sense, not only because he was 10, but none of the Johnsons never left Los Santos at all before, before Carl left for Liberty City. One of the only plausible storylines for a "Stories" game starring an existing character would have it be about how a young Mike Toreno became a government agent, and having the game take place from 1967 to 1969, especially since a lot of significant cultural and historic events happened in California and Nevada during those years.
IMO a perfect excuse they could've used to keep a PSP game local to Los Santos would be to state in the manual that there was an earthquake that's cut the roads off from the rest of the state.
Simple Gta SA is still one most played games 20 years later, hugely popular and revolutionary never had a need a need for another series because SA is enough
I'm not too sure if San Andreas' map size would've been impossible to fit on PSP hardware, considering they managed to port Test Drive Unlimited along with it's 1:1 scale of Oahu Island
I think sa stories could have been ryder around the time of brians death. A little ways in would be the funeral, then a little while after you take cj to the airport talking smack about him running. The main bad guys would be tennpenny and pendlebury, with pulaski being the new crash member. Most of the story would be the breaking up of the families, with the introduction of crash being a large factor.
GTA: SAS should have been made and i hope someday it is. For a while now I've hoped that we get to play as Big Smoke as he's slowly coaxed into working with Tenpenny and CRASH and how his allegience to Groove Street changes and sets up the attempt to kill Sweet but accidentally causes Leonora Johnson's death, along the way causing the problems that CJ will later clean up for him, e.g Russian Mafia in Just Business,Vagos ambush in Wrong Side Of The Tracks,How Smoke and Ryder got their hands on a Green Sabre etc, there's a lot of stuff surrounding Smoke and Ryder that's not explained in the main game.
What I think would make could make a fun idea is a gta comic book series (for both 3d and HD universes)that could explain what characters did before or after there stories and it just doesn't have to be about the protagonist it could get some stories of some side characters as well also a gta comic based off marvels what if (gta what if) that could serve as fun non cannon 1 off stories example What if Lance Vance died at the beginning of vice city
If San Andreas stories was ever made I’d want it to be about Brian Johnson, his life, his family life, his gang related activities, and ultimately his death
Sweet should’ve been the Main character for SA stories. Show us how Sweet became the leader of Grove St and what things were like before CJ went to Liberty.
Game takes place in 92'. If you take a look at what was going on at that time was the L.A Riots, and the rise of "Gangsta Rap" or "Reality Rap". What else can could you really prequel the game too?
Wait. You didn't heard about GTA San Andreas Stories Mod by SASquad ??? Where the protagonist is Jose. It is very big total conversion Mod. it's like Official Game !!!
my guess is that they have to separate each cities and they don't know which factions associated with CJ would be assigned to LS, SF, and LV respectively.
It's because Ryder was supposed to be the main character but MC Eiht had asked them too much money to voice act again, so the project was never made. Rumors say that's also why they cut Ryder's role short in the original gta sa, apparently to save money on the voice actors they told mc eiht it's all they needed him to do when his character's arc wasn't really completed yet.
Because even though there was so many options to go forward a few years or back it felt complete were other ones had a catalyst of why they were made from showing something different or showing the previous gang running vice city before the incident with the Vance brothers San Andres would have to be undercover fed
I feel like Vice City stories and liberty city stories was made as a more polished version of gta 3 and VC with more up to date (at the time) physics and controls Although San Andreas stories wouldn’t have made sense i would’ve love to seen a GTA game where we play as Ceasar between 1989-1991 showing how the Aztecas operated and more of his character
What if they did something different like gta san Andreas aftermath set in 1995 and you play as Azteca voiced by toker from brownside aka Gilbert Izquierdo ( he's a deceassed rapper) The character would have less morals than cj
If i remember, one of the biggest reasons it wasnt made that LCS but especially VCS didnt make enough money to justify the development cost. The PSP was a niche console, especially by the time of VCS when everyone knew the DS was the dominant winner. Thats why the next portable game was on the DS. At this point, phones can handle the original GTA games so why bither with a new one.
It was planned to be a PS3 exclusive during development. Microsoft then begged and offered wads of cash to R* to make the engine compatible with Windows and X360
The Stories series scratched the itch and that was pretty much the idea. San Andreas stories would’ve been better than most AAA titles regardless of size or hype
4:01 The PSP is absolutely capable of running the world of San Andreas since it has a very similar (and arguably superior) MIPS III CPU as the PS2. In 2007 (the year a hypothetical San Andreas Stories would have released), Sony even began allowing developers to clock the PSP CPU to 333Mhz (faster than the PS2's!). The main hardware issue would have been the PSP's limited controls: GTA III and Vice City had simple controls that translated smoothly into the PSP prequels, but a San Andreas Stories on PSP would just be a downgrade from the original game. Ultimately, the game's story and The Introduction left little room for a prequel-I mean, who would you even play as? 😅
We also would've been able to see what grove street was like in it's prime, and witness what sparked its downfall. Would've been cool, but I always figured that Rockstar just wanted to get working on IV.
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One small error I'd like to correct is me saying the Introduction Movie was exclusive to the PS2 version. The movie shipped on a separate disk as part of the "Special Edition" and not on all PS2 releases.
The Introduction movie was actually included on a third CD as part of the San Andreas soundtrack album, and was playable on PC, PS2 and Xbox, or anything with a CD reader.
If you put it in a Sony Walkman, it still played the audio but obviously without any visuals.
I don't believe it ever shipped with the PS2 game, special edition or otherwise.
@@VitZ9 It actually did ship with the PS2 special edition. It also came with a documentary about lowrider culture called Sunday Driver
@@midgetspinner7007yes in a gold foil case
San Andreas stories could have very well been a thing if they split the game into 3 disks. 1 for los santos and the country, 1 for san fierro, and 1 for Las Venturas.
@@midgetspinner7007i found that version at a retro game store recently for $40, had no idea it existed and i was very happy to find it
Missed opportunity to make a Stories game where you play as Wu Zi and the screen is just blank.
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those 4 years between SA and gta4 felt like a decade back then.
Crazy how normal it is for games to be 6+ years apart nowadays. Or more than a decade in GTA's case.
The older you get. Time speeds up!
@@Fxrrxt2x Pretty sure Rockstar could create GTA Las Venturas and San Fierro as seperate game within the 10 year frame they did before GTA 6 in the same engine. They were just too greedy.
Yh and now we r waiting a decade for gta 6 XD
@@ImKarlthey’d probably get some other company to make it who would mess it up naturally
*They should have made a SA stories about CJ's brother brian and how everything ended.*
There isn't much to make out of it. Also Brian was a teenager so Rockstar would not make a game about a teenager being killed even then. Now especially they wouldn't do it.
Tbh it'd be best to play as cesar.
@@Hunter-sh7vh Catalina as the playable character could make a good game. Something manhunty.
@@gandalainsley6467 yeah she's fiesty and we'll be connected to sa and gta iii
It would've made sense, though. The game also likely would've ended with their mother's murder and you'd see CJ making his way into the airplane that will bring him back home to tie it into the San Andreas intro.
I love the heat wave affect in the original that was sadly removed from the Definitive Edition.
Nope I’m going for the 100% and the effect is still there, but not giving them too much credit, the heat effect happen even while it’s raining 😂
@@SleepyjoeOGI’m guessing that was probably an update. Even I didn’t have the heat wave on the definitive edition. Haven’t played it in a long while though.
I'm just disappointed that the OG ps2 version didn't have snow , while the definitive edition did 🤔
Gta is the heat wave effect.
@ryanlopez1050 yeah that was a recent update, but it still sucked lol its literally everywhere too like in all the cities across the map which makes no sense and not just LS and the desert like in the original PS2 version.
VCS feels like a midpoint between old school GTA irreverancy and the realistic moodiness of IV. The story is tragic and cynical but there is also some wacky shit and flipppancy.
VCS is basically just a Cover of what GTA IV is going to be. It's like telling Niko the Land of Opportunity, the American Dream, and Liberty City is going to be amazing only to realize it's all fake and just straight up dark, gloomy, and sad. VCS, looks so cheerful and exciting. Then GTA IV comes in, and it feels so depressing to see what it looks like. But because VCS and IV look so different to each other, it's so easy to forget that both of these games have the same tragic stories with a mix of some of some light-hearted humor. They're basically the same, and even both of the protagonists, Niko and Victor, have been in the military, and they've both experienced some messed up tragedy, and did some messed up things too, but are still really kind people who's willing to help those around them and get revenge against the people who've wronged them and the people they care about.
It's clear that the vibe of GTA IV was influenced by the dark side of VCS.
@@Jo-Wilbe-Dina Indeed. I do think that IV pulls it a lot better than Stories. The characters are more likable and the tone is more even. Stories has a radio program about a dude traveling in time by masturbating AND the depressing story of Louse. You can have wacky sh*t and pathos together but it is a tricky balance.
@@Jnensrevenge That's just Life in a nutshell. We are having fun because of all the whacky silly stuff, while suffering every single day and even being depressed at times.
@@Jo-Wilbe-Dinadon’t forget the dlcs like Luis… TBOGT was a heavy shade in the fade of VC in general
Jesus Christ loves you so much and died for your sins💙💜
A Cesar prequel showing him and his gang members coming up would’ve been awesome
Simple answer, the map is too big for PSP, San Andreas even pushed the PS2 to it's limit
But i feel like a San Andreas Stories would've either had Sweet or Ceasar as the protagonist and set probably in 1989
Thats why im saying they should of cut the other 2 cities off and made Los Santos stories about gangs in the 80s.
They could have made it on ps vita
Test Drive Unlimited on PsP has a far bigger map than San Andreas
I think Brian would have been a better candidate for a stories protagonist.
@@JuriSins not gonna happen, Brian was just 10 when he died
One thing I took away from this video is how insane it is that most current generation games STILL struggle to get to 60 fps
60fps will never be standard. It has nothing to do with hardware. No matter how powerful the hardware gets, devs will rather dedicate the extra power to the game world than to 60 fps. They will always choose more NPC’s on screen over 60 fps. They will always choose lager maps over 60 fps.
That’s just the way it goes.
Sad but true
they can, but only on PC
@@dubl33_27 Most systems aren’t running games at 60fps
The real reason they didn't do a GTA SA Stories is because they didn't want to, the leaks of this year show that they didn't event thought of doing it, there were more probabilities of doing a GTA in Tokyo than another game in San Andreas
They were too busy with gta 4
@@Lupo32 yes and no, obviously Rockstar North was busy with GTA IV but not other Rockstar studios, there's a reason why the majority of games between GTA SA and GTA IV are done by studios like Rockstar Dundee or Rockstar Leeds, they could just use other studio to do their game, but no, they just didn't want to do GTA San Andreas Stories, do you really think Rockstar is just one game developer?
@@snake_ls
Same reason they shift all the focus
In gta 6 ..... red dead online was abandoned and rdr 3 has been green lit but all focus is on gta 6 ... and there is a rumored medieval rockstar game but all focus in on gta 6
@@Lupo32
You don't understand.
There was a time when Rockstar wasn't just a one game company, they rebranded from DMA Design to Rockstar North during GTA3.
To capitalise on the success of the Rockstar name, their parent company Take 2 rebranded other, smaller studios they owned around the world into Rockstar Leeds, Rockstar Dundee, Rockstar Toronto, etc etc.
During this time, while Rockstar North developed GTAIV, the other studios made separate games. This is why we have Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, and when we should have theoretically got San Andreas Stories.
However, not long after that, during GTAV development, Take2 redirected a few of the studios to help with GTAV and closed the others down. Then after RDR2, they closed the rest down, or merged them together into new studios.
There is no shift of focus between a web of studios anymore, it's basically just the two, Rockstar North and Rockstar Toronto, plus the head legal office in New York. There are no other Rockstar branded studios left with a sizable enough team to develop a game, Rockstar Leeds only has 70 employees for example.
Also everyone who made GTA and Rockstar North the company it was left after RDR2 anyway, Houser, Lazlow, Benzies, etc, so Rockstar North only exists in name only.
@@VitZ9😢😢 damn
It was just a case of workload delegation. LCS and VCS were developed before the RAGE engine was fully fleshed out, then when IV was in development, it required almost all of their manpower, half of which then had to go on towards RDR throughout GTA IV. SA required too much storyline, voice actors, story developers etc that by the time IV was in full swing, there was no room to go back to San Andreas to develop another huge last gen game. They also had Max Payne 3 to deal with and then GTA V, there was no time or room for SA Stories. I wanted it at the time as much as all of us, but it makes sense now why we didn’t get it.
If it's any consolation, those other games are pretty freakin' great that they've made.
San Andreas introduction was the stories
Basically
Tbf the Introduction was better as a movie than a game
Then it sucked ass
@@CosmicshamblerL
That’s a whack cop out. They set up way too much lore in that game to where they could’ve did stories
Kinda funny you're playing Quadroboxer's GTA San Andreas Stories, which is a parody of the so many fanmade GTA Stories done by fans
it's the weirdest imo, brian is 10 how can he be a protagonist of a sas mod😭
@@cerdopalo2394 Only in ESRB E rating game.
It was too iconic to be remade/continued. Literally the best game in the franchise.
Gta 4 is better
@@maalikserebryakovnot by a long shot
@@flakco6245 gt4 is easily better I'd rather play that than San Andrea's but it's all opinion
@@TheRealDarth_Vader I was a fan of gta 4 but it has very little replay value and has far less features than San Andreas which is crazy considering gta 4 was the introduction to the 3D universe. I may be a little biased but like you said it’s all opinion based.
@@maalikserebryakovpeople including me were genuinely upset about the lack of content in gta4 compared to gta sa when 4 came out. No planes, no car customization, no weight gain/loss mechanics, very limited clothing options, no rpg elements like sa, a less diverse map, not as much side missions, no underwater exploration, limited melee weapons and so on. Gta4 was a major step back from sa and is only getting glazed recently because of the euphoria engine that was better than gtav physics engine. This game was a huge disappointment in comparison to sa. You people just hype whatever the media is currently hyping. In 4 years when the narrative is saying gta vice city was the best, youll be saying how vc was the best. San andreas is the best gta and that isnt a debate. Every other gta lacks what sa had in some way or another and thats a fact.
Things it could have covered:
-Brian’s death and CJ’s departure
-The splintering and rivalry between the Grove, Temple and Seville Families
The Los Santos lore(Families vs Ballas and Vagos vs Aztecas) was complete enough,but San Fierro still had potential,there are even a few gangs that are mentioned but never appeared(Shining Razors, Butterfly Children),imagine one were you play as a triad in San Fierro,expanding the lore of the Triads,San Fierro Rifa,Da Nang Boys,Loco syndicate,etc and if it was before San Andreas it could have return of characters like Woozie,Guppy,Litle Lion,Ran Fa Li,Su xi mu,Mike Toreno,Jizzy,T Bone or even Claude
And las venturas as well. Even there’s some mobsters who ruled the city before the Sindaccos. Maybe that would be another sindacco chronicles. But at their peak or something like that.
@@elperrodelautumo7511 Could have been one of the cities in, like, the 70's. A decade still unexplored by a GTA game.
@@rodsk8dude731I don’t think we have any open world games set in the 70s, I can’t see gta going black to the past again, maybe mafia will do it
@@zakrowe1301 I just think we could've had one back then, in this imagine-spot we're in of "if they tried a San Andreas Stories on PSP".
On GTA 1, San Andreas was literally just "San Fierro", so setting it just there, for instance, and in the 70's, could've worked great, what with that being the most famous decade for the "car chase movie", as well as one of the most popular locations too. Potentially interesting plot too, even relating to cars, what with the oil crisis and all.
I always thought it was kind of weird that San Andreas was the only Location not to be reused again in the 3D universe
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
maybe we'll get san fierro and las venturas in the hd unierse soon but not too soon
@@Tukoendogthat was the weid part about GTA 5 to me was it didn't feel as grand with three big city's at San andreas
@@mistermelancholy7698 in San Andreas the textures are so simple I think they were able to take it to far larger scales vs in GTA 5 everything looks more polished but its really just a big empty map
There's also one thing making it potentially more difficult.
EA bought Criterion which owned RenderWare which is the SD trilogy engine.
Rockstar was compelled to make their own engine and even VCS is made on early Rage, with some elements previously seen in their RenderWare games. Kinda hybrid maybe won't be exaggeration here. VCS was really transitional between the generations.
VCS is 100% on RenderWare. And not RAGE
Rockstars Table Tennis was the first game in RAGE.
@@Dave_Albright nah R* dropped Renderware after San Andreas, coz EA is one of their rivals, despite their excuse was PSP optimization.
There's also Big Bear and B-Dup, two other characters who were part of the Grove Street Families who would've been perfect as supporting characters who provide missions in the beginning of the game. It isn't helped by the fact that B-Dup is voiced by rapper The Game.
Emmet could've been a great supporting character as well.
As far as gangs go, Seville Boulevard Families and Temple Drive Families are said by Sweet that they were beefing with each other and have split from the Grove Street Families, yet they hardly play a significant role in the Los Santos part of the storyline, even in the return of the city
You have The Truth, who is the ultimate government conspiracy theorist, and Mike Toreno, who is the ultimate G-Man, and they never meet. What makes this harder is they have a ships passing in the night moment at the airfield when The Truth is talking to you but runs away after he notices Toreno is nearby.
i already give enough reasons to make it work for me or we can see the ballas command structure how they defeat the grove street families and other gangs and become powerful how brian died
It's more about wuziee we need to know how he become blind what was it how is he good at races and how has he become big bussinessman like Toni sibriyoni
Lmao GTA San Andreas Stories: The Ballad (and it's just basically saints row)
GTA The Ballers 😂 it's just a saints row parody
you said it yourself, the truth didn't want to meet toreno, and he already knew he was some kind of government associate, so there's no chance in hell there'd be a storyline where these 2 interact more than they did already.
This video made me realize the real reason for gta vi release being so important: despite all the money gta v has made, it is (still and always will be) built upon ps3 era game engine.
It's already kind of hard to believe that San Andreas runs well on a PS2, getting that entire map to work on a PSP would be a nightmare.
Also I personally think the game just being set in Los Santos could've worked. GTA San Andreas takes us all over the state but at it's core it's a story about the Grove Street families. The majority of the important characters and factions in the game are Los Santos based, with the story beginning and ending there. If the game would've been a prequel about the Grove Street families then it honestly makes more sense for the story to be contained to just Los Santos.
Nowadaysa game like Genshin Impact takes more space than Gta 5 lmao
Such a crying shame they never created San Andreas Stories. They could've created it and released it in 2007, that way they could've had three GTA games debuted in a row, and a fourth one in 2008 (GTA 4). I would've loved to imagine playing as either Sweet, Cesar, Woozie, or CJ and Sweet's deceased brother Brian as the protagonist if the story had taken place in 1990, two years before the events of GTA San Andreas.
But alas, it's only wishful thinking...
Brian was 10 years old when he died, there's no way he would be the MC.
@@gabrielmartines3510 How do you know that?
@@gabrielmartines3510 Nobody in GTA SA ever mentioned Brian’s age or that he was only 10 years old.
@@JustChill_1031It was mentioned in one of those old magazines.
CJ was born in 1968 and in the story they tell that Brian is 5 years younger than CJ. Brian was born in 1973. Brian's death was five years before CJ returned so it happened 1987, so he died 14 years old.
Leftover files of GTA San Andreas actually prove that R* intended to make mission pack for San Andreas as it allows multiple scms and script.img loaded into the game. There are also unused text files (as seen in GXT Editor) that indicate we would be able to switch between standard San Andreas and different (rumoured mission packs), something that was later used for GTA IV - Episodes of Liberty City where we could pick between original GTA IV and TLaD/TBoGT. It's really interesting but I believe R* was already overwhelmed with amount of work they were carrying out - GTA IV (which development began in November 2004, right after San Andreas release) and VCS, LCS which were released in 2005/2006. At this point I feel team didn't have enough people to work on another 'Stories' title and I believe San Andreas would be more difficult to work on, compared to LCS/VCS, that would also involve another batch of actors, programming, etc. I guess they just wanted to fill the gap between release of San Andreas and GTA IV and gave us two pre-quels regardless.
Who knows, maybe in the future there will be some big brain modders who will use the power of AI and develop standalone San Andreas Stories, it won't be the same as if it was made by R* themselves but still better than nothing.
The only way they couldve put San Andreas map with limited PSP hardware would've been to separate the 3 citys of San Andreas with little loading screen just like Vice City Stories separate the 2 islands with poor draw distance and low resolution textures
They could have put the map on the PSP. If Test drive Unlimited can put it's map on there (It dwarfs any GTA map.) then San Andreas could fit on there. Still, if that's a concern they could always split the maps and release them as separate games, but the game coming in 3 parts would be more effort than it's worth. It doesn't seem like there's any real point in it. Adding to an already bloated story, in a loose prequel way doesn't seem like a good idea.
why psp?
@@jmgonzales7701 Because the Stories games were made as PSP games first and foremost.
if the game struggled on the PS2, then there is no way they could port it to PSP.
also, the maps in GTA are dense and meant to be explored by foot not just a stretch of long road with random buildings on the side
@@bassram3337 I never said port it over 1:1. If they have to make changes to fit it on then so be it. I even suggested one way to do that, divide up the map. But that was my point, about the map...not the game.
As for the game maybe change the gameplay to be more like the other stories games. Being reduced graphically too is a no brainer. I am not arguing quality here let's be clear, I am just saying they could have done it. A port of SA or a SA Stories on PSP may very well be garbage, but they could have done it.
As far as Test Drive goes, that had a large map, which is also a lot of data to fit on that system, but they managed it. It's like 70% or so of Oahu, even the PSP version. My original point was more about map than gameplay.
If you want a game that really puts the PS2 to it's limits, try out the True Crime games, and boy did they suffer for it. Count SA lucky. Now there's no way to fit those on the PSP, SA with cuts but not those two unless you make a drastically different game entirely.
Brian Johnson (CJ's brother) should be the protagonist of San Andreas Stories.
Na he was only 10
The only thing I think I would've liked would've been if SA:Stories was about Tenpenny, his rise to power, and then his decent into corruption.
Seeing so many gta SA unknown stuff even now shows how much ahead of its time it was as a game
I was like 10 years old roaming through every game section when i was shopping with mom in hopes to find San Andreas Stories one day but it never came 😢
I wanted a side story of Sweet
That would be dope.. but it would be called grove street stories he dont give a F about nothing else 😂
I am glad I am again blessed with another video full of interesting information
Another masterpiece with plenty of answers from the king himself
I feel like a prequel on Tenpenny would be an interesting twist. He starts out as a standard cop before being corrupted
They only reason was that the Engine they used called RenderWare was bought by EA years prior. They still had old contracts that made them able to use it and that is mostly the reason a SA Stories never came since they didnt botherd with renewing/making new games with that Engine
Sad, it was a great engine lols
Now what could’ve been cool is if rockstar did do this concept, but split it into 3 cities. So there’d be Los Santos Stories, San Fierro Stories, and Las Venturas Stories. They should’ve done something like this as a smaller project during the development of GTA VI like they did during GTA IV’s development with the release of GTA Liberty City Stories and GTA Vice City Stories.
That’s could’ve helped make it more easier and self containing on each city. Maybe there’s some small lore and story that occurred before CJ’s return or entering first time of each city.
uh, how exactly would they separate the maps?
@@fupmiwith scissors ✂️
Should have Ceasar back story, meeting Kendal ending on Meeting CJ on the lowrider bounce mission
Uh why did you do that..? 3:51
That’s what I’m saying 😂
If this was a thing I’d hope for Cesar or tenpenny to be the lead
Im glad I found this video because I was anticipating a San andreas stories and then it never came. I've been curious forever
One thing the Stories series did right was offering a point of view from antagonists of the main games. Liberty City Stories focused on the Leone family and Vice City Stories on the Vance Brothers. So it would have been cool to get a San Andreas Stories where you play as either The Ballas or the Loco Syndicate. But The Introduction is great too.
I think the game was TOO BIG in the first place. And they pumped a lot into it. It would've been difficult to make and a high standard to live up to.
One thing I wish that rockstar could’ve done is make a comic series showing a more detailed backstory surrounding the ballas l rising in power and the decline of the Families, include a story of how the triads initially didn’t have faith in Wu zi Mu as a leader only for Wu Zi to prove them wrong, the creation of the Loco Syndicate alliance, how Caesar and Kendal first met, and so much more.
I’ve been writing a San Andreas stories for a few weeks now, I have Ryder as the main character, and how he got rapped up in all of this TenPenny and Big Smoke stuff, it starts with him getting in trouble for running over 5 ballas, TenPenny catches him and makes him do almost hitman like jobs, but then in 1992 he is approached by smoke to join him, he is already working for TenPenny but hates Ballas, he thinks about it and joins a little before CJ comes back, CJ coming to the funeral is where it would end, basically it takes place between 1988-1992. And it would be revealed Ryder was the one who ACTUALLY killed the officer we heard about in the beginning of San Andreas
Trash. Ryder sucks ass
I read the rapped wrong💀
@@itdobelikedattho8112 💀
Garbage
LOL in the preface movie of San Andreas Hernandez kill Pendelberry.
I would definitely have been curious to see what a San Andreas Stories would've been, but I understand why it didn't happen.
The phone calls Tenpenny had were with Big Smoke, telling him to kill Sweet.
I think the Introduction movie feels much better after you completed the game, it points out some aspects of the plot while not spoiling too much of it that way.
LSS and VCS were both originally on PSP and set during the 3D Era. A San Andreas Stories on the Vita makes perfect sense considering GTA V (which is set in San Andreas and the HD Era) came out around the same time as the Vita, it was just money just waiting to be made.
When you brought up the size of the map, it reminded me of just how _empty_ it feels. There's so much nothing in between the cities that it feels bigger than GTA V's map -- in a bad way.
I would have loved a GTA San Andreas Stories. The multiplayer was so fun in LCS and VCS. Guess that’s why a lot of ppl (including me) didn’t get a Sony Vita :/
I think there’s a few other things at play here.
Piracy on the PSP was rampant. You could even use early copies of LCS to boot in to pirate tools. It wasn’t so bad for LCS because it was an early game and the piracy wasn’t too widespread, but even a year later when VCS came out, everyone knew someone with a modded PSP, and by the time a SAS would be coming out it was trivial to mod many PSP models.
Secondly Nintendo (who’s piracy situation at least required a physical cart, making it a lot less widespread) wanted some mature games, so sought out working with R* (and quite possibly offered cash).
A “stories” game on the DS was never going to work, but I do think “SAS” could have got on the PSP. The android version of SA unpacks to less than 1.7GB (the max size of a PSP UMD), and could be more optimised for a single platform.
I don’t think focus on GTA IV would have been an issue, as Leeds did Chinatown Wars on the DS (which eventually made it to PSP when they’d made their money back in DS sales and Sony promised the platform was more secure with new models… it wasn’t lol)
I do think there might have been fatigue inside R* around the 3D era, but had the market forces been right, I believe there would have been people who could make it work, and who would have wanted to continue that legacy a little longer.
A San Andreas Stories game taking place in 1996 to 1997 would have been super dope. Imagine doing a driveby with the Macarena playing in the background 🤣 Plus Rockstar Games could have shown San Fierro undergoing a total transformation and people just flush with cash. Honestly I would have been totally cool with a San Andreas Stories game taking place solely in San Fierro (since it was my favorite part of San Andreas). It made me a bit disappointed that GTA5 didn’t have either San Fierro or Las Venturas, but I guess I understand why they just focused on Los Santos considering how large the map was for GTA5 already.
The PSP was a freaking tank for its time. I still have my Star Wars Battlefront PSP from back then and I still boot it up and play games with it now and again. They're great little systems.
I remember years ago before GTA 5 but after some of its artwork was leaked, there were rumours that 5 was actually going to be SA stories lol
I just want to see the funny characters again. Like Loc, Big Smoke, Ryder, CJ, and Sweet
Man named 1 maybe 2 funny characters
@@1ncognitooo i like them. they're chaotic together ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
gta san andreas was the best of all gta versions
It is. Lots of people in denial about this.
@@markl5998 I still think GTA 6 can't top it.
@@livebassngamesWe will see because most Gta S.A fans was blinded by Nostalgia and can't accept the truth about other features of gta games which are not in Gta S.A
gta 4
@@mikkomonsales6653 It has to be a good inbetween of SA, GTA 5 and RDR2... the activities in RDR2 take way too much space not enough focus on stuff like climbing CJ can do it why can't we in RDR2 .... brushing the horse is fun but a wax car function is not necessarily what GTA needs a proper pay-n-spray is what we need... a no fuss shop where the car gets painted in a random color in the quickest way possible maybe they should bring back garages to rig cars with guns like GTA 2 had.
Because they wanted Ryder as the protagonist but MC Eiht was busy with other projects at the time
San Andreas stories should of been the story of how the Ballers took over Los Santos with the main protagonist being a baller who either died or left before the events of San Andreas and that could set up more reasons to why the some things play out a certain way in San Andreas by expanding on certain characters lore and interaction with up and coming ballers,
you could even add a few more rival gangs who are non existant by the time CJ comes back because thier leader is one of the main protagonists, you could also have a younger officer Tenpenny who is a bit less corrupt but you see where his motives in the future come from Via him having a brother or cousin who's gang affiliated (maybe the protagonist himself)
So many things could be done with that type of storyline, missions for Berkley, the docks could be a business that you can own that transports any car you want to the two showrooms in San Fierro, which you could also own to generate passive income, the game almost writes itself
6:29 PS3 exclusive? Lol, GTA IV was announced on xbox earlier😀
Lol, I remember when VCS was released me and my classmates were speculating about San Andreas stories :D I thought the main protagonist would be Sweet, recovering from Brian's death, trying to maintain status as the gang leader, while everyone else thought it's would be about Ryder, because they're dumb
GTA 5 was kinda like san andreas stories. franklin and lamar chat about grove street and michael talks of carcer city being his first bank job.
Not really. The two Stories games are meant to be filler games while the main devs worked on the in-house engine and by extension, GTA IV.
@@DarkenedX08 they were definitely cash grabs to finance other games like IV or RDR like they said themselves
Nah don't diss GTA San Andreas with that mid game V.
@@grimyGobIin Sarcasm aside, Liberty City Stories was mid.
Why people post stupid and wrong informations?
GTA V is a diffrent Universe and has nothing to do with GTA SA.
Rockstar really blew with remasters (or possibility to make a bit of remake out of it). There was not only a potential to make og games better with improved shooting and animations (maybe using some ragdoll mixed with animations), make things load properly while keeping the fog, and so on. But also there was a chance for another Stories expansion that would use all three maps, set in one world. In terms of visuals a touch up in a way nightdive studio does remasters would be enough - just even out some rough edges, make new but fitting lighting and that's it.
What i miss the most is just that while GTA 3 and VC feels a bit lacking in terms of map size and scope, SA is the perfect example of huge map that gives great impression of having even larger scale. At that it's much better than GTA V (still awesome but it feels to condensed with many regions being underdeveloped).
If they only released GTA San Andreas Stories it should be about Brian how he died and early life with Kendl CJ mom CJ Sweet Brian
My idea for San Andreas Stories would be set during the 1970's showing the formation of the Ballas and Grove Street Families and the rise of the Leone family
Although a prequel to GTA SA would’ve been cool-I think after the poor reception to VCS and LCS they decided not to do it for business reasons. It was much easier for them to make a mini-movie explaining the prior events that kickstarted San Andreas’s story.
Imo would’ve been awesome to see how Big Smoke got involved with ballas from ballas perspective
I think 1 where you play as big bear before he became a addict would've been cool.
What I don't understand about that mod is why it's about Brian Johnson, when it doesn't make sense, not only because he was 10, but none of the Johnsons never left Los Santos at all before, before Carl left for Liberty City.
One of the only plausible storylines for a "Stories" game starring an existing character would have it be about how a young Mike Toreno became a government agent, and having the game take place from 1967 to 1969, especially since a lot of significant cultural and historic events happened in California and Nevada during those years.
Simple 1990 Liberty city as CJ of what he did in LC or rid the map of countryside and play as different characters in each city.
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@@markedm my exact reaction, like what countryside??? 😭
stories were never about the same MCs dummy
Amazing video 👏
Keep it up !
great video bro
I wish studios would keep adding content to old games. Assuming it remains relevant, and profitable. I know there's a rare few.
IMO a perfect excuse they could've used to keep a PSP game local to Los Santos would be to state in the manual that there was an earthquake that's cut the roads off from the rest of the state.
There's no way they could have fit the entire San Andreas map on a UMD
it's only 1.7gb on mobile
Simple Gta SA is still one most played games 20 years later, hugely popular and revolutionary never had a need a need for another series because SA is enough
It's more simple:
"No plans"
End of story. I don't understand why kids post wrong or stupid informations from rumors without source.
I'm not too sure if San Andreas' map size would've been impossible to fit on PSP hardware, considering they managed to port Test Drive Unlimited along with it's 1:1 scale of Oahu Island
I think sa stories could have been ryder around the time of brians death. A little ways in would be the funeral, then a little while after you take cj to the airport talking smack about him running. The main bad guys would be tennpenny and pendlebury, with pulaski being the new crash member. Most of the story would be the breaking up of the families, with the introduction of crash being a large factor.
I would like to see something more about the San Andreas universe .. big smoke prequel.. groove street and ballas mafias prequel..
GTA: SAS should have been made and i hope someday it is.
For a while now I've hoped that we get to play as Big Smoke as he's slowly coaxed into working with Tenpenny and CRASH and how his allegience to Groove Street changes and sets up the attempt to kill Sweet but accidentally causes Leonora Johnson's death, along the way causing the problems that CJ will later clean up for him, e.g Russian Mafia in Just Business,Vagos ambush in Wrong Side Of The Tracks,How Smoke and Ryder got their hands on a Green Sabre etc, there's a lot of stuff surrounding Smoke and Ryder that's not explained in the main game.
Imagine san andreas stories with Brian Johnson as the main character, with the plot leadingh to the incident of his death
Well the voiceactor of ryder leaving is also can be a point
For me personally, GTA Vice City Stories 🦩was my most favorite out of all the series
What I think would make could make a fun idea is a gta comic book series (for both 3d and HD universes)that could explain what characters did before or after there stories and it just doesn't have to be about the protagonist it could get some stories of some side characters as well also a gta comic based off marvels what if (gta what if) that could serve as fun non cannon 1 off stories example
What if Lance Vance died at the beginning of vice city
ah mann... i wish they made that game. because that 3D universe to make San Andreas Stories would be take another 2 years for make it.
If San Andreas stories was ever made I’d want it to be about Brian Johnson, his life, his family life, his gang related activities, and ultimately his death
San Andreas is a masterpiece in the gta lineup with the best map in the series as it’s very diverse
Sweet should’ve been the Main character for SA stories. Show us how Sweet became the leader of Grove St and what things were like before CJ went to Liberty.
Game takes place in 92'. If you take a look at what was going on at that time was the L.A Riots, and the rise of "Gangsta Rap" or "Reality Rap". What else can could you really prequel the game too?
Imagine if San Andreas stories releases alongside GTA 6
Wait. You didn't heard about GTA San Andreas Stories Mod by SASquad ??? Where the protagonist is Jose. It is very big total conversion Mod. it's like Official Game !!!
Official game and ended with "Love Letter" from Strauss. So be careful
my guess is that they have to separate each cities and they don't know which factions associated with CJ would be assigned to LS, SF, and LV respectively.
It's because Ryder was supposed to be the main character but MC Eiht had asked them too much money to voice act again, so the project was never made. Rumors say that's also why they cut Ryder's role short in the original gta sa, apparently to save money on the voice actors they told mc eiht it's all they needed him to do when his character's arc wasn't really completed yet.
Stop it. Why you post wrong informations? No source
0:29 didn’t they remove a lot because they wet hand held
Because even though there was so many options to go forward a few years or back it felt complete were other ones had a catalyst of why they were made from showing something different or showing the previous gang running vice city before the incident with the Vance brothers San Andres would have to be undercover fed
I feel like Vice City stories and liberty city stories was made as a more polished version of gta 3 and VC with more up to date (at the time) physics and controls
Although San Andreas stories wouldn’t have made sense i would’ve love to seen a GTA game where we play as Ceasar between 1989-1991 showing how the Aztecas operated and more of his character
What if they did something different like gta san Andreas aftermath set in 1995 and you play as Azteca voiced by toker from brownside aka Gilbert Izquierdo ( he's a deceassed rapper)
The character would have less morals than cj
If i remember, one of the biggest reasons it wasnt made that LCS but especially VCS didnt make enough money to justify the development cost. The PSP was a niche console, especially by the time of VCS when everyone knew the DS was the dominant winner. Thats why the next portable game was on the DS. At this point, phones can handle the original GTA games so why bither with a new one.
GTA IV a PS3 exclusive?
GTA IV launched on the PS3 and Xbox 360 at the same time.
It was planned to be a PS3 exclusive during development. Microsoft then begged and offered wads of cash to R* to make the engine compatible with Windows and X360
The Stories series scratched the itch and that was pretty much the idea. San Andreas stories would’ve been better than most AAA titles regardless of size or hype
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The PSP is absolutely capable of running the world of San Andreas since it has a very similar (and arguably superior) MIPS III CPU as the PS2. In 2007 (the year a hypothetical San Andreas Stories would have released), Sony even began allowing developers to clock the PSP CPU to 333Mhz (faster than the PS2's!). The main hardware issue would have been the PSP's limited controls: GTA III and Vice City had simple controls that translated smoothly into the PSP prequels, but a San Andreas Stories on PSP would just be a downgrade from the original game. Ultimately, the game's story and The Introduction left little room for a prequel-I mean, who would you even play as? 😅
lol there is no way MIPS is stronger or even close to the Emotion Engine
@@bassram3337 The EE is itself a MIPS processor with a similar instruction set to the PSP counterpart's
If GTA San Andreas Stories was made. I bet it would include Kane as the new character. And to start at San Ferro or Las Venturas.
We also would've been able to see what grove street was like in it's prime, and witness what sparked its downfall. Would've been cool, but I always figured that Rockstar just wanted to get working on IV.